Vintage Custom '36 Ford pic...

[Spooky]

Howza Bruthas,
I was just scrounging around on E-Bay and stumbled upon this pic of a sectioned '36 Ford convertible. Wonder who did the work on it?
Westergard maybe??
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3373728897&category=18 826

[seldom scene]

Looks too crude to be Westergaard, stock grille and lights were not his style.

[Spooky]

True, true...

But, it looks like the car was in its early stages. Dig the primer and no hood sides. I wonder if the car was in the early build stages???

[50Fraud]

I don't think it's sectioned at all; it's channeled. The rear fenders have been left in their original wheel wells, and the front fenders have been raised relative to the body. Notice how the lower edges of the fenders don't align.

It also appears to be a coupe with the top cut off. Not the work of any famous custom body man, I'd say.

[Spooky]

D'OH!
Right you are.....I blame it on lack of caffeine..

[36couper]

Whoever did it should be shot, killed and pissed on. Like a '40 Ford, the '36's do not need chopping, channeling, sectioning, cutting, hacking or any other mutilation. They have classic lines and should be left in their original form.

[286merc]

Hmmm, so we are a forum looking for period correct traditional stuff, correct?
So now comes a 1947 version and the bitches are out in force.
Even tho if may be strictly a Hollywood prop somebody had to build it and it shows just one idea from the era.

BTW, it looks like a convertible, not a roadster or cut down coupe. There wasnt much reason to cut coupes back in 47 Cali.

[RPW]

36couper: No christmas gifts or whats the matter?
I´ve been at the HAMB for eight years but until now I have heard no such opinions here! Please leave them for the restorers crowd, there I´ve heard them too many times...

This is a board for traditional Rod and Customs and that does for sure include sectioned, chopped or channeled 36-40 coupes!

Also: Your "resto-rodded" Washington Blue 36 5-w looks real good to me. And I can even appriciate the state of the art high tech Ridler-Award winning Foose cars (even if the later ones are not the kind of cars for this board).
You see, even if I´m a die-hard custom guy I´m not narrow minded...

I might add that I did highly appricate the photo of the channeled 36 (even if that car did look a bit crude!)

[cleatus]

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Whoever did it should be shot, killed and pissed on. Like a '40 Ford, the '36's do not need chopping, channeling, sectioning, cutting, hacking or any other mutilation.

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So I guess that beauty that Cole is working on is an abomination then?

[seldom scene]

That 36 is very typical of the "hot rods to hell" that kids were driving in the late 40's early 50's." Finished" cars were in the minority, owned by rich kids or "older" guys who had full time jobs or relatives who owned body shops. When hollywood made those cheap movies they rented the cars from kids in the L A area. Some guys were able to make a little money on the deal if their cars weren't damaged in the process. My 40 is a custom and I changed it, no matter what the magazine guys say about what are sacred lines.Bullshit, my car looks a lot better with a few mods. If you want to build a restora-rod go ahead it's your car. I prefer customs.

[50Fraud]

Cool! A thread where I can get in several stupid arguments at once!

36Couper: I agree that '36s and '40s don't need chopping, etc, but it's certainly possible to customize these cars successfully. It's just difficult to improve on them, and most efforts actually degrade their appearance. I'd point to the Calori coupe (illustrated) as a great, successful early custom '36.

286Merc: I disagree, it's not a convert/cabriolet. The windshield shape is that of a closed car, it has a hacked-off A-pillar left standing, and it doesn't have cabriolet doors. Furthermore, it has a weird, long passenger compartment with some sort of back seat (although the passengers sit way high); I think it's a 5-window with the cockpit cut back further than the rear of the coupe top.

Seldom Scene: I agree that this kind of car existed in the day. I agree that these models can benefit from customizing. I think this particular car shows no sense of style or craftsmanship, and would deserve the term "rat rod" if it had been coined back then.

More to follow.

[50Fraud]

Although the Calori car was an ambitious and difficult car to execute (insert Cole Foster's current project with similar adjectives), Eric Perkins' roadster shows that it's possible to do an effective custom without a lot of challenging metalwork. The fenders and running boards on Eric's car are handled simply, but they work as part of its overall appearance:

[50Fraud]

I don't remember this guy's name (sorry), but I think in this view that it has much the same slinky appeal as Calori's car, with a modern spin in its unorthodox paint scheme. My apologies to Hotrods Online, Peter Vincent, and anyone else whose photographs I have stolen:

[50Fraud]

On my own '36, I tried to change the appearance of the car while respecting the best features of the original design. It's chopped very slightly, has '37 bumpers and lowered headlights, and Jack Calori's rear end treatment almost exactly. Overall, I like its appearance better than that of a stock 3-window.

[MichaelDorman]

I think that red and black 36 belongs to Jim Woods, not entirely sure though.

[36couper]

Yeah, maybe I was a little too harsh. Someone peed in my cornflakes this morning I guess.
Its the subtle changes that I appreciate the most.......just like 50Frauds. Looks perfect.
No, I have never had a 'Foose' type car. Every rod I've owned has been driven like its stolen.

[plowman]

[first let me say I am VERY new to computors, I'm not even sure you will get this plea for info. I have built a 36 ford coupe and am very happy with everything but the brakes. I installed a tci power booster in the frame under the front seat area, and have 11in discs on the front and drums on the back. The problem is I have very bad brakes. could you or anyone you know walk me though what I need to improve my brakes ? can I run the lines from the master directly to the front brakes without a proportioning valve ? or ????
thanks plowman

[ABone312]

[first let me say I am VERY new to computors, I'm not even sure you will get this plea for info. I have built a 36 ford coupe and am very happy with everything but the brakes. I installed a tci power booster in the frame under the front seat area, and have 11in discs on the front and drums on the back. The problem is I have very bad brakes. could you or anyone you know walk me though what I need to improve my brakes ? can I run the lines from the master directly to the front brakes without a proportioning valve ? or ????
thanks plowman

You should do an intro to the board, and start a new thread and you'd get more help than attaching it to the end of a 2 year old one. With that said, what exactly do you have in your brake system? Did you install residual pressure valves? If not, you need them since the master is below the level of the rest of the brakes. Did you put a proportioning valve in the system? If you put one in, what kind and where in line did you install it? What kind of issue exactly are you having with the brakes? You can PM me if you want with answers, and I'll help as much as I can. I really would suggest starting a new thread to get the best results, though.

[plowman]

Thank you for the reply I will try what you suggested and get back to you
plowman