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THE-SYNDICATE
12-10-2010, 08:15 PM
Hey Gang....

Well it's about time to start a new project thread. So here's the deal! It's been about 6 years since my racing days ended and I kinda started getting the bug again. But this time it's going to be different. I know that building another Race Car and going out to really compete is out of the question with my Wife and Financially it just doesn't work. But I MUST have another Dragster.... I miss the days of walking out into the garage and staring at my '68 Shoemaker Car.... Time for another one but what route to take??? I called up a long time racing friend to discuss the general idea and told him that towing down for the Cackle Fest deal would be a hoot! He agreed and said "Pick one and go for it!!"

Easy....

The Beebe Bros, Vinson, & Sixt Car....

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/S-LgDd4pKsI/AAAAAAAADJk/XMsML09CcQk/s800/502774560_FUSNb-XL-3.jpg

So the story begins...

I have had the July 1966 Issue of Drag Racing Magazine since I was a little boy and have always wanted this car... My Favorite of all time!!! The original car is now 100ft below the surface of the Earth in Australia so we're going to need to start fresh. I will try to post as much as possible along the way and keep y'all in the loop. It won't be as fast paced as my Shop Truck Project but it shouldn't take too much time!

Fire the next pair!

Robert

THE-SYNDICATE
12-10-2010, 08:31 PM
In order to build the damn thing we need to start gathering parts and info!! I decided that I needed to start with some of the King Pins of the whole Cackle Fest movement and put the word out for info about the car. What has followed has been an overwhelming amount of help from some really Bitchin Dudes! They have provided parts and pictures along with many long stories regarding how much of an Ass Kicking car this thing really was! And most importantly how much they all want to see it live again!

He's a few more shots of the thing back in the day:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK298o7yuI/AAAAAAAADyg/FEny4dahRcw/s640/BB%20Bros%20%26%20Sixt%2C%20Bond%20Photo.jpg
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK5x6RRmII/AAAAAAAAD0c/mrDWI4Z1fvY/s640/beebe%20Pomona.jpg

THE-SYNDICATE
12-10-2010, 08:35 PM
The Original Gang:

Left to Right: Lee Sixt, Tim Beebe, and "The King of Garden Grove" Dave Beebe!

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK5yR_LaNI/AAAAAAAAD0g/AWt6KdjHDfU/s800/beebe1.jpg

dbradley
12-10-2010, 08:38 PM
Just one of the important rules for cacklefest participation:

<center> </center> If you are considering a Cacklefest restoration or recreation other than one you have previously owned, the subject project must have the ongoing approval and cooperation of the original principles (or their heirs). Cars of no original prototype must have a strong connection to the era. There are qualified, knowledgeable people willing to freely advise you in all matters relating to Cacklefest cars, their safety, appropriateness, and correctness.

http://www.cacklefest.com/guidelines.shtml

THE-SYNDICATE
12-10-2010, 08:41 PM
The First Parts....

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK5SElQoJI/AAAAAAAADzk/CYegfD8LXX8/s640/IMG_4285.jpg

Cool just a roll bar and shit right??? Well not quite....

On the phone with Frank Fedak mining data about the whole deal and after about an hour or so on the phone he says... "Hey that car was built with a bunch of RCS parts including the roll bar and back brace tube." Yeah... "Well I was there when they closed up shop and I got all the remaining sets that they had! There is 2 left and a torsion tube as well!. I send them up!"

Wow no shit! The same shit as once was??? And NOS items sitting on the shelf! Hot Damn! Off to a good start!

squash
12-10-2010, 08:45 PM
Okay so you got my attention! I'm subscribing to this! This is a dream for me to be able to go to my garage, roll out an FED, fire it up and just let her eat in the drive way while the neighbors just shake their heads! I love it!

THE-SYNDICATE
12-10-2010, 09:30 PM
Just one of the important rules for cacklefest participation:

<center> </center> If you are considering a Cacklefest restoration or recreation other than one you have previously owned, the subject project must have the ongoing approval and cooperation of the original principles (or their heirs). Cars of no original prototype must have a strong connection to the era. There are qualified, knowledgeable people willing to freely advise you in all matters relating to Cacklefest cars, their safety, appropriateness, and correctness.

http://www.cacklefest.com/guidelines.shtml


Yep 100% correct.... There is full involvement from the Key Folks on this deal so no need to worry... Tim Beebe and Lee Sixt have been a huge help so far in tracking the history of this bitchin car. They get monthly updates from me and are kept breast of all things going on!

dwrfab
12-10-2010, 10:42 PM
I'll subscribe to this string as I sold him some parts for the car.
dwrfab Don Ross

Royalshifter
12-10-2010, 10:45 PM
Gonna watch this thread.....very cool.

THE-SYNDICATE
12-10-2010, 10:55 PM
Here's the start of the Motor Parts...
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK5rUi3sxI/AAAAAAAAD0M/01kWMEZDvgQ/s640/IMG_0062.PNG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK5uNr9M7I/AAAAAAAAD0Q/pOasYivECB8/s640/IMG_0063.PNG

Cool thing here is that Jim Murphy happens to live about 15min away from me here in Sonoma County. Well it also happens that Tim Beebe is his crew chief to this day on his Front Engine Fuel Car... Tim and I are on the phone and he says... Ah well you should head over to Murphy's and round up some parts... I did just that...

rick finch
12-10-2010, 10:57 PM
Subscribed.....:cool:

GaryB
12-10-2010, 11:04 PM
this gunna be good!

THE-SYNDICATE
12-10-2010, 11:07 PM
Then I started to think about frame rails and such.... Need to get that big radius bend... Hmmm......

Well everyones trusted Favorite "KING CHASSIS" steps in and says, "Shit why don't you just call H&L metals down in Signal Hill and get him to bend it? He's bent all the pipe for all the guys since the 60's!" OK... Will do... Picked up the phone and sure nufffff... I need a 9" radius bend in 1.5" ChromeMoly. Oh you must be building a top fuel car... While Yes, Yes I am.... No Problem... Give me a few days.

Here's a shot of the tubes all mocked up on top of my Chassis Jig/Table.

Side Note: I talked with Lee Sixt last week for my Monthly Update... He says, ah shit... A Jig! no... I just built the damn thing on the floor.. The cost of a jig was the same as the cost of tube for the chassis so why the hell would we spend extra???

Classic... It keeps getting better....

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TF2X-Pw4s9I/AAAAAAAADv4/XYrY9e1NgVc/s640/IMG_0008.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TF2YBSzIigI/AAAAAAAADv8/zsTWA9esFIQ/s640/IMG_0009.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TF2YEdvNdPI/AAAAAAAADwA/38sMXOmyGIc/s640/IMG_0011.JPG

lippy
12-10-2010, 11:17 PM
Cool project!! Was that car 150 wb, or? Glad your getting parts help. Lippy:)

THE-SYNDICATE
12-11-2010, 12:16 AM
So.... Then we need some wheels and tires.... Halibrands!! And Slicks!! The real shit!! Well... I get a email from a good friend. He has located a set of wheels and tires and is OH SO happy to have found them. But he is keeping them for what comes next. I say RICEMAN! Can I have them for my deal?

Several weeks pass and I get the best phone call ever... Sure Man... They are for you you! Here they are in the back of the truck. Roger Kick's Ass!!! These things are bitchin!

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK55ayR_ZI/AAAAAAAAD00/NExc1qppqeo/s640/IMG_0469.jpg

And some shots of my little helper get'n after it with the polish!

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK6DLlVhkI/AAAAAAAAD1I/zST1HVkV6DU/s640/IMG_0609.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK6EE51tcI/AAAAAAAAD1M/KjI-qGwPllc/s640/IMG_0610.jpg

Soooo Bitchin....

THE-SYNDICATE
12-11-2010, 12:19 AM
Cool project!! Was that car 150 wb, or? Glad your getting parts help. Lippy:)

Hey Lippy,

Thanks Much! This car was 143" when it rolled out the door... Typical of the '65 era..

Cheers,

~Berto
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK5aRZIICI/AAAAAAAADz0/kOC1YVlPjOI/s640/IMG_0002.PNG

FunnyCar65
12-11-2010, 06:30 AM
subscribed

olcurmdgeon
12-11-2010, 06:42 AM
Subscribed, I am a sucker for FEDs. Many happy memories of wheeling the alcohol injected flathead car that is my avatar!

THE-SYNDICATE
12-11-2010, 10:09 AM
When working on any project we must scan Craigslist and the Classified Section here on the HAMB because you never know what will turn up! I saw an add one morning for some HEMI valve covers and the price seemed right so I blasted over to this fella joint and sure nuff! IMPERIALS.... Just what I need!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK5Qr0pqgI/AAAAAAAADzg/uebCU03-ip4/s640/IMG_4274.JPG

Then while sifting thru the classified adds on here I happened across this fuel tank. I thought the car had a typical moon tank in it but the more I studied the ports and the shape of things it became clear to me that it really was an Ellco Tank. And the one listed for sale on the HAMB was exactly the same! Order Up!

Here's a shot of some of the earliest pieces...

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TBzKeMF3ZsI/AAAAAAAADyc/UhUxoKvyOi4/s800/Cackle1.jpg

THE-SYNDICATE
12-11-2010, 10:25 AM
Here's a few more Classified finds....

A totally sweet HAYS 2-Disk clutch via Kiwi Kev!!! This will work just fine...

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK5jWZvqgI/AAAAAAAAD0A/MDcW4J-1l7E/s640/IMG_0003.PNG

And then a steering box.... Super nice and like new condition P&S box from Chuck Kurzawa!!! RamChargers Fame!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK5g3q0_2I/AAAAAAAADz8/shzSMBV1oVw/s640/IMG_0001.PNG

applekrate
12-11-2010, 10:26 AM
Looks like a nice project to follow along with. Best of luck to you building it. Looking forward to seeing and hearing it.


Steve
"Pontiac Heaven Special" AA/FD

willysguy
12-11-2010, 10:27 AM
Very cool indeed!!! I love the old fuel cars of the 60's!

THE-SYNDICATE
12-11-2010, 10:31 AM
I use these photos for pure inspiration...... How BITCHIN is this?????
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQOi81t17fI/AAAAAAAAD2A/QS0gqxijllU/s640/launch1.jpg

And then a little night fire.....
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK5TX57NuI/AAAAAAAADzo/Sad9uUJHsOA/s640/IMG_4290.jpg

The thing to keep in mind here is that this car along with these few guys just about dominated the SoCal scene for most of 1966.... They drug home over $30K in prize money just for tat year alone.... Did it Haul Ass??? I think so...

:)

Can't wait!

THE-SYNDICATE
12-11-2010, 10:39 AM
So then I'm sifting thru some more Craigslist Ya Ya and come across a set of Pistons for a 426. Nice set of Venolia's but that's not the point... I give the guy a call and say, "Hey what else ya got around there???" Well head on out and have a look.... Sure Nuff!!! More Shit!

NOS Hurst Brake Calipers
A Perfect 8 3/4" CHRY rear end with axles narrowed up!
And a sweet set of 2" belt that have the proper hardware for redoing a vintage fuel car.

Load'em Up!!!

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK5Uklc9iI/AAAAAAAADzs/cSVqOS5YPh8/s640/IMG_0012.JPG

After dragging this home we need to lay things out and take a look at the loot!

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK5mOaiQNI/AAAAAAAAD0E/p0iUoVF-F6I/s640/IMG_0002.PNG

THE PILE IS BUILDING!!!!

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK5o0rGAYI/AAAAAAAAD0I/AfzLQ0ODbj0/s640/IMG_0003.PNG

Time for more Motor Shit....

resqd37Zep
12-11-2010, 10:41 AM
Awesome post. I'm getting excited for you with every new part you find. Can't wait to see the end result.

Kerry
12-11-2010, 10:46 AM
Awesome!

THE-SYNDICATE
12-11-2010, 10:47 AM
My group of HotRod buddies from the Peninsula are always on the look out for shit and a day doesn't go by that we don't get a chain email listing some new GEM here or there around the greater Bay Area. Well here comes a nice little '32 Ford Pick-up project and it's right here in Santa Rosa! Great... Down at the bottom of the add it says HEMI parts!!! Phone Call and WE'RE OFF!!! Blast over to find several hundred pounds of IRON...... Just What I need!

Cranks, Heads, Rockers, and another Block!
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQOi-O8Z3nI/AAAAAAAAD2I/gKUqlhwMtKY/s640/parts1.jpg

Ah Yes... The A-1 Block... Gotta Have it!

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK6GTq90bI/AAAAAAAAD1U/SGDZr0FHVj8/s640/IMG_0643.JPG

Now lets see the pile!!!

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQOi9kUlQPI/AAAAAAAAD2E/KYNRD8vIYmM/s640/parts2.jpg

Better each and every day..... :)

kingpins
12-11-2010, 10:54 AM
awesome thread!

KING CHASSIS
12-11-2010, 11:08 AM
Sittin here with a big smile. Cant wait.

THE-SYNDICATE
12-11-2010, 05:01 PM
Then we headed on up to the Race Car swap meet in Sacto a month or so ago cuz there surly was something to be had there??? Well not much but we did score the Cragar Intake and a nice set of SPE Rotors and Hats! That'll work...

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK5_9cpS6I/AAAAAAAAD1A/SKt9in4u0IQ/s640/IMG_0585.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK6B8v-tFI/AAAAAAAAD1E/dawTrVMTwpc/s640/IMG_0586.PNG

Another Blast thru Craigslist turned up a Blower! Gotta have an original GMC 671 because we need to make sure the case and bearing plates look period correct... Can't have any modern stuff on there... This will get sent in for a complete once over her soon.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK5-e6kTVI/AAAAAAAAD08/f3XOAQkxOkE/s640/IMG_0488.PNG

THE-SYNDICATE
12-11-2010, 05:02 PM
Time for another Vintage Kodak.... Starting to look like something!!!

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK6E8TJh_I/AAAAAAAAD1Q/Bzn81ntcpFw/s800/IMG_0619.JPG

Fuck'n Love it!!!!!

THE-SYNDICATE
12-11-2010, 05:13 PM
A bit more hunt'n and Poke'n round about the internet turned up a great fella back east that was done running his 417 Donovan and he had an Ass-Load of goodies up for sale... It came at a perfect time because Harvest was in full swing at the winery and I was working my Ass Off... Each night I would roll home late and it was all I could do do have a glass to calm my nerves and choke down some food before passing out for a few hours. Until this night came along!!! A fresh issue of the Rodder's Journal and more HEMI parts! Can you say relaxing??? I knew you could...

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK51JXUHrI/AAAAAAAAD0o/-9qKDDaBoxw/s640/IMG_0415.PNG

Donovan Gear Drive. Crower Cam, and a killer set of Roller Lifters.

WIN WITH DONOVAN!!!
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK524bQ-iI/AAAAAAAAD0s/PbILEu6Z34k/s640/IMG_0424.jpg

THE-SYNDICATE
12-11-2010, 05:24 PM
Collecting parts is all good but at some point we gotta start work'n on shit... So I loaded up the 2 cranks and headed down to the Bay Area. These need to make it to the proper shop with a guy who still knows his shit... They are becoming few and far between... This One is still the PLACE.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQQEHT5OjjI/AAAAAAAAD2Q/PqxKvrdp67U/s640/IMG_0678.JPG

The cranks are looking pretty good. The one is a simple stock crank but the other one is the winner! It's either a "Hank the Crank" or a "CrankShaftCo." deal from the 60's. Added counterweights, lots of grinding and polishing, full groove Main Journals, etc.... We are focusing on this one and just checking the other one to make sure we have a good spare lying around.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQQD2gVFuCI/AAAAAAAAD2M/tTcL2yKFi58/s640/IMG_0511.jpg

While I was down there I was stoked to get my Favorite Mask Back!!!! I have worn this for every pass I have ever made down the ole 1320.... So glad to have it back!!! And glad I will get to use it again!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQQEH6vG7sI/AAAAAAAAD2U/dHfqxUVPYbM/s640/IMG_0679.JPG

rd martin
12-11-2010, 06:18 PM
kool stuff, cant wait to see it going together!

fredb
12-11-2010, 07:16 PM
Subscribed!
Bitch'en thread...Beebe Bros was one of my favorite TFD's of that time...Cool Project

From right down the road in Windsor...if you need any heavy lifting or ? give me a holler

150J/F
12-11-2010, 08:45 PM
Wow! This thing is really coming together. How long have you been collecting parts?

