Graphic artist question...Photoshop filters

[Roothawg]

I have asked this question a long time ago but I never really got the answer.

Is there a filter for Photoshop 7 that converts a photo to a line drawing?

Thanks
Root

[Fraz]

What exactly are you wanting when it comes to a line drawing. All the details left, or just the outlines of the body, wheels, etc.?

[Roothawg]

Well, most of the details. I have something I would like a nostalgic feel on and I am not that great of an artist. I am definately not a photoshop guru either.

[Fat Hack]

I use an old program that came with my long gone $30 digital camera to do stuff like that:

<img src=http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid94/pd163705fd4edef332786b76de7461943/fa3ada0d.jpg>

I played with this one a bit to get the effect you see here, but the program has a function that says "effects". Once you click there, you can select "fine art". From there, you can opt for "oil painting", "drawing" or "film grain" and it will convert the image for you.

I use this program to operate my flatbed scanner, and it allows me to have some fun with photos!

[Fat Hack]

Here's the original photo...

<img src=http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid91/p2bba93c263ed720f7819d52482678a50/fa6222f1.jpg>

[Roothawg]

Something like that Hack.
I have a lot of filters but they are like watercolor, charcoal rendering etc. Most are too loose for what I was after. Can't really see the details as much after installing the filter.

[Fat Hack]

Root...post a pic you want done and I'll see what I can do for ya!

[Fraz]

See if you have a filter for "finding the edges" in a pic. Should be in there with the soften and sharpen filters.

[Fat Hack]

Here's a quick sample...converted the photo to black &amp; white by backing the hue down, then used the 'effects' function and 'sketch' option to do a "drawing" of the subject in the photo.

[whizzerick]

Fraz is right, >filter>Stylize>find edges
Experiment with it, you'll be surprised.
Here is a quick 'find edges' + grayscale + cyan:

[Tuck]

there is a program that I use to convert drawings into VECTOR lines its called streamline 4.0 by ADOBE.

[Roothawg]

I was wondering about that Tuck.

[Django]

Root, it depends on the quality level you are hoping for. Post your pic and let us play with it. There are several ways to do it, but just like most things in life, it you want it to look really good, you have to do it yourself. The Hunnercarpileup '03 logo started from a photo, but I redrew it all in photoshop.

[Roothawg]

I find all kinds of vintage pics and think that they would make great flyers etc. but don't have the technical know how to convert em. I don't have the pics here at work. I may try and post em tonight, if I get a chance.

[katzenhammer]

Wow Django you did that in Photoshop! Did you use the pen tool? Tuck hit it right though Streamline is the cats meow for this task.

Justin

[Design Guy]

Root,

Streamline is great for turning photos to vector, resizable line art, but it's not always real easy to get the results you want. If you go that route, just remember to start with an image of immense resolution, at least 800 dpi, but more like 1600 dpi for the best results. It's a memory hog at that point, but a worthwhile time investment if you want a more precise output.

Otherwise, I think Fat Hack has the best approach.

[whizzerick]

True, Streamline will convert scanned line-art into editable bezier curves, but will 'posterize' a grayscale photo.
Django is right, there is no electronic substitute for an artist's time and patience.

[hatch]

arcsoft 2000...cheap program with some nice effects.

[Unkl Ian]

I can get similar effects to what Hatch shows with Corel Photopaint.

[Church]

Dig that you are trying to learn stuff to do with your pics, but never mistake filters for creativity.

[Tuck]

DJANGO----I have the same question katzenhammer has about how you did that in photoshop?? that would take forever w/ the pen tool... damn~

I was just playing a tight drawing off a photo and then useing the pentool/layers to build the final black and white VECTOR image... it takes FOREVER but the end result is worth it... sometimes nothing beats the look the hand can give it... it keeps it from looking too digital

those photoshop filters ruled when i first learned how to use em in college... then it wore off when you could look at a pick and know what filter was used http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif its not really art to me either.

Tuck

[KCsledz]

here is a streamline image. I swithced the contrast 3 different times to get different levels of highlight and shadow.

I find streamline to do the opposite as design guy you can start with a 300 dpi image to do the following style picture. It started as a snapshot that I scanned. A properly vectored image takes up almost no memory at all, well sometimes. How I vector an image I reduce the points after running it through streamline. For simpler things I trace them in illustrator. Once again vectors! But there are many different ways to get to the same point.

[Roothawg]

But you see what I want to do is not art. I am looking for something I can do in a production type setting but no artistic talent. I know what I want, my hands just won't do it. So I have to resort to the "computer generated art".

[Roothawg]

Here's the example I have. I want to cut this out, and use the car with no background then convert to a vector styled drawing.
BTW, thanks to the hamber that posted this pic. I love this pic. It is an inspiration to me. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[59BuickWagon]

Well how's this with the free Irfanview??

http://www.irfanview.com/

Great for doing quick stuff like resizing for the HAMB, but it has a whole bunch of features I've never tried.

[59BuickWagon]

Quicky with Irfanview

[RustNeverSleeps]

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Here's the example I have. I want to cut this out, and use the car with no background then convert to a vector styled drawing.

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Not exactly vector art, but this one is just posterized, smoothed, and then colorized. Doesn't look as cluttered as "find edges" filter and helps to simplify things a bit for press. I used this alot in my screenprinting class, and you can get good results with just three colored inks (t-shirt/paper provides the white) http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[RustNeverSleeps]

The same, but cut out from the bkgrnd and given the "70' style" halo like you see on some t-shirts... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Django]

Yep, the pen tool, the selection tools, and lots of layers. And for the finished art to go to the printer, I run them through streamline so I can send them Illustrator files, and add the type. I tried to do them in Illustrator from the beginning, but for some reason, I work more efficiently in Photoshop for that stuff, yet I work in Illustrator every day. Go figure.

Here's another one I did, for a friend's all girl car club here in Chicago...

The Bondo Bitches (http://www.bondobitches.com/)

[RustNeverSleeps]

Damn Django, that looks pretty tight. Photoshop, Illustrator, whatever... That looks like it to some time and thought. Filters cannot replce the hand of the artist! Cheers! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[RustNeverSleeps]

Oh yeah, and thx for the new desktop art! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Jerry

[Mai Ki-Ki]

10 mins in photoshop...cutting/painting and stuff.

Hope dis helps...

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Roothawg]

Thanks guys. I still am at aloss for what I need. I may hafta draw it manually. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[Fat Hack]

Sloppy, but hey...I'm a HACK!!!

[C9]

Strictly an amateur comment, but how do you think it would work if you got the pic down to a very faint outline, printed it on some quality paper and took pen and ink or pencil to it to bring out the highlights?

Kinda like tracing, only directly on the paper.

[Django]

That's not as "amateur" as you think... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Roothawg]

Hmmmm......good idea C9. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

[surf monkey]

is this the sort of thing you mean

monkey

[Design Guy]

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Dig that you are trying to learn stuff to do with your pics, but never mistake filters for creativity.

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Can I get a BIG AMEN to that?

Django, I want to be in your club because you're logo is so freakin' cool.

[Kevin Lee]

Here's what I started with...

[Kevin Lee]

...here's where I ended up. Sketch, scan, redraw, etc. Maybe what Monkey showed you is close to what you want? Sorry, but I think anything beyond that will have to be drawn by a hand that is attached to someone with an "eye". I'm sure there are plenty of those types here to help you. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif For what it's worth I think the quick and dirty job Monkey could have a decent look in the right context.

[Design Guy]

Nice Job, Grim. Very cool

[Roothawg]

Yeah that's kinda what I am looking for surf.
I have a buddy that does T shirts and I thought if I made my own designs and had the screens burned he could pull the ink for me. I just need to lose a lot of the blotchiness, if that's a word. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[surf monkey]

you can lose or add as much `blotchiness` as you want...it`s all done by taking the original image and changing the `threshold`....if the final image is pixellated, just print it out and smooth the edges with a thin marker...

heres one more