OT - TLC comes after the HAMB

[Ryan]

We've been approached by TLC and asked if we would like to be apart of their new "Rides" show next season. Here is my response:

"I appreciate the offer and think the show is going great places, but to be honest with you I don't think the HAMB or my personal daily activities would be good content for a family oriented network. We don't build theme cars and we don't participate in highly commercial events or promotions. Put shortly and please excuse me for my language, but we are fucking hoodlums - not clean room marketers. I've enclosed the last available copy of our 2004 calendar in hopes that you see this note as an honored declination and not an aggressive retort."

I'm not sure how they found out about us or if the offer was even real, but I thought I would inform the masses as you guys are the folks that earned the offer. I hope my reply was satisfactory... I would really actually love to do it if I had FINAL edit decisions (Yeah, right!), but after all the shit I've talked about JJ, I didn't think it was possible...

[El Caballo]

Damn, I was hoping they'd air us screaming at each other and meeting impossible deadlines for our posts.... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[zman]

That is some funny shit. I for one would have liked to see how they were gonna make this group family friendly. That would have been worth the price of admission. Hell you should have sent Germ as the official represenative. At least it would have been funny.

[Action Girl]

Did you see Old School?

I can totally see the Vince Vaughn character watching that episode of Rides yelling "earmuffs!" to his kid...

Perfect reponse.

Stacey

[DrJ]

WTF!!!!
Ryan have you gone mad?
We ARE family friendly!

Hatfield Family, McCoy Family, Dalton Family, Addams Family, Osbourne Family, Munster's Family, Manson Family... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[saltflataddict]

well stated Ryan..

[quickrod]

zman said it,send germ as host,that woulda brought better ratings than the two dicks on discovery channel....good call ryan,don't think the general public would understand anyhow......hell,i'm still tryin to figure it out http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Roothawg]

Interesting........

[Django]

It was inevitable that someone come knocking at the door. Good decision. The world is not ready for flat black soccer mom minivans with HAMB stickers over the West Coast Choppers sticker in the back window. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I hope they treat that calendar with the respect it deserves! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[2tall2beahotrodder]

It would be kinda cool to air HAMB. but your right on the editing selection....

[hotrodladycrusr]

The amount of non-traditional hot rod viewers that would invade here would be astronomical. Good call Ryan.

[ray]

right choice ryan. ain't none of us with brains trying to be celebrities. but then, i don't tell "everybody" about the hamb, only those that will get it.


oh, and glad to see you are talking about the tv TLC, i thought maybe "left eye" Lopez was stalking you or something! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Johnny Ace]

haha....I told Monster Garage what you told TLC....FIRST!
And I didn't even give them a parting gift.....Ryan,your skateboard can't possibly have too much dust on it,judging by your clever bon mot to TLC.....

[NealinCA]

[ QUOTE ]
The amount of non-traditional hot rod viewers that would invade here would be astronomical. Good call Ryan.

[/ QUOTE ]

My thoughts exactly. Can you imagine?

Neal

[buzzard]

You mean I've missed my chance to type on T.V.?

[G V Gordon]

Good call Ryan. I could see that being the begining of the end for the HAMB. Kind of like the guy who turns his hobby into a business and finds out that, now it's is no longer fun, just work.

[shoebox72]

Now if it were to be a show about real world dysfunctional hot rod & custom builders thats different.

TLC would never portray the HAMB for what we really are. So much for "life unscripted"

Good call Ryan.

Billy

[skipstitch]

WHAT!!!! SAY IT ISN'T SOOOOO!!! YOU SAID NO!?! Now I'll never be able to go the Gadzook's store in the mall and buy my West Coast Von Choppers HAMB t-shirt!!! ARGH! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Twisted Okie]

That was a great, well thought out response. Thats why you get the big bucks !!

[Harrison]

I believe Ryan's response, while being blunt and to the point, was very tactful and appreciative. That's a tough combination. I am impressed.

I like our HAMB just the way it is. Pimping it to the masses would be disastrous. I have a lot of respect for Ryan for not "selling out".

Thanks, JH

[El Caballo]

Good point, we need to have new HAMB t-shirts again, I only have two and they are getting threadbare.

[jdubbya]

I'm with ya Ryan, the only way that I would allow them to do a show about the HAMB, is if Germ could host it, UNEDITED! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[SamIyam]

On one hand it would be cool if some of our cars could be on TV... but on the other hand... the fucking mass hysteria that would follow with every Tom Dick and Laquisha wanting to be a "RAT RODDER" would buckle us...

So, I think you handled it well... ya fucking hoodlum. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Sam.

