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Buick59
12-12-2003, 09:18 AM
Well don't know if this will get the boot or not but here goes. You might recognize some of these cars.

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UgDYAuAZQEEhoXf*DtSA4ahzo0hezTY7QTx0uxhsQerLF4CNd CmZD*ftCHXzfL9XzfysL5tBqfb2Qwam!We!VrSRPjGyzsVqlyr ti7W5r9NLVYBYAkEaPAdXOdt*iiEU/bv1%20color.jpg

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UgDYAuMZKkLbck4WpnI*heQEu1LC36pniOYms6yBMBQYhuT2S cfO0gjxYXQZmvgfFAdtkhd9cUBf*pox4iuMp3GED*o0CZOB7lp pyKVBlAyT!nY3t0e3UHyTDMRt*uMt/bv4%20color.jpg

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UgC*AuUZxkJzTVIq36MV9tf7ywKTvRns75vV53cL5beY8hOJ0 8chi25iv1OWFvqz0F74F!ymf6GEOgSoZE0eutBazD6BR0wIKPw ukUmdOUJSVtdyjl**nDnW!7E0HcJA/bv6%20color.jpg

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TQDOArsY!OMB7s6WJUOoGr2ehpoJ9UyiRMf0YrzixeTWyeGJZ gPmc5vKtua90u2RNyySBf2peGtZhOiwdknKcUWa5C72c5!HRAJ YDt3F2GDe8WbD8rqHPA/clouds.jpg

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TgDYAu0YsvQB7s6WJUOoGsvqW8ouMM4qpFFiXU94L0iqlAIeG Id*IcsGnsDzn1l!Znd0!mmqIv0Pd4ZleIkT4p3s1WzWbLUGok4 xpnhIV0ZaIZAn4Jr6*g/clouds2.jpg

MattStrube
12-12-2003, 09:22 AM
The last two are bitchin...I love the lighting....How did you take that picture?

Buick59
12-12-2003, 09:28 AM
With a camera!

saltflataddict
12-12-2003, 09:28 AM
Very Nice Mike!!

hamilton
12-12-2003, 09:35 AM
those pics kick all ass!!!!!!

here's a piece I did up for the Houston Monster Rally last weekend. The pic doesn't really show all of the bells & whistles. There's neon behind the acrylic and the flesh lites up! Scary sh_t!

Jeff Norwell
12-12-2003, 09:43 AM
Fantastic shots Mike...love the salt as a BG!....HAMI....yer the best!by the way,I forgot to mention I did an ART TRADE with Trickee Rickee Amado coupla weeks back...he sent me some ultra kool BW/ shots of paso this past year.....A very hot shooter as well!
Keep it coming guys ...great stuff! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

bdrake
12-12-2003, 10:10 AM
I have wanted to do this black on black five-window for a while and finally had the free time this week to do it. Now if I can find my magic wand to bring it life I would be set.

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~bill/Images/Hamb/bdrake32.jpg

Jeff Norwell
12-12-2003, 10:38 AM
BILL!!!!!! THAT IS FREAK'IN DROP DEAD KILLER..... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gifKiller talent there buddy....got a website? REAL SUPER FINE http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Cword
12-12-2003, 11:01 AM
I got my Friday art kick off in the mail last night.

In the form of a hot rod Christmas card (Norwell 2003) from a rodder on Ontario.

Nice work Brush

Jeff Norwell
12-12-2003, 11:17 AM
Thanks Mike.....You and your B-VILLE team are my heroes.....I know your gonna hit 215 and beyond!!!.....Love to be your water boy.

flatlandman
12-12-2003, 11:23 AM
Didn't have time be creative this week yet. Just a logo design for some shirts I going do up. Pix from last weekends adventures might be done later.
Cword, how's life treating you in C-town?

Rolf
12-12-2003, 11:24 AM
That's great work all of you. Bill, what media do you work in?

Cword
12-12-2003, 11:27 AM
Brush,

Then come on out and play next summer. We'd love to have you along.
In fact, wanna have some Bonneville fun?
I just got 100 plastic pith helmets. (old band uniform stock from my son's high school) I'm taking a dozen or so over to a local rodder/artist (Darren Haley, wildlife painter and 41 Ford custom builder) this weekend. Would you like some to mess with?