THE-SYNDICATE
12-11-2010, 09:22 PM
Subscribed!
Bitch'en thread...Beebe Bros was one of my favorite TFD's of that time...Cool Project

From right down the road in Windsor...if you need any heavy lifting or ? give me a holler

Fred! That's outstanding! Good to know we have some local fans.... There's a few other locals that have actually been involved with the car.... Those stories will come soon.



Wow! This thing is really coming together. How long have you been collecting parts?

Thanks! I think the first pieces roll'ed in the door about 5 to 6 months ago now... There is much more stuff here and I will add a few more posts over the next days to bring y'all up to speed.

Cheers,

Robert M.

GaryB
12-11-2010, 09:24 PM
this is going to be bitchin!

THE-SYNDICATE
12-11-2010, 11:54 PM
You mentioned that the original car is in Australia.
Do you know if it still exists and who has it?

RIP ED

Well Steve it's an interesting tale.... This car actually transitioned in to the 1st Beebe & Mulligan Green Striped Car.... The car that John Mulligan drove during the '68 season! I will do a little Photo spread on this in the future showing all the variations but the story goes like this.. Without expanding of course!

1. Car built by Lee Sixt and a new team is formed in '65 as Beebe Bros, Vinson and Sixt.
2. Vinson Drops out after not too long and it sticks as the the 3 main guys.
3. The next few months of transition are not too clear... Either Lee Sixt opted out and it became just Tim and Dave, or John mulligan hopped in in place of Dave cuz he didn't want to go out on the road, and then Lee departed after that??? Regardless there was a big change up sometime in late '66 and in thru '67.
4. I won't go into the work done on the car quite yet but it was extensive... John Mulligan continued to drive this car all thru the '68 Season.
5. Leland Kolb was the next fella to own it and proceeded to lump in a 426! He raced the car a bit in the US and then crated her up and shipped it over to AUS.
6. The car was then stationed at Surfer's Paradise Drag Strip.
7. After a lot of Ya Ya it became Jim Read's Car.
8. It was then turned into a Rear engine car and traded hands a few more times... It finally ended up in Rod Bradshaw's home and was determined to be scrapped at this point. But remember.... Only the frame was scrapped! There's a bunch more shit out there!!!

Rod Bradshaw was the final Dude to have his hands on this car and he has been a monster help in bringing this beast back to life!

More news soon....

Robert M.

RetroSteel
12-12-2010, 12:32 AM
Thanks for sharing your build!:D
Here is a blown gas 60's FED from B.C. Canada
Syndicate Scuderia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE_SbhrVuBg

THE-SYNDICATE
12-13-2010, 01:05 PM
Thanks for sharing your build!:D
Here is a blown gas 60's FED from B.C. Canada
Syndicate Scuderia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE_SbhrVuBg

That is a bitchin Car!! I'm pretty sure I remember that car from some of the Nostalgia deals held at Fremont back in the late 80's. Absolutely beautiful.....

Thanks for sharing that!

6berry
12-13-2010, 08:46 PM
this is gonna turn out great. i love how your collecting the parts for it!

KING CHASSIS
12-13-2010, 10:10 PM
If the truck in your avitar is yours, you have the perfect tow car. Here is a Dragmaster chassis I built in the back of Biggens 58.

Sweeney
12-13-2010, 10:43 PM
http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/8222/1038662406033732935S500x500Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1038662406033732935WDnUbY)

And I owned and raced the old Beebe & Fedak dragster for numerous years. Ask Frank about this one!

Best of luck on your project!

THE-SYNDICATE
12-13-2010, 10:45 PM
So What's Next??? Hmmmmm... We need some Spark in this deal... Now here comes a cool part... Every Picture of this car I have seen has a Cirello Frankenstein MAG in the car. Well the last time I checked these are OFF THE RICHTER SCALE on price... Why?? Well Shit they only made like 360 of them and they are commanding quite the price... OK Cool... So I call up Lee Sixt and have a chat about the MAG, He Chimes in, "Well yeah that Franky was cool but we didn't have that at first...." Really? "Oh yeah we certainly had a Schiefer in there to start..." One more call to Tim for a back up and you bethcha!! "Well yeah... We had that Schiefer in there but Hell it wasn't long before we switched...." Keep in mind that I'm trying to build this car just as it rolled out in '65.

Well Hot Damn! Let's find one! So I'm making the rounds thru the Old Dude Phone list and end up chatting with Chuck Ridgely, a fellow that was always hang'n round and work'n with Tim Beebe and John Mulligan. He tells me of a Spare Mag over at Dave West's Compound and that I should give Dave a call! Sure Nuff! It's there and we made a deal! Dave West is the fine Gentleman that has gone thru every hoop possible to accurately re-create the Beebe and Mulligan Car as it was in 1969. A true Kick Ass guy and a major help for me in this project. Here's the Mag...

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQbutZSs5pI/AAAAAAAAD2o/3ooZXcY4QL8/s800/mag.jpg

But wait! There's more..... Just so happens that Dave is a Wine Guy... So we strike a deal for the MAG and then spend time assembling our shipments... Here's mine the night it arrived! Perfect for Thanksgiving Dinner I Say!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQbus78sxjI/AAAAAAAAD2k/5fn72jQ-0EY/s640/mag2.jpg

Drink Up!!!

Robert M.

THE-SYNDICATE
12-13-2010, 10:50 PM
http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/8222/1038662406033732935S500x500Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1038662406033732935WDnUbY)

And I owned and raced the old Beebe & Fedak dragster for numerous years. Ask Frank about this one!

Best of luck on your project!

Wow No Shit!! Yeah that car is Identical to this one... Frank and I have had many chats about it!! Too Cool... I heard it was in a BAR down in Florida??? Is that correct? I have a great picture of your car that Frank Sent with my Roll Bar. It's the classic night shot from the rear quarter, Flames Up and waiting t the tree.... Such a cool car...

Did it still have the hand brake in the center when you got it? That was Dave's location of choice. I have recently seen some photographs of the car as it was after Jim Read rebuilt it in AUS and it finally shows where the damn handle needs to be.


Thanks For chiming in!!!

Cheers,

Robert M.

THE-SYNDICATE
12-13-2010, 11:04 PM
If the truck in your avitar is yours, you have the perfect tow car. Here is a Dragmaster chassis I built in the back of Biggens 58.

Dude... For Sure!! I built the '56 to be my period perfect Push Truck for this COMBO.... It can't wait to get Nitro Sprinkled all over the hood!!! :)

Dig IT BABY!!! I haven't built the Push Bar yet but that will come when the time is right...

:)

~Berto

bowtie40
12-14-2010, 01:03 AM
Wow!!! havin been involved with a gas digger in the 60's, I remember bein" in the lanes at Long beach with the "Irish" sittin' next to us. Wow what great memories... Bowtie40

THE-SYNDICATE
12-14-2010, 09:11 AM
Time for more Go Fast shit....

So I'm having a multiway e-mail chat about sleeving the block and the pros and cons associated with it a few months back... Well a good friend of mine Ron Johnson instructed me to give Jim Swedburg a call and talk thru what had been done on both motors for the Ivo Barnstormer as well as the Chizzler Cackle Cars. Ron told me Jim would have some good info and, oh yeah, "he makes some neat stuff as well...." So I pick up the phone and after about 1.5 hours of conversation I have 2 pages of notes and a whole heap of shit on the way to me! He's a shot of some of the spread...

4-Bolt Main Caps.
Killer Race Oil Pump all set up and ready for TopFuel Duty.
Neat little SparkPlug Tube seals that are designed to work with stock steel covers.
The slick little plug that you need to direct 100% oil flow to the filter.
And Last but not least, the trick Remote Oil filter adapter that allows all this shit to fit in between tight frame rails!

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK6PB5lO_I/AAAAAAAAD1k/m-Gc_PP2VEQ/s640/IMG_0793.JPG

There is much more he has and I look forward to getting more loot as time allows! Great Guy, Great Data!!!

Fire the next pair!!!!

Robert M.

Chuckles Garage
12-14-2010, 10:57 AM
Awesome! If you need a hand, come over to the shop and steal me away. I won't mind if its for this!

Sweeney
12-14-2010, 11:24 AM
Here's the butterfly I kept from the Fedak car...

http://inlinethumb62.webshots.com/35133/2942272320033732935S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2942272320033732935ivpkar)

Not sure if it's the original to the car but I'm kinda thinking it is. Frank might be able to tell you. Holes could be welded up once that brace I put on it was removed.

More pics here...http://rides.webshots.com/album/38623934nWPlrX

Sweeney
12-14-2010, 11:25 AM
And it is the same one as seen in the shot with me sitting in the car with the cowl off.

THE-SYNDICATE
12-14-2010, 05:56 PM
Well as you can see from the last few posts Mr. Sweeney has stepped up to the plate with a bitchin piece of history.... That steering wheel has done it's share of Haul'n Ass and it has done so in the hands of Dave Beebe! As well as the years of fun I'm sure it provided for Bill! So classic...

Here's a good shot of the car in it's Heyday that the steering wheel came out of. Dave Beebe started to drive this car in a partnership with Frank back in '68. This would be his new ride after passing the torch to the late John Mulligan in the car I'm building. Take a look:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQgDGloUPdI/AAAAAAAAD2s/qEXF6nr9X9w/s800/Beebe-Fedak-JereAlhadef.jpg

That photo is just too cool..... OCIR, at night, big load in the thing, Staged with the Flames Just right.... And Dave has a firm grip on that very steering wheel... Shit Howdy!!!

THE-SYNDICATE
12-14-2010, 06:04 PM
The cool thing about a Cackle car is that you get to build a race car without totally building a race car. You need to do shit right for sure but you really don't need to go Balls Out in the performance world. Matter of fact you want the thing to be as solid as it possibly can be.... Well within reason of course... Let's not forget that we will be still playing around with 90% Plus of POP in the tank.

Here's a little bit of clean up work on the heads. Nothing serious here in the world of porting but just more of a clean up. You want to leave as much MEAT in the heads as possible to help with absorbing heat and being able to idle for awhile. So I just laid out the ports like normal and cleaned them up for a good Gasket Match. The Bowls are not cleaned up quite yet but they will get a simple blend after the hard seats are installed. Here's a few Kodak's for ya:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK6JkA0WcI/AAAAAAAAD1c/Cy-ySzwS-kA/s640/IMG_0659.JPG

And then here we are after the grinding... Not much material removed at all...

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK6MLzSVjI/AAAAAAAAD1g/nmFu9LntUgw/s640/IMG_0676.JPG

Exhaust side is next......

THE-SYNDICATE
12-14-2010, 06:12 PM
Time for a few more Black & Whites..... Need more inspiration.....

Check This Shit Out!
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK5vV2_tYI/AAAAAAAAD0U/T3nVraLMRIs/s640/img151.jpg

Side Shot.....
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQgG787YugI/AAAAAAAAD2w/27C8K4cPd18/s640/IMG_4272.JPG

And Bringing up the rear..... Gotta Love it!
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK5wwAP_fI/AAAAAAAAD0Y/tIa1FLNu6tw/s640/img157.jpg

150J/F
12-14-2010, 06:24 PM
He must have red lighted!

Junior Stock
12-14-2010, 07:46 PM
Funny how things come together.
Read this story in the November 66 issue of Drag Racing about a month ago and then see this here today.
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/JuniorStock/Revolution10091.jpg
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/JuniorStock/Revolution10-1.jpg
Not sure if this is the original Adams-Wayre-Mulligan car but when you get finished these two need to get together.
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/JuniorStock/KKOA30thSalina003.jpg

THE-SYNDICATE
12-14-2010, 08:06 PM
Funny how things come together.
Read this story in the November 66 issue of Drag Racing about a month ago and then see this here today.
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/JuniorStock/Revolution10091.jpg
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/JuniorStock/Revolution10-1.jpg
Not sure if this is the original Adams-Wayre-Mulligan car but when you get finished these two need to get together.
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee248/JuniorStock/KKOA30thSalina003.jpg

Fantastic!!! Such a Bitchin Article... Thank you so much for posting this up! I have yet to see this article in it's entire format. Tense Times for these boys!!!! Some awfully good racing in those days. Yep the Adams & Wayre car is a redo I think but it's a perfect one! And Yes How cool will it be to have the two cars together at the starting line on full tilt??? Yikes.... Almost Pee myself thinking about it.

Thanks Much!

~Berto

THE-SYNDICATE
12-14-2010, 08:34 PM
BTW.... Rod McCarrell, a huge help in this whole deal has informed me that the Dave's Visor that read's "KING" is still hanging in Frank's Shop..... So Bitchin!!!

Robs Dad
12-14-2010, 10:18 PM
I'm Robs Dad (Bob) and I wanted to get in on this post since I have been promised the job push starting this car with his 56 pickup when done. I included Rob in my life while he was growing up. He was always around my older friends and took it all in. We made many a trip to Fremont drags and lived there when the last drag race went down. I could see how Rob admired drag racing so when he was in the 6th grade I promised him that if maintained Honor roll through high school I would by him a dragster on his 16th birthday.( I'm sure he will post a picture of this car) What an incentive that was. Not only did he maintain it he continued on until he graduated and then went on to Graduate from UCSB with his degree in Mechanical Engineering. For 7 years we raced the nostagia circuit with all of our friends. I never knew that Rob had a secret desire to build this new car until 5 months ago when he started collecting parts for it. Am I proud of him ? You Damn Right I am. Enough said for now.

GaryB
12-14-2010, 10:31 PM
welcome to the hamb. are you going to be building some kinda kickass push bumper for that truck?

THE-SYNDICATE
12-14-2010, 10:32 PM
Thats cool Dad..... I promise this will be bitchin....

Drewfus
12-14-2010, 11:20 PM
Thats cool Dad..... I promise this will be bitchin....

R
O
C
K

On....great thread on so many levels.

What sort of engine specs are you aiming for?

Cheers,

Drewfus:)

THE-SYNDICATE
12-15-2010, 11:40 AM
welcome to the hamb. are you going to be building some kinda kickass push bumper for that truck?

For Sure... I'm not totally set on how it will finish up and I don't want to get into too much until the car is built and on the ground. I haven't quite figured out where that Push bar really is in relation to the ground so we'll wait for now.

R
O
C
K

On....great thread on so many levels.

What sort of engine specs are you aiming for?

Cheers,

Drewfus:)

This Bullet will be comprised of the following:

1. 1957 Block
Bored and Honed to hopefully 4.020" It should clean up fine....