[abe lugo]

I think it's too late for not wanting any non-trad and goldchainers to join the HAMB, Well the population here has almost doubles in a year, probably from the R&C article and other HAMBERS mentioning the site.
On another note, I think we have enough going on between all of us to do a HAMB Televsion Channel, not just a cameo on some episode

[repoguy]

Hoodlums?

Give me a break. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[CherryBlossom]

[ QUOTE ]


I like our HAMB just the way it is. Pimping it to the masses would be disastrous. I have a lot of respect for Ryan for not "selling out".




[/ QUOTE ]


Amen.

[raven]

Thanks Ryan for the well scripted and polite refusal to sell this thing out.
Well done.
r

[BARNETT]

Good call...Just think of the huge qauntities of chuckle-heads that woulda jumped in here! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

['Flyin' Dutchman']

Good job!

The HAMB would indeed get overwhelmed by cooks!

[roadstar]

Yeah fuck them guys http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif....the nerve of them wanting us to be part of ANOTHER show. Way to go Ryan, we need to hold out for "HAMB TV" http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Petejoe]

I'm not too crazy about spreading the
Gospel according to Ryan. The request is just another response from the masses who have again thought that traditional and the new word <font color="blue">(Retro)</font> are the next bandwagon to get on. These Love Train Groupies can just stand out and watch the real thing. If these people are truely interested.... We will see their intro with a real interest in spreading the news

[plan9]

[ QUOTE ]
Good call...Just think of the huge qauntities of chuckle-heads that woulda jumped in here! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

3 words... fucking_canon_foder http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

THE JOHNNY ACE/KALI VERA MOB &amp; EL DUCE GERM SHOULD HOST THE
SHOW!

[Smokin Joe]

Dunno, I have visions of flat black Hondas &amp; Neons with WWW's on steelies and HAMB stickers. No hood showing off their stuffed in V-8's cruising all over the country! What's wrong with that? Beats seeing all those Calvin pissing and Stereo stickers. Or 1/2 the pickups in the country running WCC decals. Give the kids an alternative to Jessie and the Japanese. (Sounds like a group!) http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Be pretty hard doing a garage scene tho. You'd have to cover up the trash can full of empties and a lot of the posters and wall art. Just wouldn't look right.

And of course, you couldn't actually let the HAMBer speak. You'd have to BLEEP the BLEEPing BLEEPer every time he BLEEPing opened his BLEEPing mouth. It would come off like OCC and that wouldn't be right.

Hell, tell 'em to show up at the "Bend in the road" &amp; we'll talk. Have 'em bring a couple cases of beer and something magnesium we can signal the space station with. We'll sing Cum-By-Ya with 'em. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[lownrusty]

Gosh it would be cool if all those Von Dutch Wearing celebs would join the hamb we could talk about high fashion!! No need for for them here!!!

[lucky_1974]

Weirdos would come out of the wood work and not the good kind http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[38Chevy4door]

Cool to be asked, cooler to say "no".

Good job, Ryan, and thanks!
Steve

[Deuce Rails]

[ QUOTE ]
"I appreciate the offer and think the show is going great places, but to be honest with you I don't think the HAMB or my personal daily activities would be good content for a family oriented network. We don't build theme cars and we don't participate in highly commercial events or promotions. Put shortly and please excuse me for my language, but we are fucking hoodlums - not clean room marketers. I've enclosed the last available copy of our 2004 calendar in hopes that you see this note as an honored declination and not an aggressive retort."

[/ QUOTE ]

Great response.

[fuel pump]

We don't need no stinking lame TV show http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif Right on chief http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[El Caballo]

kooks, the HAMB cook book is for cooks...

[Paul]

Thank you Ryan,

my faith in the universe has been restored.

[Elrod]

Someone at TLC got a free calendar?!?! Talk about lucky!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I think it's interesting that this thread serves a dual purpose.

1. Ryan was able to tell us that he turned down TLC

2. TLC will be looking at this board anyway to see who they can get, but will see this posting and that we are not interested in becoming another Von OCC Choppers trucker hat logo for 15 year olds to wear to the mall.

[tommy]

Shit!!!! I had visions of Rocky hollerin' at you and sayin'"you don't have a clue what it takes to build a car!" http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Someone could make a fortune making adapters to put the new fad 35 wires on Escalades!

Oh well http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[50mercfan]

allthough it would be nice to maybe turn some kids our direction, it's hard enough to get the right parts we need now. if the gold chainers start thinking this is cool, then parts would be impossible to get. after it aired this place would turn into another yahoo chat board.

[plan9]

ill go to TLC ... itll score me beverly hills GOTHABILLY chicks!

TLC, YOU LISTENING??? I CAN MAKE A PHAT OG RIDE OUT FUCKIN TIN CANS &amp; RUBBER BANDS!