I'll add a couple of my B'ville photo's to this weeks collection.
http://www.fsra.org/hamb/116-1656_img.jpg

http://www.fsra.org/hamb/115-1543_img.jpg

mike

PS Bill, the five window is gorgeous.

delaware george
12-12-2003, 11:37 AM
i hope the art show stays..here's a panel i just sent to flat-top-bob

flatlandman
12-12-2003, 11:41 AM
And the bar gets raised alittle higher this week with Bill and George's work!
Doing stripping like that would have been great tech!
I'd KILL to be able to learn that...

Buick59
12-12-2003, 11:45 AM
bdrake that is so damned amazing!!!!! Do you have prints for sale or trade? SHEEEIIIT. That is one fine piece O' art.

Mike

BARNETT
12-12-2003, 11:47 AM
Damn! The art is outta site this week...even better than the usual top notch showing!!! Here's my first striped tiki face. It's on a metal flake panel mounted on bamboo type stuff and framed...and once again my pic shows the difference between my photography and GOOD photography! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

saltflataddict
12-12-2003, 11:57 AM
Barnett- thats too cool. Is it for sale??

lostparts
12-12-2003, 11:59 AM
great stuff as always.
friday art show kills, please don't give it the boot!!!

safariknut
12-12-2003, 12:01 PM
Great stuff as usual guys.Bill that Deuce is FABULOUS!
Posting a pic of a panel I started last week and finally finished.The second pic is a closeup of the eyes.The third is something I did over last winter from some scrap stock around.The brush is made from 1" wooden dowel and pine shim stock wrapped with electrical wire.The last pic is of another one I did also.

safariknut
12-12-2003, 12:02 PM
A closeup of the panel

safariknut
12-12-2003, 12:04 PM
A large size striper

safariknut
12-12-2003, 12:05 PM
And another

candyman
12-12-2003, 12:08 PM
This is a conga that was painted as a gift to me from my friend Mike "da lonewolf" Baker. I will try and post a picture and a link for those who wish to see more of the drum.
http://www.geocities.com/redrocketkitty/wolf.html

Nads
12-12-2003, 12:13 PM
Hey Mike everyone knows photography's not art.

BARNETT
12-12-2003, 12:55 PM
Hooligan, thanks for the compliment! I was actually hoping to keep this one for our tiki room, but I had a friend that wanted to buy it,too. Let me check with her (she would kill me if I sold it to someone else after not selling it to her last week)...if she's not interested I'll give you a shout.

Rix2Six
12-12-2003, 01:00 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Hooligan, thanks for the compliment! I was actually hoping to keep this one for our tiki room, but I had a friend that wanted to buy it,too. Let me check with her (she would kill me if I sold it to someone else after not selling it to her last week)...if she's not interested I'll give you a shout.

[/ QUOTE ]

You may wanna think about making a few of those up 'cuz I'd buy one too!

delaware george
12-12-2003, 01:04 PM
SAFARIKNUT...those brushes are sick,i love them!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

TINGLER
12-12-2003, 01:06 PM
Yeah, the Tiki striping ROCKS. Barnett is da man.
Hamiltons monsters with the FUR frame catches my eye too! I love unconventional frames (around GREAT art)!

Great stuff everyone.....

Here is a recent shirt of mine....

TINGLER
12-12-2003, 01:08 PM
And another.....

"Back from the Dead"..... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

plan9
12-12-2003, 01:10 PM
wow... great work people

buick59 - for a 2nd week in a row, awesome photos

saltflataddict
12-12-2003, 01:18 PM
No problem Barnett. I love it though its perfect, the frame, colors and all.

keep em coming folks, all real good stuff..

fatluckys
12-12-2003, 01:20 PM
Wow! This is a good Fri. art show! And it's good to see that it's all hot rod related artwork for tech week...
I gotta go finish up this weeks entry.

4t64rd
12-12-2003, 01:21 PM
This is for Fat Hack, Not finished.

flatlandman
12-12-2003, 01:47 PM
Things slow around the ole shop today (waiting on pix from the lab) so I
thought I'd play around abit.

flatlandman
12-12-2003, 01:49 PM
oh yeah, buick59, DAMN GOOD photos!!!
Hey Spike where is your new stuff???

BARNETT
12-12-2003, 02:04 PM
Thanks again...guess I better get busy, huh?! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif I do have a red and white on candy yellow tiki that I finished this week, but it's not matted or framed yet. If Iget it framed this weekend I'll post it.

Did I show this already? This ones more car oriented. MDO cut out on sccrap metal background..."HURTS"....

bdrake
12-12-2003, 02:08 PM
Thanks everyone, I’m glad you like my 32. The Friday Art shows and everyones contributions have motivated me to get busy. Safarinut, I really like the wooden brush, would be cool mounted on the top of a dash.

Brush, thanks man that means a lot as I really dig your stuff. I have a website but I took all the art down, didn’t want to cause a conflict with my regular job and I was in one of those moods when I thought it all sucked.

Rolf, this one was done all in Adobe Illustrator. I wanted to do colored pencil on black Canson paper or Acylic on board but got going electronic and got in the zone so I went with it. I may try it in one of the other forms later. Most stuff has been electronic lately but I want to get back to the board where all my markers are dry, paint and ink hard and the one prismacolor pencil I need is missing.

Buick59, I just finished this yesterday with no real plans of where to take it. Never had prints made but might be something I should check into when I get a few more pieces ready.

Toyghoul
12-12-2003, 02:14 PM
Panel I scribbled yesterday. Great Stuff Guys!! Wish I could paint Monster shirts like that, I've tried just can't seem to get it. http://www.geocities.com/toyghoul/yellowstripe.JPG

John B
12-12-2003, 02:30 PM
Not really art but I wanted to be part of the crowd.

trey
12-12-2003, 02:44 PM
i like that back from the dead shirt, id buy one! and i dont usually buy anything like that.

on another note, i have a request for you pinstripe guys. anyone want to do the tank for my bobber? i can send it to you, and you stripe it as you see fit. id even throw in some money. pm me if you are up for it.

trey

badpat
12-12-2003, 02:46 PM
this is a christmas present for my mom- test tubes hold flowers

badpat
12-12-2003, 02:47 PM
closeup

badpat
12-12-2003, 02:50 PM
this board makes me want to cut my fingers off, i am so disgusted in their lack of talent after seeing what you folks can do- holy shit i envy your skills

Fat Hack
12-12-2003, 02:51 PM
Damn! Kick-ass work all of you!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Mike...I like what you got going on that concept you told me about...looking GOOD!!

B-Drake...you RULE!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

(That's really a PHOTOGRAPH, isn't it??? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

BARNETT
12-12-2003, 03:06 PM
[ QUOTE ]
this board makes me want to cut my fingers off, i am so disgusted in their lack of talent

[/ QUOTE ]

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Man, that's a funny mental image! That's a cool piece of functional art you did. It seems, no matter what someone is capable of creating, it's not what they would like to be able to create. I'm grateful for what I can do with One-Shot, but it sure would be cool if I could do a nice clean pencil or pen drawing...or take a decent photo! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

MattStrube
12-12-2003, 03:10 PM
BUICK59 wrote: [ QUOTE ]
With a Camera!

[/ QUOTE ]

I was asking how? Not with what? , ie what lighting and what kind of camera settings. Thanks for being a smart ass!
I was intersted in how you shot the picture

Django
12-12-2003, 03:10 PM
As usual killer stuff from everyone.

Holy crap Bill, that rocks. I work in Illustrator every day... I am seriously impressed.

I dig the tiki striping Dan. Bitchin.

badpat
12-12-2003, 03:14 PM
thanks dan, but fuck it i jerked off one last time, then kissed em goodbye (see attachment)

Jasonic
12-12-2003, 03:22 PM
Not sure if this qualifies for the Friday Art show. This is more along the lines of Friday bored at work. 10 minute tape off, spray red krylon hand sprinkle gold flake - looks a little better in person.

kustombuilder
12-12-2003, 03:23 PM
[ QUOTE ]
BILL!!!!!! THAT IS FREAK'IN DROP DEAD KILLER..... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gifKiller talent there buddy....got a website? REAL SUPER FINE http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

DITTO!!!

kustombuilder
12-12-2003, 03:36 PM
i feel so inferior http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif so much INCREDIBLE stuff!! kudos to all... here is my very second flyingeyeball ("flamineyeball"). my very first one i did last sunday night on the inside of the door to my garage. it got too late to grind (neighbors ya know) and i was still feeling ambitious (thats rare http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif) so i just started drawing it. i was happy with it for my first time and being on a door and all. i still have to color it then i'll post a pic but here is my second one. i did it this week during my breaks at work, took a couple days. it sucks only being able to draw for a couple minutes at a time but thats the only chance i get usually. i want to do a couple little touch ups to it but here it is...

