You call this a paint job?

[Donzie]

When Matt (HotRodDrummer) said his truck was being painted I thought oh, he's covering up the flat black with shiney red, or green or yellow maybe? But when I saw it today I was knocked out! Not at all what I expected.
See pics below.

[Donzie]

Some of the HAMB members discussing the "paint job".
Did he get his money's worth?

[Donzie]

Looks like they burned thru a little in that final sanding.

[Donzie]

I wonder what his Dad thinks about this? Good advertising?

[yorgatron]

oh boy,another "faux patina"shop truck. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[BARNETT]

Nice! Crease and I were just talking about doing some weathered lettering on his truck. Lets see a close up of the lettering...pleeeease.

[Donzie]

Actually, this is pretty cool. I hope I'm not giving away any secrets here but the front fenders are glass. How do like the "rust" spots?
This was one of the coolest things I saw at Frankenmuth. Thanks Matt for bringing it.

[J. Cougar]

[ QUOTE ]
oh boy,another "faux patina"shop truck.

[/ QUOTE ]
Oh boy' some more negativity.

[HotRodDrummer]

I must say (and let me say, I am NOT the owner, simply the son of a great man), I like it.....a lot.....

it's fun to drive (it was fun to drive in BLACK PRIMER too).....I don't care say what you will....

It's fun
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
HRD


it's FUN!!!!

Let me just say this.... how many "BARN FRESH" rods do you expect to see in this worlD???

[BARNETT]

Thanks. Looks real...and real cool!

[hightest]

killer looking truck, and a tom waits quote to boot!

[customcarpainter]

How does a person do the faux patina paint work.I've looked at several trucks painted this way and would like to learn.

[roadstar]

It looks real cool Matt. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
I thought the same thing when I heard it was getting painted. But I see you guys had something alittle different in mind than sanded and rubbed glossy urathane. I see it is sanded and rubbed though http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[CURIOUS RASH]

<font color="green">I dig it!

Great job.

</font>

[Jeff Norwell]

Very kool patina!

[praisethelowered]

Once I went to a friends house he had just bought, and he embarassedly showed me what the previous owner had done- apparently an interior decorator had swung a chain against the kitchen cabinets to "distress" them and painted them to look old. It was pathetic and kinda funny. The funniest part was that it still didn't look real because it was too even.

In no way does this this story have any parallels with this post. Any conclusions drawn from this story between the masculinity of the interior decorating profession and hotrodders are those of the reader.

[Luke Jivetalker]

[ QUOTE ]
oh boy,another "faux patina"shop truck. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

My thoughts exactly Yorg..... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[sixpac]

Hey I got patina from 54 years of plying in the mud and all that stuff that gives a man that lived in look. Scatchs on the back you gey my drift anyway nice patina on a cool truck. Looks like you dont have to take off your shoes befor you get in. Patina! John

[Boones]

I believe Josh could provide some insite into the exact details as I believe he did some of the work on Poteets and the one with the Injected motor in back

From what I understand you paint different color primers (remember where you painted it so take a pic) and then he used thinned way down One Shot and applied with a brush.. Then sanded thru on some of the high spots (curves and corners) to get the rub thru effect...

[roadstar]

[ QUOTE ]
I believe Josh could provide some insite into the exact details as I believe he did some of the work on Poteets and the one with the Injected motor in back



[/ QUOTE ]

Josh and his dad did the truck for Poteet, and the hilborn 32 truck belongs to Josh's dad Dan Shaw. They do the best patina work around. But alot of people don't get the facts right before they get on the HAMB and there had been enough wrong info given about Josh and his dad. He is not too fond of the HAMB forum lately.

[ray]

not to mention that at least one of the coats of paint must be brush applied house paint! also the horizontal surfaces should be extremely weathered "from the sun" while the vertical ones should not be.

what really baffles me though, is why? i can understand faux patina on a 32 roadster, you just don't stumble across them with "presentabe" patina everyday anymore, but F-1 trucks? they're about the farthest thing from being rare.

i would like to see faux patina put to good use and done properly, like a vintage racecar or hot rod, restored to one of its well worn, but updated slightly later versions.

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
How does a person do the faux patina paint work.I've looked at several trucks painted this way and would like to learn.



[/ QUOTE ]

To answer this question:
From what I can tell it looks like they put down a few coats of contrasting color paint and then sand or rub through it.

But in my opinion, they get it all wrong. Take the pic of the truck above for example. They are on the right path, cause that truck looks great......but.
If fooling the eye is what that paint job is suppose to do, then it falls short.