[Elrusto]

[ QUOTE ]
Give the kids an alternative to Jessie and the Japanese.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree, but do we really want to be the alternative?
Little shits can be kinda' un-ruley at times.....................but then again so are we.

[kritz]

ok...maybe we have it all wrong....maybe TLC wanted to do a show about a group of people from all over the world who night after night sit infront of a glowing screen after putting in hard days at the office, shop, garage, and working on their cars, only to sit for hours offering help, opinions, guidance, jokes, and e-bay finds.
maybe they wanted an episode about the passion that the hamb embodies, not just cars and swearing.

YEAH RIGHT!!!

although it would be funny as hell to see some hambers causing a ruckus on national tv, the world is not ready for the likes of the hamb.

VIVA LA HAMB!!!!!!

[Just Gary]

At least we still have our dignity...
...unlike Orange County Choppers. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

You made the right call, Ryan. Thank you.

[old beet]

Tell um to watch COPS......OLDBEET

[kritz]

i just came up with the next hamb item...could even come as a free gift with the next years calendar purchase...

the "HAMB, too hot for TV" video!!! the things that ryan wouldn't let TLC show you...see the gay michigan bitches modeling hrlc's fur coats....see the rambler showdown at the hamb drags, see naked california men on motorcycles, and all the other mischief that ensues!!!

only $19.95

[Unkl Ian]

Give them SPANK's number. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif


Or maybe they will do a show on The Rude Boyz instead.

[JamesG]

Well done Ryan. Thank you for not selling us out.

[Radshit]

I concur......


Although, it would be nice to see Germ get his own reality show.........pure entertainment.... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[flt-blk]

I am proud to be a "Fucking Hoodlum", but this is the first
time I have ever been called that with Respect.

Glad you said no thanks.
check out my new signature
TZ

[scarliner]

Right on Ryan! You didnt sell your soul for the almighty dollar.Those T.V. movie types could screw up anything.I could hear Hank singing now--ARE YOU READY FOR SOME HOT RODS--ALL MY ROUDY FRIENDS ARE POSTING DOWN TONIGHT!

[saltflataddict]

"fucking Hoodlums" - I dont know I am more a Hooligan than a Hoodlum!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[dondanno]

Damm it Ryan I have been told I have a face for radio and now you blew it for me http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif. Germ and reality? Let me think..........No.....Danny

[fab32]

Thanks Ryan, I (we) appreciate it. That was a cool responce.

Frank

[55olds88]

Way to go Ryan, hell its not like the would have flown us south Seas types up to the US for it or anything...... is it ???
I wish T.V. would can all the reality crap and go back to making good escapism, damn they want reality try spending 10 hours a day here http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
About the only worth while making stuff show is the Pommy scrapheap challenge at least the y build something outa nothing not like some shows where we turn a perfectly o.k. whatever into a usless horrible looking POS !!

[Zeke]

[ QUOTE ]
kooks, the HAMB cook book is for cooks...

[/ QUOTE ]

WTF??? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif El Caballo you got me rollin on that one. What's next Food TV wanting to film the the cooking at the drags?

Hell the Drama Queen Bullshit would go up tenfold if the HAMB got on tv.

[SamIyam]

Also... Jason Priestly from 'Beverly Hills 90210' is the host... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

Sam.

[magnet]

Aww heck... you guys are a bunch of elitists :-)

hehehe TLC ... do you think they would have HAMB-CHOPPERS USA marathons? going head to head with deadlines.... I could see it now.. Billy Zane building a sweet ride ..up against Germ Cole Bleed and Roothawg... putting together a 59 buick....

...camera pans to germ arguing about putting in a y block... the next day ... camera pans to germ smokin some herb ... next day they have a party with young girls... bleed sets up his band and they jam... finally the last day they throw some mexican blankets on it.. squirt it black.. put red rims on and a HAMB sticker and tell everyone to go pack sand :-)

HAMBERS would piss off the sponsors :-)

heheheheh


good call Ryan... dont let the man ruin the good name of the HAMB

[yorgatron]

actually,reformed fucking hoodlums,for the most part.i was helping my nephew drain the gas tank on his mulletstang last week,he was wondering where i learned so much about siphoning gas http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Travis]

Kinda makes me wonder though... Is the TLC going to try to find an alternative to the HAMB?

"What? Arlen Ness doesn't want to build choppers on TV? Well screw him. We'll find another guy. How about Jesse whats-his-name??"

I think they're going to call it the Punkass Orcabetty Ratrod Kustom show... PORK. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Travis

[Mike]

Damn, there goes my chance to meet Jason Priestly! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

It's nice to be asked, but probably best to decline.

[Nads]

Ryan, your response was friggin hilarious, but you sold out your cheap ass to Rod and Custom already, why give up now?