2. Billet Alum 4-Bolt Main Caps.

3. Stock Front and Rear Caps "All locked in place with ARP studs"

4. Stock Crank with all the gucci treatment.

5. Brooks Alum Rods, Stock length of 6.956"

6. New Pistons, most likely from Venolia. Shooting for 0.250" Down on these.....

7. Engle L-131 Roller Cam.

8. Crane Roller Lifters

9. Reworked Oil Pump by Jim Swedburg all tricked out for Nitro Duty...

10. Stock Oil Pan reworked to fit the chassis.

11. Donovan Diamond Gear Drive

12. Stock '57 392 Heads with mild clean up in the ports.

13. Standard Valve Job

14. Stock Iron Guides

15. New Stainless Valves, Intake and exhaust sizes TBD....

16. Stock Rocker Assemblies but with Either Donovan Exhaust Rockers or one of the new aftermarket set ups. I can't run the big new billet jobs because I have to stick with the stock steel covers. And I would prefer to not run valve cover spacers.

17. Stock 671 GMC blower reworked by Mooneyham on top of a Cragar Alum Manifold

18. Enderle Shower Head Bug Catcher with all the proper set-up for running Nitro.
Note: I have heard about setting these hats up to have more nozzles in them than just to original 2 from the side. This can be done and everything can be concealed within the HAT for proper looks.... I will investigate this more as time allows. This car had port nozzles on it and I intend to put them on as well. But I might just simplify the system and run all the fuel thru the hat and not mess with the port nozzles... i.e make them a dummy set?

19. Blower drive will be the same as original in that the car will not have a idler pulley. I will make spacer plates to go under the blower in order to get the right tension on the belt. This was most definitely a signature feature of the car in its original format and I want to maintain this look. The final drive should be about 20~24% OD.

20. Scheifer/Cirello MAG with Packard Wires and Auto Light Plugs....

That's about it for the motor combo!! Should make huge noise and provide a few good smokey burnouts.....

Did I mention Autolight Plugs??? Well ya need to proper 6" decals for the rear seat to show your support!!! Here they are:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK6QWUgiiI/AAAAAAAAD1o/YjET2ReXwTU/s640/IMG_0801.JPG

Hmmm... Let's see.... 25~30 MPH, Horn Honk, Clutch out, Oil Pressure Up, Throttle Open, Count to 3, MAG ON.... BOOM!!!!! Let's Party!!!

Gasser1961
12-15-2010, 12:14 PM
Right on more history.

51 Hemi J
12-15-2010, 01:03 PM
Is that Chassis Plan available as a scan somewhere? Just love to collect those old plans and stuff. Keep up the killer build!

THE-SYNDICATE
12-15-2010, 01:06 PM
Is that Chassis Plan available as a scan somewhere? Just love to collect those old plans and stuff. Keep up the killer build!

That plan is for a 1964 Woody Gilmore Car. Look up "riceman" on here and PM him. He did this drawing for his rebuild of the Brissette and Sutherland Fuel Car.

Check It out....

http://cacklefest.com/Brissette.shtml

rick finch
12-15-2010, 01:35 PM
19. Blower drive will be the same as original in that the car will not have a idler pulley. I will make spacer plates to go under the blower in order to get the right tension on the belt. This was most definitely a signature feature of the car in its original format and I want to maintain this look.

The Surfers did the same thing.....;) Keep 'em coming, great job.

THE-SYNDICATE
12-15-2010, 02:39 PM
Here's a great shot of the car from Above... This is taken from the 1966 Drag racing Mag article.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK5aRZIICI/AAAAAAAADz0/kOC1YVlPjOI/s640/IMG_0002.PNG

THE-SYNDICATE
12-15-2010, 04:10 PM
And do you see those nifty little breathers on top of the valve covers??? Too cool... Gotta Have um! Well I'm not sure if these are the absolute correct units but they are really Damn Close.... Close enough!!! Steve Sellers had these cast up and I was able to get the last set he had in stock... Here they are on their own:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQk6rVxJpVI/AAAAAAAAD3I/SFJR1zt7eXo/s640/Breathers1.jpg

And here's a trial fit on the IMPERIAL covers....

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQk6q7oyCCI/AAAAAAAAD3E/BpEYQlB4TiY/s640/Breathers2.jpg

Just Right!

KING CHASSIS
12-16-2010, 06:42 AM
Keep it all coming!!!

Oh and I really liked this.
Hmmm... Let's see.... 25~30 MPH, Horn Honk, Clutch out, Oil Pressure Up, Throttle Open, Count to 3, MAG ON.... BOOM!!!!! Let's Party!!!

That should be your signature! <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

THE-SYNDICATE
12-16-2010, 09:02 AM
Keep it all coming!!!

Oh and I really liked this.
Hmmm... Let's see.... 25~30 MPH, Horn Honk, Clutch out, Oil Pressure Up, Throttle Open, Count to 3, MAG ON.... BOOM!!!!! Let's Party!!!

That should be your signature! <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Good Call Mr. KING.....

Done deal... Hey did you get my PM about the prints?

Lemeno?

~Berto

Gasser1961
12-16-2010, 09:29 AM
Where did you get thoses chassis blue-prints?

THE-SYNDICATE
12-16-2010, 09:34 AM
Where did you get thoses chassis blue-prints?

Just look up "riceman" on here... Roger Lee. PM him and he will sell you a set. Great prints. I use them as a reference but they are for a Woody Gilmore car... Slightly different than my deal...


Roger is a Kick Ass dude and has done a bunch for the Cacklefest Movement... Major History Buff...

Cheers,

Robert M.

KING CHASSIS
12-16-2010, 05:14 PM
Good Call Mr. KING.....

Done deal... Hey did you get my PM about the prints?

Lemeno?

~Berto

No PM from you , if you were talkin to me in the quote above. KING

THE-SYNDICATE
12-19-2010, 11:25 AM
Time to show a bit of the progression of the car thru time!! The car rolled out in the Candy Purple configuration that has been shown so far in the post and this is how I will present it when done.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQ45UglqrYI/AAAAAAAAD3s/F7_q5G0Qk9M/s800/BEEBESOL.jpg

But this car lived a long life and had many faces over time! Like I mentioned earlier it made the long trip down under and finally ended up Truly DownUnder by being buried in the Dumps!

Let's look at the first face lift... It's my belief that this occurred sometime in 1966. Maybe towards the latter half of the year? Here we have the car switched over to Candy Blue Paint and the crew in a crisp look!
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQ45TRhyYAI/AAAAAAAAD3c/r77St92QZdM/s800/Scott-Beacon-66-LG.jpg

Another great shot from above with Dave dropping the Hammer! One thing to notice is that the rear tires are a little further back than before??? Well true!!! The rear end was moved back about 3" in this phase. I will show the evidence of this soon but for now you gotta take my word for it! It was an easy way to put the motor out without completely rear halving the car....

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQ45SzB4-II/AAAAAAAAD3Y/CPHHO0dTS5M/s800/BEEBE-Dave1.jpg

Here we have the car still in Blue but with a new Shoe in the seat... Now John Mulligan has the reigns and we are entering the mid 1967 era....

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQ478wxTy4I/AAAAAAAAD34/3EXuSYhMgYU/s640/BeebeBros%26Sixt-JohnMulligan-Lions1967-HutchPhoto.jpg

Not too long after this we get the BIG change in the car... It rolls into Frank Huzars shop, RCS, and gets the front half treatment! Take a look!

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQ45Thc2JOI/AAAAAAAAD3g/azZ9hbmpdmE/s800/BeebeBro-SixtvTony-Waters-w.jpg

Some sissy bars are added to the rear section as seen in this shot...

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQ45UA4ir3I/AAAAAAAAD3k/lbOilyvM19A/s640/img150.jpg

And here's a great one of Mulligan get'n hot!!!!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQ45VWim5PI/AAAAAAAAD30/qZP7Ey9phng/s800/bbfd_tw.jpg

Wait.... What's all this talk about Mulligan???? Wait, Beebe and Mulligan??? That right... Dave and Lee Sixt had moved on at this point and a new core team was tearing up the tracks all over LA as well as out of the state.... Tearing up calls for a true fancy look! It's BIG TIME BOYS!!! Over to Hanna's shop and lets get some tin work!

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQ45VF4-vKI/AAAAAAAAD3w/pbDHgsYQi_I/s800/beebe37-Swaim-CC5-68.jpg

And there you have it! Ready for the 1968 season and the classic look we all know so well.... The Fighting Irish are now on the scene and ready for action!

Fire the next Pair!!!

~Robert

KING CHASSIS
12-20-2010, 05:41 AM
Another great shot from above with Dave dropping the Hammer! One thing to notice is that the rear tires are a little further back than before??? Well true!!! The rear end was moved back about 3" in this phase. I will show the evidence of this soon but for now you gotta take my word for it! It was an easy way to put the motor out without completely rear halving the car....
~Robert[/QUOTE]


I at one time owned a Dragmaster car that someone had moved the rearend back quite a few inches. Dont remember how much. But quite a few. I guess it was more common than I thought.

Very interesting story you have going. Thanks, Brian

THE-SYNDICATE
12-20-2010, 03:16 PM
The car first started out with an Olds Rear End as did most of the cars of that era but was quickly changed over to a 8 3/4" Chrysler rear end. According to Lee this happened pretty soon as they were breaking the Olds constantly... Then they did the move back about 3". You can see the Double rear-end uprights very clear in these pictures....

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQ479CSGS-I/AAAAAAAAD38/ENPzHeINnsQ/s800/salute-5-middle-right.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQ4799_j57I/AAAAAAAAD4E/qQyWU47dnn4/s800/salute-6-top.jpg

And then you can see some of the inside details from this Bitchin X-Ray Drawing that was done of the car.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQ45UdpUD8I/AAAAAAAAD3o/8N1YYdIQ0Yk/s640/beebe35-Moore-CC5-68%20%281%29.jpg

More Data!!!

willysguy
12-20-2010, 03:52 PM
Cool to see you are running one of Jim's oil pumps. It's a small world. Jim has been around Hemis's since day one. He helped me a lot on my blown 392 including a beautiful job porting the heads & intake.

THE-SYNDICATE
12-20-2010, 04:18 PM
Cool to see you are running one of Jim's oil pumps. It's a small world. Jim has been around Hemis's since day one. He helped me a lot on my blown 392 including a beautiful job porting the heads & intake.

Yeah Jim is awesome!!! Huge help... Really knows his SHIT! I have several pages of notes from him on tips and tricks for the motor. I've got to check one more thing but I'm about read to fill the block up this next week and let it cure before hauling it in for the final machine work...

This just arrived today!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQ_V6GbufyI/AAAAAAAAD4M/jJ-HKp3tatE/s640/74682_1773254056334_1388779142_1967355_5719589_n.j pg

RossPreen
12-21-2010, 06:22 PM
Hey Robert.
I only just found this thread, you've been holding out on me mate :) great progress reports........you're havin too much fun with this.
Keep it up, you're being watched :D
Ross.

bobhoneybrook
12-22-2010, 04:07 AM
Hi Robert. The progress is amazing, at the rate you are going I think I will book my trip to the 2011 CHRR as soon as possible. Good luck with the build. Bobh

3rd Gen Hot Rodder
12-22-2010, 05:44 AM
Just located this thread and have subscribed. One thing you will notice is how quick to help all of guys involved with cacklecars are. Having been involved with the NHRR cacklefests (see link in my signature for details), I can attest to this first hand. Good Luck with your build Robert. You are off to a great start. At this pace, you might have it done for 2011 NHRR:)

musclecarjohn
12-22-2010, 12:07 PM
Subscribed for sure...I love this car and have for years!
I have that drag racing magazine article and was just going through it the other day...weird.

Everything about that car is cool,from the color scheme to the dark-colored butterflies and headers...it's just the ultimate early FED dragster to me.;)

Looking forward to more progress pics...I was in the wine biz for many years,what winery do you work for Rob?

The Mandrill
12-22-2010, 12:33 PM
Awesome build/thread! Cant wait to see the final piece. My dad and "The Zookeeper" were tight so I have always been interested in anything he drove. Keep posting......

THE-SYNDICATE
12-22-2010, 02:45 PM
Hey Robert.
I only just found this thread, you've been holding out on me mate :) great progress reports........you're havin too much fun with this.
Keep it up, you're being watched :D
Ross.

Hi Robert. The progress is amazing, at the rate you are going I think I will book my trip to the 2011 CHRR as soon as possible. Good luck with the build. Bobh

A little back ground here folks... These 2 fine gentlemen along with Rod Bradshaw are THE driving force behind the bounty hunt currently going on in Australia. If it were not for these guys, "Mate's" I would still be in the dark on a bunch of shit. I can't say enough about the dedication and support thru this deal... And I can't wait to toss back a few with them in person!

Cheers,

Robert M.

bobhoneybrook
12-23-2010, 06:28 AM
Mate when we toss a few down it will be your Shout! So dont toss too many down or it will be at your expense.

THE-SYNDICATE
12-23-2010, 05:29 PM
Just located this thread and have subscribed. One thing you will notice is how quick to help all of guys involved with cacklecars are. Having been involved with the NHRR cacklefests (see link in my signature for details), I can attest to this first hand. Good Luck with your build Robert. You are off to a great start. At this pace, you might have it done for 2011 NHRR:)

Amen to that... The outpour of help has been nuts.... I have learned that when in doubt you MUST ask the question... You never know what will come up when your chatting with someone! It's also amazing what will turn up on the 2nd phone call...

Subscribed for sure...I love this car and have for years!
I have that drag racing magazine article and was just going through it the other day...weird.

Everything about that car is cool,from the color scheme to the dark-colored butterflies and headers...it's just the ultimate early FED dragster to me.;)

Looking forward to more progress pics...I was in the wine biz for many years,what winery do you work for Rob?

John, I hear ya! This car have been my Favorite since I was a little boy... It just says RaceCar to me... Super simple Super plain.... Nothing but Haul-Ass material...

On the wine front... I am in the Custom Crush business with a few other guys and we own:

"Copain Custom Crush" www.copaincustomcrush.com

Cool place and a bit crazy at times! :) We knock out about 60,000 cases per year spread across about 35 different labels. All good stuff!! And lots of it is Pinot Noir!!!

THE-SYNDICATE
12-23-2010, 05:41 PM
Here's the latest pice of Yum Yum to arrive..... I have been struggling like a SOB to find one of these Hats. Yep It's an Enderle Bug Catcher... But, It's the original ShowerHead style that had a thin mounting flange, and the 2 side ports to take the nozzles in it. Well I could have bought a new one and done some cutting and hacking but I really wanted the Right Stuff. All it took was asking the question! I posted this to a Drag race e-mail group that I'm on and had 2 offeres in less than 24 hrs.

Funny Side Note.... I also posted this to the Nostalgia Funny Car Board, in their Classifieds Section. I had lots of looky loo's but only one response. Classic Scam'ing Proposition from some Ass-Hole. I knew it right away but I continued to dick with him for a bit before he finally bowed out!!

So anyways... On with the goods! Check this thing out! PRIMO....

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TRPcU_kiLDI/AAAAAAAAD4g/EHDLy0SgcGw/s640/hat2.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TRPcVQWxfDI/AAAAAAAAD4k/7Ijoze8nlzs/s640/hat1.jpg

Riceman had a Barrel Valve and I just need to redo the anodizing on those butterflies to match the orig version.... So Slick!

Payne
12-23-2010, 07:28 PM
Subscribed, I can't wait to watch the car come together.

musclecarjohn
12-23-2010, 10:18 PM
That's a great blower/hat Robert,perfect for the project!:D
Like I said,I love the cover of that Drag Racing magazine...always have.;)

Got you on the custom crush biz,now I know why you're busy during the season.
You know the area I'm in (Santa Lucia Highlands) really is producing some awesome pinot fruit.

