Another Whitewall tech

[Fat ASS Whitewalls]

I've been making my own whitewalls for years. I've done about five sets with good results. I have a set on a car I drove everyday for three years. They still look as good today as the day I did them. Just about every tire has a factory line close to the tread, I use this for my whitewall edge. I grind the sidewall smooth with a DA sander and 80 grit paper. You don't have to grind a lot off, just get rid of the detail in the sidewall. Clean your tire real good with a wax and grease remover so the tape will stick. New tires work best, but I've done used one with the same results, just make sure you clean them real good to remove any tire dressings like Armor All. Tape up the side wall were you want the outer edge of your whitewall. Cover the rest of the tire with newspaper, leaving the area to spray uncovered. You don't have to dismount your tires if they are on rims. I just let the air out, and break loose the bead. Tape up the rim if the tire is mounted. I use KRYLON Fusion for plastic in a spray can, #2320 Gloss White. One can should do four tires, but buy two just in case, you don't want to run out. Spray a light coat and let it set up, then spray until you have the desired coverage. Don't make it any thicker than you need to. Let it set up, then remove the tape. WOW Whitewalls!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Here's the tire I started with, it's a used one. I can do four tires in about four hours. Dean

[Fat ASS Whitewalls]

Sidewall closeup

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After grinding

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Taping it up.

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Sprayed.

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The paint.

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Finished product. I have three cars of my own with tires done this way, and I did two others for friends. Dean

[Bigcheese327]

Any pictures of the finished product? How often must you "refresh" your whitewalls?

[Deyomatic]

How long does it last and does it crack?

[Fat ASS Whitewalls]

The whitewalls last a long time. When I was in Calif. they would last years, now that I'm in Missouri the weather sucks, so I might need to refresh them a little sooner. White shoe polish works for cleaning them up. Of course if you hit a curb, or run on a flat, your screwed. Really not good for them. Dean

[Kojack]

Very cool... my friend did the same on his Ranchero a while ago. Looked really good. I made the mistake of trying it with that Vinal spraypaint, because I thought normal paint would come off. Not the case... bad idea! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[KCsledz]

thats frickin sweet! I need to try that! I don't think that it would look too good on the 01 stationwagon though.

[kustumizer]

Kool. Do you have any up close pics of the finished product? Thanks Nate

[Mongo]

Thats pretty cool too. I'll take any option I can. If I can save money on tires that means more for other stuff.

[Cadillacin Marcus]

Cool!!!!

[Skate Fink]

....wide whites for everyone!!! Pretty cool........

[av8]

Excellent, valuable post, just a little late for me; I ordered big-and-little wide whites for my F-1 from Diamond Back last week! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Oh, well, with all the endorsements I've heard and read from Diamond Back customers I'm probably okay, but I am going to try your method. Thanks for sharing.

[JSM56]

btt good post.

[fitzee]

Cool idea funny thing I think the smooth black wall is cool as well.I live in a colder climate and think that the change in temp might play a big part in it cracking.I think the key is not to apply too much paint.Got to love the poor man stuff.

fitzee

[burndup]

I REALLY REALLY wanna see a closeup of the finished product after it has been on the road 6-8 months and not refreshed!

Good tip on the Fusion stuff, I read one of those cans once...

[burger]

Krylon Fusion also works GREAT for plastic dashboards and interior panels. It adheres well and holds up to the sun.


Ed

[chromedRAT]

my question about the fusion paint is how well it works when you refresh it with more paint? do you have to sand the old paint off and do it again? i can't remember what it was i did in the past, but something i used when i was a little kid worked good and dried well with one coat, and the second coat made it gooey and really undriable. i was gonna shell out some scratch for factory whites, i think i'll be reconsidering that one, and shaving a couple of hundred bucks off of my build cost!:)

[Jake H.]

Great poor man's post! I gotta save wherever I can to keep my bomb on the road. Just hope it doesn't put Coker outta business, they repop some cool stuff. I'm tryin' it this weekend!

[Fat ASS Whitewalls]

[ QUOTE ]
I REALLY REALLY wanna see a closeup of the finished product after it has been on the road 6-8 months and not refreshed!