I would've loved to have seen you and Jason Priestly enjoying a little glass of wine before taking him out for a spin in your coupe. Then it would've been nice to see him piss his pants. But from what I understand he's a racecar driver, so maybe it would take something a little scarier.

Perhaps a drunken date with one of germ's ladies.
Or maybe you could hook him up with Aaron Lasky for a special night out on the town, replete with clandestine assgrabbing of taken ladies and the subsequent removal of teeth with a 3/4" wrench.

That I'd like to see.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

They could have a build off with O.C.C and G.M.H(Gay Michigan Hambers)...

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Mike B]

Now that's keepin' it REAL. A polite thanks but NO fucking thanks. You're the man Ryan. Nads, I think we can find a way to get priestly to piss himself, Cheaters style.

[choprods]

First Ryan -My persopnal congrats to you for telling them no. I believe that those types are only into phony HYPE anyway- so we would surely be a serious letdown to their viewers. a show about the front line rebirth of traditional hot Rodding?Who the FUCK would watch that!Besides What in the Hell do three sweet lookin young Black girls["TLC" http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif] who sing HIP HOP "MUSIC", want to do a show about our http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif lame asses?

[Nads]

And I thought TLC stood for Truly Ludicrous Car(icatures).

That poor 'One Eye' Lopes, has anyone led a sadder life?
Maybe Bubbles, Michael Jackson's chimpanzee.

[Jive-Bomber]

Its nice when someone walks away from the spotlight, instead of trying so hard to jump into it. There's plenty of people trying to make a buck off this movement right now, and its getting pretty old. I've said it before, but I liked things better 3 or 4 years ago when swaps, shows, and websites like this weren't so popular. Cable TV and mainstream car shows didn't care about us.
Of course, most cool things get noticed, the word spreads, and it becomes more popular. The crowd thickens....
Shouting it from the roof tops only adds to the mayhem.

Nice job, Ryan.

[SamIyam]

I think you're right Jay... but hopefully it will die down... like all fads do...

In the mean time... we can just drive our roadsters silly...

Speaking of that... when we and Tim gonna go Roadstering with the women???
Sam.

[4t64rd]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm with ya Ryan, the only way that I would allow them to do a show about the HAMB, is if Germ could host it, UNEDITED! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

from Germ's "FAGGOTS" post

...going with Bill Hines on monster garage...

They may have gotten a taste of Germ already.

Circle the wagons Hoodlums, TLC had considered our brand of fun marketable, they won't be the last.

[Ryan]

I wish I was as noble as you guys make me seem... I considered a lot of factors including the health of the board, but honestly the deciding factor was the expense of the traffic we would see. If I was planning on selling the HAMB to the highest bidder, that wouldn't have been a problem...

As for Jason Priestly, he's a stand up guy and a pretty damn good driver. I've always said if he never did the whole acting gig, he would have had a lot more chances on the race track - he's pretty talented.

[RPW]

You did right. Thanks.

[mytlo56]

Thank you Ryan. I just don't think we could create enough drama for TLC http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[BARNETT]

[ QUOTE ]
I just don't think we could create enough drama for TLC


[/ QUOTE ]

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Yeah...we're always short on drama and opinions around here! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Jive-Bomber]

[ QUOTE ]
I think you're right Jay... but hopefully it will die down... like all fads do...
In the mean time... we can just drive our roadsters silly...
Speaking of that... when we and Tim gonna go Roadstering with the women???
Sam.

[/ QUOTE ]

As soon as it stops raining for a day!!!

Lets work on a roadster driving date at Turdlock- Hope you've got a booth and some of yo chili!

jay

[porknbeaner]

Ah hell Ryan,
I think I can be damned diplomatic in a pinch. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Its great to know that we/you got their attention. I think that it is inevitable that one day, you'll have to take someone up on an offer just like that. I don't think that it would be classed as a sell out.
Someone besides us needs to know what the whole life style is all about.
Can you imagine real hot rodders, real main stream. American Grafitti uncensored.

You did good friend. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Alfster]

<font color="red">
Fucking hoodlums!!! Who, us??? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Damn, that makes feel young all over again. </font>

[Tinbender]

Good answer Ryan. Thanks. Don't have any need to become "main stream"

[Smokin Joe]

We oughta send the intro police after them...

[beatnik]

I think you responded correctly. I dont see how the publicity could do anything good for the HAMB.

I believe if your in to traditional rods and customs at all you'll find the HAMB or hear about it through word of mouth. If you have a traditional car and you drive it at all, chances are someone from hear will eventually ask you, if your on the HAMB and tell you about it. It should stay that way.

[El Caballo]

Zeke, I was merely improving the Flyin' Dutchman's coloquial English...

[ QUOTE ]
The HAMB would indeed get overwhelmed by cooks!


