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safariknut
01-26-2004, 05:31 PM
OK so I'm a little fired up from this past week.I was out in the shop today and decided to do a small panel to demonstrate my way of doing gold leaf.
I will have a list of tools(some high tech;like the talc jar with the piece of sock over the top affixed by a cable tie)at the end of this.I don't know how many parts it will be but I'm starting part one while the gold is drying and besides my floppy disc was full so I had to come in anyway.
I'm using a piece of gray primed aluminum as a demo panel.After cleaning it thoroughly with wax and grease remover,I set it aside to make the pattern.
It's not necessary to make a pattern if you are only doing one of a particular job,but it is almost essential if you are doing multiples.And besides it will give you an idea of pattern making.
I select a piece of trusty butcher paper and draw the design on the uncoated side.It isn't necessary to have it exactly on center as you can juggle it as you lay it on.However when it's drawn out you should make a center line reference on it to ease in alignment later.
When it's drawn to your satisfaction,a pounce wheel(looks like a miniature pizza cutter)is run over the outline of the letters to perforate the paper.A note here:My drawing board is coated with galvanized sheet(I normally use an Electro-Pounce but my friend took his back)and if you try to use the pounce wheel on it,the wheel will dull quickly and the paper won't perforate very well.I stick a piece of heavy drawing paper under my design to cushion the wheel and allow the wheel to go down through the paper.Don't use cardboard as it's too thick and will make the design tear.
Once you have the design pounced,center it across your panel and affix it with a couple pieces of tape(on the top only as you need to be able to lift the pattern to see if the powder is coming through properly.)and then taking your Hi-Tech pounce pad(the talc bottle)squeeze it slightly to get some powder in the head and then begin tapping lightly all over where the perforations are.I usually tap for awhile and then rub the head across the surface to settle the powder through.Pick up a corner to check it to see how it's coming.
When satisfied,remove the pattern and blow off any excess dust.Take some cellophane(Scotch is good;don't use cheap stuff it leaves residue and sometimes sticks TOO well)tape and lay down on your top and bottom of your letters.Do them individually folding over a corner to make removal easier so it doesn't go under your round letters(O,S,G,etc.).The bottoms of those letters have to protrude slightly above and below the straight bottomed ones.It's a visual thing.
Mix up some 1-Shot gold size in a cup with a hint of color in it(so you can see what you're lettering depending on what the surface color is)and paint your letters as usual(see previous post part II).When finished lettering,pull your upper and lower guide tapes immediately. I usually paint a test strip before I start and after I finish on another surface to test the tack of the size.This is important because if you lay the leaf on when the size is too wet,it will be absorbed by the size and if you put it on when the size is too dry it won't adhere.
To test the size,lay your knuckle on the test strip and pull it away quickly.If the size is set properly you will hear a slight snapping sound.Old sign guys used to do it right on the letter and you use your knuckle because there is no skin oil there as opposed to your fingertip.The oil will mess up the leaf adhesion.
The illustration shows the two basic types of leaf I use:The larger is variegated gold(bronze leaf that has been chemically discolored)and is much sturdier than real gold(the smaller sheet;23K window leaf(no imperfections)but about 1/10th the price.I'll be using the real gold here because I want to demonstrate how I get an "engine turned"effect and the variegated leaf is kind of resistant to that(and it's hard to see on all the colors).
The easiest way to put on leaf is to roll it.I must say here that when doing this you have to have a wind free environment (and don't breathe hard either)unless you are using leaf that is adhered to the tissue.I use loose leaf which is very susceptible to breezes.
Take the package and expose part of the leaf.Align the edge with the bottom of the letter(allow a little overlap)and very carefully roll the package upward gradually exposing the whole sheet.Be careful not to let the tissue hit the sizing or the leaf won't stick there.Repeat this process using a slight overlap until all the letters are covered completely.
I then take a cotton ball and very lightly tap down the leaf all over until I'm sure it has covered everything.I then take an old camera brush(another hi tech tool I got a a flea market for a dime;used for dusting camera lenses)and VERY GENTLY(because it does scratch the leaf)dust across the letters paying particular attention to the edges.I then dust all excess leaf off the surface and let dry for awhile(overnight).
The leaf is now ready to be burnished(engine turned)which will happen in Part 2. Stay tuned!
Ray

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D Picasso
01-26-2004, 06:48 PM
cool.

I like using a big fitch [brush] with a little forehead oil to pull the leaves out of the book. nice work so far!

beatnik
01-26-2004, 06:59 PM
Great timing Ray. I just got some variegated gold leaf and wanted to try this out, and know I've got directions. I can hardly wait for Part two.

