can you picture it????

[thirtytwo]

alot of rat rodders seem to be trying to be differnt by building these ridiculsly low un-driveable cars, how bout going for something real differnt and shaking things up ....PUT SOME LIGHTS ON THIS THING, AND TERRORIZE THE NEIGHBORHOOD....CAN YOU SEE THIS BAD BOY GOIN DOWN THE STREET !!!!( i bet if it had wings it would fly)

[2tall2beahotrodder]

Some one say Rat Rodder???

[HOTRODPRIMER]

I'll try again is that Barney Oldfield's Golden Sumbmarine? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif HRP

I'm with ya ThirtyTwo!!! There's another one that looks the same. Recreating one for the street would be wild!!
Clark

[prime mover]

well that car looks like it was built like that for the purpose of speed, the rat rods being built today have no purpose in mind.

[mytlo56]

Just my humble opinion, but I think it would be disrespecting a streamliner's heritage to put it on the street. They were purpose built monsters of speed that were designed for one thing and one thing only: The dry lakes. Kind of like running a top fuel car on the street, ya know?

For a good read on these cars (streamliners) check out the book "The Birth of Hot Rodding." Just got it for Christmas and it's worth four times full whatever the asking price is. AMAZING photos.

[Fat ASS Whitewalls]

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I'll try again is that Barney Oldfield's Golden Sumbmarine? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif HRP

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No, this is the Golden Submarine. It's a Miller. built in 1917. It ran at Indy in 1919, Race Record:
Competed in 54 races; 20 wins, 2 seconds 2 thirds. Competed in the 1919 Indy race but did not finish.

[thirtytwo]

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well that car looks like it was built like that for the purpose of speed, the rat rods being built today have no purpose in mind.

[/ QUOTE ] cant argue with truth

[thirtytwo]

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Just my humble opinion, but I think it would be disrespecting a streamliner's heritage to put it on the street. They were purpose built monsters of speed that were designed for one thing and one thing only: The dry lakes. Kind of like running a top fuel car on the street, ya know?

For a good read on these cars (streamliners) check out the book "The Birth of Hot Rodding." Just got it for Christmas and it's worth four times full whatever the asking price is. AMAZING photos.

[/ QUOTE ]...just for the record i was reading a book last night that had this car in it it said "was built by ralf schenck, and called the "screwdriver" ran the old chevy four from his modified in 1940 126.93 mph....the car WAS driven on the street during ww-2 went through 3 owners and was last seen on the lakes in 1949"........ i thought it was butt-ugly the first time i saw pics of it, but everytime i look at it now it gets better and better, truely a remarkable machine for its time....

[alchemy]

I think I saw the Golden Submarine in a wherehouse photo. It's in somebody's secret stash in California. Along with many other significant old racers and hotrods, all unrestored. Anybody know who this is? Anybody remember the article (R&C or Street Rodder a few years ago)?

alchemy

[36couper]

check out the painting Brush did on this car on his website. Look under 'paintings', 'automotive'.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

I never noticed that it says H&H Custom, Redondo Beach on the side of that car before. They are still in business and my dad had his '56 Chevy painted their in High School. Strictly collision now, but great to see another piece of hometown history.

[Petejoe]

Anyone have the real pic of the Screwdriver?? http://www.rahul.net/mcgrew/derby/photos/d89a00.jpg

[Jester]

Whats wrong with rat rodding? Does it have to be fast to be cool? Long live the Rat and remember low slow and 6 in a row.

[toledobill]

As to the current whereabouts of the Golden Submarine, here's what I found on the web --

"At the age of 35, Barney Oldfield had cheated death at the top of his sport long enough and chose to hang up his driving gloves, sell the Sub and invest his time and money in the Firestone Tire & Rubber Company.

Like most race cars out of their prime, the Golden Submarine became a hand-me-down property, eventually being destroyed by fire while stored in a barn in Joliet, Ill., in the early '30s.

In the late '70s, vintage racing enthusiast R.J. "Buck" Boudeman of Hickory Corners, Mich., located an original Miller engine identical to that of the Sub and spent the next several years creating an exact duplicate of the chassis and unusual body. It is this version of the famous car that has been displayed at various events over the last few decades."

[Fat ASS Whitewalls]

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I think I saw the Golden Submarine in a wherehouse photo. It's in somebody's secret stash in California. Along with many other significant old racers and hotrods, all unrestored. Anybody know who this is? Anybody remember the article (R&C or Street Rodder a few years ago)?

alchemy


[/ QUOTE ]I think what you are talking about, are the pictures from when Bruce Meyers bought the So Cal belly tank, out of a warehouse in the LA area. There were, and might still be, some pretty significant cars there, including a streamlinner. I don't think it was the first car pictured here. I'm pretty sure it was the real low, and square one that shows up in old Bonneville photos. I can't remember who's car it was. Dean

[41sled]

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Whats wrong with rat rodding? Does it have to be fast to be cool? Long live the Rat and remember low slow and 6 in a row.

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HELL YA!

[thirtytwo]

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Whats wrong with rat rodding? Does it have to be fast to be cool? Long live the Rat and remember low slow and 6 in a row.

[/ QUOTE ] nothing... some of the rat rods i see are some very intresting and creative cars, but the latest trend is buildin unsafe shit buckets, i counted about 20 trailers at the last hotrod reunion ,..all for rat rods, it was origionally a in-your-face movement against hi-buck cars and trailer queens, i think they have turned into the very thing they dispise, i dont understand buildin a car you cant drive... it might as well be a plastic model

[Jester]

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Whats wrong with rat rodding? Does it have to be fast to be cool? Long live the Rat and remember low slow and 6 in a row.

[/ QUOTE ] nothing... some of the rat rods i see are some very intresting and creative cars, but the latest trend is buildin unsafe shit buckets, i counted about 20 trailers at the last hotrod reunion ,..all for rat rods, it was origionally a in-your-face movement against hi-buck cars and trailer queens, i think they have turned into the very thing they dispise, i dont understand buildin a car you cant drive... it might as well be a plastic model

[/ QUOTE ] I agree trailered cars/trucks suck. Gotta be able to drive it. Makes me sick to see a car/truck trailered to a show. Maybe I don't fully understand what a Rat Rod is though, I wouldn't consider an undriveable automobile to be a "Rat Rod". Seems to me that the Rat supposed to be built as a daily driver or at least a few times a week. I could be wrong and often I am but flat paint does not a rat rod make.

[oldandkrusty]

Hey, ToledoBill-I just recently saw a program on thre Speed Channel about the Brookwood(?) Festival of Speed held every year in England. One of the featured old time racers was the Barney Oldfield Golden Submarine. The owner, Buck Boudeman, was interviewed and did not reference in any way that the car was a repro. He just stated that he had come across the vehicle many years ago and that he had faithfully restored it to it's present condition. Hmmmmm, I wonder what's going on here!