[/ QUOTE ]

[andysdeuce]

I'm too old to be a fuc"ing hoodlum. I'm just an old redneck!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Cool answer to the media though. I'm happy the way we are now.

[J Man]

If they put us on the show we would have people like Boyd Coddington wanting to join.

[Curly]

I have to agree with the do not exploit a good thing thinking that many of you have. I also think Ryan's decision based on finance is great reason not too! Let TLC ride in on someone else and steamroll it to death and then leave it in lump when they are done with it. While under the influence of NyQuil it got me to thinking of a sort of top ten list...

1. I do not want to see some snot nosed kid wearing a HAMB shirt at the local mall.

2. I do not want to read 3,000 intros a day.

3. The thought of soccer moms in flat black mini-vans scares me.

4. If you paint the fenders flat black on a Honda Civic would it give the appearance of running fenderless?

5. HAMB stickers over the top of West Coast Shoppers stickers has me plotting new acts of vandalism (now that I'm an official hoodlum!!). We need to get them stickers of the HAMB shift knob in a massive 12" diameter to cover the window stickers on the imports in my 'hood.

6. The idea of a new Escalade in flat black with 23" dubs spray bombed red had me laughing. I wonder how you could turn the spinning things into something "traditional".

7. Oh my god!!! Now the PT Cruisers would become legitamate hot rods?

8. JC Whitney would be a major player in the aftermarket industry again!

9. This place has too much drama for even the guys at Orange County Crappers.

10. Cole would kick Billy Lane's ass in the first 10 minutes of the build off series between TLC and Discovery Channel...I, of course, included 7 minutes for commercial breaks. Boyd wouldn't contend because he is still in the corner bitchin' about how HIS guys can't do anything the way HE wants it done...kinda like a Billet Bob Villa.

and the top eleventh reason (NyQuil makes it hard to count to ten) why we shouldn't go on TLC...

11. Pro-street billet rods with sponge paint jobs, wild graphics, air conditioning and wheelie bars would become old school. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[Thirdyfivepickup]

Do it. I want a chance to meet Genevieve.

mmmmmmmm... Dear, sweet, Genevieve...

[scoop]

That's the second time I've been called a hoodlum,a friends mom called me one when I was a kid! Thanks for turning them down!!

[FEDER]

Good call Ryan, I couldnt imagine seeing HAMB shirts at the mall! Does Jesse James still build choppers???
Feder

[HOTRODPRIMER]

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gifHRP

[jerry]

ditto's ryan!

jerry

[plan9]

[ QUOTE ]
Good call Ryan, I couldnt imagine seeing HAMB shirts at the mall! Does Jesse James still build choppers???
Feder

[/ QUOTE ]

he should should build a MEAT BIKE...made from bacon, steaks, and other meaty bits.. the helmet can be a gas tank...

[himmelberg]

Cool has never needed a larger audience. OT's and drama queens aside, this place is cool. I would rather do my learning here than on the "Learning Channel". Another fucking hoodlum. himmelberg

[Spike!]

Nice call Ryan. I mean, why cheapen something that was already cheap to begin with?

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gifSpike

[shoebox72]

[ QUOTE ]
Do it. I want a chance to meet Genevieve.

mmmmmmmm... Dear, sweet, Genevieve...

[/ QUOTE ]

What a RACK! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Greazer]

Right on Ryan!

Gotta Go...The shows startin'

[flatheadpete]

Good call, Ryan. Now, where did that donation post go? BTW look for an auction soon from a couple of Gay Michigan Bitches. Thanks Again Ryan.
Pete and Baby's Mama

[Boones]

Ryan, I think you did the right thing..

though if they want to see real hot rods they could come out to the HAMB drags (maybe throw out some sponsorship money your way to help out with cost) and tell them they can not refernce the website or list the web address to out the masses (but make sure they do a proper intro or else Germ gets to provide some commentary).. Do it Real World style unedited, have a few cameras in some of the cars driving to the events (hot rod reality TV) Just show the hot rods parked and racing and what ever else happens. It would be better then the Osbornes...

[Mongo]

This can't be the HAMB , everybody is agreeing with each other. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Elmo Rodge]

Wow. I guess this saves me the indignity of buying a TV set. Wayno

[just steve]

Ryan --

You blew it.

"Trading Garages!" HAMBers swap garages for a weekend to redo each others cars.

Tman could drill holes all over one a Germ's cars.

Sam could Roachify CopShopCoupe's coupe. Which is the only way it could get cooler.

Rocky and Tuck could reupholster each other's Ramblers.

I could finish the Big Olds, and Denise could just put 15,000 miles on my Bugeye in a weekend.

. . . and it coulda involved Paige and Genevieve. Welding. Mmmmm . . .

Seriously, ya done good.

Steve.

