TLC Cobra program

[disastron13]

Muntz Jet restyled by Audi engineers.
Strip mining the past for corporate prestige is one thing...but when they screw it up...

[Mike Paul]

I was dissapointed. And still waiting to see some "rides" not computer generated wannabes!IMHO

[smittyshotrods]

If your talking about the show "Rides" I thought it was a good show. True they did restyle the Cobra but they had to create something new and fitting for the time. I would have done some things different as well as many others probably would have to but Carroll Shelby gave his stamp of approval so thats all that really matters in my book. It was really cool to see him behind the wheel doing what he loves to do!

[shoebox72]

Was it just me or did Jason Priestly speak each word like it was an entire sentence? Anyway. I. Think. This. Episode. Sucked. Maybe. It. Will. Get. Better.

Billy

[Dooley]

I liked it...it's gotta be tought to try to re do an icon like the original cobra. Anything they would have done would be open to ridicule from the folks who really dig the first one. And most if not all of us all do.

Would I buy it? Dunno but it peels out pretty good.

Could be worse we all could have watched Will and Grace.

[plan9]

i found a fix to all the suckass tv shows out there... got rid of the TV and cable. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Greazer]

For all the crap we give Monster Garage, American Chopper and Rides, they are still far better than anything else on.

Take those three away and what have you got? Iron Chef? American F'n Idol?
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Anyway, next week's "Rides" episode looks pretty good.

[daign]

You guys are so traditional your TVs are black n white. I enjoyed having something to watch. The new cobra has a KILLER exhaust note and it was nice to see a concept car doing donuts the way they should. Are you sure we saw the same show or are you just trying to 'fit in' by being a hater?

Here's a link for those that missed it. (http://www.blueovalnews.com/2004/videos/naias.fordshelbycobra.WMV)

-Dane

[Tony]

I watched it,and really didn't think it was that bad.
The car, although not totally my 'style' was wild. I would much rather have an ole 427..but i can't afford either so it dosn't matter.
Seeing the smile on Carrol Shelby's face was great!!
He's 81, and had the opportunity to see a car he originally designed, be re-born in a sence.. Way cool to me.

As far as Jason Priestly talking funny. I mentioned here i was suprised he was even narrating the show..he was in a really bad racing accident, and wasn't even able to talk.
Pretty good recovery i'd say..

Not a total waste for me..I can't see myself going out of my way to watch it, but if i'm here and it's on, ok.
but then again, thats just me and i aint right anyway. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Rat..

[choprods]

I watched tonites episode- And I enjoyed it. I think they might be headed in the right direction. It was hypeless- in my opinion,WHICH IS GOOD.I was expecting less so all in all I would watch it again- next time its Troy- I know him and like him so I'll be there......

[roadstar]

I really enjoyed it for what it was. A good car show about the building of a SKILLION dollor concept/show/prototype.

Alot of that type of work is done here in town and is very top secret. So just seeing the place they were doing all the different phases of the build I found very interesting.

And then at the end to see Carol Shelby himself hammering on the car and doing dougnuts was awsome.

The lack of fake drama was refreshing too. I'm sure the show will have more to offer each of us in the future episodes.

[shoebox72]

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Are you sure we saw the same show or are you just trying to 'fit in' by being a hater?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, we did watch the same show.
No, I'm not a hater. I was giving my opinion of the episode.
Furthermore, if I thought I had to "Fit in" I'd wait to hear what you had to say & just agree with you so everyone will like me. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Billy

[scarylarry]

Wow, mostly positive about a car show on TV, here...on the HAMB...who'd a thunk it? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[Nick32vic]

I loved the show. It was nicely put together. Not alot of bullcrap thats wastes time. And i think it showed some nice key parts of the build.

They didnt try have a star of the show or a focus point other than the car. The show was very straight forward.

Lastly, the car was awesome, the sound of it driving was like Angels making beutifull music for my listening pleasure.