Anyhows,enough wine talk,lol...can't wait for more updates.

rooman
12-26-2010, 09:37 PM
Robert,
I thought that these might help. They were taken at Surfers Paradise Raceway in 1970 when the ex Beebe/Kolb car was the "house car" for the track. I liked the chassis and as it was naked in their shop I took these pix for reference. Somewhere I also have one of the car being pushed with the body installed but I figured that these would be more of a help to you. At the time the car was backed by Ampol Petroleum and was painted red, white and blue.
I am pretty sure that at the time that the Dave West re-pop of the second green car was unveiled at the NHRA Museum Jim Read still had the front wing from the car as he was talking to Tim about his (Read's) ownership of the car (when he put it back to the Fighting Irish paint scheme).
Sorry that the pix are not the greatest but they were shot without flash in the shop which was under the track offices at Surfers.

Roo

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t18/aussierooman/img002.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t18/aussierooman/img005-1.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t18/aussierooman/img003.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t18/aussierooman/img004.jpg

Roo

THE-SYNDICATE
12-26-2010, 09:41 PM
OMG..... That's the info I need!!! Rooman, thank you SO MUCH!!!! Those are great shots!!! And there's that damn brake handle.... Right there along side the center section!!!!


Super Awesome....

This coupled with arriving home tonight to the Original 1968 Beebe & Fedak RCS steering wheel just seals the Holiday Season right up...

Time for a drink and to enjoy the smile that's on my face!!!

Best Regards,

Robert M.

THE-SYNDICATE
12-26-2010, 10:42 PM
And here we have it!!!! Thanks to Sweeney for this Bitchin Piece of History....

He and I have had about a week and a half of Puckered AssHole waiting for the Good Ole USPS to deliver this... Seems so simple... Pop it in the Priority Box and get it on the way!!! Sure it's the Holidays but 15 days to get from LA to Nor-Cal??? Wow.... We were both sweating this one BIG TIME...

But here it is.... Home with me and will be perfect in this car!!!! The stories this could tell.....

Happy Holidays,

Robert M.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TRgYODOwXgI/AAAAAAAAD40/-ZVb9CuIaog/s640/photo-13.JPG

rooman
12-27-2010, 06:04 AM
Robert,
it took me about 2 hours of searching through two boxes of transparencies to find the pix and then I had to load the scanner software into my home computer but it was worth it judging by your response. I just wish that the pix were better.
Back in the day my mates were always on my arse about taking lots of pix but sometimes they come in handy. I also have quite a few of my Soapy Sales car from the day that it made its debut at Calder Park in Melbourne and they are going to be invaluable when I finally get to the restoration.

Roo

Pir8Darryl
12-27-2010, 07:03 AM
Too cool! I'll be watching this build!!!

THE-SYNDICATE
12-27-2010, 08:58 AM
Robert,
it took me about 2 hours of searching through two boxes of transparencies to find the pix and then I had to load the scanner software into my home computer but it was worth it judging by your response. I just wish that the pix were better.
Back in the day my mates were always on my arse about taking lots of pix but sometimes they come in handy. I also have quite a few of my Soapy Sales car from the day that it made its debut at Calder Park in Melbourne and they are going to be invaluable when I finally get to the restoration.

Roo

Roo,

"Invaluable" is the key word... Nobody has turned up a Body off set of pics for this car to date... Yes, the 1968 "Salute to the Top Rail" has a pretty good spread:

http://beebe-mulligan.com/toprail1.shtml

I have been mulling thru but these pics, "See page 3, & 4," But your new pictures are the ones that clear a bunch of shit up....

That 2nd photograph confirms what I have been thinking all along.. This car is VERY similar to the Ed Pink "Old Master" Fueler that was built by Don Long:

http://www.wediditforlove.com/techtalk18.html

The upper frame rail has the classic bend right at the rear-end uprights. I knew something was up as I was trying to draw lines over a photograph I have to represent the frame rails. Each time I drew a line for the upper rail it always intersected the motor plate a bit to high... Well that would say that the upper rail had the kink/bend in it but the photos from the article I have seen never really confirmed that. These do....

And the Brake handle/master cylinder info is HUGE.... The 3rd photo show the simple little bracket dropping down from the 3rd member and supporting the little Girling Cylinder.

Too Cool....

Again a Million Thanks.... You can never have enough pictures!!!

Rebel 1
12-27-2010, 09:06 AM
Good luck. Looks like you have a great start.

retro rodder
12-27-2010, 09:23 AM
Just located this thread and have subscribed. just wondering though where'd you find the breathers and what kind are they.

THE-SYNDICATE
12-27-2010, 09:30 AM
Just located this thread and have subscribed. just wondering though where'd you find the breathers and what kind are they.

I found these from Steve Sellar's in San Jose. He had them cast several years ago and offers them along with many other parts and pieces...

Here's my buddy Dan Stoner's T coupe:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TRiwLhE6jNI/AAAAAAAAD44/u_HwR7T3WLg/s800/StonerT.jpg

I saw this pic and ask'ed, Hey where's those come from??? Dan gave me the 411 and I ordered up a set. I'm not sure how many more Steve has but if you need them it's worth the call....

http://www.hubgarage.com/mygarage/SellersEquipped

Cheers,

Robert M.

DocWatson
12-27-2010, 10:11 AM
What a great thread! Building an old T/F as faithfully as this is a fantastic tribute.
I do have one question though, you said the remains of the car are 100ft underground......WTF??

Doc.

Rich B.
12-27-2010, 10:41 AM
Here;s a pic from New York Nat. Speedway, and a link
to a bunch of old pics.

http://picasaweb.google.com/rcktscie...45586578449026

THE-SYNDICATE
12-27-2010, 10:46 AM
Here;s a pic from New York Nat. Speedway, and a link
to a bunch of old pics.

http://picasaweb.google.com/rcktscie...45586578449026

Great Shot! That car is the 1969 Woody Gilmore ride that was built as a replacement to the Original Ride. This is the car that Dave west has recreated and hauls out for everyone to see each year at the CHRR. So Bitchin.... A perfect RePop!

http://beebe-mulligan.com/

Dave has been very helpful in this project... Lots of Data as well as parting with the CHERRY Cirello Magneto...

Cheers,

Robert M.

musclecarjohn
12-27-2010, 11:24 AM
Hey Robert,
Here's a pic I found on file,I was at Infineon attending the Wine Country Classics (vintage road race cars including Trans-Am & Can-Am) a few years back,I'm walking past the locked garages and the roll-up door was up about 1 foot so I got down on my knees...and I see this...sitting in the garage all by itself:
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p3/topfueljohn/DSC03996.jpg

I figure it might have been there being stored to be displayed at the NHRA race...just a guess...but I thought you might enjoy seeing it.;)
Obviously this was the only pic I could take.;)

KING CHASSIS
12-28-2010, 05:56 AM
Just located this thread and have subscribed. just wondering though where'd you find the breathers and what kind are they.

He says at the begining of this thread . That they came from Sellers Equipt. Just google Sellers or search in the for sale section here on the HAMB to find Sellers.

KING CHASSIS
12-28-2010, 06:03 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Just noticed he already answered your question.

Boss Hydro
12-28-2010, 08:18 AM
Very COOL thread..! I look forward to following along! You sure do move fast!
Good luck and enjoy!


Rocky

THE-SYNDICATE
04-24-2011, 11:15 PM
OK.... It's been a bit since the last post... Sorry about that! Plenty going on on right now!

There's some ultra cool data about the project soon to come but for now I will put up a few snappies for shits and giggles....

Tonight I started massaging the spindles for the front end:

Trim, cut, love them with the grinder...

THE-SYNDICATE
04-24-2011, 11:18 PM
What a great thread! Building an old T/F as faithfully as this is a fantastic tribute.
I do have one question though, you said the remains of the car are 100ft underground......WTF??

Doc.


Doc... No shit.. Here's where this old beast lives! She's in the Tip @ Holroyd Gardens!

Bad Daddy
04-25-2011, 12:41 AM
Wow, a historic dragster build right in my own backyard! This build is a lot of fun to watch.

THE-SYNDICATE
04-25-2011, 12:48 AM
Wow, a historic dragster build right in my own backyard! This build is a lot of fun to watch.

Hey Man! I just saw your coupe Saturday driving thru town... I was walking back to my wife's little retail shop in Healdsburg and you went zipping thru the intersection! I'm like, wow Bitchin 5-winda!!!

Cheers,

Robert M

mgtstumpy
04-25-2011, 01:55 AM
Awesome thread, love the authenticity. I'll be watching this with interest to see how things progress.

By the way the way, the old Surfers Paradise Raceway was sold to the Japanese who developed it into a housing estate. It took a few years before we got another dragstrip and it's miles away, not on the glamour strip of the Gold Coat (Q'ld)

Gotta love those old FE dragsters and gassers. Keep up the good work, I'm sure everyone certainly appreciates your attention to detail.

THE-SYNDICATE
04-25-2011, 10:20 AM
So in the process of getting this Iron Beast ready for duty we needed to fill the block with Dis Har Cement.... Here's a few pics of me and #1 helper getting the job done! This was carried out about a month ago and the block is now ready to head in for the machine work. We wanted the filler to completely cure before we start whittling on the thing.

Cheers,

Robert

THE-SYNDICATE
04-25-2011, 10:27 AM
I had snapped up a Crower Roller cam that came from a Blown Alch combo many months back and I knew the cam wasn't going to work for Fuel, but I did know that I could get the CAM I wanted out of it. It was super big but had the correct lobe centers so I snapped it up at a low price and stashed it away. After some consulting with Gene Adams he recommended a great classic grind from Engle. Simple deal... I shipped it down and they transformed it into Nitro Material for $125.00. Here's Max with his new Cam! Maybe he'll take it to show and tell at school? ;-)

Cheers,

Robert M.

THE-SYNDICATE
04-25-2011, 10:39 AM
Time for a touch more history.... Ya gotta love these old clipping from Drag News Etc! Luckily Richard Beebe had a HUGE stash of goodies that he was so gracious to share with me!

Here's some Yum Yum for ya:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TbWUEfHr9TI/AAAAAAAAEGI/A_SJHJH8F8E/s640/Beebe%20Bros.%20%26%20Sixt_0009.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TbWT-TuZTdI/AAAAAAAAEFY/Y4aw_sJqYiQ/s640/Beebe%20Bros.%20%26%20Sixt_0035.jpg

And another!!!
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TbWUEwH-OHI/AAAAAAAAEGM/aYTF-oUVISQ/s640/Beebe%20Bros.%20%26%20Sixt_0007.jpg

And then let's toss in some good old Trash Talk'n with the fellow So-Cal racers!!! Gotta love it!
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TbWT9ROx-yI/AAAAAAAAEFQ/b59MODO8XOs/s640/Beebe%20Bros.%20%26%20Sixt_0029-1.jpg

Kustom Linez
04-25-2011, 05:52 PM
Subscribed!

THE-SYNDICATE
04-25-2011, 07:54 PM
As with all of this Old Shit something is bound to be bad or broken along the way.... Case in point, Crankshafts.... I hauled both cranks into Mike at Ashland for the Wet-Mag process and to get a clean bill of health on them. I thought for sure that the one crank which was basically Bone-Stock would be fine and I was suspect of the other "Race" unit. Well turns out the stocker was ultimate DOG-SHIT and the Race Crank is salvageable but for now not worth dicking around with.

Here's the "Race" crank that will just get tucked away for a rainy day:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TbWT_TIYL4I/AAAAAAAAEFg/6MToeolemSg/s640/IMG_2193.JPG

Here's the slew of possible donors!!! Mike assured me he had one that would be just dandy!
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TbWT_ya-jwI/AAAAAAAAEFk/xK5q-BQW31c/s640/IMG_2196.JPG

And here is the sexiest Damn Crank Grinding MAchine I have ever seen....
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TbWT-2IvYwI/AAAAAAAAEFc/rCNBx3r2Vuo/s640/IMG_2194.JPG

Have no fear... We will end up with a good one after all...

:-)

Robert M.

Bad Daddy
04-25-2011, 09:02 PM
And then let's toss in some good old Trash Talk'n with the fellow So-Cal racers!!! Gotta love it!
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TbWT9ROx-yI/AAAAAAAAEFQ/b59MODO8XOs/s640/Beebe%20Bros.%20%26%20Sixt_0029-1.jpg
This is classic!

THE-SYNDICATE
04-27-2011, 10:06 AM
Another little piece to add to the pile.... So thanks to Mr. Tom Hanna who "called it" I began a long extensive search for this mysterious little piece. There was something odd about the remote oil filter deal on this car and I couldn't find anything like it out there on the market! I figured it would be some early Milidon Deal, or possibly Donovan Etc??? Search after search and nothing came up. That's when Tom said, I think that's BUICK???

BUICK??? WTF? Well turns out he was right! 1959~1960 Buick that is.... And nothing else! Lee Sixt machined up a trick bracket that clamped to the frame just ahead of the motor and then bolted this little piece right to the front of it! Whamo! Spin On filters readily Available from the parts house and we're on our way! Well I found one... And it wasn't cheap... But ya gotta have it!

Take a look:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TbgwkNaA2yI/AAAAAAAAEGc/T1omyZ8xBzo/s640/IMG_0598.jpg

Here's the MAGIC piece.....
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TbWUAXqr6eI/AAAAAAAAEFo/XRzp81D_Pck/s640/IMG_2325.JPG

And Again....
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TbWUA28EWrI/AAAAAAAAEFs/sosYTwnntsU/s640/IMG_2327.JPG

THE-SYNDICATE
05-12-2011, 10:20 AM
A little bit more work!!! I needed to build an extension to my Chassis table in order to support the entire length of the frame. This front section will unbolt and hang from the wall after the car is done but will provide an excellent work surface for assembling the car. The remaining table, which is 8ft long, serves as a regular work bench in my shop. Here's a few snappies:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/Tcv5AeQ-KbI/AAAAAAAAEIw/JhwqY6OhDv8/s640/IMG_3719.JPG

And then connected up to the back table:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/Tcv20ya9_GI/AAAAAAAAEHo/I6V_p_pnF6Y/s640/IMG_3721.JPG

The front axle as well as the rear end will need some good solid support fixtures to keep things lined up during the build process. These will be bolted down to the table and will be adjustable to allow for different wheelbases... Ya know... In case I build another one of these... :)

Here's some pics of the Rear-End supports. Note, the holes in the lower section are for supporting the lower frame rail as it hangs below the rear end.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/Tcv2xJPTifI/AAAAAAAAEHE/c7HKGscpJGI/s640/IMG_3742.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/Tcv2yTw9_aI/AAAAAAAAEHM/RMQsu7TzzNc/s640/IMG_3744.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/Tcv2z610WlI/AAAAAAAAEHY/qr2p_DHVldU/s640/IMG_3747.jpg

Cheers,

Robert M.

JeffreyJames
05-12-2011, 11:16 AM
Damn I am excited I found this thread!!! SO fucking awesome man and I am stoked for you!! All the parts are comign together nicely and I love the documentation.

THE-SYNDICATE
05-12-2011, 11:37 AM
Damn I am excited I found this thread!!! SO fucking awesome man and I am stoked for you!! All the parts are comign together nicely and I love the documentation.

Ah yes!!! Mr. James!! Glad you found it! The story is developing quite nice but the freaky data is yet to come... Stand By for much more cool shit in the near future!

Cheers,

Berta

Muttley
05-12-2011, 02:25 PM
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k600/hambpicturestwentytwo/BeebeBrothersVinsonSixt.jpg

JeffreyJames
05-12-2011, 02:29 PM
Not to be a nerd in such a cool thread but what app are you using for the Kodak pictures? I seen that you're using a Mac book PRO so I know there also has to be a iPhone accompanying it right? Everything looks rad!!!