[jay]

Good call Ryan of course ive been called worse than a hoodlum at times. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[slazzen]

the truth of it all is that the hamb was built to what it is by its participants and thats what attracted the likes of TLC not to take anything from Ryan for giving us this outlet and maintaining it he is a true giver but he is in no way the success of the hamb its the members that make it who chose to be here themselves if TLC is watching this site I am sure they will contact the people they want to with out Ryans endorsment I feel Ryan should take them up on there offer if they provide a free server and staff under Ryans direct authority that way Ryan gets credit for his hard work maintaining this site and it will become self supporting but to be sure and be in no way affiliated with TLC just doing bussiness with them no pop ups allowed

[Greazer]

[ QUOTE ]
. . . and it coulda involved Paige and Genevieve. Welding. Mmmmm . . .

[/ QUOTE ]

Or Grinding, (metal or otherwise). Mmmmm... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Skate Fink]

Ryan..........it's YOUR baby........you make/made the call. Hell, you should have sold out and started a new board by "invitation only." It would weed out the rif raf like me.... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Bigdaddy]

Ryan,
wow, that was a hard one im sure.Im not sure what I would have done. This board rocks man, I was just telling my brother last night as we were watching american chopper that the rides show and the one with boyd coddington is going to blow, they need to make a show were a bunch of beer drinking people make a rat rod or sled in that 5 days like the monster house and what not. Good call man, I vote Germ the host if you change your mind.

-Bigdaddy

[JSM56]

thank god the hamb isn't going on television. imagine walking into your local WALMART and seeing a hamb shirt next to the WCC shirt and thinking to yourself, "we sold out to walmart". but hey on the good side, i bet we could all attract as many preteen chicks as we could ever want. good choice Ryan.

[Grumpy]

Boones was right. They could put a dash-cam in Big Olds and oversee HRLC making her New Years resolution come true!
THAT would be good reality TV! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Good answer Boss!

[safariknut]

So do we need to design a,"I'm A F**KIN' HAMB HOODLUM and I'm MAD AS HELL and NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!" T-shirt to sell at the malls for a hundred bucks a pop or what?

[JSM56]

they can put a camera in my car and watch me pick my nose while i drive. would that sell? if so, i should be a millionaire.

[Hot Rod Ron]

I am with boones on this one. COME ON TLC I DARE YA TO TRY AND HANG WITH THE HOODLUMS HERE COME ON I DARE YA. Or come out here to the desert where the roads are long and dark at night, littered with road side crosses and will show you what hoodlum hot rodding is all about. Bring your skirt Sally

[chromedRAT]

viva HAMBilitia

[Zeke]

But how much reality could they take. Would they be show Root sitting in his drawers scrathing his ass and he types in the a rant about the Drag-N-Fly getting beat by a bunch of oldy ladys in a 03 Seville with the left turn blinker on all the way down the track.

Or what about Radshit ripping them big ole stinky green chili farts on camera.I'm sure that would be the end of it real quick.

Besides I know everyone in here has their dick in their hand wanking off to some of the best hot rod wet dreams that we have seen built right here. It's bad enough trying to explain to the wife hoping she'll believe that bullshit about you spanking it to those hot babes on www.bigtittiesbabes.com (http://Were_you_looking_looking_for_somthing_?I_caught_ye r_ass_ya_damn_horny_pervert)and not them fresh picts of the Bleedster. Praying she don't realize how bad you got the hot rod bug. Is that a STD(Swapmeet Transfered Disease)?

Think we could get Martha Steward to join the HAMB and show us how to make our own Mexican blankets out of two cotton balls, a maxi pad and a set of magic markers?

[autocol]

why should germ be the host? there wouldn't be a car in it! it would be all about smoking crack with famous people in the ghetto, while randomly screaming EVERY fourth word FOR no apparent reason. IT would completely suck AS FAR as i'm concerned...

oh yeah, and i don't know how you put comma's on TV,,,,, but there would be lots of them.


TV sucks.

[Brootal]

[ QUOTE ]
actually,reformed fucking hoodlums,for the most part.i was helping my nephew drain the gas tank on his mulletstang last week,he was wondering where i learned so much about siphoning gas http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL.. .Nice one yorg, although, I bet you haven't done what I've seen done by one of our indigenous fellows down here. One day at my Dad's old car wash this car wouldn't start. The aforementioned indigenous fellow promptly sucked up a moutfhul of fuel, then squirted it directly into the carb. He did rinse his mouth out with some lemonade though, although... I don't think he spat it out. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Getting back to the point. I (and I'm sure most other "Southerners") have NO IDEA WTF TLC is, but I imagine it's some kind of lame ass cable show that we don't really need.

There's enough weirdos around here already, we don't need no more!!!