[/ QUOTE ]Here's pictures of my tires on the S10. I drive this thing everyday. It's been in the snow, and the rain. I just took these pictures today, and the truck hasn't been washed for about two weeks. The whitewalls are a little over 6 months old. I haven't touched them up. The rear tire has sidewall cracks from age. They were in the tire before I put the whitewall on it. The cracks are not from the paint cracking. The front tires don't have the cracks. From 2 feet away you can't see them. New tires shouldn't have the cracks. These tires are about 5 years old, and sat outside on my 66 Caprice wagon. Dean (rear tire closeup)

[Fat ASS Whitewalls]

front tire

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Rear tire

[LiL' NiCk]

WOW!! I'm Thinkin bout scapin money together for my 52 chevy to do my customizations on a BUDGET...F.A> Whitewall...You're a GOD to the Blue-collar hotrodder. THANX.

QUESTION: F.A> Whitewall or Anyone...I want to paint my 52 chevy wheels blue (chevy blue, like that which is found on the stovebolt valve cover), Is this Fuision product appropriate to spray on the wheel? What primer is good OR is it not required?

My goal on my project is to go low-buget while still maintaining a "quality look" which does not sky-rocket my debt....Thanx for Info....

[Hot Rod To Hell]

Fusion is actually made for painting plastics or rubber. Use the regular stuff for steel

[beatnik]

Cool post, I never even thought about using that method to smooth a black wall. I hate the raised lettering on my front runners.

I also had never heard of that product, If it comes in black I'd like to use it to cover up the raised white lettering on the inside of my rear tires.

[macs55]

I just made my tires into whitewalls today using this method. It works great. Just two coats of paint and voila whitewalls. Now I have 4" whitewalls. Very cool tech post you are the man. Thanks. With the wife not working and raising my son I don't have any money left over for tires, but now I'm rollin in style. I tried the portawalls, they are crap. Now they decorate my garage. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[burger]

Beatnik,

It only comes in a gloss black that would be unsuitable for tire coloring.


Ed

[franzfrucket1]

Thats freaking awesome...maybe I should do that to my 2000 chevy Silverado! ha ha ha wouldnt that be badass...But seriously thats a great alternitive to buying new WWW


Owen

[so-cheap]

Good tech post. The paint sounds like the key.

But, even I won't paint my tires. I would rather run Bias.

And wh not just have them CUT.

[Fat ASS Whitewalls]

Just a quick note. Mac55 PMed me and said his whitewalls cracked when he had them mounted. He had them mounted by a tire machine, I do my own tires by hand. The tire machine stretches the shit out of them. If you are going to have them mounted at a tire store, try mounting them before you spray the sidewall. Then just let the air out, spray them, and air them back up. Dean

[Fat ASS Whitewalls]

[ QUOTE ]
Good tech post. The paint sounds like the key.

But, even I won't paint my tires. I would rather run Bias.

And wh not just have them CUT.

[/ QUOTE ] You can only cut tires with white rubber already in them, such as the small whitewalls, or raised white letters. Then you are restricted to about 2" of white rubber. If you cut blackwalls you still have to paint them to get the whitewall. Plus it costs money. This costs the price of a can of paint, some sand paper, and some time. You can do Bias ply tires too. Dean

[Hot Rod To Hell]

Hey Beatnik... I have a set of M/T ET streets on my car, and I didn't want those big 'ole white leters hangin out, so I just fogged a couple of light coats of KRYLON Semi Flat Black over 'em and you can't tell they were ever white! I didn't even clean 'em first, and they lasted this whole last season and still look good!

[mybeatupford]

yeah not thats something i'm gonna try

[Broman]

My old man says that he did this back in the day - but it sucked because the paint was shit back then.


Hey this quote hasn't been tossed out in quite a while:

..."just like the 50's, Bro."


Damn it's been so long I am not sure that's how it goes??? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[burndup]

Ok, I just smoked a big ol rock of crack, but here goes...

for the prep, will that "wax and grease remover" FOOK up the road surface of a motorcycle tire??? just the back one...

Thanks,
J

[Fat ASS Whitewalls]

Maybe I'm on crack, but I don't know what you mean? Wax and grease remover won't hurt the rubber. Here's an update on my tires. I drove my truck all winter long, through snow, salt, and rain. The front whitewalls have some small scuffs in them, nothing bad. The rears have the age cracks from the used tires, but still look good. They even survived the high pressure car wash. I'll probably respray them pretty soon. If I was still in Calif. with the great weather, I wouldn't have to do anything to them. Dean

[Munson]

To get me by until I had my other wheels and tires mounted and cut, I used this very post thanks to FatAssWW and they look good!!
8 out of 10 people don;t even pay that much attention or comment!
Thanks
j

[burndup]

BITCHIN junk hauler!