THE-SYNDICATE
05-12-2011, 03:34 PM
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k600/hambpicturestwentytwo/BeebeBrothersVinsonSixt.jpg

Super Bitchin!!!! Cover shot from Drag Racing Magazine '66!! Love it.

THE-SYNDICATE
05-12-2011, 03:37 PM
Not to be a nerd in such a cool thread but what app are you using for the Kodak pictures? I seen that you're using a Mac book PRO so I know there also has to be a iPhone accompanying it right? Everything looks rad!!!

Yeah Dude I'm hella stoked on the Polaroid deal... It's a fun way to share the pics and kinda puts the mild patina on things... I use the iPhone to document all my work and the APP for this is "ShakeItPhoto"... I shoot damn near everything this way...

Cheers,

Berta

Muttley
05-12-2011, 06:53 PM
Super Bitchin!!!! Cover shot from Drag Racing Magazine '66!!

Yep, thats what I scanned it from. ;)

THE-SYNDICATE
05-12-2011, 08:25 PM
So here's another little detail that y'all might find groovy. Now I'm not finished with these but hopefully by the weekend they should be wrapped up. Then they will need to go in for Chrome to be just right! The car was built on a pretty strict budget back in '65 and there was not many items on the car that Lee Sixt didn't build himself! Including the rear water necks. Pipe Fittings seem to work! Let's have a little look:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TbWT85hweCI/AAAAAAAAEFM/I6reDdZM9QM/s640/Beebe%20Bros.%20%26%20Sixt_0003.jpg

Here's another close up....
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TcyG20qH-mI/AAAAAAAAEI4/szxRtCVO434/s800/salute-7-top.jpg

Well... Easy! Just grab some 3/4" pipe and get after it! The caps today look like shit so I needed to give'um a little shave and cut in the lathe first:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/Tcv27pssq2I/AAAAAAAAEIY/ll6bQ4YWCOE/s640/IMG_3732.JPG

A little side by side for comparison!
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/Tcv28wijV-I/AAAAAAAAEIg/nSvXajUGX_0/s640/IMG_3734.JPG

Then a little Slice-o-matic with the band-saw and we have what we need! I will make a few more adjustments and then buzz these up with the TIG. I need to add the little nipple coming out the bottom that had the line running down to the zoomies for overflow.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/Tcv28T4oxqI/AAAAAAAAEIc/84Y2bfxr_jI/s640/IMG_3733.JPG

Well... More news soon...

Cheers,

Robert M.

THE-SYNDICATE
05-12-2011, 08:40 PM
And now it's time for a bit more history..... In print and picture format.... :) I love this shit!!

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TcyLC8ris3I/AAAAAAAAEJI/ZKdUd-tW02M/s640/IMG_1550.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TcyLDpVxIwI/AAAAAAAAEJM/tSe2-YayPcI/s640/Beebe%20Bros.%20%26%20Sixt_0005.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TcyLCRHxPcI/AAAAAAAAEJE/fFicIggxmQU/s640/bbmPDA.jpg

And this neat little trinket..... AWESOME!!!!!
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TcyLEmrRsgI/AAAAAAAAEJU/bvCFL6KyXYU/s640/Beebe%20Bros.%20%26%20Sixt_0015.jpg

Enjoy!!!

Robert M.

jfrolka
05-12-2011, 10:42 PM
Looks like a very fun alternative to racing, that first hard cackle is gonna be the shit!

THE-SYNDICATE
05-12-2011, 11:09 PM
Looks like a very fun alternative to racing, that first hard cackle is gonna be the shit!

I can't wait!!!! Are you the fella from Sebastopol with the J/F car???? Just asking due to you avatar???

RossPreen
05-12-2011, 11:48 PM
Hey Robert, just reading your signature...........it better be close throttle then hit the mag, or it will be BOOM! :D
Ross.

jfrolka
05-12-2011, 11:50 PM
No im from ventura area, just race the n/e 7.60 class in a neil&parks car

jfrolka
06-06-2011, 11:12 PM
anything new?

THE-SYNDICATE
06-06-2011, 11:20 PM
anything new?

Big news soon.... Currently working on the Master & Richter car with Roger Lee.... More parts on the way and really cool shit coming up!

:)

~Robert M.

Mattbee
06-07-2011, 04:55 AM
Wow! Great build!!!

Jimbo17
06-07-2011, 05:16 AM
I wanted to Thank You for posting all the great shots of the project.

For me it was like taking a trip down memory lane.

What a wonderful piece of history for so many of us who followed and read about the the great Bebee Brothers car.

My wife's favor saying is the boy's grew up but the father never did.

Hate to say but shes right I just thought the late 50's and the 60's were such a great time for drag racers and as a kid watching the whole thing was really a trip.

Thanks for sharing the pictures. Jimbo

RAY With
06-07-2011, 05:52 AM
First I have seen of this build and enjoying every minute. Can't hardly wait until you post some more up dates.Years back I use to keep up with these guys and never a dull moment. Thanks for all the pics and time spent doing it!

Beep
06-07-2011, 07:55 AM
I love the water filler tubes. I have the same thing on my old car. People chuckle when they see them and ask what they are for. When I tell them, they say what? You ran water in the engine? I also have the 1/4 tubing running from the caps to the headers. NHRA frowned upon that and Said "put water on the track and your outta here dude". The tube now run to army canteens.

THE-SYNDICATE
06-13-2011, 09:35 AM
Got Pipe??? Fresh delivery from my good Man Roger Lee... We are putting the finishing touches on his Master & Richter AA/FD right now in my shop and after a good clean up the work can commence on the car.... So Bitchin! I am very honored to be working with Roger on his project... We have fun for sure!

Here's the Pile -o- Pipe!

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fetuVmQa8iQ/TfYe7SYJQAI/AAAAAAAAEM8/vtN75lNAEa8/s640/IMG_4392.jpg

And here's a few pics from Roger's Car... You can see his build thread here if you like?

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=583004&showall=1

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-G2k0Atvn4VE/TfYe6rUD9JI/AAAAAAAAEM4/G9Vl-k9mvcQ/s640/IMG_4365.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-CtdSR_vH3AU/TfYe6On69fI/AAAAAAAAEM0/k3lysLjDQ2E/s640/IMG_4358.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-teXWVnv1ZjQ/TfYe49ELkQI/AAAAAAAAEMw/qXdPha_TvZ8/s640/IMG_4354.JPG


Cheers,

Robert M.

THE-SYNDICATE
06-22-2011, 05:58 PM
Another little trinket arrived yesterday from Tom Hanna. The ever so rare RCS bell housing! Not a real common item and it's absolutely critical that this part is here for the build! The steering box lays right down on top of this thing and tucks under the cowl. This has a 2 step taper on the sides and is the only one made this way. Lakewood's are similar and could pass in a pinch but this is the real deal!

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-v4xkOIMNNjI/TgJzUG9mTgI/AAAAAAAAEPY/un5HIl5xHdA/s640/IMG_5130.JPG

More news soon,

Robert M.

jipp
06-22-2011, 09:43 PM
im impressed. iv been watching these classics on youtube since finish reading, you are gonna have a blast.. look forward to the future updates.. now off to your friends build thread :)

THE-SYNDICATE
07-06-2011, 07:31 AM
Hey Folks,

Just got an ever so important package from Ronnie Hampshire today in the mail and thought I should share... Ronnie was ever so helpful to supply me with Patterns from all the various RCS front torsion bar pieces! Side plates, arms, etc.... Super Cool!!! These will get traced and cut up here shortly. I can then weld them up onto the Original RCS torsion Tube that was supplied by Frank Fedak. I'm so excited for all the support and help I'm receiving from the various folks out there in order to pull this off!! Oh, and he tossed in a mint set of Spark Plug porcelains... So Bitchin...

Here's a photo for ya!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0hYpWay13KY/ThRVJzageWI/AAAAAAAAEQE/WqywTpvhLKM/s640/photo-27.JPG

Best Regards,

Robert

JeffreyJames
07-06-2011, 08:00 AM
Awesome dude!!! I love these updates.

THE-SYNDICATE
07-06-2011, 09:21 AM
Let’s have a little story....

Some of this History is a repeat from earlier in the post, but I think it's good to take it from the top and revisit some of it leading up the the NEW NEWS that we have!

First off, this project has taken me on a little trip I would have never imagined. Going back to the beginning when I decided to recreate this Bitchin piece of history I had no idea what it's life was beyond the 1966 photos of the car wearing it's Purple Paint and tearing up the LA strips.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Zu2Byv7fGvQ/TQK298o7yuI/AAAAAAAADyg/AsH5Or5_fIA/s640/BB%252520Bros%252520%252526%252520Sixt%25252C%2525 20Bond%252520Photo.jpg
All I knew, was that it was cool and was "HANDS DOWN" my Favorite car since reading that magazine for the first time in John Shoemaker's living room at the young age of 12. A lasting impression you might say... This car is the epitome of a Top Fuel Dragster, and for a good solid year back in '66, this car Tore-Ass on the LA boys putting up one hell of a fight. As the project research begins, I start to unearth what really happened with the car beyond my narrow little scope. I learned that Dave Beebe drove for the majority of the time but, sometime in 1967 another certain someone climbed into the seat, John Mulligan. Wow!!! The start of the Beebe and Mulligan legacy was in this car?? Well come to find out John had been involved with the Beebe family for quite awhile and was once the driver of the little Fuel altered etc, but after the Adams, Wayre, & Mulligan AA/FD, this was his next ride. Moving on with the process of gathering pictures here and there, and all of a sudden I notice the car is much longer!
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZZqpQcC5n5w/TQ45Thc2JOI/AAAAAAAAD3g/P82Y9ziJQoQ/s800/BeebeBro-SixtvTony-Waters-w.jpg
Turns out that sometime in '67 the chassis makes it's way into the shop at Huzar's and get a whole new front half. Still charging hard with ZOOK in the seat they drag it over to another guys shop for a little face lift. Mr. Tom Hanna... No Shit!!! This is the first Green Car???
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bow1D04rCh4/ThXr3boksjI/AAAAAAAAERc/ZTOq2tPuYlo/s800/Beebemul.jpg
Wow!! I had no idea! You see, I was always under the impression that the Fighting Irish deal was the one and only car that has now been brought back so perfectly by Dave West and Pat Foster? But sure enough, as you look thru the photos and chase the time line this was car number 1... I never knew until now.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-IhTZoO8Rgwo/ThXp5tJud3I/AAAAAAAAERE/DqzajUlO9IA/s640/Beebe%252520%252526%252520Mulligan%2525203.jpg
Then comes Phase II, or Phase IV??? Who knows... But the the story get's interesting here! Thanks to the tireless effort of Don Ewald's site I spent many an hour coming thru every possible photo I could drum up! Who's this guy with his head sticking up way beyond the roll bar??? Oh, why it's Leland Kolb!
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Kgkar7U-IzM/ThXr2KgX-fI/AAAAAAAAERU/sI1K1a5SPGY/s800/Bakersfield-150dpi-40.jpg
Well turns out he bought the car and after making a few blasts down the 1320 here and there he crated it up and shipped it down under! Hmmm.... OK, so now the car is in Australia still wearing the Green Stripe paint job and still lettered as B&M! Cool! Surfers Paradise Dragstrip now had their very own Top Fuel Car!! The car get’s a new roll cage and a repaint and continues to be campaigned by Peter Dykes for quite some time until one hard evening of racing in which the entire motor ejects itself from the frame in a blaze of glory!!! The remaining car and pieces were sold that evening to and up and coming racer from the Sydney area known by the name of Jim Read. He proceeds to completely rebuild and restore this fine machine back to 100% condition along with bringing back the Multi Green Stripe Paint job! The car is absolutely gorgeous and continues to thrill the crowds!
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-M-iVadKKgLY/ThXp6U2imwI/AAAAAAAAERI/6mopE3vdi3A/s800/200276_100655413351434_100002209262515_3807_327771 5_n.jpg
Then after a good run with Read behind the wheel, the car takes and interesting turn and is actually converted to a Rear Engine Dragster by a Mr. Fred Perrotto. This was a drastic change to this once beautiful machine and it certainly signaled the beginning of the end for this now ultra famous and well traveled car. After a short and kinda unclear stint under the control of Mr. Perrotto the car was purchased by a fella named Rod Bradshaw. Rod was ready to set the world on fire with his new acquisition, but after dragging it home and giving it the once over it just wasn’t going to work... So rather than tossing more money at the tired old beast the decision was made to end it’s life and move on. Thankfully... Oh Thankfully... Everything was unbolted from the chassis before the next move. The chassis was hauled over to the Local Dumps in Sydney, known as Holroyd Gardens today, and tossed into the pit. Here’s the last remaining shots of the car while it was at Rod’s house.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3qLkXVJygtQ/ThRuuwiFiYI/AAAAAAAAEQc/4OTS1MiLSEg/s640/73290_476714507648_786392648_5360423_5535390_n-1.jpg
Well there you have it, the short history from beginning to end on this ultra Bitchin piece of Drag Racing history. The part that blows my mind is how much impact this car had on the Racing community not only in the So-Cal area but across the US and then onto the other side of the world after it’s move to Australia. So many faces, and so many places it just goes on and on...

Now for the BIG NEWS! After many years in isolation, tucked away alongside brush saws, blow torches, and other associated trinkets we have recovered the original front axle from the CAR!!!!!

Here’s a quote from Rod I received via email sometime last night:

"THE AXLE HAS LEFT THE BUILDING". Bob came over last night to pick up the axle. It`s now travelled from Pendle Hill, right passed the chassis "burial site" and over to Bobs house at Ashfield - it`s on it`s way. I feel it`s like a real homecoming for the axle.


The key, is that this front axle has been there for the entire journey and now thanks to these great folks it’s coming home and will be mated with the parts I have been working so hard to scavenge and round up! I’m driving to LA late Sunday night and will be meeting a member of the Qantas airlines team who has volunteered to hand carry this thing back to me vs. risking shipment and the unthinkable possibility of loosing this item!

I have attached a few pics....

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-X8AgSqxfOgU/ThRuvhbsf0I/AAAAAAAAEQg/gcgvL9gdFeg/s640/IMG_2317.JPG
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-C2qIoOroBQA/ThRuwRmGz1I/AAAAAAAAEQk/W2WJIL_LFYY/s640/IMG_2313.JPG
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-J3j8kU0pgz8/ThRuw3_qSrI/AAAAAAAAEQo/nObiOuR9e14/s640/IMG_2312.JPG

Fire the next pair!

Robert “Happy Boy” Morris

Tom S. in Tn.
07-06-2011, 02:56 PM
So the front axel we see pictured here from 1967:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQ478wxTy4I/AAAAAAAAD34/3EXuSYhMgYU/s640/BeebeBros%26Sixt-JohnMulligan-Lions1967-HutchPhoto.jpg
is presently back from hiding in Australia and in your possession for the recreation........ unreal !! Simply unreal.
Tom S. in Tn.

THE-SYNDICATE
07-06-2011, 03:10 PM
Hey Tom,

Yep... That's the front axle and it's been there since day 1 when the car was built by Lee Sixt and the Beebe Bros. Even the brackets are all the same and still welded onto the axle. The only thing that is slightly worn is the Chrome. It's being loaded onto the plane Sunday and will arrive in LA Monday morning. This has been in the works for several month now and we have finally linked up with the guy that is going to bring it over.

Super Exciting!

Cheers,

Robert

Tom S. in Tn.
07-07-2011, 07:03 AM
One last question; Do you plan to re-plate it and actually use this piece on the recreated car, or will it be held as an artifact with the car ?
Tom S.

THE-SYNDICATE
07-07-2011, 08:57 AM
One last question; Do you plan to re-plate it and actually use this piece on the recreated car, or will it be held as an artifact with the car ?
Tom S.

Hey Tom,

I am going to try to work the chrome with polish and steel wool first to see how much I can bring back. If it looks OK the car will debut with this piece in "Patina" form. If not I will go thru the process of stripping and re chroming the axle. But for sure it will be a permanent part of the car.

Thanks,

Robert M.

lowtruck
07-07-2011, 09:06 AM
I love all the research and documentation. Keep up the awesome work and thanks for sharing it all with us.

wetspeed
07-07-2011, 09:20 AM
The Original Gang:

Left to Right: Lee Sixt, Tim Beebe, and "The King of Garden Grove" Dave Beebe!

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQK5yR_LaNI/AAAAAAAAD0g/AWt6KdjHDfU/s800/beebe1.jpg

Those were the days... When 3 guy could build a car in a garage and be competitive on a national level in Top Fuel... I bet 20 of the Top Fuel teams would fit in the current main DSR building with the space they had in '68 and still have room for 10 more... ;)

mctim64
07-07-2011, 09:27 AM
Great project! and I love the old pix too.

willysguy
07-07-2011, 09:43 AM
Great progress, thanks for posting!

THE-SYNDICATE
07-07-2011, 11:20 AM
Awesome dude!!! I love these updates.

Yeah Baby!!! Fun Stuff!!

The obtaining of the Front Axle is for sure the Major Crescendo in this deal... I was waiting to start until this piece arrived home and I could fixture it up in the JIG etc. I really wish more parts had surfaced earlier but it's really hard tracking this shit down. With the car changing hands so many times and people picking up and moving etc some items are just MIA. We have a Solid Group right now combing the sands to find other items but only time will tell if more stuff turns up. We think the front wheels might be out there and possible a few other little items. Like I had mentioned, just about everything was unbolted from the car before the frame was tossed out.

Fingers crossed!!!

~Robert M.

THE-SYNDICATE
07-07-2011, 12:35 PM
Just a quick note.. I had to edit the above post to better reflect the time line and the story! Mucho Bettero with all the pics and what not....

More news Later,

Robert M.

THE-SYNDICATE
07-08-2011, 12:23 AM
Another little shot for fun.... How Bout This Shit????
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-M32A926Vyi8/TQOi81t17fI/AAAAAAAAD2A/WInqP11_6fw/s800/launch1.jpg
Too Cool...

born in the wrong era
07-08-2011, 01:52 AM
Really appreciate you sharing this build! This FED is awesome!!! The amount of LOVE and SUPPORT that you and your friends have in this is great! Can't wait to see it in person one day, I can smell the NITRO!

bobhoneybrook
07-10-2011, 02:06 AM
The axel looks good in the Mike Mitchell photo!!

rottenpop
07-10-2011, 04:26 AM
I,m hooked.
Awesome build!

Drewfus
07-10-2011, 05:42 AM
great stuff, super stoked for you to be both re-creating this car, and being able to see your passion through the build, awesome. Glad to see great people unite across the globe, with a pure vision, can only bring great things, which to me the best part of 'hot rodding'.

Thanks for the updates, and look forward to seeing more.

Cheers,

Drewfus:)

Dynaflash_8
07-10-2011, 06:18 AM
This is truly bad ass! i have the FED bug as well, just not the money to throw into one right now. Soon someday.

The amount of original parts on this car will be amazing. Any chance of taking a slow run down the 1320?

THE-SYNDICATE
07-11-2011, 11:24 AM
Fresh from Down Under!!!!
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/jal_mu/a6cd8887-23b4-6e22.jpg

Randy in Oklahoma
07-11-2011, 11:56 AM
Well as you can see from the last few posts Mr. Sweeney has stepped up to the plate with a bitchin piece of history.... That steering wheel has done it's share of Haul'n Ass and it has done so in the hands of Dave Beebe! As well as the years of fun I'm sure it provided for Bill! So classic...

Here's a good shot of the car in it's Heyday that the steering wheel came out of. Dave Beebe started to drive this car in a partnership with Frank back in '68. This would be his new ride after passing the torch to the late John Mulligan in the car I'm building. Take a look:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_24F67nRnjEs/TQgDGloUPdI/AAAAAAAAD2s/qEXF6nr9X9w/s800/Beebe-Fedak-JereAlhadef.jpg

That photo is just too cool..... OCIR, at night, big load in the thing, Staged with the Flames Just right.... And Dave has a firm grip on that very steering wheel... Shit Howdy!!!



When I think back about fuel racing in the sixties, this is the picture that always comes to mind!

exwestracer
07-11-2011, 12:42 PM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fetuVmQa8iQ/TfYe7SYJQAI/AAAAAAAAEM8/vtN75lNAEa8/s640/IMG_4392.jpg


Robert M.

Been jamming thru this thread again at work. At first glance I thought this pic was some kind of bizarre salt flats car! Oh, it's just the table with some parts piled around it... :P

THE-SYNDICATE
07-12-2011, 09:35 PM
This trip down south was F'n amazing..... I will need to go into details later on but for now we should see a few pics....

Here's a pic of Frank and I with the Axle, Front Air Damn plate, and the steering wheel from the Beebe & Fedak AA/FD
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-D28iZ6-XTMU/Thz240lsj1I/AAAAAAAAESI/nzr42wEvrNY/s640/IMG_5653.JPG

A little collection of all the old Beebe & Fedak stuff... MAG body from Hanna and the original steering wheel.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-HwVVnyDggUE/Thz3TVj8yCI/AAAAAAAAESk/_B5Phy0Dhbw/s640/IMG_5664.JPG

Frank's old helmet but with Dave's Visor... KING, The king of Garden Grove!

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-52erAJA4a3Q/Thz3UaPIfpI/AAAAAAAAESo/XC4b4CXj8iE/s640/IMG_5666.JPG

Then the Garden Grove tour.... Here's Jack Wayre's Auto dealership!
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Hfw0S69ZHK8/Thz3AjlqOmI/AAAAAAAAESM/wWkzz8Oy1Kg/s640/IMG_5656.JPG

Here's the first CAVE.. The shop where the car was kept and maintained... McEwen was here as well.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CTxOECHg5o0/Thz3P_yPkII/AAAAAAAAESU/3pEmG54pd7s/s640/IMG_5659.JPG

Then onto the final CAVE... This is where the 1969 Season car was assembled...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gVmHBZ8tdNE/Thz3QfP54RI/AAAAAAAAESY/y98dNKjhlRU/s640/IMG_5660.JPG

Next a trip by the Beebe Bros house where they all were raised! Amazing!!!
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--u2kDK2gn-Y/Thz3O7QjXOI/AAAAAAAAESQ/D5itkxrPX-I/s640/IMG_5658.JPG

Then a little closing shot of Zook.... Here he is at Frank's Mom's Birthday... RIP Johnny...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z1Cp9Z_NMK8/Thz3SIneNSI/AAAAAAAAESg/WNVw9Z0fxOw/s640/IMG_5663.JPG

What a trip...

~Robert M.

KING CHASSIS
07-12-2011, 10:29 PM
Kick ass!!!!! The chrome looks better in your photo here. What is the scoop on that. Cool trip indeed!!!!!!

Cant wait till you fire up the TIG!!!

Keep 'em coming. KING

Tom S. in Tn.
07-13-2011, 06:26 AM
The car looks very good, but the added history and artifact photos here............ absolutely priceless.
This is just fantastic to follow.
Tom S.

THE-SYNDICATE
07-13-2011, 09:04 AM
Kick ass!!!!! The chrome looks better in your photo here. What is the scoop on that. Cool trip indeed!!!!!!

Cant wait till you fire up the TIG!!!

Keep 'em coming. KING

Yeah Baby!!! I'm stoked.... I'll get roll'n here in the next few weeks...

~Robert M.

THE-SYNDICATE
07-13-2011, 02:27 PM
The car looks very good, but the added history and artifact photos here............ absolutely priceless.
This is just fantastic to follow.
Tom S.

Thanks Tom! I'm glad you and the others are enjoying the project. I feel it's important to share this info and let people really know the behind scenes data for these projects. In my opinion its all about the chase... Sure it will be cool to light this thing off and lay down a few burnouts but it's the History and the People that really seal the deal.

More news as it comes.... :)

Robert M.

dreracecar
07-13-2011, 03:01 PM
HEY, lunch is over--get back to work!!

THE-SYNDICATE
07-13-2011, 03:04 PM
HEY, lunch is over--get back to work!!

Eye Eye Captain!!! Thanks again for the chute pack... The more I looked at it I think it's going to be perfect!

Cheers,

Robert

Hightone111
07-13-2011, 05:38 PM
AWESOME! Subscribed. I need more!

THE-SYNDICATE
07-13-2011, 11:49 PM
Lets make some use out of those old RCS Patterns I recieved in the mail... Get to work!!!!

Here we are tracing things out in 1/4" 6061-T6 Alum:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vP0-QkkG9zk/Th50E6PHsVI/AAAAAAAAEUo/uDwKA-VUWEI/s640/280154_2245413420023_1388779142_2672116_2436536_o. jpg

Then we pop some holes in the plate while it's still BIG and easy to hold!
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lugnLUaOEEA/Th50ELBkIfI/AAAAAAAAEUk/ZicX5ySZDeY/s640/265944_2245415180067_1388779142_2672118_6238396_o. jpg

Then we do the old Slice and Dice and get HOT with a file!!! Almost done... Then Polish'um up!
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cOPh9UT2QDI/Th50DmFRj4I/AAAAAAAAEUg/1KOP0niOGzo/s640/280622_2245419740181_1388779142_2672121_4041442_o. jpg

More News Soon....

Robert

TwinTownTerror
07-14-2011, 12:03 AM
This is an awesome thread! Just read through the whole damn thing tonight! Subscribed.

THE-SYNDICATE
07-14-2011, 12:09 AM
This is an awesome thread! Just read through the whole damn thing tonight! Subscribed.

Nice! Thanks Man... It's a fun project and the "Build" data should be getting better as the next month or two rolls along!

Fire the next pair...

Robert M.

RossPreen
07-14-2011, 12:11 AM
Thanks Tom! I'm glad you and the others are enjoying the project. I feel it's important to share this info and let people really know the behind scenes data for these projects. In my opinion its all about the chase... Sure it will be cool to light this thing off and lay down a few burnouts but it's the History and the People that really seal the deal.

More news as it comes.... :)

Robert M.

Robert.
You are so right about that, the journey that we go on to get these Dragsters back is at least half the fun. The people, the places, the disappointments, the excitement it's all part of the experience.
You're doing great mate :)
Ross.

rooman
07-14-2011, 07:49 AM
Robert,
this thread has me all amped up and I have started on my Mr Lucky/Soapy Sales resto while building Ernie Broughton's Commnche re-pop Don Long car. I just found a pic of my car on Les Welch's site that I had not seen before. It was taken at OCIR after the car came back from Oz and Davey Uyehara is driving. As Ross said the best part of this deal is searching out the history and filling in all the background details.
Don Long, Ed Pink, Larry Huff, Dave Uyehara, Tom Hanna, Larry Dixon Sr and Bobby Rex have all helped with details about the car from when Pink first put the deal together back in late 1969.

Roo

lippy
07-14-2011, 08:22 AM
Cool thread. I am watching you guys .:D Lippy (still gathering parts) in Ks.:cool:

THE-SYNDICATE
07-14-2011, 01:43 PM
Robert,
this thread has me all amped up and I have started on my Mr Lucky/Soapy Sales resto while building Ernie Broughton's Commnche re-pop Don Long car. I just found a pic of my car on Les Welch's site that I had not seen before. It was taken at OCIR after the car came back from Oz and Davey Uyehara is driving. As Ross said the best part of this deal is searching out the history and filling in all the background details.
Don Long, Ed Pink, Larry Huff, Dave Uyehara, Tom Hanna, Larry Dixon Sr and Bobby Rex have all helped with details about the car from when Pink first put the deal together back in late 1969.

Roo

Hey Roo,

That's great news! I went over and had a look at the photo from Les! Ultra Bitchin! I have also been keeping up with the progress on Ernie's car via the pics posted on the Standard1320 group. Very Nice.....

Cheers,

Robert

Gasser1961
07-14-2011, 09:37 PM
Robert,
this thread has me all amped up and I have started on my Mr Lucky/Soapy Sales resto while building Ernie Broughton's Commnche re-pop Don Long car. I just found a pic of my car on Les Welch's site that I had not seen before. It was taken at OCIR after the car came back from Oz and Davey Uyehara is driving. As Ross said the best part of this deal is searching out the history and filling in all the background details.
Don Long, Ed Pink, Larry Huff, Dave Uyehara, Tom Hanna, Larry Dixon Sr and Bobby Rex have all helped with details about the car from when Pink first put the deal together back in late 1969.

Roo

Roo,
Keep us updated on your project! I love the Soapy Sales car.

donut29
07-14-2011, 10:30 PM
Cool build

THE-SYNDICATE
07-17-2011, 05:36 PM
Mock-Up time...

Hey Gang,

I want to toss this up on the JIG and just go for it but sometimes I need to see things on the floor before the cutting and slicing starts. Things tend to look a little different when they are 3 ft up in the air vs. sitting on the ground so I felt like burning a few hours taking a look at what will soon be... I'll work a bit more on the rear section next.

Here's some pics for y'all!

Setting up the motor at the proper distance away from the rear-end as well as being at the proper angle.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--euT4bg_Wpg/TiNibeL17LI/AAAAAAAAEVQ/9Ce1_PZDz8U/s640/IMG_5723.JPG

Then we put some pipe in place and have a few views:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-G-RkE138Zfs/TiNicHw0fbI/AAAAAAAAEVU/3EfLfkDX5VE/s640/IMG_5726.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5vxa5zRLbAo/TiNicxm2A5I/AAAAAAAAEVY/Wy1sYgg-6Jg/s640/IMG_5727.JPG
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hQmWtHXkQc0/TiNidPsOBZI/AAAAAAAAEVc/JpaKbXLq_H0/s640/IMG_5729.JPG
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-optI2cCM-68/TiNidqOIY1I/AAAAAAAAEVg/AB5WWPGYMTA/s640/IMG_5730.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Y2_HgavVTFM/TiNieB8rO-I/AAAAAAAAEVk/hiULkli8Uec/s640/IMG_5731.JPG

Happy Trails,

Robert M.

Bad Daddy
07-17-2011, 05:40 PM
Nice, using the Drag Racing magazine for reference. Looking good!

willysguy
07-17-2011, 07:24 PM
Very cool, the deuce roadster ain't bad either.

THE-SYNDICATE
07-17-2011, 08:46 PM
Very cool, the deuce roadster ain't bad either.


Thanks! Yeah the Deuce is just waiting it's turn until it gets finished... If my Wife had any say in the deal it would be done first, but I'm kinda stuck on the Dragster for now. I'll do more mock up work this week and then transfer to the JIG for the real shit next weekend.

Party On!

~Robert M.

THE-SYNDICATE
07-17-2011, 08:48 PM
Nice, using the Drag Racing magazine for reference. Looking good!

For sure!! Thats the issue I have had since 12yrs old... Glad I kept it all these years and glad it's still kinda in one piece!

