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burndup
01-29-2004, 09:35 PM
I've been doing CPR since day one, and now I caused a pretty hefty injury...

Driving this '66 cadillac around with a busted motor mount for a couple months, not driving it a lot, but couldn't spare the time to fix it cause I was using all my free time to fix the copper truck. (I have a commute car for work and uh... freeway racing.)

Anyway, as long a you got on it easy when taking off, it was fine, otherwise, if ya hit the gas too hard, you hear the fan clicking against the radiator shroud.

I was moving the car from one side of the street to the other the other day, forgot about the condition (new motor mounts were sitting inside on a shelf)

... there was a car coming and I wanted to get across the street, accidentally got leadfooted an heard this happen:

burndup
01-29-2004, 09:43 PM
The motor jumped up, bent the blade, and... La Machine.

I was gonna do a caption contest, but I figured it would get too gory....


So, I think that radiator is a gonna be too expensive, I could solder it myself, but it aint gonna cool worth shit.

I think I should say FUCK the rustbucket car, pull the 429/400 and save it for a roadster, put the DOPE tilt/tele column in the copper truck, hang the hubcaps on the wall, saw the trunk off and make a couch, and put fluffy cushions on said couch casue my ass is gonna hurt a bit from the l0$$ I'm gonna take on that car.... Power steering doesn't work, as said before, its swiss-cheese... on a good day I could get like $1800 out of it.

I'd personally rather take the loss then bust my ass fixing it, I really dont enjoy driving it a ho ho lot, it is rather pimp, but its a real fucking roach.

But, will I go to hell for killing a "cool old car?" I think that the world would be better served with that motor in an A.

I fucking hate the "gee guys, what the fuck should I do, I have no clue" kind of posts, but I'd like to hear whatch yall think...

Thanks,
J


here is the G-Unit on better days...

burndup
01-29-2004, 09:47 PM
Hit up my homie for the Zag, put da fowty in a bag, I got me a fuckin belt so my pants dont sag...

ESnacky6
01-29-2004, 09:53 PM
Take what you want off of it, then contact a specialty
Caddy wrecking yard...like AA Cadillac(I think..?)...
they'll take it off your hands I'm sure, and they can part
off all the oddball parts before it goes crush-o-la...
stuff like the glass, suspension, interior hoo-ha's, etc....

burndup
01-29-2004, 10:00 PM
yeeeah, I've got one of those up the street, literally...


So, how about pix of open-motor Caddy motivated vehicles... to cinch my decision?

I've got a storage unit to store the shit... I just need nab a rather stout shopping cart....

desertratrodder
01-29-2004, 10:02 PM
Take what you want and I'll take the rest. A wrecker usually wont give you shit if its not complete, and they'll charge you to take it if its not. At least it'll sit in my classic car storage-boneyard, and you wont go to hell for killing a classic! I will not crush a classic car. Cut it up yes, but the crusher gets the Imports and new domestics.
Let me know!!

Zeke
01-29-2004, 10:04 PM
Strip anything and everything you can use and scrap it. No loss cause it's not that cool anyway.

burndup
01-29-2004, 10:08 PM
MR Desert ratrodder, will you come pick it up if I should choose to donate it to your "museaum? Do you have a way of pulling ~4000 pounds of dead weight up onto a trailer? (4900 with me and the engine trans in it...) Can I still cut the trunk off and make a new couch? Can I keep the rear plate? Already keepin the front one, I gots a shrine to the cars I killed...

gettingreasy
01-30-2004, 02:50 AM
I'd drive the livin shit outta that car! I wish my Trump didn't get stole or I would've traded ya. But anyway pull the motor and give it to a Caddy yard so they can put the pieces to good use.
-Jesse

Anthony
01-30-2004, 03:46 AM
I gotta agree with "gettingreasy" ... What does it need? Aside from a radiator ...

Sailor
01-30-2004, 03:55 AM
Thats a cool car bone stock in my book.

daign
01-30-2004, 04:00 AM
http://www.daign.com/hamb2/whitecadillac4.jpg

I still see a future in cash out of this deal..............
Fix till it runs, add some chrome sell it.

-Dane

RileyRacing
01-30-2004, 06:35 AM
Wow, it'd have to be really bad to wanna scrap something like that around here... when you say "rustbucket" are you talking surface rust everywhere or throw a cat thru the quarters rust? Cause from where I sit (at about -9 degrees below right now http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif) it don't look that bad!

Jay

Ayers Garage
01-30-2004, 09:01 AM
You're just burned out on it. That's an easy fix. Buy one of those universal flex fans in the appropriate size. Then a radiator off of Ebay from that place (I get all of mine there- usually 150 bucks delivered) and fix that MoFo.

