Heading out to Wyoming, going to Wyotech.

[blacktopbutcher]

I am heading out to Wyoming to go to Wyotech where I will be studying Hot rod fabrication, and High Performance engines and Chassis Fab. I would like to take my 54 ford customline out with me so I can use that as my project car. Anyone know of a cheap automotive transport company. I am broke after trying to come up with the money to pay for the school. I have resorted to making hot rod T
Shirts to try and make some money to ship out my car.
Anyone interested in one of my Hot Rod Ts let me know. I need the dough. They are all designed by me and made by me. No middle man. I do all the work myself.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

[Luckypabst]

If it's gay I'll be pissed. Do you accept Paypal? I'd be real happy to send a brother to happiness. I'm an XL but prefer a L. Please email me with the particulars.

Chris

[blacktopbutcher]

Yeah I accept paypal. All the shirts I have can be checked out at my thrown together Website at www.butchershopkustoms.com (http://www.butchershopkustoms.com)

All the money I make is going to help me to ship my car to Wyoming and to help pay for school. Trust me I need it.

[Tman]

Do your self a favor, stay home. We dont want wankers like you out here anyway.

[bluegrassboogie]

you may be a wanker, who knows.you start out with a spam and everything.but you know what ,i bought the racing with the devil shirt.1.cause its a reference to gene vincent.
2. because if youre heading off to do what i wanted to do,but never did.
3.because im goofy on cold medicine my wife gave me.
but if you drop out , ill snap you with the shirt like the guys in gym class. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[blacktopbutcher]

Joy, I feel like I am back in high school all over again. I know I am new to this board but lets leave the locker room chat back in 12th grade where it belongs. I look foward to meeting some of the westeners. Hope you have room for a city boy.

[blacktopbutcher]

Like anything, you never know who someone is until you look past what you see in front of you. I always like to think that everyone does what is best for them and not becuase everyone else seems to be doing at the time. But I guesse that is not the case all the time.

Thanks for buying a shirt. You won't be disaponted.
I plan on climbing to the top of my class at Wyotech so I can add a little something to the HotRodding comunity. I don't give up with out a balls out fight. You can count on that.

[Tman]

Dont want you to give up, just give a fuckin intro!? Are you really sure you want to go to WYotech? What are your goals? What is the windspeed of an unladen Swallow?

[36-3window]

since you are going to be a smart guy going to Wyotech to learn all sorts of stuff about hot rods,and other stuff...tell me this...if the angle of the dangle equals the bore of the whore,how long will it take for a baby bullfrog jacking off in a pail of water,for the water to turn to steam?

[BARNETT]

You mis-spelled your link in the classifieds. Just thought I'd let you know because it doesn't work the way it is. The one on this page works fine though. For what it's worth...a "proper" intro would really help you gain support around here. Good luck with school.

[Deyomatic]

$900 is NOT bad for that kind of a haul. Mine was a bit over a grand from NH to AZ. If it CAN drive out there, then drive your daily out and go back for the other one. But $900 will probably be cheaper than the flight home + gas + food + motels + wear and tear and broken stuff.

BTW, the only reason I didn't bitch about you not doing an intro and spamming us with your first and second posts is because you live in Massachusetts. You've been through enough already. (I'm only half joking).
An intro should include: Where in Mass? How old are you? How'd you get into hot rods? Why Wyo-Tech? What are the particulars of your car and what do you plan for it? Otherwise nobody's going to help you with anything because they won't know you.

[blacktopbutcher]

Thanks for the heads up.

First Off.
I am origanally from Gardner/Fitchburge Massachusetts. (Western Mass)
I am currently living in Boston.

I am going to Wyotech becuase, (A) I live, eat, breath rods. (B) I want to try and make a career out of what I love. (C) I just want to be able build a car from scratch. I love working on cars. I like old world craftsmanship that goes into building rods. I and I love feeling of accomplishment when I finish a project.

I am 21 turning 22 in a month.

I am not really sure how I got into Go Jobs and Kustoms. My dad built Jeeps and Trucks. I used to always work on stuff with him. I guesse the main reason I got into rods was becuase I always owned older vehichles. I don't mean Model T or A old, I mean like 60's, 70's stuff that I always had to wrench on. So I just respected cars as the Mechanical art they are. I love driving history.