It falls short because it has a UNIFORM quality to it. NOTHING ages in a uniform manner. These people need to use different colors of paint. One fender needs to be painted about 50 times while the other is painted only 6 times. The hood needs to have a few chains scraped over it...then leave that out in the rain. Then spray primer over that and then sand...then put a box of old tools on the roof. Pile the bed with some old oil soaked rags, then throw on some dirt. Sweep that out, then paint it. then sand. then chain it. then...get out the chickens and have them roost on it.... tie the dog to the bumber for a week and park in the mud........you get the idea.

Patina comes from lots of dissimilar surface treatments. All which can be imitated in a few weeks or months if you know what you are doing. And if the idea is to fool the eye, then DO IT!
Just my opinion....

Sorry for the rant and hijacking the post.

JT.

[/ QUOTE ]

[AHotRod]

Lot's of opinions and critics out there........I say its GREAT.

[Hot Rod To Hell]

Hey guys, I checked that truck out up in Frankenmuth, and it is AWESOME! Donzie took some great pics, but even those don't do it justice. Sure you might be able to tell it's not a real patina if you look at it long enough, but who cares? I can tell that yer flat black and red wheels is far from original at first glance, but I still dig it. Rusty 'glass fenders? Whens the last time you saw that? I don't care how much you guys wanna dog it, it's cool. REAL cool. Job well done guys!

[jdubbya]

I thought that the truck was real cool and well done, and I was especially blow away to hear that Hot Rod Drummer had a fondness for chicken salad.

[uncleAud]

saw the truck a couple weeks ago in Stanton car show...makes you look at it going by...after lookin close was really taken by the art work that was done with it...after all it is all art...and critics are a dime a dozen actually they are getting to be cheaper than that on this board:)

[Harrison]

[/ QUOTE ] But alot of people don't get the facts right before they get on the HAMB and there had been enough wrong info given about Josh and his dad. He is not too fond of the HAMB forum lately.

[/ QUOTE ]

I haven't noticed Josh posting on the HAMB in a LONG time. What's got him down on the HAMB lately? I saw him at the Sahdes of the Past this weekend and spoke to him briefly. Cool guy.

We could use his input here - often. Speaking of his input, anyone got an email address for him? I have a few questions.

-JH

[Donzie]

This is the first I've seen the Poteet truck.
I'm seeing some simularities here.
Both are cool.

[HotRodDrummer]

[ QUOTE ]
This is the first I've seen the Poteet truck.
I'm seeing some simularities here.
Both are cool.

[/ QUOTE ]

My Dad saw Poteets truck at Indy and fell in love with it.

This is the result of that....

He also talked to Dan for some time, very nice guy.... went through the process with him, telling him how it was done.
Really, a trade secret he didn't need to share, but he did...nice guy

[SLAMIT]

What the fuck is that.
I am sorry but I cant stand shit like that. Almost as annoying as these fukin pop ups as I am trying to vent. Great work on the paint job but that is fukin stupid. Why so you can look like something you arent. Cars gain carachter through time and experiance or lack of. And character is cool but when you paint on character it looks like you ar trying real hard to fit in "Just like the 50's" God i cant stand this shit I know opinions are like assholes but I had to vent on this situation. And what is with the fake rust man. Come on So many people pay so much money and or time to get rid of that shit and you are painting it on like it is cool or a statement. Blagh I hate it
SLAMIT http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[SLAMIT]

I do like the old logos though if they are actually for a real operating shop. by the way there is great talant shown in this work just not my thing and I had to get it off my chest
Thanks I feel better.
SLAMIT

[HotRodDrummer]

[ QUOTE ]
So many people pay so much money and or time to get rid of that shit and you are painting it on like it is cool or a statement. Blagh I hate it


[/ QUOTE ]
Taht's cool man....I've never tried to fit in to anything, and by the way, the rust is on glass...AND IT"S REAL!!!
[ QUOTE ]
I do like the old logos though if they are actually for a real operating shop.

[/ QUOTE ]

It is a real shop, and I'm glad you feel better...have a good night

[ray]

oh, i GET IT after seeing the poteet truck. ha!

trade secret?? please, what kind of moron do you gotta be to not be able to figure out what kind of application and weathering it takes to make a 50 year old truck look 50 years old? or real rust on fiberglass? good hobby shops have rust kits, i'm sure a person could google up a ton of info on faux rusting.

maybe i've live too many years in monnesota, maybe i've been around too many trucks that are used, abused, and worn out, to fully comprehend why someone would put all that work into faux finishing something that could be easily found with the real thing. whats next, trowelling mud into the fenderwells, using a tweezers and glue to carefully place bugs on the front?

its not the weathering, its tha fact that its a plain jane truck. in perspective, that birdshit glass roadster in R&amp;C looks pretty good.

[HotRodDrummer]

[ QUOTE ]
whats next, trowelling mud into the fenderwells, using a tweezers and glue to carefully place bugs on the front?

[/ QUOTE ]

gee, That's a good idea http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[jdubbya]

You guys that are dogging Matt, should reserve judgement until seen in person. It may not be your thing but to each his own. All this negativity really sucks!