[Gordon H]

I purchased 4 225-70-15s from Coker, turns out that one of them was 215-70-15, I tried to have a new one swapped out, but it was gonna cost almost as much as a new one to send back. I will never deal with Coker again. All they want is your money. I'm a very dissatisfied customer. Just wanted to let everyone know before they bought from Coker.

[MercMan1951]

I purchased 4 225-70-15s from Coker, turns out that one of them was 215-70-15, I tried to have a new one swapped out, but it was gonna cost almost as much as a new one to send back. I will never deal with Coker again. All they want is your money. I'm a very dissatisfied customer. Just wanted to let everyone know before they bought from Coker.

You really need to poke around here a bit more before resurrecting an ancient thread that has nothing to do with Coker and then badmouth them. Not only are there representatives from Coker on this board, but they go out of their way to help resolve issues for us HAMBers. Plus, they are Alliance vendors...if you have a beef with them, why not contact them and try to make it right?

[53olds]

sweet idea!

[Mattilac]

Now that I've read threads for both grinding whitewalls and painting them, I wonder which is better? :confused:

[alfredfromchicago]

. Wow, I was wondering about the fusion paint... I used flat white krylon and was happy with my results. The question is, unless you have huge chunks of paint falling off, how close do you really have to look???
And if you have to look that close, just look into your wallet a little deeper, and watch your money go bye-bye.....I'm happy with my $10 spray on wide white michelins....

[RichG]

I purchased 4 225-70-15s from Coker, turns out that one of them was 215-70-15, I tried to have a new one swapped out, but it was gonna cost almost as much as a new one to send back. I will never deal with Coker again. All they want is your money. I'm a very dissatisfied customer. Just wanted to let everyone know before they bought from Coker.

...show up, bitch about a vendor, then disappear...

This is the kinda tech article that I like, the cheap ass but safe method of getting by...:D

[Dan Hay]

Cool tech, I'm glad these old threads get resurrected once in a while.

[Hot Rod Michelle]

Hey, that sounds like a really practical way of getting affordable whitewalls. Great post.

[Jess H]

Gordon H,

If you ordered 225/70R15 and we sent a 215/70R15 then we screwed up. Just give us a call (or PM me) and we'll fix it on our dime.

Thanks,

Jess

Jess Hoodenpyle
Sales and Customer Service Manager
Coker Tire
1-800-251-6336
www.Coker.com

[HOTRODPRIMER]

I purchased 4 225-70-15s from Coker, turns out that one of them was 215-70-15, I tried to have a new one swapped out, but it was gonna cost almost as much as a new one to send back. I will never deal with Coker again. All they want is your money. I'm a very dissatisfied customer. Just wanted to let everyone know before they bought from Coker.

This thread has nothing to do with Coker tires but since you brought it up,,

It's idiots like this that give southerners a bad name:mad:,,,Coker will go out of their way to solve problems,,,I have delt with Coker several times and will again in the very near future,,,they are a Alliance Vender here on the HAMB.

All you have to do is call Jess and he will take care of the problem and the call won't cost you a dime.

Let us know how it turns out,,if you don't I'm sure Jess will! HRP

Jess Hoodenpyle
Sales and Customer Service Manager
Coker Tire
1-800-251-6336
www.Coker.com (http://www.coker.com/) <!-- / message -->

[RichG]

I purchased 4 225-70-15s from Coker, turns out that one of them was 215-70-15, I tried to have a new one swapped out, but it was gonna cost almost as much as a new one to send back. I will never deal with Coker again. All they want is your money. I'm a very dissatisfied customer. Just wanted to let everyone know before they bought from Coker.

Gordon H,

If you ordered 225/70R15 and we sent a 215/70R15 then we screwed up. Just give us a call (or PM me) and we'll fix it on our dime.

Thanks,

Jess

Jess Hoodenpyle
Sales and Customer Service Manager
Coker Tire
1-800-251-6336
www.Coker.com (http://www.Coker.com)

Gosh, all solved in less than a day, and on the internet no less. Gordon H, you are full of shit sir. A regular stinker, and quite possibly a troll. If I had enough money I would buy my tires from Coker, but because I do not, I will make cheap-o whitewalls until that day arrives.

Too bad there isn't an internet troll filter...:rolleyes:

Oh, and if anyone gets confused later on, this was your FIRST post on the Hamb. Good day.

[garvinzoom]

Gordon H,

If you ordered 225/70R15 and we sent a 215/70R15 then we screwed up. Just give us a call (or PM me) and we'll fix it on our dime.

Thanks,

Jess

Jess Hoodenpyle
Sales and Customer Service Manager
Coker Tire
1-800-251-6336
www.Coker.com (http://www.Coker.com)


Thank you for posting!

[crankcaser]

Man, with this here recession on I like this idea! Going to the store right now!
Thanks!

[Cosmo49]

[ QUOTE ]
I REALLY REALLY wanna see a closeup of the finished product after it has been on the road 6-8 months and not refreshed!


[/ QUOTE ]Here's pictures of my tires on the S10. I drive this thing everyday. It's been in the snow, and the rain. I just took these pictures today, and the truck hasn't been washed for about two weeks. The whitewalls are a little over 6 months old. I haven't touched them up. The rear tire has sidewall cracks from age. They were in the tire before I put the whitewall on it. The cracks are not from the paint cracking. The front tires don't have the cracks. From 2 feet away you can't see them. New tires shouldn't have the cracks. These tires are about 5 years old, and sat outside on my 66 Caprice wagon. Dean (rear tire closeup)

I may be tripping but that is exactly what my Dad's whitewalls looked like when they aged. This is one beautiful revelation.

[crankcaser]

Works great! Just finished and it only cost me like $30 and about 5 hours.

[johnboy13]

Works great! Just finished and it only cost me like $30 and about 5 hours.


WOW! :eek: I am really digging your car. It looks great!

[Gordon H]

Jess at Coker solved the problem I had with the tire, thanks again to Jess.

[Gordon H]

Thanks MercMan1951 for the advice. If I had talked to Jess months ago, then I would had no problem at all.

[Gordon H]

Hotrodprimer, thanks for your feedback, Jess took care of me.

[FLAT BLACK 42]

Any one else try this tip?

[Rig of Mortis]

Any one else try this tip?

Yes, I tried this recently on my shop truck but I decided to use the Krylon Fusion "Bone White" satin finish to try a more antique look as I felt the bright white would be too intense for my personal taste.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/83BJ60/1974_F250.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/83BJ60/1974_F250-2.jpg

[51chevcoupe]

looks good!

[custom_lettering]

I decided to use the Krylon Fusion "Bone White" satin finish to try a more antique look as I felt the bright white would be too intense for my personal taste.



i thought the same thing but wasn't sure how the finished product would look. now that i see it i think it looks great...a nice vintage look.

[GothboY]

Krylon Fusion eh? Too bad I didnt know that when I tried it. Im one of those giant retards who also tried spray painting white walls on my tires. However Im a giant retard because I used the wrong paint. Ive made pinner whites into black walls before with rustoleum satin black, and it worked killer for many years, but the whitee rubber must be just the right composition for paint. So when I used rustoleum satin white on my tires it looked awesome! Then i drove it to a show, next day. I checked when I got there and it was flaking off. (My wife teases me to this day about getting fake white wall in my eye, lol) lucky for me with it all flaking off and enough staying nice in the right spots, it just looked like i had some really jacked up dirty ol white walls (from a few feet away) up close they looked like crap. Thats ok though cause every body was looking at the coffin hanging out of my hearse and not the tires anyway, lol. These days I just get out the trusty ol grinder. Perhaos I'll use the "fusion" on the ground whites for a tune up! Cool idea! -GothY-

[The_Monster]

damn, that bone white looks sweeeeeeeeet! didnt even know they had that color! Good lookin solid truck too! :)

[robt500]

Cool idea funny thing I think the smooth black wall is cool as well. Got to love the poor man stuff.

Cool post, I never even thought about using that method to smooth a black wall. I hate the raised lettering on my front runners.

Neat old thread and as a few others mentioned over 5 years ago now the 'smooth black wall tech' part is great. Krylon Fusion for plastic and rubber? Very useful info.

[59f100fan]

man It didn't work well for me mine just turned brownish gray on brand new tires .....I cleaned with degreaser and everything I even recoated and still turns brown...they looked really good for a little while though......I am just going to get the real thing when my pockets fatten up a little.

[FestersGarage]

This is a great thread. im never buying fat whites again!

[Cosmo49]

Yes, I tried this recently on my shop truck but I decided to use the Krylon Fusion "Bone White" satin finish to try a more antique look as I felt the bright white would be too intense for my personal taste.


Good thinking slightly outside the box man, looks really good.