100% non traditional exaust hangers, for the new WORLD 1%ers

[cole]

made these tips and hangers, way over board.......... but what the fuck. Was wanting to do them for a while,wanted to hang some bike pipes this way, but Nomad needed some ends so I got to it.


the wedge ring(with holes driled) slid over tube ,then roset welded thru to tube, the grinded of spots, then cut out other two pieces and zipped those together, looks like a floating clamp but its fastened , GAYNESS EMERGED.........tips a simple .....roll wire a fewtimes around a little smaller tube then the tube you want to , then cut a ring ou of that slinky, weld to join circle, place on end of tube.........weld only on the inside....file ,sand ......Queer Heaven. bye faggots

[cole]

they mount to side of frame ,with a 1/4 inch rubber chunk under them(match shape)

[cole]

long view

[Machinos]

Nice work... that's stainless, right?

[cole]

last one

[Germ]

You stole "RAT RODDERS" 101 IDEA #239 and it PREVAILED because I brought FIRE WATER..... and MY PERFUME shined the LIGHT on your "ETERNAL" negro"...

YOU are the SPAWN of everything EVIL I always HOPED to ACCOMPLISH.
The world builds BARRIERS to keep minds like ours PASTURIZED from the SAFE and SANE world.............

I pee'd outside the other day. and thought about JASONS experience with monster garage..... I was thinking that JASON would have PEE'd in the shop...............

You HAVE flash........

we are going celebrate the TET holiday in SALINAS, and salute the MONKEY....
And we don't even have to wear our SUITS....

I will send you a copy of my PORTFOLIO..

Without you and the BRAINS of INDIANA. I would have already ended it all................
FATHERFURY sent PICTURES of his KIDS.....
CHEERIOS and 45 calibers....

I bet that KID PUKED the SHAPE of the SWASTIKA, and LIT a SMOKE when the NURSE PATTED his ASS....
the KID was BORN with PUBIC HAIR..
and a FETISH for JUMP ROPING PIXIE stick eating GIRLS..............

PRE-SCHOOL will be ROUGH......

I'M scared of my BARE METAL creations.

XOXOXOXO
"TEXAS IS THE REASON the ASTRONAUTS are DEAD"

I'm cold?

[cole]

Stainless, yes sir.

[cole]

Im headed for HELLFIRE as we speak Germ.

Bo Bo is in the alley talking to his zulu god about being King of the world, just like Ali ,he moves so beautiful and quick ,you don't see his fist ,just his blonde ladies head go back ,then the sound reaches us a moment later, He layed three "cockney jive talk'n no mo" on her prize fighter face before she hit the blacktop.

things are good tonight ,every thing is in order.

[Tman]

You two got some sorta GAYSPEAK going? Its like you were raised by J Edgar Hoover then set adrift as toddlers. I didnt have enough Guinnes at the pub to qualify as being drunk so I wont call either of ya.I'll wait till I forget every thing we talk about, more fun that way.

Nice hanger idea Cole, I might have to use it. Thanks.

[Germ]

CHEF-TMAN
I'm kinda HUNGRY.???

you got GRILLED ONIONS?

Are you sure they make a J-B WELD that works with STAINLESS?


You need the ETERNAL NEGRO.
to even ROAM with the 5 legged PIT BULLS....

you have to KNOW how your BALLS smell before you even SMELL them.....

I just got BACK from BEATING my NEIGHBORS old lady.
I needed some PRACTICE. to make sure that i can still seperate the SINNERS from the POCKET PROTECTOR "saints"..............

even if I wear my button down shirt for the LADYS.

It's a struggle to remain a step ahead in the BRAIN, yet MAKE the RULES for the wrath of TRADITIONAL HOT ROD JOSEPH
Mc Carthyism, that the FOLLOWERS shove down your throat....
FINGER POINTING......

It's about CHANGING the STRUCTURE......

J EDGAR HOOVER was really GAY!!!
it's not a LIE........

the brackets Might not be ROCKABILLY RAT ROD DEUCE COUPE SKI SLOP HAIRED POMPADORABLE. "SETZERIZED(tm) enough for a SHITBOX..

But the PIZZAZ of that HIDDEN NEGRO in ones HEART, sure comes through SHINING. WHEN "CREATIVITY" and "FUNCTION" meet up. smoke some ANGEL DUST and fuck each other in the same sentence....

It USUALLY MAKES GOOD BABIES after the LOAD of BRAIN MATTER is DROPPED from an ORGASMED MIND.................

Our BALLS drag.
cause of that SLEDGE...

Serious though.
We could cook some HOT DOGS at HAMB DRAGS. on someones SHOPPING BASKET Insert 32 ford GRILL...........

THE INTERAL NEGRO allows you to WALK amoungst THE crowd of REGULARS. and you can PLACATE them into SAFETY with your The SYNTHETIC Shopping mall SMILE!.....

That TEETH are SHINING and BRUSHED SMILE on your FACE to fool the OUTSIDERS(tm) that is the SMILE that keeps his BLACK COALED soul CAGED !!!!
While your doing your best to BLEND in with these CREEPS your MIND is SNARLED with DEVIOUS means OF PILLAGE and PLUNDER.............

AND there are no GROOVES in HELLFIRES gunsights.....................

XOXOXOXO
CALL ME T_BALLS..
I miss the ASS LICKING..

"THE LEADER of the WORTHLESS"
My mind will never die of HUNGER"

[Boones]

thanks for the show and tell... I sit in Ahhh over the craftmanship

[Nads]

Mother of fuck!
I'm pretty good at scratching one of my three testicles at any given time. Yeah I'm that talentless.
You give me something to perspire to, Mr. cole.

[roadstar]

Tman, YOu obviously don't have the HELFIRE(tm) Decoder ring http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif...

Trust me they just talk about cars.

Cole, I really like that hanger. I can't tell you how many nice cars I've seen with bad exhaust systems. You sharing will help and inspire pleanty of people here.

[Fat Hack]

Truly art...exhaust system design and intallation is one of my Secret Passions...ya done good, Man! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Paul]

I'm leaving the drool marks on my computer where I licked my monitor to remind me of how sweet some of the work is here.

nice cole nice

[JimC]

CRAFTSMANSHIP!
Pure and Simple.

[Revhead]

Awesome work Cole.

[tucker]

Everytime Cole posts a cool 'Look what I did and how I did it' post, you can always expect Germ to be riding his jock with 4 or 5 long moonman language posts. Now I'll sit here and wait for Germ to come back with some witty dig about how he's a RULER and I'm just can't swing a mean hammer or some shit.

[Tman]

hahahaha! I call ya sometime Germie, maybe even Cole. I like his words of wisdom, like "now go chase your old lady around the backyard".

[Gracie]

That first pic looks hauntingly familiar, Cole...

[D Picasso]

Geeminy Christmas!

whatever possessed you to construct such a piece, Mr. Foster?

gnng.

[zibo]

it is funny cause they look simple,
but I'm sure you have a couple hours in them.
tp aka zibo
the 1 a.m. post is a good sign too.

[Uncle Pancakes]

Now I know who is responsible for all the Salinas robberies...Cole I'll look for your and Germs photos on the Alisal Post Office wall. Nice work on those tips and hangers

[cool57]

[ QUOTE ]
tips a simple .....roll wire a fewtimes around a little smaller tube then the tube you want to , then cut a ring ou of that slinky, weld to join circle, place on end of tube.........weld only on the inside....file ,sand


[/ QUOTE ] Could you 'splain more? For I am sloooow of study.

[ESnacky6]

I think basically what Cole was saying is,

that lets say you have a 2" dia. exhaust tube, that you want to put the
'flare' on the end of,(which is actually just thick coiled wire welded on)
Find a slightly smaller dia. tube to wrap the wire around, like 1-3/4",
because when you wrap it around the 1-3/4" tightly, then let go,
it will spring back out to about the size you actually want, 2"...

then just cut a perfect circle coil out of the wire you just wrapped,
maybe even a touch long, so you can trim it to be a perfect fit,
then weld it together to make it an actual solid circle,
slip it over the end of the tube, weld the inner, grind/sand smooth...

Presto-chango, Done Deal..!!

am I correct Cole..?? -Jack
(p.s.- the Shoosh says Hello..!)

[40oz.]

that IS a nice piece. very trick,

[McGrath]

Looks good. Stainless is how I make my living, and since you look to be pretty good at it yourself, I'll give you some Top Secret information (just kidding, you may already know).

See the Brown around your Clamp that you weren't able to clean? If you anticipate doing a lot more Stainless work, buy a jug of Pickling Paste.

It is a special blend of acids in kind of a runny "paste" form. After you get done with all your fabrication work, but before final polishing, brush all the discolored areas with the paste, let it set for about twenty minutes, then rinse thoroughly.

It removes all the discoloration as well as removing any contaminants that could cause rust spotting later. After rinsing the paste off, all you have to do is rub the whole thing down with Brown "scotch brite" and it will leave you with a nice "brushed" Stainless finish.

What did you use for tubing? I made the Mufflers for my truck out of what they call "Sanitary" stainless tubing. It is the tubing that you see in food processing and Dairy plants, and already has a nice looking Brushed finish on it.
A little more expensive, but it saves a lot of time over polishing regular Stainless tubing.

[atch]

cole & snacky,

before this post i thought i was fairly bright and could understand plain english. however, i've come to realize that this is not the case. i don't know which is smarter; me or a box of rocks. i don't understand a word of what you're talking about with the wire thing. would one of you mind posting a pic or sketch showing what you mean?

thanx.

[McGrath]

Atch, what it amounts to is using a slightly smaller piece of tubing, or shaft to form a circle out of a piece of Heavy wire, or light Rod.

If you just wrapped it around something the same size, it will spring back somewhat and you will have to squeeze it together with something to weld it.

If you use something smaller, when it springs back, it will be closer to the size you actually wanted. Most of the time you make several wraps (slinky), instead of trying to make them one at a time. then cut your rings out and weld them up.

[Paul]

atch,

look at the third picture,

the end with the real perty mouth..

the thing that looks like you might buy at a head shop..

or like what Austin Powers wrote a book about,

the end closest the camera, see it????

[atch]

60's,

THANX!!!! now i see where the wire is going. i reread the post a dozen times and never realized that this wire ring cole was making got welded onto the very end of the tip and not at the hanger.

once you explained WHERE it went everything else made perfect sense.

now i'm marginally smarter than the box of rocks.

thanx again.

[ESnacky6]

darn it 60's...

I had an awesome sketch that I was struggling thru an art program on...

Oh well, I'm glad it makes sense now..!!!

It's wierd how something that's 'obvious' to some,
can not be to others... been guilty myself..!!

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Later, Snacks

[cole]

snacky6 & BFTWCS thanks for the help. A

After reading what i wrote again , I do not blame anyone for not understanding much of it.

Stainless 2" is some stuff a friend gave me , I beleive it is the same as you used BFTWCS because he works in food mnf, if I was building headers I would make sure what # material and rod I used.

The brown is from .........when I was done welding the bracket off saddle , it sucked in a bit, so i put some heat 180 to my weld and shrank the wang out , and didnt wire brush it , but I will check into the pickle juice, thanks for the info, luv it.

[Deyomatic]

How thick is this wire you are talking about?

[cole]

rod ,wire, solid round stock- I used 3/16 stainless ,and my ID of ring was almost flush(2") with outside of tube so there is a lil step to fill with weld and file for a seamless transition to flare, i will try to get a better pic

[cole]

this help?

[hotrodladycrusr]

So, let me get this straight, the flared end is actually a bunch of wire twisted around a smaller tube then welded in place on this one? and it ends up looking like that?? Very cool.

[McGrath]

"if I was building headers I would make sure what # material and rod I used"

If it was "Sanitary" tubing, it was most likely 316. I think you can get it in 308, but most food plants won't accept it because it is possible for 308 to rust.

If your buddy is in the business, he may be using pickling paste. Find a small plastic or Glass jar, with a plastic lid and have him bring you some home. Just don't store it anywhere enclosed, like in a tool box, because the fumes off it will rust the hell out of anything around it thats not stainless.

I know that big outfits like Kraft require that all their Stainless work be "Passivated", and generally pickling paste is part of that process. Passivation is just a process that removes all contamination after fabrication is complete, to minimize the chance of rust forming anywhere.

[38Chevy454]

Nice work Cole. Now to add some metallurgy to the confusion here.

The grade of stainless you used is probably a 316 like suggested. That grade will sensisitize in the heat affected zone (HAZ) around the weld. Sensitization is when the carbon and chromium form together (intermetallic compound is the specific term) and it causes a locally depleted region where the Cr is not at sufficient level to make it "stainless". Over time it can develop rust in that area. It's a consequence of the heat from welding and the carbon content, can't be avoided. If the material is "L" grade, as in 316L, the L means low carbon. This is better for welding as it has less carbon to cause the sensitization.

There are specific grades for welding that are not subject to this sensitization, they are called stabilized grades. They are types 321 and 347. These will not sensitize and have corrosion resistance same as the 316. Only slightly more cost, but a little harder to find. What makes them stabilized is the addition of titanium (321) or niobium (347). The Ti or Nb essentially tie up the carbon so that it can not form the carbon-chromium intermetallic compounds.

So if you have a big job, such as headers, the stabilized grades will be a better choice.

Passivation is an entirely different thing than sensitization. Passivation is a treatment that lowers the surface potential, so that the material has higher corrosion resistance.

[krupanut]

beauitful Cole,

is it SC11 spec.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif (I only expect Terry to get that)

[McGrath]

"The Ti or Nb essentially tie up the carbon so that it can not form the carbon-chromium intermetallic compounds."

We have some special filler rod for welding on the inside of Oscar Meyers Smokers. I don't remember the exact alloy, but it has "Ti" in the number. They clean the inside of the ovens with Caustic to remove the creosote from the smoking process, and a Strong Chlorine type stuff to kill all the Germs.

The Cleaning, combined with the Heating and cooling cycles, will corrode 316L within a few years, especially in the HAZ of the welds. We have been relining some of the older smokers with a different Metal. I dont remember the exact name, but its a form of Stainless. We call it S.M.O.

[McGrath]

"It's a consequence of the heat from welding and the carbon content,cant be avoided"

But it can be minimized. I weld a lot of 316L Sanitary and one of the requirements of the Food Plant I work in most often, is to meet certain guidelines pertaining to the HAZ.

Sanitary tubing is Purge Welded. In other words, you tack together as many pieces as possible, then cap both ends. A hose is stuck in one cap to supply Argon, and a small hole cut in the other cap to induce flow. The correct flow and Pressure rate, combined with the right Amperage and travel speed, will produce a 100% penetration bead that will meet the HAZ requirements. In other words, the bead will look the same on the inside as it does on the outside.

The HAZ requirements are based on a numbered scale involving the Color of the HAZ after Welding, on the inside of the Pipe. #1 on that scale is Colorless, #2 is a slight band of Gold, #3 is mostly Gold with a little Blue line right beside the Bead. The best I have ever been able to do by hand, is a #2. As far as I can tell, #1 is impossible without using an orbital Welder.

It is also impossible to keep all the Blue out of the outside surface of the Weld and still get 100% penetration, but it doesn't make any difference as long as the inside is a #2, or better. That is the purpose behind running argon through the tubing. On top of keeping the bead from oxidizing on the inside, the proper flow rate will help keep the inside cooler.

The inside is what the food plants are worried about, because most of their corrosion comes from the Salt and cleaning chemicals that are running through the Tubing.

[Deyomatic]

Yep, thanks for the dumbed down explanation. When everyone was talking about wire, I was only picturing something like MIG wire, or tie wire sized stuff, and it really didn't match up with your picture. 3/16" makes MUCH more sense.