More news soon,

Robert M.

jfrolka
07-18-2011, 12:40 AM
I like your zip tie mockup method... can't wait too see some of that pipe being welded up soon, gonna be a ton of fun

THE-SYNDICATE
07-18-2011, 11:50 AM
Here's a little messing around with the rear section of the car. I had to do a few things before heading into work today... This is precisely why I wanted to mock the car up on the floor. I'm trying to compare the elevations of the tubes vs. landmark items, "like the rear wheels," and making sure it looks the same. Once I feel 100% comfy on this I will measure and note all the important stuff and then transfer up to the JIG for welding. Take a look:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ti346GOxD6U/TiRf2X84LyI/AAAAAAAAEV0/OSLMcZyGQoo/s640/IMG_5735.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nY0zhGv2jrI/TiRf33vLlQI/AAAAAAAAEV4/J_5r5cBLu4Q/s640/IMG_5736.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vO20Ok7QdHY/TiRf5Nv0XiI/AAAAAAAAEV8/KubpBIxLxZk/s640/IMG_5743.JPG

I will be picking up some more card stock this week to help with mocking up things like the seat, body, etc....

Cheers,

Robert

THE-SYNDICATE
07-18-2011, 11:56 AM
Compare....

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Ll9zgzMjgbY/TiRlSHtrnQI/AAAAAAAAEWM/keZ0nP7KjBI/s640/IMG_1549.jpg

It really depends on how you hold the camera as well.... So this will take a bit of playing around before it's dialed in....

Cheers,

Robert

jfrolka
07-18-2011, 12:23 PM
If you can find a good side shot of the car and know the wheelbase you can do a quick layout of grid of say 1/2" squares then on a roll of plotter paper about 36"x15' and lay down a grid at 12" squares and have a good guide to what the chassis should be. Just measure tube angles within your half inch square and transfer those angles onto the 12"squares square and do each square till you have the idea. A good side shot will be the hardest to find. If you have a side picture I could do it for you, I used this technique in automotive design class.. works well... I can mail you the roll of paper, no charge!

THE-SYNDICATE
07-18-2011, 12:59 PM
If you can find a good side shot of the car and know the wheelbase you can do a quick layout of grid of say 1/2" squares then on a roll of plotter paper about 36"x15' and lay down a grid at 12" squares and have a good guide to what the chassis should be. Just measure tube angles within your half inch square and transfer those angles onto the 12"squares square and do each square till you have the idea. A good side shot will be the hardest to find. If you have a side picture I could do it for you, I used this technique in automotive design class.. works well... I can mail you the roll of paper, no charge!

Very true! I only have a few pics that would work in this case.. It's really hard with the angle of the camera. I have included the best pic I have for this example in this post. The biggest thing I have taken away from this is the angles of the various frame rails. I just draw right over the top of the pic and then measure things with the protractor. There's also some givens like tire Diameter, Basic ground clearance rules, How far the motor is out.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-czFhpKVGfrg/TiRz_gvnidI/AAAAAAAAEWc/ggA4sV-bUuc/s640/V062-23.jpg

The motor was 30" out in the car after the rear end was moved back in 1967. Wheelbase was adjusted to 145". So this puts the original combo at 28" out and 143" WB. I kinda believe the 2" delta in rear end placement but I also think it might be closer to 3". This all boils down to the amount of distance consumed when adding the new upright for the rear end. "Like, can you do this and only shift things by 2" or is it more like 3"???" Not sure, but this is why we bust out the card board and make fake body panels. It's really splitting hairs at this point but I gotta give it my best shot.

More news soon,

Robert M.

THE-SYNDICATE
07-18-2011, 01:22 PM
Here's another great shot that I will be comparing to the pile of parts... Trying to verify the amount of DUMP angle on the motor. An article I have says that it's "less then the popular 6 degrees" and right now it's sitting at about 6 1/2 to 7. I'm thinking it's more around 5 to 5 1/2 but I'll keep sneaking up on it. You would be surprised at how much 1 degree moves everything! This is a great head on shot of the car and the key item here is how the valve covers look in relation to everything else.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-byvh-Wv8-9Y/TiR5aBRzCUI/AAAAAAAAEWw/N2PW2feSHVk/s640/IMG_1777.JPG

Cheers,

Robert M.

THE-SYNDICATE
07-18-2011, 01:27 PM
And yet another great inside shot to look at frame rails vs. all the other stuff... This is very early in the cars life when it still have the Olds Rear-End in it. This was quickly changed out after repeated breakage... The 8 3/4" went in right away.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qcJAk75wBTA/TiR2s14g7kI/AAAAAAAAEWo/YoVJgP5yu2o/s640/Beebe%252520Bros.%252520%252526%252520Sixt_0010.jp g

Tom S. in Tn.
07-18-2011, 01:58 PM
And yet another great inside shot to look at frame rails vs. all the other stuff... This is very early in the cars life when it still have the Olds Rear-End in it. This was quickly changed out after repeated breakage... The 8 3/4" went in right away.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qcJAk75wBTA/TiR2s14g7kI/AAAAAAAAEWo/YoVJgP5yu2o/s640/Beebe%252520Bros.%252520%252526%252520Sixt_0010.jp g

There's that brake lever right in the center, but where is the jewel armor?
Tom S.

THE-SYNDICATE
07-18-2011, 05:42 PM
Here's a few more comparison shots... The idea will be trying to stand in the exact same reference as the picture and then compare notes... Sure wish these didn't have the ChainLink fence going on.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-baXa_0LJ0hg/TiS2ejOfSgI/AAAAAAAAEW4/AilHCGcK1dc/s640/IMG_1560.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-um5EBllLwjk/TiS2f0zRT2I/AAAAAAAAEW8/PUi_F3JTUfo/s640/IMG_1557.JPG

jfrolka
07-18-2011, 05:58 PM
Looks like the top frame rail is level with the tip of the rim

THE-SYNDICATE
07-18-2011, 06:14 PM
Looks like the top frame rail is level with the tip of the rim

Kinda... Scroll back thru the thread and look at the pictures posted by Rooman while the car was in AUS. The frame rail intersects pretty much right thru the brake caliper. Which would be in the SLOT area of the Halibrand. The frame rails are really low in this car and remind me a bunch of the Fuller Style. Roger Lee's M&R car had very similar features in the back half of the chassis. The lower rail skirts right along the bottom of the rim and is angled up at about 5 degrees from the motor plate back.

I remember laying this out one day and measuring/scaling one of the photos. I thought to myself, There's no way this thing is this low to the ground!! But now that's it's starting to shape up it's damn near spot on from my early measurements.

~Robert

Kiwi Kev
07-18-2011, 09:45 PM
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/kiwikevinp/scans/scan0009-16.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/kiwikevinp/scans/scan0010-15.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/kiwikevinp/scans/scan0011-14.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/kiwikevinp/scans/scan0012-15.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/kiwikevinp/scans/scan0013-13.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/kiwikevinp/scans/scan0014-14.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/kiwikevinp/scans/scan0015-13.jpg

THE-SYNDICATE
07-18-2011, 11:34 PM
Hey Kev!!!

Yep, Isn't that the most Bitchin article? I found that just by accident one night via Rod McCarrel. He saw it on EBay and thought I should have a look??? JackPot! Lot's of data there for sure and I have been referring to it Big Time.

Here's a few Snappies from tonight after mocking up the body and seat.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3O-GmShZxJw/TiUI1vxrsEI/AAAAAAAAEXM/crqK9OcA_xs/s640/IMG_5757.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YS4CEnNBd1Q/TiUI21um7QI/AAAAAAAAEXU/wCwislR6LEM/s640/IMG_5771.JPG

The Business View.....

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bfdi-mz0wT0/TiUI2YSZGRI/AAAAAAAAEXQ/pIIiJKKH5vk/s640/IMG_5768.jpg

And some Bitchin Vintage Love....

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bYI2CEAeuxk/TiUI3caErgI/AAAAAAAAEXY/1funkzgl3EE/s400/IMG_5772.JPG

Happy Trails!

Robert M.

THE-SYNDICATE
07-19-2011, 01:00 PM
Bill "MagiCar" Pitts sent me a few screen shots this morning from some old film he shot back in the day.... Take a look!! The one shot confirms the frame rail spacing for sure.. They were close up at the torsion bar!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-YBMFkvevdck/TiXEsciB9cI/AAAAAAAAEXk/WVC4JAO3Y5Q/s640/Screen%252520shot%2525202011-07-19%252520at%2525209.37.32%252520AM.png

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PbJTn7VBQp4/TiXEqLIe8rI/AAAAAAAAEXg/_7HhvJY7AwY/s640/Screen%252520shot%2525202011-07-19%252520at%2525209.38.21%252520AM.png

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-e4awfLar4Aw/TiXEvGFoLyI/AAAAAAAAEXo/l2Foe9GgaDI/s640/Screen%252520shot%2525202011-07-19%252520at%2525209.39.27%252520AM.png

Too Cool.....

Greg Shelton
07-19-2011, 02:13 PM
GREAT THREAD!

Tim Beebe is a Good Friend of mine...and I have known him since I used to go by his Transmission Shop on my way home from school in the 70's!

He was always kind to any Snot-Nosed Kid who had a Love for anything mechanical!

Later in life I was able to help him build a couple of whatever it was he was interested in at the moment...Stock-Cars...Spint-Cars...Hell, even a Model T with a Hot-Rodded Stock Motor so Tim could beat the other people in the local Model T Club (Don't Ask...Like Tim says, "If it ain't specifically prohibited in the Rule Book...it's Legal!")

I have to say that I was probably a Bad Influence on him too! I made a mistake of telling him that I had found a 1970 Nova body...the next thing...he's tearing apart his 1938 Chevy Sedan to build a Hot-Rod Nova!

A year or two later, I drag home a 1948 Anglia! He told me he saw it, and purposely didn't come over to my house for two weeks! But when he did, he HAD to have it! Now it's Fighting Irish Green with a Blown V-6 and A.O.D.!

He moved to Montana a couple of years ago, but Snowbirds it back every year before the Holidays, and stays for Racing Season! There's never a shortage of things for him to do...and he's always helping at least 3 guys with their cars at any given time!

He is a Great Man, and my Life is better for knowing him!

Good Luck on your Build...it's certainly a car worth your effort!

Regards!

PS: Here's a Couple of Photos of Tim with Dave West at the CHHR!

THE-SYNDICATE
07-19-2011, 04:43 PM
Hey Greg,

That's awesome! I have met Tim before but it was a ways back, and at that time it was just general BS'ing in the pits. We have talked quite a bit however since this project started for me and it's been great! I also stay keep in touch with Richard, and Jerry Beebe keeping them up to speed on what's happening etc... Great family!!! Hard Core racers!

Cheers,

Robert M.

KING CHASSIS
07-20-2011, 06:09 AM
That magazine article is a damn gold mine for you!! motor out 30 1/4",exact wheel base the detailed photos,, everything.

Thanks for posting Kev so we all could see Roberts cheat sheet. ha,ha. Very cool.

THE-SYNDICATE
07-20-2011, 12:28 PM
Awesome build/thread! Cant wait to see the final piece. My dad and "The Zookeeper" were tight so I have always been interested in anything he drove. Keep posting......

I'm sorry I passed over this before... Wow too cool! Here's a shot of your Dad driving this very car! Not sure how many times he did but there's at least one time captured on film!

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mc89xh0dXao/TicPR0X7qCI/AAAAAAAAEX4/FKxd0IrcPoU/s640/Beebe%252520Bros.%252520%252526%252520Sixt_0021.jp g

So Bitchin!!!

~Robert M.

THE-SYNDICATE
07-21-2011, 01:39 AM
Water necks are done....

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/jal_mu/a6cd886b-c998-a582.jpg

THE-SYNDICATE
07-21-2011, 01:40 AM
Dialing in the "Look"

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/jal_mu/a6cd886b-c9e2-7c0d.jpg

jipp
07-21-2011, 03:57 PM
ok, i grew up where 4x4s ruled ) mountains of oregon ) anyhow, never really got into drag racing sure looks fun.. anyhow, iv seen a lot of these type of dragsters i thinking they go by digger, is that the proper nick name for them? if so why do they call them diggers, and one last thing.. with you sitting over the rear axle.. id be so afraid of something go wrong there. cant say iv seen one of these old one with any protection.. is there anything you do? or just hope luck is on your side.. thanks, and that magazine you dug up was a gold mind.. rock on dude.. the coup can wait, use it for the tow car? heh or push car whatever they call it.

chris.

rooman
07-27-2011, 08:18 PM
Robert,
while I was at the NHRR at Bowling Green I purchased a couple of publications from Goyda. I threw them in my race gear bag and earlier this week I finally remembered them and dug them out. One was Mike Doherty's first Drag Racing Photo Greats book from 1968. I was flipping through it and guess what I found?

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t18/aussierooman/BeebeBrosSixt001.jpg

I did not know if you had this shot in your collection so here it is.

Roo

THE-SYNDICATE
07-27-2011, 08:25 PM
Bitchin Roo!!!

Didn't have that one! I'm heading out to the shop for one final tweak of the mock up this evening. I drew some lines on the paper today and confirmed some angles etc... Need to prove it out now.

Cheers,

Robert M.

ChassisResearchKid
07-28-2011, 05:32 PM
This is such a bitchin build, just because i don't comment doesn't mean i'm not watching. Keep the updates comming. Todd.

fiveohnick2932
07-28-2011, 05:57 PM
Looks great! How are all those 8-3/4s you got??

MainProp
07-31-2011, 01:23 AM
What an outstanding process!
I don't think it gets more hardcore than this.
Threads like this are what makes the HAMB a rich environment...
Thanks for sharing this with us Robert!

THE-SYNDICATE
07-31-2011, 05:24 PM
What an outstanding process!
I don't think it gets more hardcore than this.
Threads like this are what makes the HAMB a rich environment...
Thanks for sharing this with us Robert!

Thanks Daddy-O! You need to git on over here and drink all my Beer so weez can do some BullShit'n....

More news soon,

Berta

Curly Hand
07-31-2011, 05:41 PM
The NHRA needs to embrace it's own history. Listen to what the true fans of the sport want, and let these types of cars race again. I would rather watch this car go down the track at 200 MPH, any day over Schumacher's 334 MPH (1/4 mile... those days are over 1000 ft. now). Tom Compton is so busy trying to turn Drag Racing into some money making NASCAR "esque" circus that he has forgotten how cool it used to be. The investment put into making these Cackle Fest cars is huge! The fan response is over whelming! That right there tells me people want to see these cars run!

Gasser1961
07-31-2011, 07:14 PM
There's a place in drag racing for 330 mph cookie cutter spacecraft. But, there should also be a place to race heads up with a back yard build dragster. What needs to happen is another sanctioning body come along. The NHRA is big business they force the sportsman racers to fund the fuel guys. They get a ton of sportsman cars (400 plus) and maybe 40 fuel cars at an event. The IHRA is a show. The last AHRA was a disaster. The ADRL is big bucks pro mod stuff. How about a place where 2 or 3 guys can build a car and run heads up with other guys. I know this all gets out of hand and someone starts to speed big bucks and then it gets out of hand. There is still a place for cars like this.

Slim Pickens
07-31-2011, 07:37 PM
So damn cool. Thanks Robert. Slim

Tudor
07-31-2011, 07:59 PM
Yes, I am in awe when I see all the cackle cars out there today. This is really bad ass. Love it and would love to see a way to see them actually turn it up.

jipp
08-01-2011, 02:36 PM
so calling this a cackle car would be more appropriate than digger? still not sure how they got there name digger, i could guess you know maybe .. because that car will dig your grave? i see they have blankets that goes over the rear ends.. im guessing they are used in these too..

still be afraid of the rear going with my jewels sitting near by.
chris.

slingshot
08-02-2011, 10:00 AM
so calling this a cackle car would be more appropriate than digger? still not sure how they got there name digger, i could guess you know maybe .. because that car will dig your grave? i see they have blankets that goes over the rear ends.. im guessing they are used in these too..

still be afraid of the rear going with my jewels sitting near by.
chris.
I understand the term 'digger' came from "Digging Out" in a short run. "Has your car got much DIG" and similar. As for the steel strap over the ring gear, it's to keep it from sawing out and teaching you to speak Soprano!
I'll have to post a picture or two of the 8-3/4" rear in my car. Soon as I sort how.

slingshot
08-02-2011, 10:05 AM
Here goes. I have three pics showing 1) the commodious seating area, 2) Smoke with the Blower, 3) Here I am holding the plaque I won that day for "Most Original" drag car.