[mikes51]

I'm curious as to why the phone number isn't JA5-6051, as in the 50's manner of reciting phone numbers. In this case, "call Jackson 5, 6051". Perhaps too confusing to potential customers who weren't around in those days.

Never the less, it's a very interesting, creative approach to finishing a truck.

[Kevin Lee]

Doesn't really matter what you do to it - someone is going to hate it or find a reason you should have done it their way.

[HotRodDrummer]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm curious as to why the phone number isn't JA5-6051

[/ QUOTE ]
I really wanted to do that, it would be JA7-6051. My dad had final say on the truck and he didn't want to confuse anyone....

J dub, Opinions are opinions, Take them with a grain of salt..

[kustombuilder]

[ QUOTE ]
What the fuck is that.
I am sorry but I cant stand shit like that. Almost as annoying as these fukin pop ups as I am trying to vent. Great work on the paint job but that is fukin stupid. Why so you can look like something you arent. Cars gain carachter through time and experiance or lack of. And character is cool but when you paint on character it looks like you ar trying real hard to fit in "Just like the 50's" God i cant stand this shit I know opinions are like assholes but I had to vent on this situation. And what is with the fake rust man. Come on So many people pay so much money and or time to get rid of that shit and you are painting it on like it is cool or a statement. Blagh I hate it
SLAMIT http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[/ QUOTE ]


EAT A DICK ASSHOLE!!! it's people like you that suck all the fun out of life. don't like it? fine, move on and get over it but you don't need to be suck a jackass about it. you obviously DON'T GET IT!!!

[kustombuilder]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm curious as to why the phone number isn't JA5-6051, as in the 50's manner of reciting phone numbers. In this case, "call Jackson 5, 6051". Perhaps too confusing to potential customers who weren't around in those days.

Never the less, it's a very interesting, creative approach to finishing a truck.

[/ QUOTE ]


i think they actually wanted people to be able to call them.

[Radshit]

I should of left mine alone.............

But those two trucks are cool. F-1's are cool no matter how you paint them........

[kustombuilder]

[ QUOTE ]
oh, i GET IT after seeing the poteet truck. ha!

trade secret?? please, what kind of moron do you gotta be to not be able to figure out what kind of application and weathering it takes to make a 50 year old truck look 50 years old? or real rust on fiberglass? good hobby shops have rust kits, i'm sure a person could google up a ton of info on faux rusting.

maybe i've live too many years in monnesota, maybe i've been around too many trucks that are used, abused, and worn out, to fully comprehend why someone would put all that work into faux finishing something that could be easily found with the real thing. whats next, trowelling mud into the fenderwells, using a tweezers and glue to carefully place bugs on the front?

its not the weathering, its tha fact that its a plain jane truck. in perspective, that birdshit glass roadster in R&amp;C looks pretty good.

[/ QUOTE ]


i guess not everybody is as knowledgeable as you Ray nor do we all have you exceptional taste. ---in case you did'nt pick up on it that was all SARCASM assface!!!! fuckin critics, i'd like to line em all up and shoot em in the knee, see how they like that!!

[HotRodDrummer]

Calm down Mikey....Grain of Salt, Grain of Salt

[kustombuilder]

DAMN! who pissed in my cornflakes??


i just don't see any need for all the negativity. somebody worked their ass off on some of this stuff you pricks are rippin on. you don't have to like it but i think you could find a nicer way of putting it. you did'nt like it when i just ripped you a new on for your opinion did ya? well think how your making the guy who did the work feel, or the owner. have a heart. do you think everybody likes everything you do??? i don't think so, so grow up and try to be a decent human being.

[hotrodladycrusr]

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Tell us how you REALLY feel, Mike. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[kustombuilder]

[ QUOTE ]
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Tell us how you REALLY feel, Mike. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]


i JUST did, were'nt you listening??? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[kustombuilder]

[ QUOTE ]
Calm down Mikey....Grain of Salt, Grain of Salt

[/ QUOTE ]


better give me the whole container today!!!

[Radshit]

I believe the purpose of this post, so it seems, was to get people's opinion. Ray was just expressing his opinion.

[james]

Well, I like it, if it's done well and not over the top (like fake birdshit.) I saw a 32' a few years ago with new patina... looked so stupid. It was obviously a brand new glass body, new rims and tires, new tweed interior, and then brushed on paint sanded through here and there. It was a joke. Not sure about the fake rust, but I like the idea of the paint. Real useful when you lose the real patina fixing major dents and rust, or after a chop. I really like the logos, any closeups?

[HotRodDrummer]

[ QUOTE ]
Ray was just expressing his opinion.

