Barrett Jackson [Archive]

daign

01-22-2004, 05:59 PM

I've attended a few of them. Its good fun drinking beer and walking around picture perfect cars. Some interesting stuff there quite often.

Anyone saying you can't get a car there at a decent price must be looking at cars that fetch high value. Of course a 100k car is going to sell for 100k. What do you expect?

I saw plenty of deals at the last one I was at, and wished I had the funds to jump on them. If there is ever one in your town GO its fun. It cost me $7. Heineken's were $6

If that costs too much you're in the wrong hobby regardless of what you build.

-Dane

hotrodladycrusr

01-22-2004, 06:35 PM

Last time I went it cost $20 or $25 to walk in the door. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif but I didn't travel over 2,000 miles to stand on the other side of the fence so I paid it. Food was on the expensive side I thought.

I did have a great time checking out the cars and the "beautiful" people in their slacks, cashmere sweaters, dresses and fancy hats.

Framedragger, make sure you wear your black E&J t-shirt so I can spot you in the crowd on TV. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I'll be watching all three nites I'm sure.

Deyomatic

01-22-2004, 07:14 PM

From what I'm hearing it is about $15- $25 to get in the door. The last event (Goodguys) at this venue in Scottsdale was charging like $12 for a burger, fries, and a drink.
So, in Scooter's defense, for him, his wife and daughter to attend, it will cost him a minimum of $50.

jerry

01-22-2004, 09:50 PM

no, he's just too cheap! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

jerry

ELpolacko

01-22-2004, 09:56 PM

Jerry's right, Scooter is cheap http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

If any of you folks would like a shop tour while you are here, stop by for a beer and stay a while.

Industrial Chassis Inc.
3536 West Osborn
Suite 5
Phoenix Arizona 85019

Or give us a call and we can give you directions, 602-278-6800

scooter

01-22-2004, 10:36 PM

WOW cheap hu http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif .. NOOOOO broke is more the word!The cost for me is 25$ ,if the wife goes another 25.00, the baby is 15.00$, kids under 12 .babysitter is even more. then parking is 5-15 $ then food ,and gas .This SUCKS BIGTIME i used to work the barrett show for MANY years , now i can not even afford to look around .HAVE FUN ya all .

hotrodladycrusr

01-23-2004, 12:45 AM

I just finished watching 3 hours of live coverage and really enjoyed it for the most part. The annoucers seemed like they had their facts together alittle better then last year but they still made a few really stupid comments. Definantley better then watching prime time TV.

Deyomatic

01-23-2004, 12:54 AM

"This color is actually called Plum Crazy."
(30 seconds later)
"Wait, we're now being told that the color is not Plum Crazy it is Panther Pink."
(5 mins later)
"We just got an email confirming that the color is actually called Panther Pink."

Did anyone else see the nice looking 54 Mercury that went for about 12grand? They made a HUGE deal about some scratches on the bumper and I could have sworn Alain De Cadenet was trying to give the car a "slumming it" feel calling it a "project."
He'd shit his knickers if he saw MY '55!

Anderson

01-23-2004, 01:01 AM

That 4-door '35 Ford cabriolet would be cool...looked pretty stock, but all the eddie meyer goodies under the hood...cool!

I wasn't paying much attention, but I think one of the guys said something about the flathead in a nice blue '50 ford convertible being incorrect? they started talking about Y-blocks...? I think they mixed something up.

A lot of nice cars and a lot more to come.

Tman

01-23-2004, 03:40 AM

Brock Yates and crew are as screwed up on their facts as last year! Listening to them reminds me of the poor translations on Iron Chef, only cars not food.

tommy

01-23-2004, 08:29 AM

Yeah they get some pretty basic stuff wrong but NOBODY knows <font color="red">EVERYTHING </font> about tha various parts of the auto hobby. Can you match trivia points with them on Alfa Romeros, Ferraris or Deusenbergs. I can't.

BUT... there is NO WAY I'd ever be caught dead driving a "resto-MOD" http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gifhttp://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

hatch

01-23-2004, 08:39 AM

Look at it this way....I don't know much about Duesenbergs....so why would I go on TV and pretend to????....especially on national TV???....those guys should either talk about what they know or just shutup. Do they think they are adding to the program with their wrong information, or are they paid "by the word"????.....maybe bonuses for "good guessing"???.....I don't get it.

sirstude

01-23-2004, 08:50 AM

Did anyone notice that the camera guy ran into the hood of that black Olds Convert? Just kind of bumped into it, when they showed that shot again, they cut it just before the hit. Great price (still way too high for me) on that 34 Chevy coupe for what was there.

Doug

50mercfan

01-23-2004, 09:02 AM

they need one more person on stage, one that acually knows american cars. they kept saying that the 63 split window would have brought more money if it would have had the bigger engine option. well there weren't any bigger enigines in 63. and they created an entire new catogory, the "resto mod". same stuff as last year really.

zman

01-23-2004, 09:55 AM

I watched a little last night. A couple of things. I'm glad to see some of the prices came back down. And the announcers are pretty much idiots. The endless chatter just showed how much they don't know about cars.

Plowboy

01-23-2004, 10:09 AM

I about shit when that 34 Chevy Ton and 1/2 brought $38,000!

I thought that is where 2 idiots met.

I was out in the garage working on mine at the time and said (to the spacetruck) "I bet your brother is real proud of himself now, but you'll be cooler!"

I was kinda wishing that I hadn't converted mine into the spacetruck. All my truck needed was some new paint and a shiny bed and it would have been just as nice. I gave 2,500 for mine. For that kind of money I could have made enough to buy that 36 3 window I have always wanted!

hudson_hawk

01-23-2004, 10:31 AM

did anyone notice they called everything 32 a 34. if they dont know its on the monitor and i cant believe that repop went for 50k and the stell pickup went for 20 something

hotrodladycrusr

01-23-2004, 10:35 AM

Plowboy, were your ears buring last nite? We were talking about you, wondering if you saw the price that the truck went for. I guess you did. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Plowboy

01-23-2004, 10:48 AM

Yeah, the one I have in my grasp goes for big bucks, and the one I've always wanted (70 chevelle) goes for under 20 grand. Go figure.

I really hate that Alan DeCadawhatever dude though. He annoys me.

I thought those other guys needed a clue too.

That Amy Sparks auction chick is HOT though.

I am leaving work early today so I can get home by 4 to watch it all again. (obviously I am not busy)

zman

01-23-2004, 10:57 AM

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That Amy Sparks auction chick is HOT though.

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And boy did whe work some of those guys.... Half that stuff would of went for less..

hotrodladycrusr

01-23-2004, 11:04 AM

Those bidders ate up the "attention" from her. Don't know whether their grins we're from being the winner bidder or from her touching them. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
sexuality sells http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

**DONOTDELETE**

01-23-2004, 11:10 AM

I watched it last night and I thought that plastic 37 coupe went cheap. The guys on Speedvision dont know shit about hotrods but thats ok, I dont know shit about jags and Ferraris.

fordnutz

01-23-2004, 11:10 AM

I got so ticked watching the morons with their senseless babbling that I emailed them and suggested it would be nice with all the hot rods there if they could have someone that knows something about them as an announcer in the booth. They said a steel 37 with a flathead like the Minotti one would be worth more. Since they never made a steel 3 window maybe they were rite. The comment about the stock 50 rag with the Y-block was good to. I thought the British guy knew more about American cars than that moron Brock Yates. Is he really that stupid. Prices were really down this year. Incorrect cars were a bargain. Nutz

zman

01-23-2004, 11:13 AM

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. I thought the British guy knew more about American cars than that moron Brock Yates. Is he really that stupid.

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Yes I think he is. It just proves you don't have to be smart to drive....

Action Girl

01-23-2004, 11:17 AM

I watched it last night too...

I was droooooling over that packard carribean-- she was soooooo Yummy.

Now I just need to hit the damn lottery!

Stacey

36couper

01-23-2004, 11:26 AM

I agree the British guy doesn't know that much about American cars but he sure knows his shit about European cars! Have you ever watched the program where he drives the hell out of classic Ferrai's, Bugatti's, Alfa Romeo's..? He knows the details of those AND he can drive 'em too!
Notice the guy that bought the Chevy stake truck also bought the '47 Fleetline convertible? Must be nice......

Deyomatic

01-23-2004, 12:51 PM

36 Couper, that series is called "Victory by Design" and it really does kick ass. It is one of the few shows that Speed has on (sunday evenings) that is worth watching.

I accused Alain De Cadenet of making the remark above about that nice looking 54 Mercury being a "project." I caught it again last night and it was, in fact, one of the other idiots. Then the assholes continued to make remarks about how the car was not really worth that much because a restorer would have "alot of work to do to it" but for now it was a "good driver."
Hey douchebag, what was the car built for 50 years ago? I just bet the boys at Mercury may have actually intended for that particular car to be driven.
When the auction was over, they make the remark that "oh well, it's for a good cause."
SHIT, they made this thing out to be Charlie Brown's Christmas Tree, and it was a really nice car!

nomobux

01-23-2004, 01:58 PM

Gotta love .. got a tape in the VCR .. 6 hrs of humor & drooling

**DONOTDELETE**

01-23-2004, 02:35 PM

They cant know everything about everything! Seriously, are the hotrods there cool enough to really need a pro to call the shots? NO.

Fuck the hotrods, I think its cool to have a few beers and watch the big American classics sell. I love when that show is on. I wish it was alwas on instead of the WWF racing and gay ass talk shows they have.

The English Guy's show about Ferraris and Porsches is the best stuff on TV. No bullshit at all, fucking awesome.

so-cheap

01-23-2004, 02:37 PM

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no, he's just too cheap! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
jerry

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He is CHEAP. But so is Jerry.
I know someone who just walked in the side last year. (to the right of the ticket booth there was a walkway) He just acted like he knew where he was going.

so-cheap

01-23-2004, 02:39 PM

Oh yeah, there is no way I am going to watch it on TV with the sound on. Those guys were idiots. They didn't know crap about cars. That would be like me trying to do a sportscast!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Though I agree with 36couper:
"Have you ever watched the program where he drives the hell out of classic Ferrai's, Bugatti's, Alfa Romeo's..?"

That is my favorite show. An hour of this guy driving Ferraris on crooked roads....yeah baby.

hotrodladycrusr

01-23-2004, 03:09 PM

Not to change the topic BUT I gotta stick up for Jerry even though I know you guys are teasing him. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Jerry is sooooo generous he offered to ship an extra calendar he had to another HAMB member who's calendar got lost in the mail, and I had no more left to replace it with. I offered for the HAMB to reimburse him not only for the calendar but the shipping and he wouldn't hear of it! Great guy! The calendar got to its distination without a hitch.

There were a couple of others that did the same thing and as soon as tech week is over I think I'll do a thank you post to publicly pat those guys on the back.

Anderson

01-23-2004, 09:34 PM

Anyone else laughing their asses off after hearing them talk about the 'Lil' Beauty" '40 sedan Barris custom?

(yup, the best thing I've got going on this Firday night is watching t.v...)

2tall2beahotrodder

01-23-2004, 09:39 PM

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Anyone else laughing their asses off after hearing them talk about the 'Lil' Beauty" '40 sedan Barris custom?

(yup, the best thing I've got going on this Firday night is watching t.v...)

[/ QUOTE ] Yea, that was F*cking hilarious. Dumb ass's....

Jeff Norwell

01-23-2004, 11:53 PM

yep that Alan DeCadaneux..whatever....is a pompous ass.....just finished watching and funny thing is....... ALOT of those billet cars dont command real big money.They sold Lil Johns Buttera's 27 seedan and it only went for around low 30 something.......they were trying to pass it off as a historic rod.......anything built in the seventys aint historic..it's horrific http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Man that auction is GOLD CHAINER CENTRAL!!!!!!!!

Fast Elvis

01-24-2004, 12:12 AM

Nice call on the "Gold Chainer Central" line Brush... Barrett Jackson does attracted some nice cars but their all window dressing! These cars are like most of those " Gold Chainers"..all show and no go".. unless on a trailer for the car or a beach chair for the owner at a cruise.

littledeucecoupe427

01-24-2004, 02:30 AM

You guys see that guy in yellow buy that yellow camero for $112,000!!!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Anderson

01-24-2004, 02:53 AM

the yellow guy also payed $60,000 or so for a '67 (?) Corvette roadster. Nearly $200,000 for two cars. Some people have more money than they apparently know what to do with.

If you tried hard enough...you could buy 10 '32 Fords of various body styles for that much.

nomobux

01-24-2004, 09:52 AM

Yeh, the guy in yellow was a riot, but my favorite so far was the real OLD guy that looked like he came from a TENN. mtn top and bought that nice cream yellow Hudson vert for 80K. Didn't look like he'd live long 'nuff to get it home. Stand by .. 6 more hrs of fantasy to go !! It's either this or go out and stand in the snow. Another bloody mary please .... dear !

Tman

01-24-2004, 10:06 AM

I happen to watch Victory by Design, that guy is good on there. But, he is out of his league with American cars. Brock Yates? For a guy that just had 2 cars in Street Rodder, you would think he was a little sharper. What they are showing is entertainment, which we have to take with a grain of salt. Since they are aiming their demo at cae guys however, I feel that our constuctive criticism is waranted.

As for some of those buyers, many folks HIRE a nondescript guy to buy for them. There are even "cartels" that buy for wealthy clients that dont have the time nor desire to mingle with the masses. Think sheiks,movie stars, dictators etc.........

roadstar

01-24-2004, 10:55 AM

Actually they interviewed the guy inthe yellow jacket and he said it was his job to buy cars.

Cool job eh http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

jdubbya

01-24-2004, 01:31 PM

Must be rough, spending other peoples money, wearing cool yellow sport coats, must be the life! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

safariknut

01-24-2004, 02:34 PM

I just got off the phone with a friend of mine who deals cars and has a winter place in Arizona who went up there.His take on it was,"A bunch of drunken millionaires who are hell-bent on driving the prices of collector cars right out of sight".A couple of examples:a 2-tone blue 56 Chevy dual-quad motor ragtop that fetched 103 large!A 67 Vette big block at 135 large,The aforementioned Camaro,a Pink Cuda with a 383 4-speed at nearly a 100large! These f**kers probably feed those 12 dollar burgers to their dogs!

jdubbya

01-24-2004, 06:20 PM

HOLY SHIT!!!!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif I cannot believe the price that the copper and silver Zephyr just got....$400,000.00.... that is just crazy! I like the car but.... -Joe

36couper

01-24-2004, 06:38 PM

Watching the guy in the yellow jacket bid on that Camaro was like watching a WWF match. Did you see the spit and slobber coming out of his mouth when he was bidding? What a knucklehead! What does loving your wife and kids have to do with winning a bid on a car?? Pompous ass.
Speaking of pompous, the worst guy is the head guy, whatever his name is--he is either Barrett or Jackson. I can't remember. Seeing him jump up and down when the bidding gets hot makes me sick. That fucker is making money on both ends; buyer and seller. If he was at all humble, he would sit there and enjoy the show and not look like a greedy bastards when he claps.

Hackerbilt

01-24-2004, 07:33 PM

Here's a little blurb on the British/French guy....

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Alain De Cadenet - Bio
Birthplace: London
Residence: England/France

Alain de Cadenet made his reputation building and driving his own sports racing cars, taking-on the full "works" factory teams and, at times, even beating them. In 1976 he came third overall at Le Mans, which made his mark and in 1980, won two rounds of the World Sports Car Championship (Monza 1000k and Silverstone 6-Hours). At that time, this was considered a major achievement in an era of increasing professionalism, when it was unheard of for a self-funded privateer to take-on the "big boys" and win.

Alain is also one of the most respected and accomplished racers of classic and vintage cars and, during the course of his driving career, has owned and raced some truly important machines, particular in the marque of Alfa Romeo. Now, during the course of shooting six "Victory by Design" shows, it's probably safe to say that Alain has driven more different and important racing cars than any person in history.

In addition to his passion for cars, Alain is also an avid collector of motor cycles and airplanes (including a WW2 Spitfire). For many years he was also a collector and authority on George V stamps, even advising the British Postal Service on their collection. Alain's knowledge of vintage wines and period stills cameras is also formidable. He is genuinely a 21st century "renaissance man".

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Mom...can I be him when I grow up? PLEASE!

Alain is rightfully OUT of our league...and it doesn't bother me to say that! I think it's below him to even be on the "floor" at the auction.

Bill

nor cal nic

01-24-2004, 07:56 PM

how's about the starliner gettin' 64k? that's a guy's i know from up this way... good for him and, how about the ford shoebox gittin' 140k? i have one of them... hmmm...
nic

Bob K

01-24-2004, 11:06 PM

How about the Zephyer going for 400,000. That's just nuckin futs.

B http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif B

Greazer

01-24-2004, 11:27 PM

I have even found myself watching the commercials because I don't want to miss anything.

...So there I was, doing "my part" and watching their commercials but when they came back I had to let loose a loud stream of profanity. They showed the last few seconds of an auction and were rolling away with one of the most beautiful deuce roadsters I have ever seen! I was pissed that we didn't get to hear the full "9-yards" on this sweet piece of machinery.

They did mention that it was a 32 with hand fabricated body panels (The boattail was dead give away that this thing was not exactly stock ). Lookin' up the details at the Barrett Jackson web site revealed that this roadster is motivated by a 296 cid Flattie with an Ardun conversion! Hotttttttt.

Greazer

01-24-2004, 11:28 PM

Side Profile.

Tinbender

01-24-2004, 11:43 PM

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HOLY SHIT!!!!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif I cannot believe the price that the copper and silver Zephyr just got....$400,000.00.... that is just crazy! I like the car but.... -Joe

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If that is the car I'm thinking of(haven't had a chance to watch tv today) it's a Spokane car. 4 guy's I know went together and bought it a few months ago, just to re-sell. I don't wanna say what they gave for it, but they did GOOD!(I thought it would bring 250K or so) I'm bettin the guy they bought it from is kickin himself in the ass!
It is one of the nicest cars I've ever seen.

12pack

01-24-2004, 11:47 PM

OH NO new hambers they better do an intro

hotrodladycrusr

01-25-2004, 01:57 AM

Sure wish I was the wife of the guy that bought all 4 of those Callaway Corvettes. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

briggs&strattonChev

01-25-2004, 02:41 AM

ok this auction is getting ridiculously addicting for some.................my dad and I were working on my daily driver today and he had to leave at 2 pm so he could watch the fuckin show at my house! gee, thanks for nothing Barrett-Jackson lol

48_HEMI

01-25-2004, 10:44 AM

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HOLY SHIT!!!!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif I cannot believe the price that the copper and silver Zephyr just got....$400,000.00.... that is just crazy! I like the car but....

it's a Spokane car. 4 guy's I know went together and bought it a few months ago, just to re-sell. !( guy they bought it from is kickin himself in the ass!
It is one of the nicest cars I've ever seen.

If they bought it right. it was a good investment. I think it's twice the car SCRAPE ever was and sold for less than half http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

UNCLECHET

01-25-2004, 10:59 AM

Love it or hate it, some cool cars roll across! Good for the people that can afford it, I wish I could. I think Alan and the rest of the crew do a great job commenting. Between them all there's a lot of knowledge. I look forward to it every year. Oh well, just my 2 cents.

Iceberg

01-25-2004, 11:36 AM

These guys are out of control. Can you believe over $100K for a green, yes green duece roadster that was NOT an historic hot rod? You could have made that car for $50K! How about over $200K for a Shelby Mustang GT500 w/ an automatic? How about the goofy red '49 Dodge 1 1/2 ton stepside that the owner/seller had poured buckets of dollars on going for over $40K? However, it is addictive & I sure wish I had more money than brains.

Mike Zenor

01-25-2004, 11:51 AM

The price bid on that green deuce roadster was fucking insane. $110,000+ for a run-of-the-mill late '80s deuce rod - with a SBC, tweed interior and tilt/telescopic? You can buy that car all day at traderonline.com for $30-$40k.

Then, an hour later an Ardun deuce roadster goes for $95k. Still a stupid price, but the morons in that crowd were willing to pay $15k more for a fucking small block?!

Another thing - didja notice that sectioned blue shoebox? Sorta like Billy Gibbons'. I think that went for around $140k or something, buyer was Skip Barber.

By the way, the announcers didn't notice it but the guy who bought the Shelby GT500 was Ted Waitt of Gateway Computer fame.

Tman

01-25-2004, 12:57 PM

Hmmm, Ted must have backed off on the nose candy to afford that.

Mike Zenor

01-25-2004, 01:14 PM

Trent - http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Funny thing - I knew TW back a gazillion years ago, when he was a lil' kid. My dad used to buy cattle from his dad. My dad occasionally rubs elbows with Ted, at the $5 blackjack tables in Sioux City.

Tman

01-25-2004, 01:18 PM

Then I guess you know all the tales http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Mike

01-25-2004, 02:51 PM

I went to the auction yesterday. It's just a big car show to me.

I was able to kick the tires on Bob Harrop's 1961 Pontiac "Super Duty" Catalina. That was worth the $25 price of admission right there.

rikaguilera

01-25-2004, 03:04 PM

Intresting fact about this years auction. This year there is a larger than normal amount of European buyers. The American dollar has fallen in value so much, that the prices that the Europeans are picking up the cars at, in most cases, are realative bargains with the exchange rate. Hot Rods have become very popular overseas, and even at the prices that they are going for, they will probably make a profit abroad.

Toyghoul

01-25-2004, 03:26 PM

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If that is the car I'm thinking of(haven't had a chance to watch tv today) it's a Spokane car.

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Yep. That's the one! Still can't belive the $$$ amount!

safariknut

01-25-2004, 03:34 PM

Reminds me of a short story in AutoWeek once by Keith Martin who does all of the auction stuff for them.A prime example of,"Auction Fever"or,"I can piss farther than you can 'cause I've got a bigger.."you know the rest.
Anyway up for grabs was a pristine 57 Fuelie 'Vette that at the time was going for around 35 to 50K.These two imbeciles with more money than sense got into it and bid the thing up to 260K! and that didn't include the buyer's premium!
The ironic thing(that Martin mentioned in closing)was that the loser of the bidding war could take some consolation in knowing that if he wanted to,he could go out and buy about FIVE Fuelie 'Vettes for the same price and STILL have enough to register and insure them all!
Whatever the result it's a lose-lose situation.

oldandkrusty

01-25-2004, 06:09 PM

I sure am glad that I am not he only one to think that the majority of the commentators on this show are a bunch of f#*king idiots! My wife can't understand why I just about come unglued when I hear their senseless drivel. Especially Brock Yates. What a moron-no, make that a f#*king moron. I have met him on several occassions as he lives just down the road from my home in upstate NY and it would be hard to imagine anyone else that is as impressed with himself as is old Brock. A real horses ass. Alain De Cadenet may well be an expert on things European but, he don't know shit about our good old USofA cars so why does he keep jabbering on as if he does. The two of these guys really give me heartburn. Notwithstanding my complaints with the commentators, it was satisfying in an unusual way to see a "hot rod" draw the top price for the auction. I bet that really pissed off more than a few of the restorers and Europe-is-best f*#kwads. Kinda made my day.