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KIRK!
11-25-2003, 03:06 PM
Well, I just had one of the coolest weekends of my life. Two full days and more at Gene Winfield's shop in Mojave, CA. This will be a huge post so be patient for the pics.

Anyway, after a six hour drive and getting lost in the middle of the desert while very nearly running out of gas, my friend Gil and I made it to Mojave. I'm not sure why they even gave this "town" a name. It's not really anything more than a gas stop on the highway with few hotels. Once in "town" we grabbed some chow and tried to hit the hay. But I was like some little kid before christmas and couldn't fall asleep with all those visions of metal fabrication dancing in my head. I eventually did crash out around 2am. Saturday morning began around 6am. An hour and a half before the 7:30 wakeup call. We excitedly killed time wondering what was in store and how we'd apply this soon-to-be-acquired knowledge to our current and future projects, grabbed breakfast and headed into the nothingness of the desert. Well, it was only six miles from "town" but it felt like the moon. We arrived about 30 minutes early for the 9am class, cameras in hand and huge smiles plastered on our mugs. I would have felt like a dork but everyone else looked as dumb as we did, smiling at piles of Merc, shoebox and various other parts strewn around the desert lair that is Winfield's. The "classroom" was just in one of his garage shop spaces where he had obviously been working the day before since it looked like most of our shops, a mess. Definitely nothing fancy. Perfect. The first day was like a metal fabrication information waterfall. I was the only guy taking notes and I couldn't do it fast enough. Basic shop setup, tool and work station creation, hammer welding, leading and english wheel were the topics of the first day. Very little hands-on but very thorough and obviously insightful information. Lunch was Subway as paid for with Gene's wad of cash and picked up by a couple of his cronies. He spent lunch just hanging out with everyone and showing us around the whole compound. We saw amazing customs in progress and a couple of old show cars in a container out back. Then, at the end of the day, the best part. Open forum for questions. Class was supposed to end at six but the whole class hung out asking questions until nearly nine. He answered questions about everything from exhaust megaphone creation to top chopping details on nearly everyones specific project to sectioning to pancaking my '47 hood. I think he was as happy to be there as we all were. Of course Gil and I talked about nothing but customizing and Gene from the second we left, all through dinner and until we both crashed back at the Motel 6.

Sunday morning found us awake way before our wakeup call once again. We hit the same greasy spoon for breakfast and headed to Gene's early. Day two was another flood of knowledge. Hammer dies, more english wheel, patch paneling, plastic body filler techniques and louvering. Every guy there got to make a louvered panel and then Gene signed each one as a souvenir. Class ened at 6pm with the grand finale being a demostration on embossing. He created flames in an aluminum panel for his race car "The Thing". After another question and answer session the pupils began to slowly file out over about a two and a half hour period. I think everyone else was like me and wanted to move in. Before we left, Gil and I got to dig through Gene's private stash of customizing parts in one of the houses on the property. This house has no power and is filled waist deep with Desoto grilles, hubcaps, skirts and piles of every "most desireable" shiny part anyone could want. We were looking for a '47 Olds grille for my '47 Ford. In the near pitch black we only found one and it was a little too hammered. He said he knew he had another better one and would dig it up later. He asked about Billetproof then wrote it on his calendar for next year. He said he'd heard great things and wanted to come out this year but couldn't make it. Then, as if all that wasn't cool enough, he asked me to design his new catalog and all his product packaging. Holy crap!!! Plus I ordered a floorboard elimination kit for my '47. He was out of them so he told me he'd whip one up and bring it to me the second week of December when he's in town to paint John DiAugustiono's latest. WOW!!!

So, Gil and I grabbed a quick bite and got on the road just after nine. With two Red Bulls in me and a head swimming with a billion customizing memories and ideas I hauled ass for home. I debated turning around and ditching everything to live in Mojave and offer to be the janitor just to be able to hang out there eveyday.

Here are just a fraction of the shots I took this weekend. Enjoy. I know I did.

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/genesoutsidesign.jpg

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/genesoutside9.jpg

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/genesoutside.jpg

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/genesoutside3.jpg

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/genesoutside1.jpg

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/genesoutside2.jpg

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/genesoutside4.jpg

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/genesoutside5.jpg

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/genesoutside7.jpg

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/genesoutside4_1.jpg

Gene hammer forming a Merc window opening.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/genehammerjig.jpg

Window channel bending jig/tool
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/genestrimjig.jpg

One of their shop made work stations with interchangeable pipe anvils. I took a ton of notes and pics. I'm building this first.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/genesstation.jpg

Winfield 101 classroom.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/genesclassroom.jpg

Jig for one of Gene'e floating grilles.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/genesgrilljig.jpg

Gene on the sandbag. Check out the homemade hammer!! Can you see what he used? Cool!
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/geneshammer.jpg

Gene leading.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/geneslead.jpg

His new flattie that's going in The Thing
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/genesflattie.jpg

The Thing. One of my alltime favorite cars and it was just sitting there outside. Awesome!
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/genesoutsidething.jpg

Gene, happy give us a few revs.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/genesoutsidething1.jpg

What's inside you ask?
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/genesoutsidething2.jpg

lownslow
11-25-2003, 03:15 PM
kirk,
i really wanted to go.... but couldnt get away..... gene really is one of the nicest guys you will ever know......looks like a great time was had by all.........

Django
11-25-2003, 03:19 PM
You took a freakin class!!! OMG! That RULES! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

hotrodladycrusr
11-25-2003, 03:19 PM
GREAT story, GREAT photos. Thanks so much for sharing. He IS one of the BEST!

KIRK!
11-25-2003, 03:22 PM
He's always very nice at his booth at shows but he was so hospitable and down to earth. He's a freaking living legend who's been doing this for 50 years and is still super sharp and ultra humble.

Oh yeah, he told us he's shooting an episode of Monster garage in january with Norm Grabowski, Dean Jeffries and one other builder who's slipping my mind.

Fat Hack
11-25-2003, 03:26 PM
That RULES!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I didn't know Winfield built the SUX-6000 cars from Robocop!!!

Great post, Kirk!!!!

Curt Six
11-25-2003, 03:57 PM
I'd love to see the rest of the pics. Any chance you could post them or I could mail you a few bucks to burn a CD?
Curt

KIRK!
11-25-2003, 04:03 PM
Hey Curt. What do you want to more pics of? I'll post or send.

50mercfan
11-25-2003, 04:05 PM
billit proof, man i don't have the words to express how much i appriciate your story and pictures. i've had the pleasure to meat mr.winfield at a few shows, and he's always a super nice guy. he's my favorite customizer and thought of getting to do what you did is almost too much. can you please put on the rest of your pics? is he going to have this again? and why did he move so far out?

hotrodladycrusr
11-25-2003, 04:09 PM
It won't matter what they build, that is going to be the coolest Monster Garage EVER! I'd give my right boob to be on that set for the week! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

KIRK!
11-25-2003, 04:10 PM
I am so grateful to have been able to go. I don't know if he's doing it again or not but I bet he does. Like I said I think he was having as much fun as we were. I'll post if I hear about the class again. There were even a couple guys from Ohio, two guys from Washington and two more from Las Vegas. I'll post some more pics. He moved there a little over 2 years ago. I guess he just wanted to be left alone to do his magic and have plenty of space to do it.

50mercfan
11-25-2003, 04:12 PM
if you don't mind my asking what did the class cost?

KIRK!
11-25-2003, 04:17 PM
Me and the man.

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/geneme.jpg

Smokin Joe
11-25-2003, 04:23 PM
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and why did he move so far out?


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To keep you guys from drooling all over his shit! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Gene and Norm on Monster Garage? I'd sure as hell watch that one. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

4t64rd
11-25-2003, 04:25 PM
How thick are the push/nerf bars on the back of "the Thing"?

50mercfan
11-25-2003, 04:27 PM
hey joe, now that i've thought about it, that was probably a good idea on his part. the restraighning order is almost expired.........oh hell, did i say that out loud?. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Curt Six
11-25-2003, 04:29 PM
Any pics from the class would be killer...tools, forms, shop...I think I'd pretty much be stoked to see whatever pics you've got. Unless you've just got a few rolls of film from the greasy spoon you guys became regulars at. Don't need to see those. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

KIRK!
11-25-2003, 04:44 PM
More stuff in no particular order.

Shop cat. He works there. Why can't I?
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/Roll112104.jpg

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/Roll112125.jpg

Hemming a fender edge.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/Roll112130.jpg

'41 Ford sedan turned convert. peeking out.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/Roll112137.jpg


Cool Cleco keeper idea.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/Roll11214.jpg

Sweet Merc. Unfortunately headed for Japan.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/Roll112140.jpg

More of The Thing. Shit that's cool!
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/Roll11218.jpg

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/Roll11229.jpg

This pretty much says it all for his place.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/Roll11248.jpg

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/Roll1125.jpg

Gas welding up some trim holes. He had some awesome techniques and insight for this. This stuff was absolutely perfect and invisble when done.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/Roll11266.jpg

The Strip Star. He completely fabbed the aluminum body, steering wheel, trim and the windshield. No full body shots because it was in a container.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/Roll11277.jpg

hotrodladycrusr
11-25-2003, 04:57 PM
Any other shots of the little blue, what looks to be a track nose thingy, right under the photo with the cat in it?

KIRK!
11-25-2003, 05:01 PM
More of the shop stuff.

This is Gene's personal work station. Just imagine the cool shit that started life here.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/more.jpg

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/more1.jpg

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/more2.jpg

His shear is outside.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/more4.jpg

His giant pipe anvil.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/more6.jpg

Gene braking an adge on a Harbor Freight bead roller. This was one of his buddies roller but he was showing us that the $70 one from Harbor Freight was just fine.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/more7.jpg

six5monster
11-25-2003, 05:06 PM
One of the High points, and there were many, from Bonneville was when Gene asked if he could use the shifter knob from my car in his Thing. He sent it back to me after Speed week along with a signed picture. He is a very appoachable and nice man.
David

dondanno
11-25-2003, 05:31 PM
Kirk that looks it was a blast. We all need to do something like that to keep this hobby alive. If you want a shot bag pm me...Later Danny

Rix2Six
11-25-2003, 05:38 PM
Kirk that was way cool... id love to go there for a class... maybe one of these days! Thanks for sharing!

SamIyam
11-25-2003, 05:42 PM
Very cool stuff Kirk!

A relative and friend of mine, Jerry Hill, was pals with Gene in the 50's... They'd drag race and race roadsters all over California... Jerry was into racing motorcycles... and Gene into racing cars... long before he got into Customs, as the story goes.
Neat stuff,
Sam.

50mercfan
11-25-2003, 05:44 PM
can you keep us notified on the catalog? when it's available and where we can get it.

cleatus
11-25-2003, 06:07 PM
Man oh man, who would think some funky old buildings out in the dessert could look so much like heaven.

I can't blame you for wanting to move in. Gene is THE man!

Definitely post it when you find out about the next class.

Made my day - thanks Kirk!

KIRK!
11-25-2003, 06:08 PM
Yeah, I'll post when the catalog is done. It will be a while since it is pretty much going to have to be done from scratch. Photos and all.

BTW the class was $175 per day for the two days.

praisethelowered
11-25-2003, 06:18 PM
Nice post. I'm there next time.

buzzard
11-25-2003, 06:34 PM
I think you pretty much summed it up in your title...

Too cool.

CAS
11-25-2003, 06:38 PM
That is..AWESOME!!! Thanks for sharing.

**DONOTDELETE**
11-25-2003, 07:36 PM
I'm with Denise. The "blue thingy" is an old sprint car and I saw another one in the background of one of the first photos. Any info on them ? They seem out of place... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

KIRK!
11-25-2003, 07:40 PM
The old timer with the cane in the pic of me and Gene brought it. He was hoping to sell it. I didn't get any full shots of it but I did take some close ups of some parts. And of course I asked if he had anymore sprint car steering boxes.

LIMEY
11-25-2003, 07:42 PM
Gene is a great guy, he really does make a fuss & gives you all his time, a couple of times he's seen me first but still made a point of getting my attention.....thats way too cool!
At the last CHRR he gave us a seat at his stall & handed us his photo album to look through, if you've not seen it yet try to, its full of amazing pics from his past!

KIRK!
11-25-2003, 07:50 PM
He had that photo album out and it was killer. Here are the only two shots I have of that roundy round car. I thought I had more.

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/Roll11246.jpg

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/Roll11247.jpg

justinm
11-25-2003, 08:01 PM
pretty great stuff- nice reporting

when do the classes begin at you're place.
i'll bring 175 ml of beer....for each day. =)

mytlo56
11-25-2003, 08:02 PM
Wow! Thanks for posting. Really great stuff.

When I see pic.'s like this it reminds me of what kustom and chopper shops "really" look like.

I respect a lot of what Jesse James does...but the Discovery channel shows featuring his shop have given a bad depiction of what a rod/kustom/chopper shop looks like. Gene's place looks a little more like the shops I grew up around. Function first, cool looks last (if at all).

Just out of curiosity, what are his chop jobs going for? Is the price astronomical or has he kept it reasonable?

KIRK!
11-25-2003, 08:06 PM
Hey Justin, you can come by anytime. With or without the beer.

I don't know about his chop prices. I was afraid to ask. I was sure it was more than I could afford.

Action Girl
11-25-2003, 08:21 PM
Definitely cool!

Thanks for showing us the pictures. Guys like him are a dying breed...

Stacey

Unkl Ian
11-25-2003, 10:26 PM
Thanks for the pics.
How did he emboss his flames?

Grumpy
11-25-2003, 11:19 PM
dude, great post! that looked like heaven on earth. thanks for all the awesome pics.

Rolf
11-26-2003, 12:04 AM
Great post, B-proof...Thanks for sharing. I'm going to make myself one of those hammers now!

**DONOTDELETE**
11-26-2003, 06:04 AM
Thank you, Dude ! It must have been quite an experience.

Sailor
11-26-2003, 06:16 AM
Cool stuff indeed. Thanks for posting.

I still wonder about this car: http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/sp/speedgeeks/Roll112137.jpg
Is this Brewsirs old car or what? Inquiring minds wants to know.. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Levis Classic
11-26-2003, 06:25 AM
Hey Kirk sounds like a good story for that Biletproof Magazine you want to do! I may have a line on your 46 Olds grill! I sold one to a guy along with the other body parts last year and he just threw it in his huge parts pile. I will give him a call.

48_HEMI
11-26-2003, 06:50 AM
Gene let me know that you don't need a spotless shop/show room to do good work! I've followed that example (except the good work part) he's always been a hero to me. just the girlfriends he keeps showing up with is an inspiration http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Fatstang
11-26-2003, 08:10 AM
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I debated turning around and ditching everything to live in Mojave and offer to be the janitor just to be able to hang out there eveyday.


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Gene Winfield’s shop in Mojave = Nirvana! Thanks for sharing this with us. Too cool. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Machinos
11-26-2003, 08:48 AM
That is just cool as hell.

And the coolest part is that it's just a big junk-filled unkempt shop in the middle of the desert, but it's a million times better than Boyd Coddington's factory. Man.

hotrodladycrusr
11-27-2003, 02:23 PM
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just the girlfriends he keeps showing up with is an inspiration http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Jim, Are you referring to Joyce by any chance? The little blonde with the 29 RPU? You being from Oregon, I'm thinking you might know her.

dondanno
11-27-2003, 03:01 PM
Denise 2 years ago I introduced Gene and Joyce to each other at CHRR in Bakersfield a year after Bub check out. Now they have been hanging out ever since, she is a great friend of ours and a wonderful person. Gene was a total gentlemen, and every time I see him either up here or down south he is always very cool.....Danny

hotrodladycrusr
11-27-2003, 03:31 PM
That is VERY cool! I met Joyce at B'ville this past year and spent alot of time chatting, hanging out and "cutting cookies" in Big Olds as she calls it. Since then, her and I have kept in touch. She is an AWESOME hot rod lady. I'm glad you introduced her to Gene. Those two sure seem to enjoy each others company.

I have sent her a link to the HAMB with all the "rules". I'm hoping she lurks around a bit and decides to do an intro and start hanging out here. Next time you see her, please tell her I said "hi".

av8
11-27-2003, 04:13 PM
Thanks for sharing the experience, Kirk -- and sharing it so well! Gene is a treasure, one of the nicest persons in the movement. In Japan, folks like Gene are accorded the honor of being considered a national treasure; Gene deserves no less from us.

DrJ
11-27-2003, 05:10 PM
Someone asked why he moved out there instead of staying in Hollyweird/New Babylon...
Just look at the view...
Those pictures show North South East and West...
It's magnificently EMPTY of CITY and still Freeway close to New Babylon!

brewsir
11-27-2003, 05:26 PM
hey Sailor...good eye...that is my old merc. wonder why they took off all the bondo?? Guess thats one car we may never see on the road again (Gene probably wants an arm and a leg to fix my amateur work)

HAAS
11-27-2003, 05:38 PM
I knew that was your car Brewsir, I asked about that when someone posted pics from Genes shop last time. Man I love that car...

Sailor
11-27-2003, 05:46 PM
Thats a bummer, Brewsir, I really liked its style. Watching the build-up on here was among the HAMBs better moments as well. Was it the new owner who wanted Winfield to change something on it?

brewsir
11-28-2003, 12:42 AM
A japanese guy bought my car...guess he wanted gene to fix it up before getting it...I had stripped it to bare metal when I did the car...so it really was a waste of money I would think (having winfield redo it that is) but it's his now.

KIRK!
11-30-2003, 09:29 PM
Hey Brewsir, Gene said they stripped one side because he would not guarantee his paint over someone elses bodywork. He only stripped one side and because the work was so good he didnt strip the other.

AHotRod
11-30-2003, 09:38 PM
Thanks for sharing your expierance!