[/ QUOTE ]

yes, and so eloquently expressed too http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[hotrodladycrusr]

Donzie's "questions" were all tongue in cheek. Matt never asked for anyone opinions, he's not the type to even care what others think. He's not really the type that would even post photos of his own stuff. He's very low keyed.

The truck is certainly doing it's job! A controversial post like this is great advertsing. Now everyone who reads this and is following along knows that Matt and his dad have a hot rod shop in Ionia and the phone number has even been posted in this thread a time or two. Just in case anyone cares, the area code for Ionia, where Matt and his Dad own a hot rod shop, is 616. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[OGNC]

I guess that some people won't be satisfied until you paint it semi-gloss black and put some crappy flames on it. But don't use DP90 -- oh wait it is okay to use DP90 this week. I just can't keep up anymore. Well until there is a clear winner of the Suede Debate you should just leave the way it is...

By the way, the truck looks really nice -- I like it alot.

[Radshit]

Anytime you post a picture up on the board.....you're asking for an opinion.... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[HotRodDrummer]

[ QUOTE ]
Anytime you post a picture up on the board.....you're asking for an opinion....

[/ QUOTE ]

That's why I've never posted a picture!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif


Oh wait, I posted two of my Buick Roadster when I signed in for the first time, juststeve backed me up. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[HotRodDrummer]

Well Guys, this has been a lot of fun, I've enjoyed everybodies comments. Not as much fun as driving the truck, but.....well, I think I'm going to go for a ride. Want to come along?? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Harrison]

That truck and Poteet's fucking rock!

-JH

[hotrodladycrusr]

Come pick me up in that cool truck... I'd LOVE to go for a ride http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Germ]

Whats the POINT? it looks like SHIT made on purpose?

Makes alot of since, to build a SHOP truck and advertise a HOT ROD shop,,, yet build the truck to look like shit?

HUMMMM..
Usually when your in advertising, the display item is going to show your neatest work...

Not sure what the AIM, was here, but I think you hit a FOUL ball..
It doesn't even LOOK like PATINA....

germ

[lesabre59]

I gotta agree with Germ on this one, if they are advertising that there hot rod shop can take ANY vehicle, new or old and "weather" it than they accomplished there goal, but if i saw the truck from a distance and didnt know better the only reason i would want the number is so i could AVOID that shop, gives the impression that that cant even fix there own vehicle. I do appreciate the time and craftmanship but the message seems wrong for the intent. JMO

[=mike=]

It reminds me of the guitars that Fender makes , they are called " relics " . They are fake aged and made to look all vintage and antique . I guess it is cool if that's what you wanted it to look like , you did a good job . That must have been ALOT of colour sanding . I think it is cooler of the paintjob ends up looking like that after many years on the road . Same as the ratbikes that are held together with bailing wire and string , after years of falling aprt on the road . I think " patina " should be found or earned . . . but again it isnt my truck , or my problem . As long as you drive the shiht out of it , then it does what a vehicle is suposed to do . Goodonnya http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[himmelberg]

Will reserve my opinion on the paint job. Must say that I admire a guy who does it his way, caring not a whit for opinions... other than they're fun. Was wondering what you used on your running boards. Grandson is going to spray a bedliner (rhinoliner?) on his Jimmy. Was wondering if that would work on running boards... does that material trap moisture... become impossible to remove... that kind of thing. thanks. himmelberg

[cleatus]

I like it.

I'll take creativity over just another boring-ass red or yellow paint job anyday.

[hatch]

Geeez...you would think he put 22" billet wheels on it....whatta bunch of fuckin whiners....the truck looks great.

[kustombuilder]

[ QUOTE ]


Not sure what the AIM, was here, but I think you hit a FOUL ball..
It doesn't even LOOK like PATINA....

germ


[/ QUOTE ]


come on Germy, i know your smarter than that. you can figure it out.

[kustombuilder]

[ QUOTE ]
I gotta agree with Germ on this one, if they are advertising that there hot rod shop can take ANY vehicle, new or old and "weather" it than they accomplished there goal, but if i saw the truck from a distance and didnt know better the only reason i would want the number is so i could AVOID that shop, gives the impression that that cant even fix there own vehicle. I do appreciate the time and craftmanship but the message seems wrong for the intent. JMO

[/ QUOTE ]


yer DUMB!!!

[kustombuilder]

[ QUOTE ]
Geeez...you would think he put 22" billet wheels on it....whatta bunch of fuckin whiners....the truck looks great.

[/ QUOTE ]

i think some in this crowd of whiners would prefer it that way from the sounds of things..


damn i love stirin up shit some times... SHIT, time to go back to work......

[Zeke]

Fisrt off Kustomwanker you are an ass. I don't think you need any more salt with all that sucking up yer doing. There now you have a REASON to slam me. So feel free cause its funny that you take shit on the net so personal. I ain't gonna respond to it other than this.

