Goodbye, HAMB

[av8]

This old guy is out of here. I tried to responed to one of the HAMBS's favorite folk, JimA, but Ryan would not let me speak unkindly about the wonderful JimA. My comments were blocked again and again. JimA, of course, is permitted to say whatever he chooses to say.

[Tman]

Before you go running off Mike, I would talk to Ryan and get the real scoop. I dont think he was censoring you. If anything he would kick out Jim first. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Deuce Rails]

I don't know what happened.

All I do know is that you're a great source of inspiration. Remember this post? (http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=239099)

Don't pack up your toys and refuse to play now!

--Matt

[FWilliams]

now THIS sucks.

[choprods]

Hang around man- its all good.....it'll get better.

[DrJ]

Hey Mike.
I see this post;
"Let's see if I get this -- JimA discovers some neat concept years after it was accepted by the folk for whom it was intended, and slow Jim gets credit for the wonderfulness of his late discovery. Is that about right?"

By you on that thread.
Was there more?
You sure it's just not a glitch in the system at one end or the other made your post go away?

I doubt Ryan edited your post, if he did he'd say so as he always has in the past.

[19Fordy]

Hang around cause when the going get's tuff, the tuff get going. Your're tuffer than that and have much to contribute.

[hotrodladycrusr]

I don't have a clue as to what the fuck is going on but I'm not a happy camper hearing this! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Zeke]

If Ryan is actually censoring you I doubt you'd be the only one to go. Honestly I really don't think that's the case. Ryan can speak for himself.

Now I have had in the past thread responses that I posted never show up. It happened a couple of times for what it's worth.

[Dirty Dug]

Say it ain't so

[scarliner]

Av8, I have'nt been here all that long,but I have become familiar with your posts and it seems to me that you are a hot rodder at heart and know your stuff.I would hate to see you leave,due to these facts.Surely what ever the problem is,it can be worked through.Stick around,theres a lot of good here.

[dondanno]

I dont know whats up, but I am with dirty dawg on this one...Danny

[shoebox72]

I think it was just a technical glitch, If Ryan edited the post would'nt it say so at the bottom of the post? Don't jump the gun AV8, I'm sure there is a reasonable explanation.

Billy

[Rooster]

I can say for the record that I'VE been censored in the past. I ALSO have the conviction of my own thoughts and THE SENSE OF HUMOR to accept that I DO NOT OWN THE RIGHTS TO THIS BOARD and sometimes may say things which are Unacceptable, due to these convictions. I am a mere participant. I accept without reservation, Ryan's right to clean up any offensive language or modify a reply. ALL posters at this site are or should be aware of this. I would assume, aV8 would be. It would be sad to see him leave, but we ALL know that this "garage" is somewhat of a a commnity affair, should try not to start flame wars, and respect it's owners right to manage it.

[286merc]

Mike, give it a rest please. You pulled the same sympathy gambit on RRT not too long ago and on the Fordbarn before that.
You are a top source of info and guidance but way too sensitive about little shit for crissakes.

So there I said it; stick around and quit whining!
Besides there arent many places left to go that are worth anythinghttp://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

So go ahead and holler at me and get it out of your system. I forget which one of us is older? I turned 63 on the 13th.

[Tman]

Rooster, ya dumbass.........you have never been censored if Ryan did not come out and say he deleted a post from you.

[Curly]

I have posted or made a reply to a post and know that I have hit the send button to never see the message hit the board. I never thought Ryan had deleted/blocked or censored me. I always assumed that my message is floating somewhere in cyberspace? I have seen replies to questions come in before the actual question made it to the board???? I'm sure it is just a glich in the system. If not...this is a real PISSER! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

AV8 have you talked to Ryan about this or is this just an assumption? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Rooster are you sure you are the same guy I met in Swanton? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[yorgatron]

you need to lighten up a bit and quit being such a grouch.you've lashed out at people (myself included) for real and imagined slights many times in the past.if all you want out of the hamb is to get your ass kissed then by all means leave.jimA has suffered far,far more abuse than you ever have or will,and he sticks it out with sense of humor intact-george

[burndup]

Just because JimA can't stand on his own two legs doesn't mean he should have any help.

HINT! HINT!

Mr Bishop, you're not going anywhere, thats an order! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[El Caballo]

Mike Bishop, stand down and cool off. Please do not go away.

[Skate Fink]

Ryan has always seemed to be a VERY fair guy. I doubt that he has busted anyone's chops for no reason. I'm sure it all must be a misunderstanding......hang around!

[Levis Classic]

aV8 - Please dont leave - you are a inspiration to many. After reading your book I was obsessed with building many traditional hot rods. You are a HUGE source of knowledge and we would be VERY saddened to see you leave. Talk to Ryan and find out the scoop.

[hatch]

Baby please don't go...baby please don't go...baby please don't go, down to New Orleans...cuz I love ya so...baby please don't go......The preceding announcement was NOT for AV8....I just like the song.

[Rooster]

T-Man et al, polease The REAL issue here is helping Mike Bishop accept that sometimes we say things... We should all TRY to get along, despite occasional personal differences. Ryan and I had a laugh over the singular time, among many I wish I'd have HAD an editor, and somehow the "PhoneBITCH" wasn't a party to it. I remember a line way back, check yer ego at the door, and welcome...


[ QUOTE ]
Rooster, ya dumbass.........

[/ QUOTE ] So let's just leave that as a mutually returnable sentiment.

[sodbuster]

Mike,

I alway's look foward to what you post and I sometimes miss a few so that I have to "Search" your name to find stuff that I missed.

[ QUOTE ]
It was a great idea and has been a very successful "experiment/exercize", Ryan. I've been dazzled by so many neat threads, from ideas to fully fledged projects, with some excellent methods and tips along the way.

I confess to having nothing important to offer because everyone has already seen all my "white rabbits" and I'm a week away from an interesting, fresh how-to that I've planned to post in a series of related threads very soon.

The HAMB is truth and beauty! The HAMB lives!



[/ QUOTE ]

Chris Nelson
Kansas

[WZ JUNK]

Please take some time to think about this problem. I have seen many cases of misunderstandings on the internet. Most of the problems were caused by people who do not communicate their thoughts well when typing. I value your insight and your knowledge and I do not want to lose it.

[Unkl Ian]

Some of us decide which threads to read based on the subject line.
On select occasions,I will read the thread,or ignore it,based on who posted it.
I always make a point of reading AV8's posts.

Your friends will miss you Mike.

[JamesG]

This is really bumming me out..... Come on guys its only three days till Christmas!

[Homeresque]

Jeezus what an EGO!

[Flatdog]

Mike, I really hate to see you leave here, but I also understand that a man has to do what he feels he must do. You're one of the reasons I landed here, I'll personally miss you.

[Honest]

When I go out ..im wearing my "goodbye cruel world" shirt...and
I think ill sit beside a rock pile and use a slingshot to do it!

[Phil Stevens]

Aw hell, please reconsider, I think we've all copped a bit of abuse from someone at some time, I even got some from Germ and lived to fight another day!
Besides, now you've made Denise swear, I'm shocked. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[Gracie]

Ryan,
Here is a little lesson that I knew would come around eventually. When you censor (and you do) even just a little bit, folks will get the sense that you do it more and more. THAT'S WHY all along I said to just let people post what they want, and if it is b.s. then the MASSES will take care of it! In this playground fight I'll always take the side of AV8!

Ooooh, it's the Paragons meets the Jesters all over again. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[gettingreasy]

Actually Tman, when I first came to this board I had 2 posts deleted with know message from Ryan saying why. Sure one was a want ad and another about mopar shift kits but nobody replied for about a day and a half and poof gone, no ryhm nor reason.
-Jesse

[raaf]

i have a hard time believing ryan would edit/change a post. delete the whole thing... sure.

[Brother Bob]

Its Ryans House.
I have learned many things from this forum ......but its Ryan's garage and we are just shootin' the bull in his garage. AV8 you are a wealth of knowledge and I am sure Ryan has his reasons, thats good nuff' for me.

[Roothawg]

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[JamesG]

Anybody care for a cold one? I'm buying!

[296 V8]

WHATS BIG CHIEF RYAN GOT TO SAY ABOUT THIS?

[Curly]

[ QUOTE ]
Anybody care for a cold one? I'm buying!

[/ QUOTE ]

I thought you were still grounded? I almost replied to your first post but didn't because the issue at hand was bigger than your 30 day quiet period. It was also nice that you did say something nice and it was constructive. But now your offering cold ones and you're buying? You should have snuck that one post in and left it at that..... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Cadillacin Marcus]

Yeah I know the feeling!!!But I won't go there...Sorry to see ya go you are an accept to this forum..Keep in touch..

[**DONOTDELETE**]

[ QUOTE ]
Just because JimA can't stand on his own two legs doesn't mean he should have any help.

[/ QUOTE ]

Say what? I'm standing JUST FINE! Mike sucker punched me on MY POST first and I responded. I asked that my post be removed it it was a problem. I never asked for Mike to be censored, but if he wants to take a shot I'm gonna take one back. If that sends him running - bottom line is HE STARTED IT. See ya in a week Mike like the last couple times you signed off for good. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Mai Ki-Ki]

http://www.fife.k12.wa.us/fifeweb/discovery/techwebsite/images/kindergarten.jpg

[roadstar]

This is the reason tech week was so good.

[Cadillacin Marcus]

Mike dont leave man..I've been sitting here thinking about this and it upsets me.I think evryone thats been on this board for as long as you have,has and will take some shit from time to time that really gets under your skin.Just vent it out and let it go...I think your a cool guy and I know I speak for the majority that know you.Anyways its up to you,but I think your giving up and in too easy.. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[bobbleed]

You guys are a bunch of fucking homos.

[Design Guy]

well, that's direct.

[SDHusker1]

Can't we all just get along! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Ryan]

I NEVER BLOCKED ANYTHING MIKE HAD TO SAY! I haven't been here all weekend... Jesus... Like a bunch of fucking kids...

[SwitchBlade327]

I'm gone for a few days and see what happens? I'm with bobleed on this one. I've never had goddamn motherfucking shit censored on here, and I don't think Ryan would do anything like that. He might delete it, or say something to you about it, but not just change your post. If he did that I think it would've came up before. Now I'm going to post a problem i have and hopefully I"ll get some help even though the board has gone back to soap opera posts.

[Ryan]

Well, ain't this a mess?

Censoring... It happens on occassion... Like when the homepage has too much Off Topic posts and what not. And sometimes I play around with my buddies and edit their pages... Contrary to what some of the scenesters think, I don't edit posts to destroy their social lives - promise. Sometimes the board hicups and your posts don't make it. My coding isn't perfect, so the board does mess up on occassion...

So, Mike is leaving? That sucks. He was a great source of information and the HAMB will miss him. Anyone have his email so I can atleast send him an email and let him know how I feel?

[Tman]

Just tell Keith to slap some sense into him!

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Now that YOU weren't the one, I'm gonna go run and cry since MY post was locked http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Who's the favorite now Mikey? Looks like it's you!

[Ryan]

Jim, you are real close to getting you and your magazine kicked out of here. I don't mind you sticking up for yourself, but if you continue to instigate more bullshit after more bullshit I am going to ask you to leave...

Who is my favorite???? Germ.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

No problem, but for the record- I don't bring "my magazine" here. It's people like "johnny cola" saying I should be more diplomatic as "Mr. Goodguy" i.e. we spit on you and you roll-over and take it. I was never trying to start some drama today- just ask what people really like as much as I like Hop Up & The HAMB. If that gets me booted oh well. I'll probably be out for good once you see the picture of you cruisin' in to MY Kansas event in MY MAGAZINE in your '38.

[Lionheart]

Jimbo--I mean JUMBO, All i know is 2 weeks ago you sold me a pair of aluminum valve covers (that were suppose to be in GOOD cond) and one had a CRACK in it and you gave me nothin but shit when i emailed you about it.
You told me that NOBODY on the HAMB would believe me if i would say anything about it here, because you are so popular and i'm a relative newbie.
You'r to big for you'r britches, literally, and i don't think the HAMB needs LIARS.
I ended up with your busted up parts and took alot of crap from you and i don't think people like you deserve to be on here.
Ca-mon Jim, give me some more of your shit, just cause i was dumb enough to think you were honest. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif Lanny

[Skate Fink]

[ QUOTE ]
I NEVER BLOCKED ANYTHING MIKE HAD TO SAY! I haven't been here all weekend... Jesus... Like a bunch of fucking kids...

[/ QUOTE ]

....told 'ya so.....told 'ya so..... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[fuel pump]

Well HAPPY F*#&ING HOLIDAYS to you all too! What is this a Jerry Springer family show. Grow up guys and talk hot rods. Check yer egos at the door.
Bring on another tech week.

[Petejoe]

[ QUOTE ]
All i know is 2 weeks ago you sold me a pair of aluminum valve covers (that were suppose to be in GOOD cond) and one had a CRACK in it and you gave me nothin but shit when i emailed you about it.
You told me that NOBODY on the HAMB would believe me if i would say anything about it here, because you are so popular and i'm a relative newbie.


[/ QUOTE ]
Jim is this true?? The problem with this board is you can't view peoples eyes when statements like this are made. That surely doesn't mean I dismiss it. What's with this now for Gods sake?

[4t64rd]

Have fun Kirk.

[Bugman]

If I disappeared, no one would notice, but you're important here Mike.

[oldandkrusty]

Well, what the f#*k!!! I read AV8's original post and his later post apologizing and I still think that Ryan's post summing up the whole mess is dead-nuts accurate. Just like a bunch of fucking kids!!!! Get a grip, will you. Life is way to short to gets your boxers so bunched up that it cuts off the flow of oxygen to your brain.

[SwitchBlade327]

so JimA is gone now? I remember seeing an anonymous post saying taht late last night, but now it's gone? ah fuck it, if i wanted this much drama I'd start dating 14 year olds.

[Ryan]

We are done with this post...