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autocol
01-19-2004, 08:54 AM
okay, here’s my VERY simple post on working with photoshop. i know hatch started another one but i’m keeping it REALLY simple, because that’s all 90% of the people on this board can handle... no offense to hatch or monster (or 90% of the people on this board!) intended.

please note that this tutorial of sorts deals only with PHOTOSHOP. yes, it’s expensive, no i didn’t pay for mine, and nor did 90% of the worlds users. i don’t make any money off it, so i don’t feel bad. this post is not intended to be a debate about the relative criminality of stealing intellectual property as opposed to actual stuff.

bugger me, can i start already!?

this tutorial will cover, very simply, lowering a car in photoshop. it will introduce you to some of the simple, but often used tools in the package.

okay, in figure one (jeez, i’m sounding like someone from street rodder!), i’ve just loaded in an image. i’ve circled two important areas of the program. in the blue area, we have the tools that we’ll use commonly to manipulate the image. we can select colours here, along with tools like move, zoom, paintbrush, eraser, etc... hover over the top of any tool for a second and you’ll get a “tooltip”, telling you what it is, and its shortcut. cool?

edit: image linking should now be working... i got the guy whose site i link off (ltdesign) to allow the HAMb to steal bandwidth... thanks luke

http://www.ltdesign.org/uncletoff/HAMB/screen1.jpg






next up, we have to lower the car. to do that, we need to cut out the car itself, put it on a new layer, and slide that layer down until it looks right. so, in figure two, i’ve started the lasso tool, circled in red. note that i have by far the easiest time using the POLYGONAL lasso tool. if yours isn’t set to this by default, click and HOLD on the lasso tool button, and you will see a “flyout”... as you can see this tool has three options... click the polygonal one.

next, you need to trace the area you want to cut out. you use the tool by click-click-clicking, it will draw straight lines in between. around corners, make your clicks close! theres a blue arrow pointing at my line as i click it. i’m currently going up round the rear wheel arch...

http://www.ltdesign.org/uncletoff/HAMB/screen2.jpg






one thing you’ll need to do to get your images looking good is zoom WAY in, to see right up close what you’re selecting. use the zoom tool, bottom right hand corner of the toolbar i circled in blue at the start. then, once your zoomed right up, you can move around mid-lasso-command by holding down spacebar, which brings up a “panning” hand. give it a try, you’ll get it...

in this third image i’ve gone right the way along the bottom of the car. now, to close off my lasso area, i needed to click once at each of the red dots, OUTSIDE of the image... photoshop allows you to do that. finally, a double click at the blue dot “closes” the lasso, and selects the area enclosed.

http://www.ltdesign.org/uncletoff/HAMB/screen3.jpg





now, we need to copy the selected area, and paste it onto a new layer. too easy. go to the edit menu (blue arrow) and select copy, then edit menu again, and select paste. p-shop automatically adds a new layer with the selected area on it when you paste. you can see it’s been created where the red arrow indicates.

(geeks will be happy to note that all windows shortcuts like CTRL+C and CTRL+V work a charm in p-shop... non-geeks can reserve memory for remembering good things, like the firing order of nailheads...)

http://www.ltdesign.org/uncletoff/HAMB/screen4.jpg






now, the ACTIVE layer (ie, the one that will be affected when you start drawing everywhere!) is lit up in blue in the layer list. always check you’ve got the right layer active or you’ll fuck yourself completely. you can just select the appropriate layer by clicking where i’ve drawn a blue dot in the next figure.

once you’re sure you’ve got the top layer (the one with ONLY the car, not the wheels, n it), select the MOVE tool (circled in red), grab the car and DUMP THE BITCH! or just drag down slightly... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

check it out mum! i lowered my car!!

http://www.ltdesign.org/uncletoff/HAMB/screen5.jpg




that pretty much endeth the lesson, but i will add a couple more things that you should do EVERY TIME you want to post to the HAMB. the first is setting the image size.

go to the image menu, and down to image size (highlighted in the figure below). it brings up a dialogue (also shown). the top half of the dialogue box shows you how big your image is in PIXELS. now just to give you newbies an idea (and don’t any of you smart arses DARE tell me that not everyone uses these sizes!) your screen is 1024 pixels wide by 768 pixels tall. if you post an image that is 2000 pixels square, not only would ryans server reject it, but it wouldn’t fit on the screen!

all the images in this post are 512 x 384, to give you an idea. i suggest only using widths between 300 and 600. a good balance between resolution and speed.