Nick

P.S.
If you want to see a bad show, TRY to catch Street Rodder TV on ESPN on one of its crazy times. Then you will know what a horrible television program is.

[skipstitch]

I liked that it showed...just like Hot Rods... sometimes you gotta grind stuff to make it fit. AND even with the best computer equiptment it takes two or three trials to get it right. Hell, if you could look past the guys in ties...it looked like a bunch of HOT RODDERS tryin' to get some new multi-carb set up to run a little leaner....my 2 cents.... Can't wait till the next show.

[Dan]

At least I was running on the treadmill while I wathced it, so I was kinda a captive audience. I didn't think it was too bad, I wish they coulda showed more of the actual fabrication but I don't think the general viewing public would enjoy that part of it. When I first saw the car I didn't really like it but the more I looked at it the more I started to recognize similarities to the original Cobras I started to appreciate it alittle more. The coolest part was definately watching Shelby do brodies. I'll probably watch it again.

[Tim]

thought it was great when carrol was talking about taking it to the drift comp. lol nice nervouse laughter from the suites lol

[Nick32vic]

[ QUOTE ]
When I first saw the car I didn't really like it but the more I looked at it the more I started to recognize similarities to the original Cobras I started to appreciate it alittle more.

[/ QUOTE ] Dan, i feel the same way.

Skipstitch, I think it is cool that the guy had the cut off some threads to get the hinges or hood to go on. And i also liked that they mentioned the guys staying there till 630 to get it runnin. Its not like they just bolted it together, they had to do plenty of work.

[DoubleClutch]

Hope I can do doughnuts in something cool when I'm 81!

[Unkl Ian]

I thought the show was well done,some of the behind the scenes stuff was interesting.
The actual car wasn't exactly my speed,
but there will be a wide variety of subjects covered in other episodes.



I did NOT miss the temper tantrums and yelling that other shows seem to think should be manditory.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Best part was seeing Caroll Shelby doing donuts in the concept car..i bet the build team were shitting their pants during that shot...:) i enjoyed it..nuthin else on

[Fraz]

Did not care for the body restyling, but that engine note.........!!!!!

Also dug the part where C.S. was doin donuts in the "old" Cobra and then again in the "new" Cobra.

[old beet]

I'm a Ford guy.....I liked it........OLDBEET

[296 V8]

Saw just the last half. liked it. Id drive the piss out of that thing then put it on greed bay http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif ya turn it into lots of hot rod and early ford parts http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Revhead]

ha! yeah I just saw that "thing". How did they pull off the modern GT40 so well and screw up the cobra so bad?

[disastron13]

I dug the show and the evident enthusiasm of the crew...but the styling...
The GT40 was drawn by a human being on a drafting table. A human hand did not generate even one curve of the new Cobra, it was a keyboard job.
Just like the Victory motor cycle, it was a CAD job. The human touch that all Hambers lose sleep over is entirely missing from the body design.
Ask any striper on the board- they can probably define the new Cobras design failure a lot better than me.
Foiled?

[Petejoe]

Great to see Carrol. Didn't like the restyle.Expected more after last years Mustang.. Loved the design work and R&D scenes. The engine was awesome. The cost of that new (daisy) went up 2 Million dollars when Carrol signed the dash. The very best part was to watch the old Cobras, particularly the original frst 1962 model come out of the trailer. The silver (Chrome?) one is definitely the best looking car that was on the show. Looking forward to more episodes.

[J Man]

The car was badass, the show suckedass.

[TomH]

The best part..... NO FAKE DRAMA!!!!! But was it realy C. S. doing the donuts or a double?? Never show him up close during that part.

[CruZer]

I liked the show. The best part? No axxxholes went off on each other and stomped out of the room in a temper tantrum.There was no big mouth who always had to have the final say.
It was good to see a show where people actually enjoyed working together.
Carroll was awesome!!!! I hope I can be that cool at 81....Oh well,I never was,so I guess that's out...
But I didn't like the re-style. Too boxy.