As for the paint job, the workmanship it looks pretty go in the pict. Makes not a bit of sense but looks like fine work. I can see if your were gonna park in mueseum or something. Do you wax the "weathered" spots or does it just get left alone? I'm in total agreement with Germ on it but hey its not mine so have fun with it.

[HotRodDrummer]

[ QUOTE ]
Whats the POINT? it looks like SHIT made on purpose?

Makes alot of since, to build a SHOP truck and advertise a HOT ROD shop,,, yet build the truck to look like shit?

HUMMMM..
Usually when your in advertising, the display item is going to show your neatest work...

Not sure what the AIM, was here, but I think you hit a FOUL ball..
It doesn't even LOOK like PATINA....

germ

[/ QUOTE ]

It is amazing how you can say so little in so many words.

[plan9]

looks fine to me.

[Donzie]

[ QUOTE ]

HUMMMM..
Usually when your in advertising, the display item is going to show your neatest work...
germ


[/ QUOTE ]
I thought the idea was to attract attention...seems to me it's doing it's job.
Man, I didn't mean to stir up the pot, I just thought some of you would like to see it. If you don't like it I would think that "I don't like it" would be enough, but apparently not. I hate to think what some of you must think about my tub!

[CherryBlossom]

I think the truck looks awesome http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I wanna go for a ride Matt! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[ray]

[ QUOTE ]

i guess not everybody is as knowledgeable as you Ray nor do we all have you exceptional taste. ---in case you did'nt pick up on it that was all SARCASM assface!!!! fuckin critics, i'd like to line em all up and shoot em in the knee, see how they like that!!

[/ QUOTE ]

hmm, one of the posts i was referring to was changed or deleted?

anyway, i DO have high expectations, and like to think i have pretty decent taste, and i grew up with farm trucks. when someone tells me, "hey check out that period 50's custom over there" i don't want to walk over and see digital gauges and airbag switches, that ain't period. same with a paint treatment. i don't dislike the concept itself, i have a few fake patina projects in the works myself, i was offering a little constructive criticism, if a little blunt. if one person says it don't look like real patina, then theres a hundred more that are thinking it but ain't gonna say it. from what the pics show, it looks about like any other vehicle being prepped for a paint job, and maybe given up on.

this assface says too fuckin bad if people can't handle opinions. at least i didn't call it an ugly piece of shit or whatever whoever said. anybody in the hot rod/custom thing should be able to cope with those whose opinions are not the same. some of us dig styles that NOBODY else seems to understand or comprehend, so rejection is part of the game. i'd be in a rubber room if i got pissy everytime some jackass told me what i "should" do to my shit.

the internet can be kinda like at a show, when you just stand back 20 feet from your own car, and listen to comments, do you rush over and start yelling and argueing at every person who makes a critical comment?


oh, and i don't even dislike the truck, i just could look "a little more real" http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Germ]

Ok the TRUCK is UGLY, and your a DUMBASS for making it UGLY......................


FAKE PATINA,,, wow,,,,,,,,, SO COOL,,,,,, sure shows off your BUILDER ability,,,,,,,
Your a HUMP..............................
For making a TRUCK LOOK like that............

and THE other BITCHES from MICHIGAN(tm)...Who lick your ass thinking it's
Cool.... pffft go figure, you live in michigan,,,,,,,,,

[fuel pump]

Can't we all just get along http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif You folks need to lighten up.... this is suppose to be FUN .... remember??

[robber grin]

I guess this is a nice illustration of what a bunch of miserable jack-offs can say about a man's vision for HIS ride...
un-frig'n-real. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Yeah I know what "right" do I have even looking, much less speaking out. After all I'm just a F'n new guy. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

The best part about this board "WAS" seeing everyone's work in their pics and hearing how somebody else got it done.

There ain't no rules...
Soooo get off your keyboard and go build a truck.

I've found that time and money are the only real factors involved, since I'm just a taxpayer and a family man (with a life).
Do what you can with what you have, and drive the hell out of it when you're "done".

I think it's a nice truck. Enjoy it.
Opinions are seldom very useful anyways.

[HotRodDrummer]

[ QUOTE ]
and THE other BITCHES from MICHIGAN(tm)...Who lick your ass thinking it's
Cool.... pffft go figure, you live in michigan,,,,,

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, we don't see that in any other state now do we!!



And just to stir-up the pot http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif It's got a 85 Cutless wagon frt. clip, a 350 chevy http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

I had a great ride yesterday, drove all over Michigan, like a dream http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

And hey....I'm still smiling http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'll be a dumbass and say I like it. I love black primer and I'm starting to get tired of seeing it. If you don't like it don't look at it!!
Clark

[hotrodladycrusr]

Because I live in Michigan, I CAN'T like my friends truck?? and I'm a bitch?? This is fucking great! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Everyone lumped into the same pot. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Seems to me MOST HAMB folks don't like that being done to them and raise holy hell when it's done by "outsiders". Why are we doing it to our own?