[Missing Link]

[ QUOTE ]
why should germ be the host? there wouldn't be a car in it! it would be all about smoking crack with famous people in the ghetto, while randomly screaming EVERY fourth word FOR no apparent reason. IT would completely suck AS FAR as i'm concerned...

oh yeah, and i don't know how you put comma's on TV,,,,, but there would be lots of them.


[/ QUOTE ]


LOL http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif That's funny,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Rocky]

No matter how "on target" the program would portray us, the masses still wouldn't get it. Still wouldn't understand what drives us but that wouldn't stop 'em from trying to jump onto our band wagon...............
...........although our unwillingness to bask in fame will no doubt spark a strong curiousity. I can see TLC's wheels turning as they think:.......
"Why doesn't this rabble accept our offer to legitimize their amateur attempts at greatness? Are they hiding something?"
They'll be back....

[deuceguy]

[ QUOTE ]
No matter how "on target" the program would portray us, the masses still wouldn't get it. Still wouldn't understand what drives us but that wouldn't stop 'em from trying to jump onto our band wagon

[/ QUOTE ]

I have to agree, I'd hate for the HAMB to become the flavor of the month..........

[Curly]

This place is more dysfunctional than I ever realized! I'm LMAO over here!

This is just like watching an episode of cops....The old man is beating the piss out of his old lady when the cops role up and start smacking him around when all of a sudden she starts hammering on the cops screaming you leave him alone...

We beat each other up around here pretty good and when the cops (TLC) come snooping around we all join as one big happy family and tell them to get bent...we don't want them around. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Petejoe]

Bring on those new Hambers we'll whip them to submission.

[littledeucecoupe427]

cool that we were asked

[NortonG]

I'm glad I'm not the first one to us the words selling out but t.v. people just suck my will to live.
I agree with you Ryan good decision.

[Iceberg]

I guess you are right, I would not like to see a show about traditional rods &amp; customs. I would much rather see a couple of disfunctional assholes build bikes, or a crazy fuck tear apart a car and make a lawn mowers out of it, or Boyd Coddingbuck building mega buck repli-cars. Shit man, no publicity is bad publicity. Think of the young guys that maybe would get into our hobbie instead of building another fucking rice burner. I guess I missed out on the "making a fucking anti-social statement" part when I built my hot rod pickup.

[slazzen]

I gotta agree with Iceberg on this one!!! Finaly a cool concept of a learning show !!!that includes the HAMB comes along and you guys fall in like sheep??? You all might as well have occ and wcc shirts you certainly act like the people that wear them!!!

[hatch]

I'm tired of shit I like becoming normal....keep the HAMB abnormal forever. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[hotrodladycrusr]

Iceburg, Slazzen, you two going to come up with the TONS of extra cash it would cost to keep this place in operation if the general masses started arriving here in droves?

If either of you have a traditional hot rod shop contact TLC and offer them the opportunity to film the whole build at your place. I'm sure alot of HAMB folks would come for a week or two to help you build something cool while being filmed.

[nailhead_sled]

Great response Ryan. A million thanks for not bringing the HAMB into living rooms worldwide.

[thirtytwo]

[ QUOTE ]
Iceburg, Slazzen, you two going to come up with the TONS of extra cash it would cost to keep this place in operation if the general masses started arriving here in droves?

If either of you have a traditional hot rod shop contact TLC and offer them the opportunity to film the whole build at your place. I'm sure alot of HAMB folks would come for a week or two to help you build something cool while being filmed.

[/ QUOTE ]....NOW THATS AN IDEA !!!!!!!LIKE MONSTER GARAGE ,BUT WITH SOMETHING COOL!!! INSTED OF A 100MPH INDYCAR PAINT STRIPER

[roadster36]

Congrats on keeping things in a straight line Ryan. In my opinion the stuff on TV showing the bike builders, monster garage, etc. shows poor taste and sends a bad message to people just getting started. There are enough knuckle-dragging sociopath wanna-be's in this world without imortalizing more. If PBS or TLC wanted to do a series similar to "This Old House" showing the various techniques and skills invloved in rodding then I would say "full speed ahead". A real life show, highlighting the real-life skills involved in what we do would be an asset. We don't need to see people acting like assholes, throwing tools, throwing temper tantrums, etc. There are a lot of talented, creative people on HAMB (TLC and old man Teutle could take a lesson.(I feel sorry for Paul Jr.He seems like a class act.) Treat people with respect and you will get the same. Just my .02 cents. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Kojack]

Goddamn it. My chance to make myself and my visor nationwide celeberities has been foiled yet again!

[Zodoff]

Nationwide??? Your already famous in scandinavia,kojack!