[hudson_hawk]

at least it didnt have "freebies"

[Bugman]

I missed the show, no cable and all. But watching that clip, I think that car is way cooler than the Shelby Series 1 car.

Think about it like this. If they had continued to produce Cobra's, and they updated them every 3-5 years like all cars, this years model would probably look alot like the one they designed.

If Chevy has quit making Corvettes in 1968, then some designer brought out a concept car that looked like the C5, it would never be looked at as a "real" corvette, but because of it's continuous production it is. Same as the new beetle, and new thunderbird. Modern cars with some styling ques from the origional. My .02

-Bugman Jeff

[Unkl Ian]

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The silver (Chrome?) one is definitely the best looking car that was on the show.

[/ QUOTE ]

Polished Aluminum.The 427 Cobra bodies were all hand shaped Aluminum.
I would have been impressed if they had done the new Cobra in bare Aluminum.

Much faster,and cheaper,to do make the body in Fiberglas and Carbonfiber.
And judging from the molds they made,they don't plan on making many more.

They did do a good job styling the the newest Mustang.
Without seening them side by side,aside from the tires,
I would have trouble telling the difference between the new GT40 and the old..

I think there are too many conterporary influences in the new Cobra,
it looked better with the heaedlights removed,
and the lower corners of the grill opening didn't work visually,
the tail lights were painfully high tech.
The front looked too much like the new Nissan sportscar,whatever it's called.
The dash was horrible,the only way to make it worse would be to use digital gauges.

And I could not believe they used a cheap sticker to put the Shelby name on the side.

But the show was decent,even if the car was ugly.

[4t64rd]

Is it just me?

When you put round headlights (or tailights) in a car, shouldn't the hole they go into be round?

[jdubbya]

I thought the same thing about the headlights, why not use a style like that of the new beetle, or mercedes? Just my 2 cents - Joe

[Petejoe]

http://fp.images.autos.msn.com/merismus/as/autoshow2004/photos/l_4Ford_Shelby_Cobra_Unveil.jpg

[Rolf]

Looks like thumbs up for the most part from you critichal HAMBers http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I liked it. The gearhead that I am, that exhaust note was good for my soul...and yes, seeing ol' Shelby doing donuts was fun, and as noted by several of you guys: no YELLING!!

[Plowboy]

I enjoyed the show, although I didn't really like the end product. It was a welcome change in programming for me 'cause I had been on the couch for 2 days only to get up every 10 minutes to puke or shit.

It would be cool to have a job like that building weird stuff for the factory.

I sat trying to pick out the styling "cues" as well. Unfortunately, all the new cars look the same to me. Homagenized egg shapes with only "styling cues" and name badges to tell them apart.

I look forward to the next one with Troy. It will be neat to see an Illinois boy done Good.

For those that like to bitch, it was better than most of the other crap out there, go back to watching your "head of the class" reruns and beating your meat. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Elrod]

Are you kidding??? That car looks amazing!! I love it. Actually, the morning before the show even aired, I sent a picture of that new cobra to my wife and both of us gave it a big "WOW!" Then they "reveal" what the new car is on TLC. It was great! Definately a show that kept my interest through out the entire build.

Do you think you could re-program a car's ECU when the computer program is written in Japanese?!?!?!

Carol doing doughnuts was awesome! I agree with the statement that the build team must have been shitting their pants when he hammered it!

[AnimalAin]

Engineers build stuff. With the possible exception of a few geniuses, they also bring their strengths to the team. Some are idea guys, some are good with their hands, some work out details, and others specialize in refining systems designed by others. All are problem solvers. The show let us see some of that.

By the way, from my experience, it sounds not too much different than the way most hot rods get put together.