If you like the truck great, if you don't, thats fine too. I certainly CAN'T understand the name calling. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[**DONOTDELETE**]

This is a good example of why some people have left the HAMB. Some people need to get a hobby beside stirring up shit on the internet. Maybe they should try HOT RODDING- I hear it's pretty fun!

[HotRodDrummer]

[ QUOTE ]
This is a good example of why some people have left the HAMB. Some people need to get a hobby beside stirring up shit on the internet. Maybe they should try HOT RODDING- I hear it's pretty fun!

[/ QUOTE ]
I hear that! ( mikey, did you hear that?? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif)

[Smokin Joe]

Germ: The best mechanics are usually the ones who's rides look and sound like they need a tune-up. Seems they're working on everyone else's shit and never get around to their own. That's the guy I want working on mine. Not the guy who's playing with his while mine sits. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I like the guy who built Walmart. Worth millions, and he drove around in an old pickup truck because he liked it. My kind of guy.

Then there's Orange County Choppers. So busy building and displaying their theme bikes they are always complaining about having to get around to customer bikes (After we finish this latest theme bike). I wouldn't let them check my oil, much less build me anything.

When I go to a shop, I want to talk to the old fart with the beat up pickup and greasy overalls. Not the college kid with the tie and pocket protector motoring up in his new Lexus.

A shop truck or a junkyard dog should look like what they are, not a show piece. Having said that, I prefer real patina to fake, but I kinda like the skill involved in doing a good fake. I have a buddy who has a rusty 1914 model T that looks like it's too far gone to save. But it runs like a top and drives great. He built a deck lid for the turtle deck from scratch, then tried rusting it every way he could think of to make it look like the rest of the car. Had more fun trying to rust that perfect lid than he did making it! And that's the point, having fun. He has another T same year and model that looks showroom fresh. He likes parking them side by side at shows like a before and after thing. Only the before one actually runs better than the after one! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Germ]

you ask for an OPINION and you get ONE??

FAKE PATINA is GAY

then KUSTOMBUILDER doesn't like the OPINION. so his vagina gets all wet,,
I imagine that in michigan he might have BUILT you your 350 powered cutlass wagon..

I think the FAKE patina, is GAY...
But hey what do I know,,

AN observation from a CALIFORNIA KUSTOMS PRUDE.
isn't an insult, unless you look at it like that!

germ

[Donzie]

[ QUOTE ]
Ok the TRUCK is UGLY, and your a DUMBASS for making it UGLY......................


FAKE PATINA,,, wow,,,,,,,,, SO COOL,,,,,, sure shows off your BUILDER ability,,,,,,,
Your a HUMP..............................
For making a TRUCK LOOK like that............

and THE other BITCHES from MICHIGAN(tm)...Who lick your ass thinking it's
Cool.... pffft go figure, you live in michigan,,,,,,,,,


[/ QUOTE ]
I don't have a problem with you having an opinion but you don't think that the above statements aren't insulting?
I'm not crazy about some of the things that some people do with their cars but I don't call 'em "gay" or "bitches".
If they ask for an opinion I just give it.

[Hot Rod To Hell]

Hey Matt, after readin' all the bitching and whining everyone's doing, I've changed my mind. At first I thought your truck was really cool, and well done, but now I realize it would only be cool if it was flat black. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
So now you know your truck is gay, and I guess all of us HAMBers that were up in Fmuth are gay too. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Oh... one more thing, hey there critics, are we all gay because we liked Matt's truck, or are we gay because we're from MI? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[HotRodDrummer]

If only I were born in California, then I would be so cool. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Hot Rod To Hell]

Yep. I have to agree with ya Matt. I wish we all could be california girls. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Germ]

Yeah, I like how you carry it on,,,
Nobody got LOUD until the MICHIGAN crew took our OPINIONS personal..

OK your TRUCK looks NEAT, I will call it the DALMATION look......(tm)
GOOD job MAN

And NO we dont need you in california.
we have enough ILLEGALS from FLORIDA here already..
Maybe KUSTOMBUILDER can come out here and SHOW us how to BUILD cars??

WESTCOAST WORLDWIDE

GERM

[4t64rd]

While we are on the subject...

If I paint flames on my car, or should I actually light the thing on fire. Or should I look for one that was on fire once, and not paint it.

I wouldn't want to paint "fake" flames lest being called a gay bitch from Michigan (I was born at Cottage Hospital, Grosse Point, MI).

people have different tastes and ways of expressing themselves, and unless you respect and value the individuals opinion, who the hell cares what anybody thinks or what they think of you.

Now, I think it's time for a group hug.

Threadkiller strikes again.