Mike

http://photo.starblvd.net/~kustombuilder/3-2-5.jpg

lesabre59
12-12-2003, 03:40 PM
Heres our Car Club logo I designed and Illustrated in Adobe illustrator with Photoshop airbrushing

lesabre59
12-12-2003, 03:41 PM
This i did this one for the local Chevy Club for there t-shirt art. Also in Adobe illustrator

TINGLER
12-12-2003, 03:42 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Great Stuff Guys!! Wish I could paint Monster shirts like that, I've tried just can't seem to get it.



[/ QUOTE ]

Funny...
I wish I could stripe.....

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Great work Toyghoul.

lesabre59
12-12-2003, 03:48 PM
Did this one for the local shoebox club, also Adobe Illustrator

BARNETT
12-12-2003, 03:52 PM
BadPat...you're on a roll today! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

VAPHEAD
12-12-2003, 04:07 PM
The back of our trailer,a local boy (ed) did it for us,kindy cheesy I know...more later.

lostparts
12-12-2003, 04:13 PM
hopefully you guys will get the humor in this. i did it for a up tight motor head, that just finished a ground up on his 69.

delaware george
12-12-2003, 04:17 PM
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif!!!!

Stone
12-12-2003, 04:36 PM
Nice art as always guys.I look foward to this everyweek.Any tips you guys can give for someone who wants to draw and paint hotrods?I can draw people but never really drew a lot of cars.

delaware george
12-12-2003, 04:40 PM
everyone has there thing...i can't draw people that well...hotrods are just kind of regular shapes..people(and leadsleds) are complex curves..they have to flow right....to me

TINGLER
12-12-2003, 04:44 PM
MOST important tip: Draw exactly what you SEE, not what you think you see.

I know some of these other fellas understand that statement perfectly!
When you really "get" this statement, you will be able to draw ANYTHING you want!.

badpat
12-12-2003, 05:18 PM
just finished putting this together, i didn't draw the girl on a tig my buddy cam did that, i just photochopped the letters for the design

safariknut
12-12-2003, 05:44 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Not really art but I wanted to be part of the crowd.

[/ QUOTE ]
Whaddyamean not really art?Art is in the eye of the "beholden" and THAT IS ART!

Buick59
12-12-2003, 05:50 PM
Heya urkillinmesmalls (phew thats a mouth full)I honestly didnt do anything to special on the picture. I didnt use a tripod I just took several frames and this one turned out the best. It's been 4 months since I've been to Bville' my noggin just can't recall. The storm front moving in just looked cool.


NADS!!!!! Why dont you tickle mine!!!!! Hugs and kisses you wacky packey!!!


Mike

fatluckys
12-12-2003, 05:53 PM
Here's my latest striping- After hangin' around all the badass artists at the Monster Rally I decided it's time to get serious about this striping stuff. I'm determined not to let "real life" get in the way of my career as a world class monster artist anymore. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

BARNETT
12-12-2003, 06:06 PM
FatLucky's...YOU NAILED IT with that one! That's a BIG step forward.Very nice.

Hellfish
12-12-2003, 06:51 PM
Man, work always sucks on Friday, but this post makes it worthwhile comin' in! Thanks! Great job to all!

Heckfish

JK
12-12-2003, 08:17 PM
My friend "Big Nate" showed up with this piece Sun. morning after I spent a long cold night puttin' his Caddy back together.

delaware george
12-12-2003, 08:25 PM
that's rad fatlucky,i thought you just layed the lines with a sewing machine http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Jethro
12-12-2003, 09:14 PM
An acrylic painting that my wife made for me last Christmas.I showed her a picture in a HotRod magazine and told her it was cool ,then she painted it and surprised me with it.

The_Monster
12-12-2003, 10:11 PM
damn youre wife is very talented, very nice work man! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

buzzard
12-12-2003, 11:10 PM
Dang Fatluckys, we'll have to ship you off to Monster Art School more often. I thing that may be the best piece of your striping I've seen. Hangin' out with the big boys must be inspiring.