[D Picasso]

two things- that exhaust note at a quick idle sounds like tympani, which is cool, and second, that even in this day and age clay is still used for styling excercises. neat!

overall the car had an uncomfortable modular/Power-Ranger-y look to it, kinda....embalmed. there's no argument here that it goes and sounds like a bat outta Hell, though. plus, I'm with the opinion stated above that the GT40 is full-on snappy, but Disastron's right in his finding a bit of Muntz Jet in the Cobra.

on the other hand, didn't the Muntz Jet begin life as a vehicle with some blue blood in there somewhere...?

[fordiac]

I swear, even if the show was hosted by your guys own mothers, you would still hate it.

even if it was the only car related show on TV, ever.








I liked it alot, it had me looking at the clock at every commercial break, waiting for more.

Im excited to see the next one.

[daign]

Kind of OT but a pretty funny Caroll Shelby story:

I was at an upscale restuarant in the Los Angeles area at a business meeting. We pay the bill and walk out to get my car from valet. There is a 60's Aston Martin DB4 in front of the restaurant parked so everyone can see it. A group of guys is gathered around the car and look to be talking to the owner. Obviously a celebrity or someone with serious cash. Caroll Shelby himself walks out to the valet for his car and my coworker recognizes him and points him out. He walks past the group of guys and takes a look at the DB4 closer up. Upon further inspection looks at the group and asks "Which of you fellas own this boat anchor?" The shock on the guys face was priceless, and Shelby got a real kick out of it. My car pulled up and I was dying of laughter the entire drive back to work. What a character that guy is...

-Dane

[Leon]

I liked it. No throwing wrenches, no bitching, just a story about a car. Period. I'll be watching next week. (unless they bring Boyd in to slam a few doors) http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[clint b]

I saw the show and I can only hope that it was C.S. that was doing the donuts in the new Cobra. It definetly was him in his car, but I'm not so sure that the engineers would be that confident letting an 81 year old, (even though he IS C.S.) drive their car. Cool to see him though. Next weeks show looks better than the 1st.

[Elrod]

If you were one of the top Ford engineers building a car that you hope emulates Carol Shelby's classic cobra, as well as gets his stamp of approval, would you tell him he can't do donuts?

um...no.

[UNCLECHET]

I've always been in love with Cobras for as long as I can remember. A real one is my dream car. Not a kit, a real one. Probably not gonna happen. However, I liked their 2004-5 version. Probably won't be able to afford the new one either. But how fun would it be to work on a project like that? I liked the show.

[kustomd]

I kind of liked the show it was more interesting than most of the stuff that was on. I used to watch the speed channel but is all a bunch of shitty ass nascar crap and formula 1 racing. What ever happened to drag racing? Thats the whole reason I got the damn channel.

Through the whole show I was wondering how many of those guys that were on the tv were just there because the camera was there? How many I wonder were the real workers and builders. Instead of just talking heads. I have several in the company I work for now that are just pricks who brown nosed enough to get in the missionary position for the main boss. One thing I do miss about the mechanic bizz I didn't have pricks like this giving me crap when they don't do anything themselfs but suck ass.

[El Caballo]

[ QUOTE ]
I have several in the company I work for now that are just pricks who brown nosed enough to get in the missionary position for the main boss. One thing I do miss about the mechanic bizz I didn't have pricks like this giving me crap when they don't do anything themselfs but suck ass.


[/ QUOTE ]

Makes you want to frag them...

I slept through the show, worked too hard I guess...

[Unkl Ian]

[ QUOTE ]
How many I wonder were the real workers and builders.

[/ QUOTE ] Oh,you mean the guys working 14+ hours a day,7 days a week,to meet some stupid deadline.

[Scott B]

All these years and Carroll still seems pissed that the Chevy guys wouldn't give him a small block...pretty funny...

[warbird]

Thought it started out kinda lame and they can loose the crappy soundtrack anytime.
But, seeing CSX2000 moving under its own power, and Shelby doing donuts in "Daisy": Priceless! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif