Fear and Loathing in Salt Lake City???? [Archive]

Smokin Joe

11-18-2003, 08:08 PM

Once you figure out the difference between East Second South and South Second East, it's a piece of cake! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Check out the Air Farce museum up by Roy. They have some nifty old planes up there. B17, Phantom, all kinds of nostalgic stuff. Cheap too. Ask at the Hill Airforce Base gate. It's pretty close to the gate at Roy. I'd come on down and let ya buy me a beer, but I'm working all week.

The Jazz are playing the Kings Wed and the Bucks Friday 7pm at the delta center.

Get with Buick59. The good bars are kinda hidden. And like the boy said it's 1/2 beer there so ya gotta drink twice and piss once to get a buzz! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

D Picasso

11-18-2003, 08:39 PM

worst city in the union to find good coffee and a place to smoke, for cryin' out loud.

it's even worse out in the rest of the state.

dondanno

11-18-2003, 08:54 PM

Dont forget your beer drinkin permit....

cadlights

11-18-2003, 08:57 PM

To bad ya got here to late for Tomato Days in Hooper.
Ronald Regan even came for that. Most traffic I ever seen on this country road. Oh! by the way they sell high octane
at the state liqour stores. How do I know? Well, ah,
somebody told me.

choprods

11-18-2003, 09:09 PM

check out the Great salt lake "beach"- seemed strange to us -but worth the look..we were there in october

Robert

11-18-2003, 09:33 PM

You're not helping our tourism! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

hankcash

11-18-2003, 09:37 PM

I agree with you Ryan.
That place gives me the willies!

You definatley aren't in Kansas anymore...... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
HC

modernbeat

11-18-2003, 10:01 PM

The place smells wierd too.

Buick59

11-18-2003, 10:05 PM

God....ignorance truly is bliss. I'll holler at ya Ryan.

Mike

quickrod

11-18-2003, 10:21 PM

can't be all that bad, ihear you can have at least 25or30 wives or some shit like that,hell ya get tired of a ritz,you can switch to a saltine....we aint in kansas anymore toto...outy...quickrod http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

roadstar

11-18-2003, 10:31 PM

We went through SLC going to and from Bonniville. It was the first time I saw a Mormon In real life http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

cadlights

11-18-2003, 10:42 PM

OK! I don't normally rant but here goes.
A few years back Utah was a pretty good place to live.
The bigest worry ya had was somebody blasting your
mailbox with a baseball bat at 1.30 in the morning.
Then! Some folks on the west coast found out they
could sell their home for 2 million bucks and come to
Utah and build the same home for 200.000. At that
time there were only three houses in the state worth
200.00. So, here they came to get away from all the problems they were having there. Well they brought their
problems with them and now they are our problems.
Traffic tripled, crime tripled and the cost of living
skyrocketed along with the cost of houses. Ya can't even go for a sunday cruise without worrying about some jerk
in a suv talking on a cell phone running ya over.
I'd move to Idaho cept them folks is getting tired of
Utah folks moving up there to get away from what it's
become down here. Yep! it is weird alright. Ok, I've
got that off my chest. Gimme hell, it don't matter
cause hell's already here. Stop by for a cold one Ryan
if ya can get from Salt Lake to Hooper in under 8 hours.

prime mover

11-18-2003, 10:45 PM

if theres fear and loathing involved they probably think your wierd too!

I've heard it has a strange feel to it.

Germ

11-18-2003, 10:52 PM

No good DRUGS there, so you can forget about FEAR or LOATHING..

bought some BLOW once in UTAH while on tour,,

the shit made me have to take a POOP...

plus the AIR there smells like MOLD,,,

It was bad for a NIGGA'S allergic reactions, to
CULTS

And everyone rides a BIKE on sundays with BLUE shorts and a white button up shirt..

Something about a MISSION..

I needed BOOZE..

NO DICE ..

Tman

11-18-2003, 11:26 PM

I actually like SLC? Of course, it is only for the mountains around there, Mtn bike and rock/ice climbing. I was there back in 88 for the first time. Got drunk at a place under the freeway called the Sppedway Cafe or someting. Saw Das Damen and some other punk band play. Some skinhead on a Norton picked us up a couple cases of beer for a pack of smokes. Kept us tuned for the duration of our stay. I will say that spending time there last summer that the town is better than 15 years ago. At least they dont roll the sidewalks up at 10Pm anymore http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

ray

11-19-2003, 02:42 AM

cadlights: newsflash! thats the whole damn country now! things have changed.

slc now is probably more like 1971 vegas than modern day vegas is like 1971 vegas in the fear and loathing sense. not that i've been to either.

oh, and remember guys, ryan carries painkillers! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

james

11-19-2003, 07:44 AM

I lived there for a year or so in the early 90's, and kinda liked it. Except for the religion part, that is. Kinda weird when you meet someone and the first thing they ask is if you're LDS. First time someone asked me that I though they were dyslexic and asking if I had any acid. Definatly some killer mountain biking and snowboarding.

Curly

11-19-2003, 08:24 AM

Been there a few times...big difference between southern Utah and Northern. I like southern Utah. SLC DOES smell! It has a weird sulphur/moldy smell. Went up to Logan and had fun. The religion is odd...when I told them where I was from they were asking my about the "Homeland". I live in the town next to where Brigham Young moved from to go to SLC. Was weird. Beehive state and seagulls? And a weird chick that was on some kinda hallucinogen and trapped between the glass doors at a Carl's Burger joint...what a strange trip that was. Oh yeah it was my honeymoon...1st wife was Mormon and Amish, bad combo. Amon or Mormish...just ain't right. During the divorce I felt like the chick stuck between the doors!

Good luck Ryan, hook up with someone that can get you into a "private club"...you'll be fine....when you get home!

4t64rd

11-19-2003, 08:58 AM

Here's the only thing I've ever heard about Utah.

I have weird friends, I just do...

So one of my friends decides he wants to visit his mother in Florida. He has no car, doesn't drive and has no money and he lives in Berkley, CA. So he does what he always does, gets a few pair of shoes, a backpack and starts walking. he usually gets rides from interesting people and only has to walk a few miles at a time. HE HAD TO WALK THE ENTIRE WIDTH OF UTAH! Nobody would pick him up, he got to Colorado line and he was picked up and continued like usual. He said it was like somebody put out a memo.

That's it, that's all I know.

Deuce Rails

11-19-2003, 09:02 AM

Go to the Dead Goat Saloon downtown. You have to "join" as a one-week member for five bucks. Once you do, the place is a completely normal, good times place.

--Matt

saltflataddict

11-19-2003, 10:19 AM

you guys are fucking hilarious. Your myths of whats its like in Utah. You have no clue, its not that bad at all. There are actually more mormons in Cali. than here, believe or not its a fact. You want real beer head to the liquor store and throw it in the fridge, they dont serve it cold here. Hmm,lets see just got done riding the Bird, and some fresh powder, what did you ride, are your Mtns open yet?? Then hit the skatepark in the same day, cant really do that in LA or other parts..Tonight plan on seeing what the knock in the Galaxie is all about. You have to entertain yourself here thats for sure, but its a good life, and a great place to raise your kids, "just have to teach them that Mormons mean you know harm, their just the weird cult that runs (ruins)our state.", quoted from my fellow Ca. workers who live here now.Ryan you should have let us know you were coming, would have bought you a Slayer ticket to go the other night. You could have seen our world famous "straight edge" fucks in real life, be the biggest bunch of pussies that they are.Smell in our state, I dont notice it, but it could be the "lack of good drugs" that warped my smell. No really its not that bad, you just have to find the fun, believe me I have been to KC many times, and its not any better. Though when they have the KC Oi! fest it cant be beat, and you have MLS soccer which I like. I know the erie feeling you guys described but its not in SLC, its all the other towns. The bar someone mentined (the Dead Goat) is no more they are turning it into a strip club!! Come to think of it there are no good bars here.. Fuck I hate this place...why do I live here, oh yeah the skatepark is a block away from my new house!

Fat Hack

11-19-2003, 10:24 AM

"Yeah, see Utah and DIE!" - intellectual quote from "The Car"

a/fxcomet

11-19-2003, 12:48 PM

[ QUOTE ]
There are actually more mormons in Cali. than here, believe or not its a fact.

[/ QUOTE ]

Population of cali is 33,871,648 (US census). There are 750,000 there that are LDS (http://www.adherents.com/adhloc/Wh_48.html).

Population of Utah is 2,233,169 (US Census). 70% of the state is mormon (http://www.adherents.com/adhloc/Wh_343.html).

Thats a huge differnce. If you go by per capita, its even more significant.

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." -Mark Twain

Buick59

11-19-2003, 12:54 PM

Wow what an amazing non hot rod topic. Would you say this is off topic?

