View Full Version : please help identify some random old car parts from my garage
burger
12-18-2003, 10:51 PM
I spent some time earlier this week cleaning out my garage, and found a lot of stuff that I can't identify. Most of it likely comes from a '34 Ford truck or a '46/'47 Ford truck.
1. Here's the first part up for identification... a steering box, column and wheel. The wheel is beat and the column has a little patina problem, but the box looks OK on the inside. It's all messy from when I tore into it for inspection.
http://home.earthlink.net/~edmurder/SteeringBox1.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~edmurder/SteeringBox3.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~edmurder/SteeringWheel.jpg
(Don't worry about Ryan's bandwidth -- all of these pictures are stored on my Earthlink site.)
2. Next up is an old air cleaner. The neck is sized to fit a 97/94 carb.
http://home.earthlink.net/~edmurder/AirCleaner1.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~edmurder/AirCleaner2.jpg
3. Anyone know what this hubcap is from? The first obvious clue is the Chevy logo, and the second is that it's sized to fit a wire rim.
http://home.earthlink.net/~edmurder/ChevyHubcap1.jpg
4. I think this is a horn.
http://home.earthlink.net/~edmurder/Horn1.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~edmurder/Horn2.jpg
5. Flathead head of unknown vintage...
http://home.earthlink.net/~edmurder/Flathead1.jpg
6. '39 pedal assy maybe?
http://home.earthlink.net/~edmurder/PedalAssy.jpg
7. What year are these radius rods from? They're hollow if that helps?
http://home.earthlink.net/~edmurder/RadiusRods1.jpg
8. What year are these split bones? (The shitty welding isn't my handywork)
http://home.earthlink.net/~edmurder/SplitBones1.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~edmurder/SplitBones3.jpg
9. How 'bout this spring? It fits nicely into a Model A frame..
http://home.earthlink.net/~edmurder/Spring1.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~edmurder/Spring2.jpg
10. I think this tranny is a '46 or '47 truck tranny, whichever years came with the open banjo.
http://home.earthlink.net/~edmurder/Trans1.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~edmurder/Trans2.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~edmurder/Trans3.jpg
Thanks in advance for any help received.
Deuce Roadster
12-19-2003, 12:08 AM
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I believe that the steering column would be 46-47 not 34....
34's were not column shift and the horn wire out the bottom eliminates the 34 ID.
Just my 2 cents.....
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Rocky
12-19-2003, 12:17 AM
Not sure what year the pedals are but I need a pair for my 36 chevy pickup project...wanna sell 'em?
DoubleClutch
12-19-2003, 12:23 AM
The steering wheel and shift look alot like my 40 merc. They probably used the same design for a few years though!
I'll give it a try
Airfilter late 30's look on bottom for a prefix. That will identify it.
Horn 34-35 maybe
Head 49-53
Rear rod 33/34
Front rod model A
Spring 40 front
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littledeucecoupe427
12-19-2003, 02:14 AM
The horn is from the 34 ford.
fordnutz
12-19-2003, 02:42 AM
41-48 ford or merc passenger columm
41-48 air cleaner
33-34 horn
tommy
12-19-2003, 07:51 AM
The trans is a Ford truck trans (open drive shaft) 42?-47
RileyRacing
12-19-2003, 07:55 AM
hubcap 3 looks like a late 60's early 70's vintage chevy truck...
Jay
TooMany2count
12-19-2003, 10:04 AM
steering column, air cleaner, spring, tranny, head & pedals are from the 46-47 ford truck-- I had one
hub cap -- couldnt tell ya
horn & wish bones -- well they're not off the 46-47 truck, so I'll say ur 34 truck...........joe
magnet
12-19-2003, 10:17 AM
that flathead... 8ba... '49-'51 ford motor... passenger side
Elrod
12-19-2003, 10:22 AM
That air cleaner looks like it is a chrysler product to me. 36-42 ish.
fordnutz
12-19-2003, 11:59 AM
Did 46-47 trucks have column shift?
I don't know what any of that stuff goes to for sure
but, when I was looking at them last night the old lady came in to see what was so interesting that I couldn't sit on the couch and watch some sappy movie with her.
when she saw, she just shook her head and walked out.
what's up with that??
Paul
NealinCA
12-19-2003, 12:32 PM
On the spring, what is the width, 2", 2-1/4", 2-1/2"?
On the front wishbone, what is the measurement at the perch, 2" or 2-1/4"?
The steering gear/column is Ford car, I would guess 40-48.
The transmission, as stated before is Ford p/u 42-47.
Neal
burger
12-19-2003, 01:00 PM
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I don't know what any of that stuff goes to for sure
but, when I was looking at them last night the old lady came in to see what was so interesting that I couldn't sit on the couch and watch some sappy movie with her.
when she saw, she just shook her head and walked out.
what's up with that??
Paul
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My friend who helped me take the pictures is not a car guy. Not in any way. I usually fix his Toyota while he drinks my beer. Anyway, he was incredulous that not only did I own and value these parts, but I was taking pictures of them and other people on the internet would care and covet these rusted and antiquated pieces of (in his eyes) junk.
Some people.
Anyway.... I'm pretty sure that column and box came from a 46/7 truck. If so, would the steering box then be the desirable F-1 unit?
Thanks for all your replies,
Ed
burger
12-19-2003, 01:02 PM
PS- I have the open banjo rear that goes behind the trans. Anyone know for certain what year those rears were offered in?
NealinCA
12-19-2003, 01:06 PM
It is possible that the column did come out of a 47 truck, but it didn' tbegin its life there. My brothers 41 p/u had a 40 car column shift in it when he got it.
The steering gear shown is a cross steer unit. The F-1 box is a side steer, and they are 48-51.
If those front wishbones measure 2" at the perch, I could use them.
Is this stuff for sale?
Neal
The open banjo was in pickups from 42-47. Most seem to be 3.78 gears, but the are stamped on the bottom of the center section behind the pinion yoke.
fordnutz
12-19-2003, 03:36 PM
The big bell on the column tube just below the wheel goes to a 41-48 passenger car. Haven't seen a truck with column shift in 46-47, but I have sold a lot of 41-48 passenger columns in my ford parts biz. The truck had a small end on it under the wheel and no shift linkage. I don't know much, but have had 46-8 fords for 35 years. The tranny is definitely pickup --- Fordnutz
wideglide74
12-20-2003, 02:18 AM
Dibs on the horn if it's available. Just the ticket for my 34 pu...
Mr 42
12-20-2003, 03:24 AM
The steering box is for an 42-48 passenger car.
The steering wheel is late 46-48 42-early 46 had some stainless parts dividing the bars to make a two colour steering wheel .
The frame its resting on is a Chevy (27) ;-)
The aircleaner is around 35-36 my guess 36.
Hub cap 32 Chevy ?
The horn is a 35-36 I think its an 36 actually. The opening differ
The head is a 8Ba right side.
The pedal with the brakecylinder is a 42-48 Ford.
The other pedal is a chevy my guess at least I would say non Ford
The single wishbone I say it’s a Model A bolt on type.
The split wishbone is a pre 37 Ford. I’m guessing a bit here must be before 41.
My guess on the spring is that it’s a 42-48 front spring, I have to measure mine to be 100% sure.
The gear box is a pickup gear box 41-48. That housing, with the internal parts form a 42-48 passenger car will make the best 39 box in the world, above the inspection opening the VIN number is stamped, that can give you more specific info about when it was used. And in the lower rear there is a cast number starting with 78
donkiepuncher
01-24-2004, 06:29 PM
who gives a shit, its all junk?
haring
01-24-2004, 11:29 PM
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who gives a shit, its all junk?
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rodrelic
01-25-2004, 08:44 AM
Yeah it's all junk, toss it out in the ditch by the mailbox, it'll be gone in the mourning. Oops, it's 450 miles away. The pedals go to the '39, only year for the clutch to have no belcrank. Where is the pin that go's through the pedals with the clutch arm on it? They are gold, going for over $100 on ebay complete. Top shift trans is from pickup to '48, last year of the banjo, cars were all torque tube until then, '49 everything was conventional open driveshaft. Oil bath is the same as my '37. Model A wishbones look like a hacked off tie rod shoved in the end, I used Speedway bungs and rod ends, look twice as stout. Good swapping stuff if you aren't going traditional. I could always use another tranny...
never throw nuthin away
rodrelic
01-25-2004, 02:47 PM
Correction, I believe the brake pedal, master and bracket are '39. missing is the clutch pedal and shaft with the clutch lever. I believe the loose pedal with the hole on the back side takes a clevice that go's to a belcrank for cable(37-8) or rod (pre 37) brakes. Still good parts to have, not too tough to make the missing shaft and drill and pin that other pedal to it. Maybe use the clevice hole to attach a starter safety switch linkage?
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