THE-SYNDICATE
08-07-2011, 09:49 PM
Hey Guys... Been Busy! Sorry if I haven't replied to some of the recent posts with questions and comments. I will try to get to them soon! Well the mock-up stage is officialy done and I'm ready to Git'r Done. Here's one last view from the Office!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-C3mspYkzduA/Tj9OQzG8GSI/AAAAAAAAEZ4/aD7Fctnl4Ec/s640/IMG_6017.JPG

JeffreyJames
08-07-2011, 09:55 PM
So that's what it looks like from the thrown!!!! Can't wait to see more progress!!!

THE-SYNDICATE
08-08-2011, 09:45 AM
OK, So we clean up all our SHIT and drag the chassis table back out into the proper location! I still needed to finish up details with the JIG. The front axle JIG needs mounting holes in the table. I want this to be used again at some point thinking I would possibly build another one of these??? Who knows...

So I maxed it out for 150” WB And then mounted the front axle Fixture:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-F4mtN5drU7w/Tj9OHUxWZMI/AAAAAAAAEZI/IcPkSQvh2lk/s640/IMG_6068.JPG

The Rear-End Fixture was only partially complete so I finished welding all the pieces together on this unit. It holds the Rear at the center of my M&H slick should they be full Diameter of 31” I know they will sag a bit but that’s OK as I have figured this into all my clearance as I move along with the frame rails.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Jidp8CO0jb4/Tj9OSKdjQrI/AAAAAAAAEaA/lBGmg6C4Qro/s640/IMG_6052.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-u734FQgNGAg/Tj9OS2oWzCI/AAAAAAAAEaE/GckOjBgzvSw/s640/IMG_6055.JPG

Then it gets mounted in place.... Lots of X-Measuring and Double checking for alignment etc.... Drill holes and bolt it up!

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-M55KrgVe6cQ/Tj9OG65LU6I/AAAAAAAAEZE/OT0ZL62nsKY/s640/IMG_6063.JPG

Then we drill new holes for the proper WB on the original car, bolt up the Front Axle fixture and get down to business!!!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1Yv9kIlvRg0/Tj9OJ95AaEI/AAAAAAAAEZY/hj1LsAs6KKo/s640/IMG_6076.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-x2UOVlDSExo/Tj9OKS3AiQI/AAAAAAAAEZc/bWH2oMeZC0Q/s640/IMG_6077.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zCFLjGesXsg/Tj9OLPiaxpI/AAAAAAAAEZg/K3q-6gn4Vsg/s640/IMG_6078.jpg

I need to make some brackets to support the Torsion tube in the right spot so I used the Orig Arm I have to help locate the tube in the proper location. Now that its in the right spot I will fab little support arms to lock it in position.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-50iDEaJNgjs/Tj9OLnfMktI/AAAAAAAAEZk/PlfxV7SIEcI/s640/IMG_6079.JPG

Next we just start plopping tubes down and the thing starts to take shape! I need to hoist the block back up in the chassis either today or tomorrow before I really start hacking and welding....

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dE7IlhcybHM/Tj9OMc1YFqI/AAAAAAAAEZo/M0CZrkV5AGs/s640/IMG_6080.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-EAJS3aPKPcI/Tj9OM0F1FQI/AAAAAAAAEZs/B_4_l08y_nw/s640/IMG_6083.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-NSuOqhwevKs/Tj9ONnRkkeI/AAAAAAAAEZw/ey3uRHOMpm0/s800/IMG_6086.JPG

More news soon.....

~Berta

THE-SYNDICATE
08-08-2011, 10:41 AM
And another little update.... I have been mildly reluctant to take the first block in for the full treatment at the machine shop due to the cost involved with sleeving the block. I'm not against that deal but it's another $750 on top of all the other work that needs to be done. So a good friend came across a bunch of goodies from an old TopGas racer out of San Jose and I managed to nab another '57 Block and crank. Happy to report that we've got a winner! All clean and ready to go!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CD8eRqA5b5w/Tj9OIklF-ZI/AAAAAAAAEZQ/hqJcxq8gPFY/s640/IMG_6072.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GgNUwMWrRu0/Tj9OJW_2_2I/AAAAAAAAEZU/nOb6jRTYvls/s640/IMG_6073.JPG

~Berta

Gasser1961
08-08-2011, 11:03 AM
Wow, thats a good score. See it's still out there.

choke
08-08-2011, 11:48 AM
Hey Robert, you called me the other day about an early Olds rear end. I found a couple if your interested. I could'nt get your phone # off of the recording. Call me again when you get a chance. Choke @ 794 9090

HEMI32
08-08-2011, 04:36 PM
Robert (THE-SYNDICATE) -

Great thread! ... Bitchin' Cackle Car! ... Please continue to keep us updated on your progress!

THE-SYNDICATE
08-08-2011, 04:47 PM
Hey Robert, you called me the other day about an early Olds rear end. I found a couple if your interested. I could'nt get your phone # off of the recording. Call me again when you get a chance. Choke @ 794 9090

I'm dialed!!! Called Steve, he called a friend, we called each other, and on Saturday I will own not 1 but 2 complete Olds Rear Ends. Got a great story tossed in about Gotelli and Bruno as well... My Day is complete.

Thanks!

Robert

JeremyJames
08-08-2011, 06:31 PM
dude this thinkg is absolutely bad ass! great job

THE-SYNDICATE
08-08-2011, 08:25 PM
This is such a bitchin build, just because i don't comment doesn't mean i'm not watching. Keep the updates comming. Todd.

So damn cool. Thanks Robert. Slim

Yes, I am in awe when I see all the cackle cars out there today. This is really bad ass. Love it and would love to see a way to see them actually turn it up.

Robert (THE-SYNDICATE) -

Great thread! ... Bitchin' Cackle Car! ... Please continue to keep us updated on your progress!


Sent from my iPhone using TJJ app

dude this thinkg is absolutely bad ass! great job

A Million Thanks!!! I'm enjoying the HELL out of myself.... Glad to have a bunch of folks along for the ride! :)

Best Regards,

Robert M.

jfrolka
08-08-2011, 08:51 PM
Man I'd love to put that jig to work again and build one... looking great, and keep having fun!!!

Tom S. in Tn.
08-09-2011, 08:13 AM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dE7IlhcybHM/Tj9OMc1YFqI/AAAAAAAAEZo/M0CZrkV5AGs/s640/IMG_6080.JPG

So now this is the original front axle that came from Australia somewhere, mated back up together with the original spoiler for the first time since when ?
I forget, are the spindles part of the original car as well ??
Simply unreal to see this car actually come back into existence like Jesus did Lazarus!
Tom S. in Tn.

THE-SYNDICATE
08-09-2011, 08:23 AM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dE7IlhcybHM/Tj9OMc1YFqI/AAAAAAAAEZo/M0CZrkV5AGs/s640/IMG_6080.JPG

So now this is the original front axle that came from Australia somewhere, mated back up together with the original spoiler for the first time since when ?
I forget, are the spindles part of the original car as well ??
Simply unreal to see this car actually come back into existence like Jesus did Lazarus!
Tom S. in Tn.

Hey Tom,

Yeah this is the Orig. Front axle that has been in a Fella's back bedroom for the last 20 or so years. He has been a long time friend of the last owner of this famed car and had saved this item as a little momento after the car was dismantled. Once I picked it up and drove to Frank Fedak's shop in Garden Grove he started digging around in the Mezzanine and found that he still had the original deflector plate! Tim Beebe and John Mulligan couldn't use this plate after Tom Hanna built the full body and nose piece for the car prior to the '68 Season. Frank was just building his new car, the Beebe and Fedak AA/FD so he went ahead and bolted it onto his deal. Thankfully he kept it! Now it's right back where it belongs, bolted to this front axle...

I agree in that it's all too cool... I'm still a little shocked myself each time I walk out into the shop and look at it!

The spindles are not Orig, but they are trimmed to look exactly like they were. We are still actively looking for parts in AUS but only time will tell if we can uproot more items.

Cheers,

Robert M.

THE-SYNDICATE
08-09-2011, 08:37 AM
Here's a little project that I have been messing around with the past few evenings... I had posted earlier that I received all the original Patters for RCS front torsion parts from Ronnie Hampshire. Now, it's totally fine to just mark up some plate and cut this stuff out but I wanted to go a bit more modern... Tom Hanna needs some of these and there might be a few more folks that will need them in the future so I drew them up in the CAD system and they are now ready to head out to the Water Jet shop today to be sliced up! I printed them full size real quickly and made some Paper Dollies... They are spot on! Now we can make a shit load of them with ease!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5vJ_fg0lN68/TkE2X4cHNdI/AAAAAAAAEak/piAGDey-aqE/s640/287310_2310373523985_1388779142_2763823_3440477_o. jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tw6SOtIXwIc/TkE2YiGYeyI/AAAAAAAAEao/D7ZPehTGtOc/s640/288793_2313228035346_1388779142_2768164_2555083_o. jpg

Tom S. in Tn.
08-09-2011, 08:37 AM
............ and cheers and a glass of Chablis to you Robert !

simply unreal. Tom S.

THE-SYNDICATE
08-09-2011, 11:04 AM
............ and cheers and a glass of Chablis to you Robert !

simply unreal. Tom S.

Yeah a Glass of Chablis would be nice right about now.... Hmmm..... :)

KING CHASSIS
08-09-2011, 10:26 PM
Your kickin ass Robert. Looks great.

THE-SYNDICATE
08-09-2011, 10:32 PM
Your kickin ass Robert. Looks great.

Bitchin Dude..... :)

lippy
08-09-2011, 10:43 PM
Coming along nicely! Can't wait to see it together. Thanks for including us! Lippy

jipp
08-09-2011, 10:59 PM
good to see this digger coming along. thanks slingshot for explaining, and congrats on the award.. so cool, i dig these back yard diggers.. the first one i can remember would have to be "pure hell" on fire on the cover of a old magazine.. im so glad there are guys building these 60s beast again.. i cant wait to for them to get even more popular so i can go watch a few.. keep up the good work on the rebirth of this legend of the strip..
chris.

THE-SYNDICATE
08-13-2011, 10:44 PM
Well Folks,

It was a great week that started off with Hanna telling me that the car really needs the Olds Rear-End to be proper... Ughhh.... Well He's right if we are going for the first roll out, i.e. October~December 1965. So the search begins! Why the hell not? I email my dedicated group of HotRod friends in the SouthBay and the trail begins.

Long story short, I was told to call a guy, who might know a guy. He did know a guy who also knew a guy, and today we met up. During the entire phone call trail I got one helluva story about Terrible Ted and Bruno during one of their "Lunch's" and laughed my ass off.... I drove all over Sonoma County and ended up with what's in the back of my truck! They're all cleaned up and I'm ready to slice up the housing tomorrow and place it in the JIG where the 8 3/4" Chry currently resides. Here's some photos including a Sweet shot that was given to me via Richard Beebe of the original car and that Damn Olds Rear End!

Carry On!!!

~Robert

Kiwi Kev
08-13-2011, 11:14 PM
What year Olds rear end are you running? I have a 10 spline spool for a 57-62. I imagine yours is the earlier one. Did they run spool, open or posi?.....Kevin

THE-SYNDICATE
08-14-2011, 10:19 AM
What year Olds rear end are you running? I have a 10 spline spool for a 57-62. I imagine yours is the earlier one. Did they run spool, open or posi?.....Kevin

Hey Kevin,

They ran an open rear-end in this deal and I'm thinking I'll do the same. Being a 10-Spline unit you would think that spool is for the early unit? This rear is a 1950 that will be going into the chassis. The other rear I got yesterday is a '55 I think? Not too sure yet as I haven't checked P/N's.

Can you send me some pics of that spool?

robertwmorris@mac.com

Thanks Man!

Robert

Tom S. in Tn.
08-14-2011, 10:17 PM
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/jal_attachments/1/4/2/5/1400427.thumb?d=1313293425

Alright, I see that brake lever centered in the cockpit, but I can not discern any armor over the back of the differential housing.
If this was an open 3'rd member car, like most were, where is the protective armor plating?
Inquisitive mind here; Tom S. in Tn.

THE-SYNDICATE
08-16-2011, 06:35 PM
Fresh from the Water-Jet Shop!!! Plenty of parts! I love getting shit done by the water jet Dude... So Slick, So Simple....

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5TaHPRTECY0/Tkr-gySeqiI/AAAAAAAAEbE/s9_1w0xd13k/s640/291236_2333042010683_1388779142_2798313_3238738_o. jpg


~Robert M.

THE-SYNDICATE
08-16-2011, 06:36 PM
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/jal_attachments/1/4/2/5/1400427.thumb?d=1313293425

Alright, I see that brake lever centered in the cockpit, but I can not discern any armor over the back of the differential housing.
If this was an open 3'rd member car, like most were, where is the protective armor plating?
Inquisitive mind here; Tom S. in Tn.

No Guard.... Fingers crossed! ;)

dreracecar
08-17-2011, 10:45 AM
I have seen a lot of gears come apart (chunk) but never to a point of getting to a driver, It has always been the case where the diff had locked up and "SPUN" out of the mounts to which no amount of plate will help at that point. Most of the guards needed were those that ran Q/C's.
A little chassie build 101 here, When designing front torsion arms (I know you coppied the originals)increase the front nose radious and offset the slide hole towards the bottom, this gives you more support area on the top where all the weight is.By the pix you have enough room and I absolutly guarente no one will notice it.
One last thing about water jet and tig welding-- make sure that you always sand the surface areas before welding as there is abrasive inbeded into the material which conaminates the weld. I recently had to machine some W/J alu and wore out a brand new endmill--new this going in and the last few peices were tough.

THE-SYNDICATE
08-17-2011, 11:37 AM
I have seen a lot of gears come apart (chunk) but never to a point of getting to a driver, It has always been the case where the diff had locked up and "SPUN" out of the mounts to which no amount of plate will help at that point. Most of the guards needed were those that ran Q/C's.
A little chassie build 101 here, When designing front torsion arms (I know you coppied the originals)increase the front nose radious and offset the slide hole towards the bottom, this gives you more support area on the top where all the weight is.By the pix you have enough room and I absolutly guarente no one will notice it.
One last thing about water jet and tig welding-- make sure that you always sand the surface areas before welding as there is abrasive inbeded into the material which conaminates the weld. I recently had to machine some W/J alu and wore out a brand new endmill--new this going in and the last few peices were tough.

All very good Data! Thanks Bruce! Yeah I should have biased those slotted holes down a touch now that I think about it... I left the center bore on the end cap slightly undersized so it will get a little clean up in the lathe before slipping onto the tube. That should machine away the grit prior to welding! The other surfaces will be polished.

Thanks Again!

Robert M.

Hot Rod Ron
08-17-2011, 12:07 PM
Such a cool build keep the updates coming.

rooman
08-17-2011, 01:29 PM
Like this Bruce? Don Long style arm


http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t18/aussierooman/IMG_9905.jpg

Roo