Smokin Joe

11-19-2003, 01:03 PM

Not if you take Ryan to see Bo's stuff and post the pics. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

KCsledz

11-19-2003, 02:19 PM

IF your the outdoors type SLC cant be beat! Snowboard all winter and play in the sun all summer. I guess that I would rather be there than here not to bag on KC but I hate it! I moved here out of marrige not choice. There is absolutely nothing to do in the winter (ie no mountains!) and in the summer outside of escaping to the inlaws farm in Diamond (joplin area) is worlds of fun or oceans of fun. Lame ass rides and fat moms in bikinis. How fun is that? At least my kids are having fun, right! On a good note at least now there is the hamb drags!

hotrodladycrusr

11-19-2003, 02:34 PM

True story

Tuesday August 19th 2003
noonish

While approaching SLC from B'ville it was determined that Big Olds really needed an oil change and the salt washed off his wheels. Arrived in SLC and found a quicky oil change place, I couldn't pull Big Olds into their bay cuz he was too low. No big deal, they pointed us to another one a few miles away. Pulled up to the bay of the second one, parked and got out to stand around and wait my turn to pull in.

An employee (in his 40's) walks over, points at Big Olds and asks me what that stuff is. Meaning he wanted to know what was all over my car. I said to him "you mean you don't know?" He shakes his head no while another guy walks over. That guy didn't know either but he guessed SNOW! Mind you it's over 90 degrees out. Three guys ended up asking what it was, and really had no clue. Finally I say to them "You mean you guys live 2 hours from B'ville International Speedway and you don't know what that is?" They say, kind of together, "is that salt?" I looked at Beatnik in disbelief, as I'm shaking my head and thinking to myself, "am I really going to let these guys change my oil?" http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Kept a very close eye on them while they were doing the work. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif I still laugh sometimes when I think about those guys, who, I would imagine, like cars cuz they work at an oil change place, and none of them had ever been to B'ville or seen salt on a car, and they only live 2 hours from the place. I did kinda feel like I was in the Twilight Zone while there.

Fat Hack

11-19-2003, 02:41 PM

The state is just ripe for a Stephen King novel, isn't it? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Smokin Joe

11-19-2003, 02:59 PM

I've found that in Bakersfield none of the convience store people have ever heard of FAMOSO. I ask every time I gas up there and in 40 years, I've never once found a kid working in a Bakersfield gas station that's been to the race track!
How the hell can a kid grow up in Drag City and not know that!
It ain't just Utah...

roadstar

11-19-2003, 06:15 PM

Damn Denise, give those guys a break. You do have Michigan plates on your car....It could have been snow http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Ryan

11-19-2003, 08:20 PM

I just got done taking the dime tour of the city in my rented Land Rover... This might be the prettiest little city I've ever been in. I mean it, just a real quaint little city surrounded by mountains... There's not getting around it though - 70% of the people here are weirdos...

That said, I could live here easily. I'd take the place over with loud pipes and bumper scrapes... and once a year we would celebrate the day I took over and call it Thanksgiving! Rad.

I did see a bitchin chopped 52 chevy hardtop parked in downtown today. hummmm... wonder if he was a freak???

Ham

11-19-2003, 08:32 PM

Hell, I don't know what to think of this!? Moved here from SoCal about 10 years ago, yeah it's a bit different, but so is everywhere. SLC is actually pretty cool, try living about 45 minutes south in Prozac Valley AKA Provo, then you're really in the Twilight Zone! SLC is pretty cool, not much much of a scene, any scene for that matter, but fuck scene's anyway. Wouln't want to be a part of it. Before I get to rambling, Ryan if ya liked to meet up before you split, that would be cool. Give me a holler 801-466-3834/801-532-3539...
Tman, sorry to say the Speedway is no more. It was a great place for shows...

Buick59

11-19-2003, 09:20 PM

Heya Ryan Im heading to Bo's tomorrow. If ya wanna take a look at some amazing shit gimmie a call.

Mike

Ryan

11-19-2003, 09:22 PM

Mike, how long would a trip to bo's take??? How far away is he???

WZ JUNK

11-20-2003, 07:00 AM

You need to go to Bo's.

james

11-20-2003, 07:45 AM

Hey, Big Daddy lived in Utah (Sandy? I think), so there are some cool people there! Ryan, If you bike, grab a rental at a bike shop and head towards the giant letter by the capital, some cool mountain bike trails right there. Also, it's a pretty cool veiw to drive up behind the capitol building at night and look down state street, you can see for miles.

hotrodladycrusr

11-20-2003, 08:59 AM

You NEED 2 go 2 Bo's, even if that means spending another day in the area.

Smokin Joe

11-20-2003, 11:57 AM

The Cowboy
A cowboy walks into a bar in Utah, orders three mugs of beer and sits in the back room, drinking a sip out of each one in turn. When he finishes them, he comes back to the bar and orders three more.

The bartender approaches and tells him, "You know, a mug goes flat after I draw it, it would taste better if you bought one at a time."

The cowboy replies, "Well, you see, I have two brothers. One is in Australia, the other is in Dublin, and I'm in Utah. When we all left home, we promised that we'd drink this way to remember the days we drank together. So I drink one for each o' my brothers and one for myself."

The bartender admits that this is a nice custom, and leaves it there.

The cowboy becomes a regular in the bar, and always drinks the same way.

He orders three mugs and drinks them in turn. One day, he comes in and orders two mugs. All the regulars take notice and fall silent.

When he comes back to the bar for the second round, the bartender says, "I don't want to intrude on your grief, but I wanted to offer my condolences on your loss."

The cowboy looks quite puzzled for a moment, then a light dawns and he laughs. "Oh, no, everybody's just fine," he explains. "It's just that my wife had us join that Mormon
Church and I had to quit drinking. --- Hasn't affected my brothers though!"

saltflataddict

11-20-2003, 12:07 PM

ha,ha thats a good one Joe.. Never heard that.

Ryan, you need to go to Bo's, its worth the 1 1/2 hour trip. Bo is the nicest guy to, hope you go..

saltflataddict

11-20-2003, 12:12 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Some skinhead on a Norton picked us up a couple cases of beer for a pack of smokes

[/ QUOTE ]

Tman, I think I know that guy, use to be a good friend named Walker. Its a big, but small town you know what I mean.

hankcash

11-20-2003, 12:19 PM

You know you're a Utahn if:

You are 25 years old and completely bald.

Your were an aunt or uncle before the age of 3.

Your spouses mother was pregnant at your wedding.

You have more children that you can find biblical names for.

Your family considers a trip to McDonalds a night out.

Peanut butter on the seats of the car is an accessory.

You feel guilty when you watch Monday Night Football.

Your kids believe the deer hunt is a national Holiday: July 24th too.

You consider a temple recommend a credit reference.

At least two of your salad bowls are at the homes of neighbors.

You believe you must be 18 years of older to order coffee at a restaurant.

There is a similarity between the L.A. riots and ward basketball.

You think Jack Daniels is a country western singer.

You negotiate prices at garage sales.

You make Jell-o without a recipe.

You hear about BYU football in a testimony meeting.

Ham

11-20-2003, 03:25 PM

Too funny H.C., yeah, heard just about most Utah/Mormon jokes! It really isn't as bad as it seems. Maybe I've been here too long. There's still a bit of old tin around, just have to know where to find it. It beats living in the high prices of SoCal, but I do miss living a 20 minute walk from Newport Beach... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Smokin Joe

11-20-2003, 03:38 PM

Up here in Idaho, we just have to watch out for the MAVs.
MAV = Mormon Assault Vehicle.
That's a Surburban or other large SUV driven by a couple soccer moms on the phone while doing their hair in the mirror and 9 or 10 kids in the back throwing shoes, tools, toys or whatever at passing cars out the side windows.

Due to the popularity of the Survivor TV shows, Idaho is planning to do its own version, entitled "Survivor, Idaho Style."

The contestants will start in Boise, travel to New Meadows,
Grangeville, Lewiston, then to Coeur d'alene and Sandpoint, at that point they will turn back south and go through Kellogg, Moscow, Kamiah, then to McCall, Idaho Falls, Twin Falls and finally back to Boise.

Each will be driving a pink Lexus with a bumper sticker that reads,
"I'm gay, I don't eat potatoes, I'm not Mormon, I hate logging, ranching and mining, I voted for Al Gore and I'm here to confiscate your guns."

The first one to make it back to Boise alive wins.
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Boyd Who

11-20-2003, 06:13 PM

My only experience with SLC was driving through it on the way to B'ville in 2002.
In over 50,000 miles of driving my '48 without a gas gauge, the ONLY place I've ever run out of gas was SLC. Luckily we were at the western edge of the city by the industrial park, so gas was easy to find. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Nice looking city, though, from what I could see.