[Germ]

yeah GROUP HUG, I agree....
as long as KUSTOMBUILDER, holds my hand, and HATCH too...

the FAKE PATINA thing kinda bugs me a little, cause I really TRY and STRIVE to make cars semi NICE, and when I have really serious customers, I try to stay sober and really go the extra mile to make their car special..


adding FAKE PATINA just seems weird..

I guess cause Ive owned several cars that were serious PATINA, and I couldn't wait to get it back from the dipper, and start straightening out panels...

to each his own I guess.....

[kustombuilder]

[ QUOTE ]

Can't we all just get along http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif You folks need to lighten up.... this is suppose to be FUN .... remember??

[/ QUOTE ]


i'm having fun. everything i said is doing just what i expected it to and i think its hilarious. they are the ones who need to lighten up, i'm just playin with em thats all. it was also kind of an experiment. see i posted pics of this truck a couple days before Donzie started this post and not near as many people replied on that thread as this one once i started giving some people a little drama. i know it's just human nature but i find it ammusing.



and Germ, it's not sucking up when you defend your FRIENDS.

[kustombuilder]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
This is a good example of why some people have left the HAMB. Some people need to get a hobby beside stirring up shit on the internet. Maybe they should try HOT RODDING- I hear it's pretty fun!

[/ QUOTE ]
I hear that! ( mikey, did you hear that?? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif)

[/ QUOTE ]


no, he did'nt hear it, he left too. i think he decided his time would be better spent in the garage building hot rods, or one of his buddie's lowrider trucks which he seems to spend way too much time on.

[james]

One thing I can add- out in cali or anywhere in the desert, a car casn sit for 30 years and really ooze patina, paint bleached from the sun, light surface rust, etc, and yet be absolutly solid. In the east the same car would have no floors, no rockers, and holes big enough to stick your hand through all over. Now make it somewhere like michigan where a 3 year old car is severly rusted, and there is no such thing as a useable car with patina. So, I can see why Germ doesn't understand it, yet all the northerners dig it. Just my 2 cents

[kustombuilder]

[ QUOTE ]
Yeah, I like how you carry it on,,,
Nobody got LOUD until the MICHIGAN crew took our OPINIONS personal..

GERM

[/ QUOTE ]


ok come on now. it was'nt the "Michigan crew" it was mostly just ME so don't take it out on the others. they are all great people, i know cause they are my friends.


Mike Brimm

[kustombuilder]

now come on Germ. lets have that hug you big lug http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif!!!

[Germ]

I hugged you already FAG...
haha

[mytlo56]

Man, that truck looks good...except I don't like that the imperfections were airbrushed.

I'm planning on doing something similar w/ a 54 GMC I just picked up. The only difference is I plan to take some wet/dry, a hose, and some elbow grease and go to town. No airbrushing here.

Never-the-less, this guy obviously put some hard work into this thing and kudos to him for trying something a little more unique than the average candy apple red kustom paint job.

[=mike=]

I didnt read anywhere that anything was airbrushed , I think on the first page hot rod drummer says that it was sanded though , in the way you are talking about . thats really the only way you could make a paintjob like that look correct . I think the only things " painted " to look old were the logos .

[Kilroy]

Mike, he said the front fenders were glas but they have "rust" on them... I'm guessing he brushed that in.

I liked that little glas roadster that was making the rounds a couple of years ago with all the fake Patina on it. It made me laugh. I thought it was cool cause I was seeing all these credit rodders parking there boyd rods and trying to find a car with patina to spend a fortune on. I saw it as a poke in the eye to them. But now I see way to many rust buckets on the road that have gone way past "Fagtina" TM and are just POS's. Painting a car to look like that, that you had already had "fixed" and put in primer does seem a little stupid to me.

But what's done is done. If he had asked if it would be cool before he did it, I would have jumped all over the idea. To each his own...

[HotRodDrummer]

[ QUOTE ]
I think the only things " painted " to look old were the logos

[/ QUOTE ]

You are correct, and they were brush painted.


I never intended this to get out of hand, I never said anything negitive or with ill-will.
Your comments are fine germ, I just don't understand the anger behind them....and that's fine too, I don't need to.

The reason we did it is this;
It was flat black wit hred wheels, we bought it that way.
The fenders were just gel coat.
We were bored of it,
We have that truck as a daily, Regret (which by the way is an old race car that hasn't been painted since 69') and we never get time to work on our own stuff. it was fun to do something for our selves.

The thing has dents all over it, we didn't have to worry about hood fit and such.

It was quick, cheap, and most of all fun!

and it feels like for once in three years we can say we did something for ourselves.

Hugs all around,

HRD

[jdubbya]

Hey Matt, stay gay in your michigan way, the truck is kick-ass. That would be my opinion if was from here, Cali or Timbuktoo. Keep on truckin and forget all the negativity, if you like it...thats all that matters!

