AV8's book, missing pages request

[4t64rd]

I bought a copy of How to Build a Traditional Hot Rod and the first 16 pages were duplicated and the next 16 were missing.

I have since ordered another, but I want one kept nice and one for the shop.

Could somebody scan pages 16-33 and email them to me, or photocopy and send them to me?

In return, I could design you a quick logo or flyer or send you a chicken salad sandwich C.O.D.

[atch]

46,

not being a smart a$$ here. really i'm not. shouldn't you contact vern or mike or the publisher first? i bet they would rather send you a new book than for someone to be scanning pages.

[av8]

4t64rd e-mailed me to ask if I minded if he had pages copied and sent to him. Of course not, but as atch says, the first level of resort should be the publisher or the book seller.

I don't want to be an asshole about this, but I'm not responsible for the bad book you received. I thought we had this handled with your PM and my response, but that was apparently not as much satisfaction as you required.

I will scan and transmit all of the pages you did not get. Please remember that I'm not doing this because I failed to deliver in the first place. I'll honor my agreement to you in spite of you taking this to a wider audience.

[Digger_Dave]

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4t64rd e-mailed me to ask if I minded if he had pages copied and sent to him. Of course not, but as atch says, the first level of resort should be the publisher or the book seller.

I don't want to be an asshole about this, but I'm not responsible for the bad book you received. I thought we had this handled with your PM and my response, but that was apparently not as much satisfaction as you required.

I will scan and transmit all of the pages you did not get. Please remember that I'm not doing this because I failed to deliver in the first place. I'll honor my agreement to you in spite of you taking this to a wider audience.

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46, by the sounds of your request, the "blame" for the missing pages is the publishers; NOT av8's!

Being in the publishing business, I can assure you the problem was at the printing level. Even with all the attemps at "quality control" some times "shit happens."

You might not realize it, but your violating copyright laws by even making the request.

I would say you should take the problem up with the person/bookseller that you got the book from. Ask them for a REPLACEMENT or a refund.

Don't make Mike out to be the bad guy.

Sounds like av8 already tried to help and all you have done is embarassed Mike and Vern by bringing it to the HAMB.

[shoebox72]

WTF, No wonder the guy bailed out.

Billy

[CherryBlossom]

It's amazing how things can be interpreted...the thought of laying blame on Av8 never even crossed my mind....nor would have entered my mind if someone hadn't stated so.

It's crazy how everyone can take an opinion and run with it.

[RileyRacing]

I agree, no where (unless it was in the PM) did 46 BLAME av8. He simply asked someone else to send him the missing pages. Maybe it's just holiday stress.

Liten up Francis'!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


Jay

[Curly]

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It's amazing how things can be interpreted...the thought of laying blame on Av8 never even crossed my mind....nor would have entered my mind if someone hadn't stated so.

It's crazy how everyone can take an opinion and run with it.



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Ditto... I went back and read it again and I didn't see any fingerpointing...but then again I'm about as sharp as a bowling ball.

[34Fordtk]

I saw no finger pointing.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

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I don't want to be an asshole about this

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Of course not, you saved that for my post. THANKS Grumpy! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[roadstar]

Hey Jim, You and Mike better stop fighting or you guys are going to the princibles office http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[autocol]

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Liten up Francis'!!

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can someone tell me where this quote is from? it comes up all the time and i have no idea what it's from...

[Ryan]

I find this post amazingly ironic...

[RileyRacing]

Tis from stripes... Sgt. Hulka to the guy from NYC.

Jay

[4t64rd]

I guess I need to come back and explain...

I bought AV8's book off of a guy on egay

I received it and noticed that the first 16 pages were duplicated and the next 16 were missing, common problem, binding machine pulls 2 imposed pages from a stack and misses the next imposed page. Shit happens.

I thought that the egay fella might be getting the throw aways from the printer (some printers may try to sell off "seconds" on the flea market-type circuit). so I PMed Mike to give him a heads up. I also emailed the egay guy and asked him what he wanted to do about it.

Then I ordered a new book from a respectable source (Amazon) and thought, hey, I could keep one nice in the house and one greasy copy in the shop.

So I PMed him again and asked permission to post for the missing pages. I respect copyrights.

In the mean time, they egay fella refunded the money for the book. he said that was the only copy he had of the book, ruling out my ealier suspicion, it was just a isolated bindery screw up.

Unless AV8 owns the bindery, I don't see how he could be offended. I thought I was doing him a favor (pointing out somebody ripping him off) and being respectful by asking permission to copy his property.

Mr. Bishop, I apologize for being impatient and asking you first, I should've called the publisher after waiting forn the egay guy's response. I had access to you via the computer, so that's were I went first.

[Dreamweaver]

WOW and here I thought most of the gentlemen on this board were at least old enuff to drive.

Come on guys, lighten up, it's not like we are married to each other.

A bit of poetry we (not just HAMBERs) should live by:

All I ever needed to know, I learned in Kindergarten

Most of what I really need to know about how to live, and what to do, and how to be, I learned in kindergarten. Wisdom was not at the top of the graduate school mountain, but there in the sand box at nursery school.


These are the things I learned. Share everything. Play fair. Don't hit people. Put things back where you found them. Clean up your own mess. Don't take things that aren't yours. Say you are sorry when you hurt somebody. Wash your hands before you eat. Flush. Warm cookies and cold milk are good for you. Live a balanced life. Learn some and think some and draw some and paint and sing and dance and play and work everyday.


Take a nap every afternoon. When you go out in the world, watch for traffic, hold hands, and stick together. Be aware of wonder. Remember the little seed in the plastic cup? The roots go down and the plant goes up and nobody really knows how or why. We are like that.


And then remember that book about Dick and Jane and the first word you learned, the biggest word of all: LOOK! Everything you need to know is there somewhere. The Golden Rule and love and basic sanitation, ecology, and politics and the sane living.


Think of what a better world it would be if we all, the whole world, had cookies and milk about 3 o'clock every afternoon and then lay down with our blankets for a nap. Or we had a basic policy in our nation and other nations to always put things back where we found them and clean up our own messes. And it is still true, no matter how old you are, when you go out in the world, it is best to hold hands and stick together.



--- Robert Fulghum


VIVA LA HAMB

[Digger_Dave]

46, I owe you an appology.

Not knowing the circumstances, I should have "backed off."

But like I said, asking for copies of someones "copyrighted" material gets my "back up."

I have had it happen to me too many times.

Again; sorry for "ripping a strip off you."

I hope if anyone else finds incomplete copies of any book that they notify the publisher first.