http://www.ltdesign.org/uncletoff/HAMB/screen8.jpg






now, there’s ANOTHER, much COOLER way to save ryan’s space: save for web. save for web (henceforth: SFW) is the coolest fucking thing since sliced bread, and if you take ANYTHING away from this total waste of time i’m calling a tutorial, take this...

go to the file menu, save for web (highlighted in the image below).

http://www.ltdesign.org/uncletoff/HAMB/screen6.jpg





it brings up the following dialogue. basically what this command does is COMPRESS the image, in terms of FILE SIZE, without making it any smaller in DIMENSIONS, for the viewer... cool, eh? (no, i am not canadian, though i did live there for a while...) the more you compress, the blurrier the image gets, so you’re shooting for a happy medium. luckily, there’s a preview!

in the top of the SFW dialogue, click on the “2-UP” tab. the left hand pane shows your original image, the right hand pane shows the compressed equivalent. where my red arrow is pointing, make sure the top one says “JPEG” (you’ll want this in 99% of cases), and experiment with the setting in the bottom one. generally, you can compress down to “medium” level without the viewer noticing three fifths of fuck-all difference, and often you can get to “low”... i’ve zoomed in on the effect it has on file size... the original is 900 kilobytes. the compressed version is 30. and i can tell you now, the difference to the viewer is basically nil. save ryan a dollar. use save for web.

http://www.ltdesign.org/uncletoff/HAMB/screen7.jpg


next, i might do one with bigger wheels, or maybe grabbing wheels from another image... requests are taken, but bare in mind i’m leaving the complex stuff to hatch and monster, this is supposed to be SIMPLE, i want everyone to have a crack at it...

50Fraud
01-19-2004, 10:57 AM
This is very cool, thanks. Unfortunately when I click on any of your links, I get
FORBIDDEN You don't have permisson to access uncletoff... on this server.
Now what?

oldandkrusty
01-19-2004, 11:43 AM
Great post, I think. I get the same response when clicking on the sites "Forbidden". What's up?

Zeke
01-19-2004, 01:19 PM
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unfortunately, my image linking isn't working so you'll have to click on these hyperlinks for now... i'll edit when i've fixed the permissions...

[/ QUOTE ]

We're not reading throughly are we http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

autocol
01-20-2004, 03:45 AM
and a BTTT now that you can actually SEE my post!

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Mai Ki-Ki
01-20-2004, 04:12 AM
I use pretty simple shit like this most of the time...

Can change ....this.

Mai Ki-Ki
01-20-2004, 04:12 AM
to this...with a bit of airbrush tool. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

stolenmojo
01-20-2004, 09:10 AM
autocol, i've got photoshop CS latest and greatest, and i have run into some problems. when i play with a photo, i do it very similarly to your tutorial, which i still found helpful thanks. however, i seem to only be able to make 3 new layers by selecting and copy/paste method. for instance, i lowered a pic of my 53 truck on one layer, chopped it but the pic is a 3/4 front view so you have to move the rear cab post and the opposite front a pillar around to complete the roof. i selcted the roof as a whole, lowered it down as 1 layer keeping the pass side a pillar lined up. selected the pass side cab corner and slid it out to smooth the roof line. now when i go to the drive side a pillar i select it, but it won't creat a new layer, it says selection is empty yet i have a closed out selection in the photo? have you run into this before?

brandon

ESnacky6
01-20-2004, 03:45 PM
Thanks alot for the photoshop tips..!!!

Now how do you change the color of a car..??
hahaha..!!!

autocol
01-21-2004, 05:05 AM
brandon... when you're planning on cutting some information from a layer, you have to have that layer activated. when you've got a layer active that is empty in your selection area, you'll get the error you describe. once you've lowered your cab, go down to the list of layer, activate the bottom one again (the original shot), hide everything above it so you can see what you're doing, THEN select the area you need, and copy-paste it...

snacky: more tutorials coming...

stolenmojo
01-21-2004, 07:49 AM
damn - i knew i was an idiot and you just proved it. i'll give that a shot.

thanks

porknbeaner
01-21-2004, 08:57 AM
Auto,
you hoodlum, you're not really using a pirated photoshop, you're just saying that so you can fit in.
No on to the buggering part... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Great tutorial, all I know about photoshop is what I have figured out from playing with it. Anything I can glean from someone else is a plus for me. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Thanks,
The PknBner http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

hatch
01-21-2004, 09:04 AM
I agree with autocol....simple is good. To keep it really simple, I still suggest learning the clone tool first...it can be used in so many different applications. Practice till you master that tool...then go on to learning layers. I found the layers somewhat confusing at first. Thanks for the tips!!!