You guys are right though. I should have givin some kind of introduction. Do have to admit. After browsing the board there is a lot of kool stuff flying around.

[Deyomatic]

Welcome, this place can teach you just as much as the folks at Wyotech. I lived in Malden/Watertown for almost 2 years, and worked on the Big Dig, which is why I made my above comment. I'd say that you'll love it out west, but Wyoming is colder than Mass. Maybe you like that, I know my friends all love the cold.
Did you ever go to either the Road Agents show in Hartford or the Alter Boys show in Worcester? Alot of the Alter Boys are in the Greater Boston area.

[blacktopbutcher]

Yeah I went to both the Road Agents show and The Alter boys show. I talk to those guys alot. I belong to the Blacktop Butchers C.C. I actually established the club in Mass and those guys where alot of help. Luke from the R/A is a good guy. Pete from the Alter Boys is real cool to. He definately has a cool modified. Have you seen his gold modified.

[Deyomatic]

Only seen it in pictures, I met him (Pete) at the Road Agents show in 2002. I came out here the following October. I never did make it to the Altar Boys show. I only just recently found out that Mag Neto is printed in Watertown.

I'm actually heading back for Christmas, not looking forward to the lack of car culture for 2 weeks. Out here in Phoenix, there are weekly cruise nights almost any night of the week all year round. I went home for a wedding in October, and I can count on one hand how many cool old cars I saw. I can only imagine I won't see ANY while I'm home this December. Oh well, it'll give me something to look forward to when I get back.

[blacktopbutcher]

Yeah Pete's modified is a cool car. Did you catch the article in Magneto about the drags in Butler NewYork. The Stumblin Idols car the Boston ShitBox was pretty narly. I actually helped Torr push the thing into the Road Agents show this year. The Stumblin Idols are a cool crew. They are from Boston.

The club I belong to is building a drag car to hopefully race at next years club drags. Hopefully we can get it done by then.

[Jimv]

I'm also a memeber of the blacktop butchers & Steves doing a great job of running the club.
Thats nice of You TMAN to tell him to stay home!! "you have enough wankers out there"!!!! Its Wyo.what else you going to have there?? People wear cowboy hats all te time!!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Hes a good guy & will be helpful on the HAMB.
JimV

[Pete]

Hey Deyo,


You sissy! I cant believe you left Mass! You ripped up roads up then up and left....what the hell! Hows AZ treating ya? Hope all is well.

Hey, I like the cold weather, kind of like a forced vacation from driving the cars....gives me a chance to fix all the broken shit and pick up the pieces that fell off on the Boston roads.

Pete-

[Jimv]

Flaven, what are you doing up so early?? I hope your just getting home form partying last nite!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[chaco]

Wyo tech sucks, so does laramie wyoming, and so does the Albany county shereifs dept there. Oh yeah and so does their jail.

[blacktopbutcher]

Thanks Jim.

Shit I thought I was in front of a firing range.
Ill just keep focussed to my goals.

[blacktopbutcher]

Hey Pete,

Whats happening, Finaly a familar face. Hows the cold weather treating yeah. I was working on the 54 the other day getting the triple dueces on and I thought my hands were going to fall off. You have to love working outside man!!! At times like these I wish I had a garage.

[hillbillyhellcat]

So let me get this straight - you live in Mass, but you're going all the way to Wyoming while you could learn the same program in Blairsville, PA?

I hope you are aware that Wyotech also has a campus near Pittsburgh. Might help you save some money as you won't have to move so far. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[chaco]

Hey dont get me wrong, if thats your dream do it. All im saying is i went there, got good marks, came home and then got the rude awakining when i tried to get a job. I took the 9 month collision and refinishing with applied service management. The sad thing was in the end it was the management course that has helped me the most. I just want to be realistic with you. I learned alot in the refinishing phase though. just dont believe everything the recruiter guy tells you they lie bigtime. I would check into geting your own houseing. dont use the schools. also you cannot walk from housing to the school. I had to do it once or twice. It is very far. If you come from a col cold place then the weather wont be so bad for you, i went from cali. I never new your nose hairs could freeze when you breath in. And 20 below 0 is not that much colder than 0.

[Tinbender]

9 months? That doesn't seem like enough time. How much did it cost?
How long is the program your taking Butcher(I'd rethink that name if your going into this biz) Whats the cost?

[Tim]

well not to but in but it cost alot lol, but the advantage is that the programs are updated every year, like if you were going to work on new cars ect you can go back years after you graduate and take the program again for free and its all the new updated info.

that is a huge bonus if your doing tech stuff in my opinion becuase youll always need to know the new stuff.

you when make it out there look up nick day and tell him tim says hi, hes a big goofy guy shouldnt be hard to find


tim

[Tman]

I have a stack of WyoTech resumes on my desk right now. I wouldnt hire any of them. Like Chaco said, the real world is a lot different than what educators try to tell you. Remember that liking cars does not mean you should work on them for a living. I like to shit, doesnt mean I should be a plumber.

Good luck, if it is really what you want to do, fine. Just be prepared to look for a job pushing a broom for a while to get started in a shop. Also, I am a short hop away from Laramie, you are welcome to stop by Rapid City for a visit. The name of the shop I work at is A&A Restoration.

[Jimv]

why do you have to shot down his dreams!!! If your a slug in life you won't make it no matter what you try!! It depends on what you want to get out of the education.Boy I never saw such negative Karma in my life.If he was joining the Army or something & there's a chance he'll get his ass blown off then try & talk him out of it!!You shouldn't fuck with someones goals in life!!!
JimV

[briggs&strattonChev]

Hey, I sent you an email to your yahoo address listed on your site (about a shirt)....................Briggs

[blacktopbutcher]

Yeah I did now they had a campus in Penn. But when I applied the new hot rod facility was still under construction. If I could reapply I would rather go to Penn. I agree much cheaper.

[blacktopbutcher]

Fortuanetly I am going into the whole school thing with an open mind. The only thing I am looking to get out of the schooling is a good foundation in fabrication. I know a few people with shops that are willing to take me under there wing. But I am reading to work my F*ing ass off. Thats what I am all about, acheiving my goals no matter how hard they are.

[blacktopbutcher]

I am going for 12 months. 6 for collision and refinishing, 3 for Hot Rod fab, and 3 for Highpo engines and Chassis fab. The whole program is about 26 grand. I know it is alot. I will be in debt for a while.

I got my name from the car club I run. The Blacktop Butchers. Check it us out at http://blacktopbutchers.tripod.com

[blacktopbutcher]

I agree with you that some hobbies don't make good jobs. But Rods and Kustoms is what I am all about. It is what I love to do, it is my passion. I will be envolved in the industry in some way, shape or form. Even if that means pushing a broom. I will just work my ass off and let my work speak for itself. Isn't that the way it should be.

I will definately have to take you up on the invite. I love cheaking out what everyone is into. Gives you a better scope on things. Opens your eyes to new ideas.

[Tinbender]

Best of luck to you. Your right, you get out of it what you put into it.
26 grand. Damn I thought our program was expensive!

[fishtank]

Congrats man. I went to tech and learned more than you can imagine. You'll have a great time. The street rod shop is insane, and chasis fab just got there own huge building.

It has it's downsides to: colder than hell, Laramie is lame. If you have never been to Colorado or anything like it, it is awesome. When you get there you've got to go to Suzy's gas station and met larry and suzy. They're great people. good luck and have fun.

[blacktopbutcher]

Thanks man, Finally some one has some real positive words about the school. Gives me hope. I plan on giving it my all and getting every drop knowledge the school has to offer.

[Tman]

Here is another positive note. Scott Smith is the name of the new paint instructor at WyoTech. He is from Rapid City and one helluva painter. Even if he cant teach at all, WATCH him!!! He is good.

[trey]

twenty-six thousand dollars? you gotta be kidding me, for one year at wyotech? dude, id seriously rethink that. i gots me reasons.

trey

[hillbillyhellcat]

I checked out the school myself last year, had a rep supposed to come over, etc. Then I figured out how much dough it was going to cost me... I figured over $30K for 12 months. So it's going to cost me more money to learn to do the work than I'll actually when I get out of school. Um, no way, Jose.

I went to a vo-tech school instead. 10 months of bodywork practice and experience for less than $3K. I'll admit I'll be more skilled with body filler than metal, but at least I can learn some basics and decide if that's the career I want. Plus I can do work on my own cars and get lots of help.

If you go for it, good for you. Just make sure that you know there are alternatives. I'd still like to go to Wyotech for collision and custom auto body, but only when I can really afford it. Maybe after I work for ten years! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[blacktopbutcher]

Dude I definately agree with you. It is a ton of money. I actually checked into some Votech schools but non around had what I was looking for. After all done and said for, with housing it is costing me a total of 31,000. That is with financial aid. I am still waiting on that. The programs come out to about 26-28 grand I can't remember the exact numbers. I try to forget. I can say that I will be in debt for a long time. But I think it is worth it.

[trey]

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I'll admit I'll be more skilled with body filler than metal,

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no different than what i have seen at wyotech. i remember the first year i went to the anual show they have, i was amazed. you can go through and look at all the students projects. the cars are either pink or green, depend on what brand filler they use. i never would have guessed that they use that much filler...

trey

[Bass]

I toured Wyotech on the way out to Bonneville this year. I'll tell ya what...I was pretty impressed with the facilities. You have pretty much everything you would ever possibly need to build a hot rod right there at your fingertips.

If you've got the scratch to go up there and get through it, then I would say that you might as well give it a shot. Just don't expect job offers to come falling from the sky after you graduate. You're going to have to work your ass off to get your foot in the door in the rod industry.

I will also say that an apprenticeship at a reputable rod shop would be as good or better, but finding a good builder that's willing to take you under his wing on your own is gonna be a lot harder than just going to Wyotech.

Don't get discouraged...just build the best car you possibly can with the time and the resources that are going to be available. Do that and you'll be on the right track.

When you get out there, tell Brick with the chopped shoebox that Bass said hi.

[blacktopbutcher]

That is one of the things that appealed to me also. They have everything you need to build a awsome car. So I figured I would try and get as much experience as possible on all the machines and with all the tools. I plan on going nuts with my car if I can get enough green stamps to ship it out there. I am working my ass off as we speak to get the money to ship the car.

Steve B&W

[sawzall]

26 grand!!

I didnt spend that much for a B/A and a Masters Degree combined.. wow.. (and I graduated in 2000)

good luck..

[truth]

Hey Steve - welcome!

[Brickster]

Bass, how has it been going?

I'm an instructor and former graduate of WyoTech. My opinion may be a bit biased but I don't know of any other place where you can get the experience that you get here. Sure you might find a shop that will take you under their wing and let you start out sweeping the floors and possibly someone there will be nice enough to share some of the knowledge that they have struggled to get them selves over quite a few years. Or come through the street rod course here and get the basics in operating a English wheel, a power hammer, Pullmax, building panels with a bag and mallet, TIG, MIG and oxy/acetylene welding, leading. Learn the steps for chopping tops, sectioning, channeling, ect.
If you think that you'll leave here a master craftsman then your just dreaming but if you show up with a strong interest in custom cars and a good attitude then maybe when you graduate and get a that same job sweeping the floors I guarantee that it won't be long before give up the broom and are doing what you really want and not waiting for someone to show you how

[ChrisinPhilly]

Go,have a good time,you're a young guy, there's plenty of time to pay the money back. The best times in my life was when I was twenty one and on my own. I'm jealous

[Tinbender]

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If you think that you'll leave here a master craftsman then your just dreaming but if you show up with a strong interest in custom cars and a good attitude then maybe when you graduate and get a that same job sweeping the floors I guarantee that it won't be long before give up the broom and are doing what you really want and not waiting for someone to show you how


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Very well put, doesn't matter where you go, YOU have to make it happen.
Welcome to the HAMB brxter, I'll be looking forward to you input.

[hotrodladycrusr]

BlackTopButcher, Welcome to the HAMB. Good luck with your dreams and goals.


Does brxter = Brick?? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Either way, welcome to the HAMB

[blacktopbutcher]

I plan on going to the school with an open mind and a ton off anticipation. I know I have the drive, and I want to learn as much as possible and am willing to put in what ever it takes to acheve my goals.

Hopefully I will see you out there Baxter. Definatly looking foward to get this rolling.

[choppersilverstreak]

Amen brxter! Wyotech does not stand for miracle but you get out of the school what you put in. I also am a wytoech graduate and instructor and I believe we have one of the most highly trained and definatley one of the most extravagent shops around. I have been into rods forever but am a little biased when it comes to traditonal style rods but neverless the school gets many firstimers hands on expierence on many tools most people dont even get to see and touch. And blacktopbutcher if you get a chance come see us in Pa we would love show you the new building it is done and it is nice.