Thanks

safariknut
01-26-2004, 07:05 PM
Part II
With the leaf applied and burnished,I now apply the engine turning.Everybody has their own take on what to use;some use a cotton ball(my preference)while others use a piece of velvet attached to a pencil eraser.I've seen guys use a corner of their T-shirt!
Whatever you use,I take my cotton ball and GENTLY press it against the top of a letter stroke and twist it about 1/4 to 1/2 turn,move it down about 1/2 the diameter of the ball and repeat doing this until I've covered the area of the letter.If it doesn't stand out enough I go back over it a little more firmly until I'm satisfied with the result.
I do all the letters and set it aside to dry.I then use my Swirly-Q(I'm trying to remember how I ever survived before they were invented!LOL)to outline the letters.That too is set aside to dry.
In Part III I'll do a shade in a couple of colors and add some hot spots to the outlines.Stay tuned for more!
Ray

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Fast Elvis
01-26-2004, 07:06 PM
Wow! Safariknut, is there nothing you can't do,... your a " Jack of all trades" brother. Nice tech session...when's the next class starting...teach.

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MetalFlaked60
01-26-2004, 07:18 PM
WOW thats cool. jamie

Deuce Rails
01-26-2004, 09:39 PM
Awesome post!

delaware george
01-26-2004, 10:52 PM
that's so cool...i've been wanting to learn that http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

safariknut
01-26-2004, 11:43 PM
OK here goes the last part:
There are two basic types of shadows to add to lettering;the so-called,"perspective"shade(which I am using)and the,"drop"shade.The perspective shade is constructed so that the letter appears to have dimension to it whereas the drop shade makes it appear that the letter is floating in mid-air.
The layout of a drop shade is easy if you have made a pattern for your letters:you just take the pattern and set it over the lettering so that it is slightly lower and either left or right of the lettering on there.The perspective usually(but not always)requires laying out all over again(see first pic).
Another difference is that the color for a perspective shadow should be a complement of the lettering color where a drop shade is usually a darkened version of the background color.Not a hard and fast rule but a good place to start.
The layout I used(and normally use)has the perspective lines at a 45 degree angle from vertical.You may use whatever angle you like but in my opinion 45 degrees works best.I also try and make the shadow equal in width to the widest element of the letter.You can vary this for special effects but again this is agood place to start.
On larger lettering I would have used a regular lettering quill(chisel-edge)but as these letters are only 2" high I opted to use(what else?)my Swirly-Q!
I also only used one color for the shadow but old timers liked to do a 2 color one with serif areas shaded further and a 2 color outline to simulate light spots reflecting off the high side.You can really get carried away doing this and sometimes it can be hard to stop.If you're getting paid for it,it's better to keep it simple because few customers can really understand justifying an outrageous bill.
So the shadowing is done and all that's left is to add the "hot spot" which is nothing but where a light source would reflect on the surfaces.I use a 10 o'clock position for all my light sources which on a concave surface(such as a serif or the inside of a round letter)usually reflects at about 45 degrees.Makes it easier to place my reflections.
And finally you see a close up of the letters and an overall shot.All that remains is to clear everything(after removing all the guide marks of course being careful not to touch the gold)and the job is complete! FINALLY!!!!!
Of course I've barely scratched the surface of the art of lettering but it will give the neophyte an idea of what to do and maybe give some insight on why real gold leaf lettering is so expensive.
Thanks for bearing with me and I hope you all enjoy it as much as I did putting it together.
Ray Smith(one day into "coothood")

safariknut
01-26-2004, 11:44 PM
the next one

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01-26-2004, 11:45 PM
and another

safariknut
01-26-2004, 11:45 PM
still another

safariknut
01-26-2004, 11:46 PM
The final one

BARNETT
01-27-2004, 12:22 AM
Nice work Ray! Now...quit givin' away all the secrets! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Brootal
01-27-2004, 02:24 AM
Great work again safariknut. You're one clever old coot! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I just spoke to a mate of mine who is a sign writer and pinstriper. He reckons I can buy One Shot and Mack brushes etc at a local place.

Inspiring stuff.

Thanks.

warpigg
01-27-2004, 02:30 AM
thanks

safariknut
01-27-2004, 02:55 AM
[ QUOTE ]


I just spoke to a mate of mine who is a sign writer and pinstriper. He reckons I can buy One Shot and Mack brushes etc at a local place.



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Thanks for the kind words.If you ever find yourself in need of a specialized Mack brush,I am only about 40 miles from the factory and would be glad to pick it up for you.
Ray

Unkl Ian
01-27-2004, 01:26 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I can buy One Shot and Mack brushes etc at a local place.



[/ QUOTE ] Remember the Magic words: Blue Thread http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

safariknut
01-27-2004, 03:54 PM
OOPS! I forgot my tool list.I'll try and list everything used in this tech.
For pattern making the following:
Butcher paper(glossy on one side)
Soft lead pencil
Pounce wheel(available at most art supply houses)
Straight edge
45 degree triangle
Painting supplies:
1-Shot quick dry gold size
1-Shot color(any to tint size slightly)
#8 lettering quill
Jenson Swirly-Q(both available from Mack Brush)
Mineral spirits or 1-Shot reducer
A suitable palette(glossy magazine is good)
Thinner cups(1oz.medicine cups are good;anything that doesn't have a waxy coating on them)
Scotch brand 1/2" cellophane tape
Pounce bags(these can be made from an old sock filled with talcum powder(for going over dark surfaces)or powdered graphite(for light colored surfaces)and tied off with an elastic band.You can buy professional ones(Hansee makes the best ones)at art supply stores as well as the graphite.Talc you buy at CVS.
Stabilo pencils(white and blue are the best;stay away from red ones;they stain white surfaces)also available at art supply stores.DON'T get them wet!
Gold leaf;either genuine or variegated.Most sign supply stores can get real gold and art supply stores will carry variegated in several different colors.Costs about $1 per square(5").Haven't bought real gold in 30 years so can't give a price(it changes daily according to the market price).
Cotton balls.
A soft lens brush available at a camera store.
A good vacuum cleaner for picking up the mess afterwards.
A good supply of Bount paper towels.I use Bounty exclusively because they won't scratch the surface as some paper towels do.
A good brand of wax and grease remover.I use RM or whatever the local auto body supply store carries.

Hope I got everything and good luck!
Ray

delaware george
01-07-2005, 06:50 PM
what do you use to clear everything with?

do you just clear the leaf?...like if you wanted to have the background still be a flat paint

safariknut
01-07-2005, 07:05 PM
George:
You can just clear over the leaf and 1-Shot using a good spar varnish or 1-Shot Tinting Clear.Just do a test piece to make sure the varnish doesn't wrinkle the 1-Shot.If you overlap the edges slightly,it will help seal it better.
I normally clear everything using either PPG 2021 or the new 3000 series clear.It's great because you can spray it and bake it at 140 degrees for 10 minutes and it's ready to go.

buffaloracer
01-07-2005, 07:43 PM
Thanks.

Isaak_M
01-07-2005, 07:59 PM
Great post Ray, thanks!!!

rustyparts
01-07-2005, 08:05 PM
That gold leaf looks good in the sun light to!

demonspeed
01-07-2005, 08:40 PM
is this post going in the tech-o-matic? its a really cool post and itd be nice to have it there for future reference

delaware george
01-08-2005, 12:59 PM
thanks ray http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Chandler
01-08-2005, 03:16 PM
Thanks Ray. Hopefully Pyschoarts turns it into a file like the others. I like printing them out and storing them for future reference

safariknut
01-08-2005, 03:28 PM
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Thanks Ray. Hopefully Pyschoarts turns it into a file like the others. I like printing them out and storing them for future reference

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I hope he does too.If I was more computer literate,I'd do it myself.

Ryan
07-26-2005, 09:30 AM
Blast from the past.... I'm doing a quick search and bringing up some older post to reconsider...

drhotrodmd
07-26-2005, 11:41 AM
I like this gold leaf post too! When we used it to do the letters on the Sin Wag'n we airbrushed little spots of red over to top of the goldleaf to make it look like the letters from the cover of a 100 year old book.

wingnutz
07-26-2005, 01:37 PM
Blast from the past.... I'm doing a quick search and bringing up some older post to reconsider...

I forgot all about this post..., thanks Ryan for reviving this thread..!

airkooled
07-26-2005, 02:33 PM
Ryan, excellent idea bringing these old posts back, especially for those of us who haven't been around so long.

I wrote down some notes on the lettering technique. Hope I can improve my stuff with this great advice.

brandon
07-26-2005, 02:43 PM
[/ QUOTE ] Remember the Magic words: Blue Thread blue.....??? i figured they were all green ...til ya started painting...... haha still want to get a blue to try ........till then .....i'll keep using my greens........brandon

85-percent
07-30-2005, 08:14 AM
Just want to say this how-to was more informative and downright valuable than anything I've eveer seen in the print magazines!

Bravo!


-85%

heyitsnate
08-02-2005, 10:14 AM
when i apply the size,how do i keep the brush marks from showing through? i can't seem to get it smooth...and it does'nt want to settle...

HotRodGal
08-02-2005, 11:21 AM
Awesome post Ray! Thanks.

dropped
11-29-2009, 07:58 PM
really cool! answered many questions

Chris Stapley
06-14-2011, 06:52 PM
Just saw this post for the first time today,great job as always from Ray. One of the nicest folks you'd meet anywhere! Saved!

paintbrush
06-24-2011, 08:11 PM
Ray, nice tutorial! Hope all is well!

philly the greek
06-24-2011, 10:35 PM
Ray, nice tutorial! Hope all is well!

X2, I might like to add a couple of my own techniques for consideration. When I do my trimming of the freshly laid leaf , I've always used fine cotton in a circular motion very gently . As for the "engine turning , I take a couple of cotton balls and wrap then with velour to make a small pad , and then do my burnishing . It makes the spin marks really shine . Lastly , I do all the clear coat befor I outline. That way the outline hides the clear coat edge . I hope this is of some help to those that are just starting out with the gold leaf craft .