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johndanger
01-30-2004, 02:08 AM
what color were 55 56 57 Vette motors painted , blue , or orange ?

JamesG
01-30-2004, 02:17 AM
Orange.................Chevy had blue SBC's in 77' Vettes.....

36-3window
01-30-2004, 02:47 AM
i thought they where red?

Tcoupe
01-30-2004, 03:02 AM
1955 = orange
1956 = red
1957 265 = chartuse (early)
1957 283 = orange

Even Chevrolet orange looks like red though.

50Fraud
01-30-2004, 04:04 AM
I found a book about SBC casting numbers, which contained a picture I think was a GM press photo of a '55 265. I copied that color scheme on my engine, so it appears to be a 1955 crate motor:

wideglide74
01-30-2004, 04:56 AM
That is a BEAUTIFUL mill. I'm drooling here, rest of the car doesn't look to shabby either...

Django
01-30-2004, 09:55 AM
chartruse as in lime green? Anyone have a pic? I have to see this...

Tcoupe
01-30-2004, 11:15 AM
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chartruse as in lime green? Anyone have a pic? I have to see this...

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I did a search on Chevytalk.com, and chartuse came up more than a few times as the color for the 265s in 57s, no pics though.

visor
01-30-2004, 12:07 PM
The 57 283's were not all orange. In fact Maybe none
of them were.
They were a dark red color.
This color is available from Por-50 and others.
I also bought a new factory 56 265 crate motor back in the 60's,
and it was light blue.
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"OPOSSUM BENDERS"
Central Missouri Chapter

briggs&strattonChev
01-30-2004, 12:13 PM
im nearly positive that the 1957 265's were a yellow color

is chartruse yellow?

JamesG
01-30-2004, 12:37 PM
[ QUOTE ]
The 57 283's were not all orange. In fact Maybe none
of them were.
They were a dark red color.
This color is available from Por-50 and others.
I also bought a new factory 56 265 crate motor back in the 60's,
and it was light blue.
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"OPOSSUM BENDERS"
Central Missouri Chapter

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My 56 Safari had the org. 316 in it that we paint 58 Impala Reo Red, it came out looking like dark dark red......I think its what they casted them, its darker or something.....?

CLSSY56
01-30-2004, 12:38 PM
55,56,57 SBCs were orange. Late 57 they changed the color to a darker orange/red. 235s were light blue.

1955 235
http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/stuff/55-Engine235.jpg

1955 265
http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/stuff/55-Engine265.jpg

My 56 265
http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/Engine7-3-03.JPG

Now that crate motor, was that from Chevy or a rebuilder? Rebuilders usually changed the color. As for instance my Cast PowerGlide was orginaly Cast Iron, the one in there now has traces of baby blue paint (which was a mid-west rebuilder, but don't know which one).

SamIyam
01-30-2004, 12:40 PM
[ QUOTE ]
im nearly positive that the 1957 265's were a yellow color

is chartruse yellow?

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Yes, they were.

I saw one once at a swap meet... I got into an argument (not really) with the guy about it being a stock color...
Sam.

R&C Lee
01-30-2004, 12:49 PM
50Fraud what generator bracket are you using? I'm doing something similiar for my 32 roadster and ground off the bracket from the ram's horn.

enjenjo
01-30-2004, 12:58 PM
I had a 57 with a 265, at least it was when I tore it down for rebuild, and it was painted red. I have seen the chartruse ones too. Some of the early Chevy truck SBC were painted grey, and GMC used a bluegreen similar to the Buick green. I also bought some military surplus 283's painted OD green, with a cast aluminum cam cover, and pan.

Otto
01-30-2004, 01:14 PM
SoCal, are those the new 2 1/2" you can get from the dealers? Just with the big triangle hemroid taken off???

I was thinking about doing that.

R&C Lee
01-30-2004, 01:21 PM
Otto, that's them. The two I got both had the the huge brackets on them. I cut them off and ground down the rest and painted them with POR-15 manifold paint.

Otto
01-30-2004, 01:24 PM
They turned out real nice. That would make a cool tech post. Did you take pics along the way?

Great looking mill.

Smokin Joe
01-30-2004, 01:47 PM
Smallblocks in the car were orange altho Chevy orange sometimes looks red. Depends on who mixed the paint for that day's production I guess. Or what plant is doing the painting. Lots of variation in Chevy Orange from bright orang to almost red. Replacement engines were probably a different color just like they do today. Mexican made replacement engines used to be easy to spot because they were black. The blue engines were the "Blue Flame 6" I would imagine if you had a fleet of cars ordered like for the government or say Yellow Cab, you could probably specify the color you wanted. My 57 pickup had a grey 6 engine. It started life as a U.S. Navy truck.

Jojo
01-30-2004, 04:02 PM
Where can you pick up some Chevy Orange Paint? I'm rebuilding a motor for my father-in-law and that step is going to come up. Thanks.

visor
01-30-2004, 06:16 PM
[ QUOTE ]
1955 = orange
1956 = red
1957 265 = chartuse (early)
1957 283 = orange

Even Chevrolet orange looks like red though. [/quote
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AND.......
For the rest of you that still believe that all chevys
were orange.... go to www.justchevys.com/classic5.htm (http://www.justchevys.com/classic5.htm)
and check out the judging outline.
Good info on the valve cover script colors and
a whole lot more.
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"OPOSSUM BENDERS"
Central Missouri Chapter

Django
01-30-2004, 06:27 PM
From the link...

All 1955 V8 motors are CHEVY ORANGE with BLACK valve cover stencils. All 1956 V8 motors are CHEVY RED, with BLACK valve stencils. A few EARLY 1957 265 V8 engines (standard transmission ONLY) were painted chartreuse (lime green) by Chevrolet, and they had BLACK stencils on the valve covers. After about November 1956, all 265 engines were CHEVY ORANGE (as are the 283 motors), and the valve cover scripts were SILVER.


I've got to see one of these early chartreuse motors... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

CLSSY56
01-30-2004, 07:06 PM
not all came with painted script though...

fab32
01-30-2004, 08:00 PM
My information is that the chartreuse 265's were painted that color to identify them as 265's at the start of the '57 model year. There wern't very many of them as they were leftover engines from the '56 model year and when the 283 production took off they were the only engine used for the rest of the year. This was told to me by the man I rented an apartment from while attending General Motors Institute. He worked at the Chevrolet V8 engine plant in Flint, Michigan during that time so I took him at his word.

Frank

Roothawg
01-30-2004, 08:36 PM
SoCal.....that motor is spot on! That is a nice job hitting the era right on the head.What is the coating on the ramhorns? Wondering how well that holds up?

R&C Lee
01-30-2004, 09:37 PM
Roothawg, Thanks, the coating is POR-15 Manifold Gray. I haven't had a chance to run the engine yet so I don't know about how well it'll look after that. The engine paint was also POR-15.

If anyone knows where I can get another Corvette 9-fin valve cover without taking out a bank loan, let me know, I have one on there now.

draggin'GTO
01-30-2004, 09:54 PM
I have the POR-15 Manifold Gray on a pair of repro Ram Air exhaust manifolds that are bolted onto my daily-driver Pontiac 455. After 25K miles and over four years of driving they still look great, it's a good product. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

----- Bart -----

Tman
01-30-2004, 10:05 PM
My 55 265 is Blue/green

50mercfan
01-30-2004, 10:06 PM
my referance material says that a very small number of 265's were painted yellow in 1957 the rest were orange.

Roothawg
01-30-2004, 10:47 PM
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I have the POR-15 Manifold Gray on a pair of repro Ram Air exhaust manifolds that are bolted onto my daily-driver Pontiac 455. After 25K miles and over four years of driving they still look great, it's a good product. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

----- Bart -----

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Man that is good to hear. I didn't wanna hafta fork over the bux to have mine powdercoated. I really was looking for a dull satin finish and I think that fits the ticket...is it pricey ? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

50Fraud
01-31-2004, 02:26 AM
SoCal, I'm sorry, I can't tell you the origin of the generator bracket on my 265 -- it was on it when I got the engine. It's not much use, though, as it has very little range of adjustment.

draggin'GTO
01-31-2004, 03:16 PM
Actually the POR-15 Manifold Gray (http://www.por15.com/product.asp?productid=260) is very reasonably priced, I bought a $26 pint and used way less than half of it to do my manifolds.

----- Bart -----

R&C Lee
01-31-2004, 08:56 PM
No problem 50fraud, I figured I was going to have to make something up. Most of the ones I've seen from the late 50s and 60s were welded onto the header somehow. The heads are staggered hole so there's no holes drilled in the front like the `69 and later ones.

CLSSY56
02-01-2004, 12:09 AM
SBC early colors seem to not be defined very well.

See link...
http://www.chevytalk.org/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=716595&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=1

ShortBus
02-01-2004, 12:36 AM
Leaky- That 'plant is teats.

Here's 50Fraud's with the hood on.

http://home.socal.rr.com/rickamado/millerpickup02-sm.jpg

johndanger
02-02-2004, 08:34 PM
heres a pic of an original chartruse SBC in a 57 chevy

Django
02-02-2004, 11:39 PM
Alright, we have a winner! Sweet. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif I like it.

Stone
02-03-2004, 01:01 PM
Were can I find more info on military 283s?Pics for possible restorations?