Most all of the art around here is top notch. A kick ass tradition on the HAMB.

surf monkey
12-13-2003, 02:54 AM
seeing as this is tech week..here is an art tech tip.....keep your pencils sharp at all times.... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

fantastic work by the way fellas.....that illustrator deuce is amazing..i`d love to see how thats done

monkey

monkey-inc (http://www.monkey-inc.co.uk)

Johnny Sparkle
12-13-2003, 07:13 AM
I suppose I am late, but since I work night shift, this is still Friday night for me. This scan sucks, my sister's scanner is tiny, but you get the idea. I suck bad, but I enjoy scribbling every now and then.

Johnny Sparkle
12-13-2003, 07:15 AM
Here's another. They look fuzzy and crappy in the scans though. It's the scanner making it crappy, honest. The first on is a '29 Studebaker, and this one is a 57 Studebaker Silver Hawk.

Boones
12-13-2003, 08:45 AM
Here is some art that Von did for me...

Roothawg
12-13-2003, 09:17 AM
BDrake, I looked at that picture you posted half a dozen times thinking it was a photgraph....That is nice.

Is everyone on the Hamb artistic but me?

buzzard
12-13-2003, 09:23 AM
Hey Root, I'm glad you said that. I just looked at the picture and assumed it was a decent photograph. That is incredible.

You and me can start an "Autistic not Artistic HAMBers Club"

bdrake, that rocks.

50mercfan
12-13-2003, 10:14 AM
bdrake, damn! i love picture quality stuff. thats just amazing. do you give lessons? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

side_valve
12-13-2003, 10:52 AM
The "Friday Art" post's a very cool traditon - keep up the great work y'all !!

ratster
12-13-2003, 11:24 AM
Nice work guys!!!!!!!!!! I'm glad my camera is dead.
you guys are amazing

Rix2Six
12-13-2003, 12:26 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Is everyone on the Hamb artistic but me?

[/ QUOTE ]

Hey Root, if it makes ya feel any better, the only artistic talent I've got is the ablity to spot it in others!

BUICKNAILHEAD
12-13-2003, 12:30 PM
[ QUOTE ]
this board makes me want to cut my fingers off, i am so disgusted in their lack of talent after seeing what you folks can do- holy shit i envy your skills

[/ QUOTE ] do us all a favor and cut your legs arms and head off! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

JimC
12-13-2003, 02:03 PM
BDRAKE, That 32 is alive!
Great work!
Jim

Peter Pan of Chicago
12-13-2003, 08:20 PM
....A great big dip of the Mack double naught zero to all the contributors of this past Friday's art show.

All beautiful stuff. Thanks again! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Joel

Smokin Joe
12-14-2003, 03:48 PM
bdrake's been around a while. He did these for me years ago.
http://www.srv.net/~jxc/ink32.gif

This one was the prototype for what the yellow deuce was origionally going to look like.
http://www.srv.net/%7Ejxc/32rdstr.gif

Ragtop
12-14-2003, 04:35 PM
WOW! That coupe is inceredible! You do nice work man!! Actually you all do. Great post. I can't draw a frigg'n straight line.

badpat
12-14-2003, 06:20 PM
this a photochop job i did on dale's hotrodorama poster for shirts

Roothawg
12-14-2003, 06:22 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Is everyone on the Hamb artistic but me?

[/ QUOTE ]

Hey Root, if it makes ya feel any better, the only artistic talent I've got is the ablity to spot it in others!



[/ QUOTE ]


Yep.....

thrasherbill
12-14-2003, 06:29 PM
I know Friday is long gone and I'm not sure if this counts as "art" but I thought I'd post this up anyway. It's one of the door panels I'm working on for my car. It's black vinyl and red velour and will have black carpet with a chrome trim strip when it's done.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/130252.jpg

Sorry Pat, no word on the machine yet but you'll be the first to know.


Bill

Stone
12-14-2003, 06:38 PM
Guys I am so inspired from you all that I plan to try and do some stuff to have for a friday art show.Not sure what show but I'm going to work on everything.

badpat
12-14-2003, 06:53 PM
nice panel bill, give me a call, lets go fer coffe sometime in w rock

thrasherbill
12-14-2003, 10:59 PM
Pat, email or PM me your #. I don't know what the hell I did with it. Right now I'm at school 8-2 and then work 3-9 Mon- Fri so maybe we could meet up Saturday afternoon. Send me the digits and I'll give you a call.

Bill

nor cal nic
12-15-2003, 06:21 PM
here's somethin' by mc'phail we picked up for a pal...
nic