Total about 200 with antifreeze included.

You'll go to a burning hell for destroying such a cool old car.......

autocol
01-30-2004, 09:10 AM
just remember the girl at the club that told you what she'd do to you in that car!...

keep it! for sure...

Bruce Lancaster
01-30-2004, 11:45 AM
On the other hand, my friendly local yard charges about $35 for radiators from the rack (all the GM ones in a row, you just choose by size), considers fans nearly wothless, and sells radiators from the back 40 (you-take-out-no-guarantee-at-all) even cheaper. Yours is out, which is actually more work than putting the new one in, and the removed rad even makes the mount easier to reach...

40StudeDude
01-30-2004, 12:11 PM
It's a two-door hardtop...that alone is worth hanging onto...wouldn't take that much to do the radiator...and the p/w pump is a junkyard item...all you need is a couple $$ and some time...unless the body is shot full of rust...and you're totally done with the car...if you are, then they're nothing anyone can do to talk you out of it!
R-

burndup
01-30-2004, 12:14 PM
See, here we have a fundamental problem... Yes, it wouldn't be much to fix it, time, $, and effort wise...

But I have no time anymore, any time left over should be spent on my copper truck, a chopper project I have on the back burner, and that Leftover Special, which I've owned for nearly two years and haven't even drug home yet. I'm still young and single, I need to be out causing trouble, staying at home busting my ass on a car can wait till I'm married and miserable!

I originally bought this car for $400 to "save" it. She's fought me tooth and nail. "Fine, bitch, have it your way."

Yeah, its surface rust, been poorly fixed once, now its worse, theres a small fist sized hole in the rear pillar, they are both swiss cheese... a few dents...

Body work isn't my thing. no place to do it at. I'm inherently too lazy to do the minimum level of quality work that would make me happy and have the job be worthwhile.

Power steering doesn't work.

Put it this way... I'm into this car about $1800 bucks, if someone has a deal, or a trade (motorcycle!) they'd like to discuss with me for the COMPLETE car as it sits, I'm all ears, and it would take some major bullshit to offend me offer-wise at this point, so theres no harm in asking.

Did I mention it runs (ran) great? had it up to 85 on the freeway the other day. Brakes have been gone over, too.

Autocol, the girl made good on the promise, I have no need for this vehicle any further! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Thanks,
J

DrJ
01-30-2004, 12:17 PM
Only part out sedans and rust buckets.The radiator's cheap, the dents can be fixed.
I'd fix it.

38Chevy454
01-30-2004, 12:21 PM
Get a used radiator, used fan, put together and sell for $1500 or whatever you can get. Fab a quick torque chain from head to frame rail so it doesn't repeat the radiator to fan mating ritual. Or put the new mounts in and have it fixed for good.

Check the U-pull type yards around and find the parts you need. Up here the Pick-n-Pull always have mid 70's Caddy's all over, I'm sure you could find a radiator that would work out of some full size GM for cheap.

Selling that pimp ride for $1500 or so is far beter than saving that engine for a later rod project. Take the $1500 from that and buy a nice engine, not saying Cad is bad, but you could buy that same engine and trans for probably $400, and be $1100 ahead. If you want to go Cad engine in a future rod, get a 472 or 500, from a late 60's to 70 car. The mid 70's smog motors have lower compression.

TINGLER
01-30-2004, 12:38 PM
RUST???

Ha hahaha ha. California folks must have NO concept of rust.

Fix it a little and sell it.... It seems your frustrated (and should be), but there's no reason to go killing an old car. Send it on to the next guy. Keep it alive.


This is a pic of my new project. Its definitely a "keeper".

cleatus
01-30-2004, 12:47 PM
Burndup, you're the funniest dude on here.

You remind me so much of an old friend of mine that was/is always the cause of his own misery.

Spend a weekend of hard labor and stand a chance of recouping your losses - or - take er to the vet and have her put down.

SamIyam
01-30-2004, 12:48 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Selling that pimp ride for $1500 or so is far beter than saving that engine for a later rod project.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ok, who are you and what have you done with Terry?

The real 38Chevy454 just hacked up a cream puff '60 Olds four door hard top for the motor... no dents, no rust... good runnin' car... so, YOU CAN'T FOOL ME!!

Whomever you are on Terry's computer. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Sam!

plan9
01-30-2004, 12:59 PM
burndup... im in the market for a running cad motor/trans. if you want to wheel and deal let me know http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

ill even get you an octane2 like you asked for months ago. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

burndup
01-30-2004, 01:06 PM
See, I knew I was wrong and I needed some sense slapped into me....