[Humboldt Cat]

Good call, I'd say. Most business might say the exposure couldn't hurt, but then you wouldn't want this hangout to get TOO commercial or crowded... it could hurt more than it helps. Not that I want to keep this place as a secret, but then it might become different if being on the HAMB became chic, y'know? For TLC: good call. Really cool of you, too, to let us in on it, btw.

[Missing Link]

[ QUOTE ]
Think of the young guys that maybe would get into our hobbie instead of building another fucking rice burner.

[/ QUOTE ] <--- that will never happen just by having a TV show showing a build up of a traditional rod. Do you see every flippin' yahoo with a mustang turning it into a lawnmower?

[ QUOTE ]
Finaly a cool concept of a learning show !!!that includes the HAMB comes along and you guys fall in like sheep???

[/ QUOTE ] So let me get this straight, if the program isn't associated to the HAMB nothing can be learned from it? Brilliant...

[ QUOTE ]
You all might as well have occ and wcc shirts you certainly act like the people that wear them!!!


[/ QUOTE ] C'mon now! You know that hypocrisy runs amok on this board and in most peoples lives don't you?

[ QUOTE ]
I guess I missed out on the "making a fucking anti-social statement" part when I built my hot rod pickup.


[/ QUOTE ] So the HAMB drags, all the get togethers that people have that revolve around other members, the sharing of information; all that stuff is anti-social?

[ QUOTE ]
If either of you have a traditional hot rod shop contact TLC and offer them the opportunity to film the whole build at your place. I'm sure alot of HAMB folks would come for a week or two to help you build something cool while being filmed.


[/ QUOTE ] <----that is the BEST suggestion I have heard yet!

To be honest, any members that contribute worthwhile information on a regular basis here (I do not include myself in that statement) should be damn proud of the fact that a TV show wanted to use this forum on a program to convey learning. I agree with Ryan and his decision and I really appreciate his willingness to not "sell-out" so to speak. I like it here and have learned a lot in a short time. Hmmmmm...

[ QUOTE ]
Not that I want to keep this place as a secret

[/ QUOTE ] Neither do I. There are probably many builders out there that have never heard of this place or a computer for that matter http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif I just believe that an influx of attempted hot rod/kustom types would probably not make it a very cool place to hang around at.

Me? I'm here all day. It gives me something to do at work. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Germ]

[ QUOTE ]
why should germ be the host? there wouldn't be a car in it! it would be all about smoking crack with famous people in the ghetto, while randomly screaming EVERY fourth word FOR no apparent reason. IT would completely suck AS FAR as i'm concerned...

oh yeah, and i don't know how you put comma's on TV,,,,, but there would be lots of them.


TV sucks.

[/ QUOTE ]

I have to be nice, or you will cry...

[Germ]

Oh and I am going to be on T.V again really soon,,,,,

Has nothing to do with HOT RODS though, and it wont be ON COPS..........

wait for the SHOW,

BYE

[Johnny Ace]

Hey Bolillo....quit hanging around with "Dirty Donny"....
I don't like being CHEATED on......I MAY let him sharpen my pencils, IF he shows proper respect to "the GOAT" first....
The "HELL-CAMINO" will live this year..then maybe Esnacky6 will FeDex me all his pakalolo from S.C.
Call......gotta job for ya.

[Jester]

I should most likely keep my mouth shut but here it goes anyway. I would really like to see a show that encludes people who are "real" building "real" rides. I would think it was the koolest if a member of the HAMB was the topic of such show. I don't think it needs to be advirtised as a HAMB project and I don't think that the HAMB should even be spoken of during the show. We would know and that would be enough. I think Ryan did the best thing for the HAMB as most of you have said. This is just my humble opinion I may be wrong and often I am.

[slazzen]

This Really cracks me up!!! We dont even know the content or format that TLC has in mind?? But like sheep we asume its gonna be just like the ones on discovery!!! The HAMB CHOP every week with Ryan`s car and logo on shirts in every Walmart nation wide?? And That due to all the fame the HAMB will colapse due to finacial crisis!!!Heavan forbid that it airs after tuners weekly and more tradional cars show up at events with guys wearing Von Dutch shirts !!! Then the post count will go thru the roof !!!! And there will be a huge run on red krylon and we will have to suffer the ills of e-bay prices on the rare red krylon

[UNCLECHET]

Ryan,

I think you made the right call. Thanks for not selling out. I try not to advertise for anybody (except small shops) but I'd be proud to wear a HAMB shirt the next time they come up.

[lakes modified]

Ryan: Rat-on. can't you just see them lurking on here for about 10 to 15 seconds?. they probally can't hit the "delet" button fast enough.

[burtrido]

I think this is a sad thing. I hope this is not the begining of the end.I've been logging on to this place for a lot of years and learned alot even though I don't post much. Ryan thanks for telling them to fuck off, I hope they just stay away. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif