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metalshapes
04-06-2005, 07:49 PM
Most of the Frame is done.
I have to do some welding to it yet, and I have to put the Rollers on.
And I have to make a cradle for the ( lower ) anvil Wheel.
What do you guys think of what I came up with for a adjuster?
Its a Tailstock off a Lathe...
kustombuilder
04-06-2005, 07:53 PM
VERY nice. i want t o build a big one too but i need to add on to the shop first.
Slag Kustom
04-06-2005, 07:55 PM
looks killer there should be almost no flex with the frame. great idea for the ajuster.
Unkl Ian
04-06-2005, 07:56 PM
Interesting ideas.
You might find that having 2 casters on the front will get in the way,
of your feet,when you are wheeling a panel.
For that reason,I used a sigle fixed caster at the front,
and a pair of double locking swivel casters at the back.
Imwalkin
04-06-2005, 08:12 PM
looks good!!
I_be_moose
04-06-2005, 09:22 PM
I agree with Ian. I also used a single wheel in front only I have fixed wheels in back and a lockable one in front.
http://allshops.org/community/CommunityAlbum/9970172887462.jpg
It is very stable yet by unlocking the front wheel I can move it with ease. I really love your idea of using the tail stock as the adjuster. Fine adjustment plenty of strength and is just plain Kool.
Tim:cool:
choprods
04-06-2005, 09:54 PM
NICE DESIGN-I like its structure......
If you dont mind ,Ill post a pic tomorrow of the one I built...Its together and working- I need to ask y'all how to hold it stationary though!:o
I put my planishing hammer on mine at the rear.....Kenny
Reggie
04-06-2005, 10:08 PM
Nice work Alex!
fab32
04-06-2005, 10:16 PM
I'm still gathering parts for the frame of mine. I am of the opinion that a single wheel under the forming wheels is the way to go. I've used a couple that had the wide based wheel arrangement and the wheels and frame got in the way of where you wanted to stand while wheeling. I'm planning a wide base at the rear with two heavy duty swivel locking casters and a single fixed caster under the wheel and anvil assys. I like the idea of incorporating other metal forming stations in one unit and I'm planning on doing so on mine. My planishing hammer however will be seperate as I've already built a sturdy base for it and it's working fine as an independent unit.
Frank
metalshapes
04-06-2005, 10:26 PM
Thanks guys.
I put the wheels on the front 'cause i thought it would be more stable if they were in line with the rollers.
If it turns out I stub my toes on them, I can change it around with out too much trouble.
I wasn't going to put a quick release on it, but a friend of mine called me and told me that would be a mistake.
So I'll try and figure out how to put one in afterall, and maybe I'll see if I can beef the frame up some more for stiffness.
I cant wait to start using this thing!
cheaterslick
04-06-2005, 11:42 PM
Where are you guys buying you anvils & wheels?
striper
04-07-2005, 12:00 AM
Where are you guys buying you anvils & wheels?DITTO. What about us Aussies?
By the way very nice work guys
metalshapes
04-07-2005, 12:25 AM
Where are you guys buying you anvils & wheels?
I got the anvil wheels from Hoosier. ( the sell E Wheel and Planishing Hammer parts on Ebay )
The top Wheel I got from my buddy Kevin ( Goldenboy on the HAMB ).
It was a Drivewheel in a machine, he cut the serpentine grooves of and he made some adaptors to fit the spindle.
He found the bearing carriers with the self aligning Bearings in them as well.
four-thirteen
04-07-2005, 01:05 AM
When you make the cradle for the lower anvils, make it so you can adjust the axis angle without much difficulty. In fact, make it really really easy to adjust. One reason is that the axis of the two wheels must be parallel in normal opperation, and things to float around quite a bit. Number two is it makes it real easy to get into corners and edges of a panel if you can crank one side up and move the working area to one side of the wheels. Good work so far.
attitudor
04-07-2005, 05:07 AM
Wow, that one won´t sag. My own EW is also almost bombproof but the adjustment of the lower anvil is flexible and it sucks! I like your broadminded idea with the adjuster.
Mika
sawzall
04-07-2005, 05:41 AM
good idea on the lower adjuster..
I did the same... on my power hammer
http://images6.fotki.com/v161/photos/2/206474/1978829/DSC00417-vi.jpg
choprods
04-07-2005, 07:11 AM
I bought My wheel and anvil[I'm saving for more]....from a place on Ebay -I believe their user was Oklahoma Hardware and Machine?
Taildraggin
04-07-2005, 07:33 AM
Whats the best diameter for the top wheel?
30roadster
04-07-2005, 07:43 AM
I've been eyeing this guys stuff because he is a short drive away from me...dont' know anything about him so this isn't an endorsement....
http://stores.ebay.com/High-Tech-Turning_W0QQssPageNameZstrkQ3amefsQ3amesstQQtZkm
Spoon
04-07-2005, 08:03 AM
I got mine from this guy.
It's been a quality product so far. I got the rest of the wheels from him too.
No wheels means it stays put. But my shop is a whole aircraft hangar, so I've got room.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=25278&item=7505906812&rd=1
Deuce Rails
04-07-2005, 08:07 AM
Wow, that looks really well reinforced! Nice work.
--Matt
I just finished building one as well, I'll get pics later, not as strong as yours but it was pretty cheap to build and has worked so far.
I used Hooosier pattern as well, I personally believe their upper wheels are the best on the market. They use h13 tool steel instead of 4130 or 4140 like other companies (h13 is extremely rust resistant). Their bottom rollers are as good as any but most others are about the same.
Great design on the frame!
rjb
Kevin Lee
04-07-2005, 10:21 AM
Nice.
HAD20z
04-07-2005, 10:26 AM
i want to build one now....
oldandkrusty
04-07-2005, 01:56 PM
i want to build one now....
Alex, your E-wheel looks absolutely spot-on. Don't forget to show us some of your work when you get it up and running.
By the way, thanks again for your hospitality when I visited your area. It made my day! O&K
Unkl Ian
04-07-2005, 02:01 PM
Sawzall: we need details on the power hammer.I knew you were planning one,but this is the first I've seen of it.
good idea on the lower adjuster..
I did the same... on my power hammer
http://images6.fotki.com/v161/photos/2/206474/1978829/DSC00417-vi.jpg
Unkl Ian
04-07-2005, 02:09 PM
Made mine from scratch.
Upper wheel is 6" OD x 3" wide.
Lowers are 3" OD x 3" wide.
Bearings are 6202.
Details here:
http://allshops.org/cgi-bin/community/communityalbums.cgi?action=openalbum&albumid=9970156377963&ownerid=9990089428941
Ideally,the upper and lower yokes are bolted in place,
so they can be shimmed if necessary.
Some low end manufacturers weld everything solid.
Where are you guys buying you anvils & wheels?
KCsledz
04-07-2005, 02:19 PM
Made mine from scratch.
Upper wheel is 6" OD x 3" wide.
Lowers are 3" OD x 3" wide.
Bearings are 6202.
Details here:
http://allshops.org/cgi-bin/community/communityalbums.cgi?action=openalbum&albumid=9970156377963&ownerid=9990089428941
Ideally,the upper and lower yokes are bolted in place,
so they can be shimmed if necessary.
Some low end manufacturers weld everything solid.
Love it! I have to get back on the ball and gather my materials for a bench top version.
metalshapes
04-08-2005, 05:09 PM
I put some more braces in, to stiffen the Frame up some more...
And I think I have figured out a way to put a Quick Release on it without to much redesign.
And I can do it later, so I can start using it as soon as I have the main part done...
John_Kelly
04-09-2005, 09:12 AM
Looks great! It is actually nice to have a little flexibilty in the frame. Even though you have reinforced it, it will have flex. I ran mine without a quick release for a couple of years before I got the funds together for one. I rarely use the quick release unless I'm changing anvils. Usually just start the upper wheel rolling and let it suck the metal in. I've attached a before and after shot of a fender I'm building just to show what the e-wheel can do. Lumpy to smooth in about 15 minutes. The fender still needs more work, but it is getting there.
John www.ghiaspecialties.com
metalshapes
04-11-2005, 08:03 PM
I got some more done.
The Frame is all welded up, the Tailstock and the Top Wheel are mounted.
I'll go find a old drill bit with a #4 taper to build the cradle for the Lower Wheel off.
Once that is done I'll shim and adjust it, so I can start using it.
And at a later date I'll put a Quick Release on it.
bradberry00
04-11-2005, 09:36 PM
Jesus Christ! No wonder they have to melt down all of our old cars...thats where the steel went!!!
hahah....looks nice....
metalshapes
04-11-2005, 09:47 PM
Jesus Christ! No wonder they have to melt down all of our old cars...thats where the steel went!!!
hahah....looks nice....
Yeah... there is 20Ft of 4X4 1/4" Wall square Tubing in it,
and almost 30Ft of 2X4 1/8" rectangular...
The mounting plate for the Tailstock is a 10X14 5/8" piece of plate.
And the mounting plate for the TopWheel is 1/2" thick.
The thing is HEAVY!!
metalshapes
11-18-2006, 11:37 PM
The pics I posted on this Thread were gone.
Here they are in the order that I posted them before...
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