My destructive tendancies lead me to a proclivity to DESSSSSSSSSSSSTROYYYYYYYYYYYY! Consciience knew killing it was wrong.

I would rather have the money, and I'd rather see the car go into the hands of some bodywork wizard...

junkyard mission... electric fan cause I have an extra one and I'm a nerd...

And yes, I AM most often the cause of my own misery, which is why I'm the happiest person I know!

That made sense to me at least...

Thanks,
J

burndup
01-30-2004, 01:08 PM
$1300 and a dual-proc octane2 and you can even drive it home, I just gotta fix it first! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

plan9
01-30-2004, 01:52 PM
hey, lets talk.. ill pm you my number

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

DrJ
01-30-2004, 01:52 PM
Of course, I have what used to be a good running (almost) rust and dent free Volvo wagon cut up in pieces all over the back yard.... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

burndup
01-30-2004, 06:39 PM
Dr J, I would be STOKED to see some pix of that volvo in its current state!

-J

38Chevy454
01-30-2004, 06:39 PM
Yeah, this is kinda ironic, me telling him to put the car back together and sell it instead of parting it out. Big difference is I paid much less and have more valuable parts that people need than burnedup's Caddy. The 60 Olds was even reg'd and titled as well. The main issue is that is is a 4 door and it would take like $10,000 to make it really nice, and then you have a car worth $5,000 when finished. Not to mention it's a huge boat. The way I see it is that much cooler 2 door Olds and hot rods will benefit from the redistribution of that 4 door.

Anyone still need any 60 Olds parts???? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

burndup
01-30-2004, 07:00 PM
ANother thing why I don't enjoy driving the car, it IS a boat, I curse people trying to maneuver their SUV's around in parking lots up there lookin all skeer their gonna put a ding in their big baby...

My thoughts are "Well if ya can't handle driving something that goddamn huge, you shouldn't have it!!!"

Then I get into the 20ft long, 2.8 ton, un-assisted steering battlestar and I think.... "DOH!!!"

But I also think back to the time some dumbass talking on his cell phone almost ran me off the road in my copper truck... I swerved hard to get out of his fool ass way...

had I been in that caddillac, I woulda full -on gunned it and tipped that fucker over.....


Speaking of, heres a good story of the last adventure I had driving it last week....

I'm coming back from napa parts in it, cause they gave me the wrong starter for my truck,and I'm coming home with the right one. on Victory heading back into burbank... between vineland and Skankershim, I'm in the left line driving alongside the center yellow, RIGHT along the line, cause its so Ffin wide...

I don't know WTF this broad on crack in an old rx7 is doing, but she majorly peels and guns it out of a sidestreet on the far side, starts coming down towards me the opposite direction, to the turn lane that runs right next to the center yellow on her side.

Well, traffic in front of her is stopping, (remember, she's going the opposite way) so she has to nail the brakes, she fishtails it across the line, And I totally think I'm gonna cream her, but I dont swerve, cause I think theres a car on my other side... so I say "I am invinceable inside this monster!" just put both hands on the wheel, and point it straight down the road, I see her eyes go as wide as saucers, somehow she straightens it out in time, theres like a hairs distance between our sideviews, and the priceless part, as the tire smoke comes pouring in, she exclaims as our windows pass each other:

jeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEZzzzzusssssss! (doppler effect)

I must rebuild it as a road warrior... toothy grill, spikes, etc.

DrJ
01-30-2004, 08:38 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Dr J, I would be STOKED to see some pix of that volvo in its current state!

-J



[/ QUOTE ]

I made the mistake of letting the previous owner of the 240Z I cut up see it in pieces...I'd hate to see a grown man cry and wail like a "girl". http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'll see if I can take some in the day time.

Munson
01-31-2004, 11:17 AM
You could fix the dents/ surface rust and flat blk it! Even the 60's boats look cool flat blk IMHO.

Heres a lincoln for inspiration.

NoSurf
01-31-2004, 11:27 AM
You need to listen to the Brian Setzer tune " I got the '49 mercury blues"

Mojo
01-31-2004, 03:13 PM
Is that a Calais? I've seen plenty 2drs, but not many with that roof line/quarter window. I'd like to have it, but I don't have the time/money for it. Please don't kill it off... i'm sure someone somewhere would like to have it...

burndup
01-31-2004, 03:34 PM
No, it isn't the calais, it had a vinyl top, underneath of which there was a lot of rust, so someone tore "most" of it off, and bondo'd over the rest, I mean, rust. And over some vinyl.

Hmm, don't tempt me with the black primer!

As soon as I'm done being hungover Ima go to the junkyard today and look for a rad.

Doc, no crying here over that volvo, I would have like to cut it up myself!

...or put a video camera in it and push it off a cliff.