-Joe

[fuel pump]

Now that's better. Aren't we just one big happy family now.... NOT http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I think it's all Donzie's fault anyway. Why did he have to post those pictures anyway http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[hotrodladycrusr]

[ QUOTE ]
I think it's all Donzie's fault anyway. Why did he have to post those pictures anyway http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

and usually it's Hatch from the TT causing all the crap! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Fat Hack]

I dunno...I got the chance to page through ONE of Matt's photo albums, and I got to see one of his rides in person, and go for a ride in it. Speaks volumes about what he and his Dad are capable of. They got nothing to prove to anyone, and that's the point. They build and drive what they dig and I doubt if they care all that much what naked bikers, or anyone else, thinks of their rides.

I like that in a person!

Call it cocky, rude or indifferent...I call it being cool enough to be your own Man!

Sure, they could've just painted the truck flat blue and had it lettered...drive it in Michigan for two years and it'll look just like that anyway! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif That's what I woulda done...but I respect them for doing it THEIR way!

Aw, shit....HRD don't need anyone to stand up for him...I'm gonna go work on my fuel lines now!

(While the balmy Michigan weather agrees! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

[Donzie]

[ QUOTE ]
yeah GROUP HUG, I agree....
as long as KUSTOMBUILDER, holds my hand, and HATCH too...

the FAKE PATINA thing kinda bugs me a little, cause I really TRY and STRIVE to make cars semi NICE, and when I have really serious customers, I try to stay sober and really go the extra mile to make their car special..

adding FAKE PATINA just seems weird..

I guess cause Ive owned several cars that were serious PATINA, and I couldn't wait to get it back from the dipper, and start straightening out panels...

to each his own I guess.....


[/ QUOTE ]
Ok, who are you and what have you done with Germ?
Actually, after that last reply, I kinda like ya...but not in a gay way. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Donzie]

...and do ya think we've totally insulted anyone on the HAMB that IS gay?!? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Personally, I don't have a problem with gay people, as long as it's 2 women in my bed. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Hot Rod To Hell]

Amen to that Donzie!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[plan9]

hey what the fuck, hug too... my feelings were hurt because some kid called me a ball grabber in the 3rd grade

[=mike=]

hodroddrummer , I think that Germ's comments were directed more at Kustombuilder's retarded shit talking that was aimed at slammit's retartded shit talking . I dont think anything really got out of hand . all of the bitching was aimed at people other than you .

[autocol]

[ QUOTE ]
i'm just playin with em thats all... kind of an experiment...

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah! really playing with their minds aren't you?

this is such a gay thread.

nice truck HRD...

[SLAMIT]

You know this is funny. One guy shows a picture that he knows will stir up shit and bring on opinions. Then when he doesnt get the opinion he is looking for his pussy hurts and he has to "whine" about it and tell everyone not to "whine". I dont get it.

Like I have always said. "Opinions are like assholes, Everybody has one and they dont always smell good."
If you dont want any one to say anything about your FUCKING UGLY GAY ASS WANNA BE PATINA CUTLASS Then dont post a picture.

This reminds me. Has anyone seen those jeans that are like pre dirty. Like someone worked on their car already in them and then you pay lots of money to look like you are dirty. I bet you fake Patina Fuckers wear those while you drive you patina wagon so you can say yeah I worked on it.
I think some one once said that Patina and Vagina Ryme Thats funny.

Germ You are my hero man!
If ever meet you I owe you a Beer.

Later
SLAMIT

[plan9]

i want a beer too...

[BARNETT]

I can't speak for the whole state, but...Detroit rocks...in all kinds of ways.

[HotRodDrummer]

[ QUOTE ]
I can't speak for the whole state, but...Detroit rocks...in all kinds of ways.

[/ QUOTE ]

Boy I wish I lived over ther......
The shit is happnin' http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[mrrocket]

[ QUOTE ]

This reminds me. Has anyone seen those jeans that are like pre dirty. Like someone worked on their car already in them and then you pay lots of money to look like you are dirty.
SLAMIT

[/ QUOTE ]


Laughing my fuckin ass off...jesus, thats a light to view it in...

Art is may be, and real nicely done too, but I just dont get it, no matter how well it is done. Course, im no artists, and am forcing myself to learn, so I can say I am, cause thats cool to be...an artists that is.

[SLAMIT]

You know Mike you are right about the retarded shit talking but It made me feel better after a shitty day at work. Sometimes it is nice to vent. I could have been nice about it but oh well. I still think there is a lot of talent but just not my fake cup of tea. You know one of those cups with the fake cracks painted on to make it look like it was once glued back together.
Sorry I couldnt resist.
SLAMIT

[hatch]

After a shitty day at work, I usually set the cat on fire.

[fuel pump]

Hatch,
Wouldn't DI burn http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif