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51 Leadsled
01-04-2010, 07:00 PM
What do you guys use to heat your shops with?

Older'n dirt
01-04-2010, 07:13 PM
I must be using a portable iceberg. It's 4 outside and 17 in my garage tonite.

Here's a similar discussion:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=409316&highlight=shop+heat

unclerichard
01-04-2010, 07:19 PM
Gas furnace

krylon32
01-04-2010, 07:21 PM
Propane. 1.79 a gallon. High of 10 today.

tudorkeith
01-04-2010, 07:24 PM
I have a hang on the wall ventless propane heater and a 100# tank in the shop. just a salamander up in the garage to heat it up then a small propane heater to keep it warm plus well insulated

rusty76
01-04-2010, 07:24 PM
gas furnace and a kerosene jet blaster in our shop at work. it keeps it at a warm 50 and on a good day at 55.

fordrat31
01-04-2010, 07:27 PM
Its called a hot dog heater. Works great

lorodz
01-04-2010, 07:30 PM
15000 btu bullet heater ..works great in a pop up tent..nice and toasty

50Delux
01-04-2010, 07:30 PM
The shop at the house I use a wood stove,and at work we have radiant heat tubes.

THE_DUDE
01-04-2010, 07:30 PM
Built a used oil burner..... Works good too skeched out to run it. Got some good coveralls.

swimeasy
01-04-2010, 07:31 PM
This has been talked about before, but my future shop will have raidiant floor heat, it feels good to lay on. Right now (even in Texas) it's a bitch to work on the floor. I also want a lift, but thats another story! BTW, the Garage Journal (Yup, Ryan again) has a lot of good talk about this stuff.

FalconMan
01-04-2010, 07:32 PM
hanging furnace that runs on natural gas. Radiant heat would be much nicer for when you need to paint.

ONAROLL
01-04-2010, 07:35 PM
dont want to steal a thread, but no sense in a new one, can I burn Jet-A fuel in my bullet forced air heater to heat my shop?

eugene vik
01-04-2010, 07:35 PM
hot a massive wood stove w forced air drAFT and burn wast oil in it too firepot is 350 gal barrel it heats a lot eats a lot of combustibles

this spring I am going to a used oil heater, a friend built it out of a oil space heater and it is as good as a factory oil heater will do that when it is warmer and easier to heat, looks like the bitter colds is back to the midwest:eek:

synthsis
01-04-2010, 07:37 PM
I just don't go in there during the winter.

Retro Jim
01-04-2010, 07:37 PM
I have a wood stove . Gave $100 for it .


RetroJim

CayoRV
01-04-2010, 07:40 PM
Old Duo-Therm Oil heater. This thing is about 3 ft square and 4 1/2 ft tall. Has a sort of carburetor on the back at the bottom. Fuel goes through an adjustable float bowl and flows into the bottom of the fire pot. Light the puddle and away we go! No electric required as it is a radiant type heater. I do use a small fan to help move the heat around the shop. Works great and will burn any type of fuel that will flow through the carb. I've used kerosene, diesel fuel, fuel oil, drain oil (thinned with kerosene) and recently set it up to start on diesel and switch over to used deep fryer oil I get from a friends bar/restaraunt! He pays to have it hauled away so I'm doing him a favor by taking it and I get free heat! Makes ya hungry though cause it smells like french fries a little bit.:eek:

RopeSeals???
01-04-2010, 07:43 PM
Propane "Trash Can"
200,000 Btu's, a little noisy, but better than freezing...
http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/173608_lg.gif

Hackerbilt
01-04-2010, 07:51 PM
I have a regular house style oil furnace and love it.
Garage isn't insulated yet though so the heat goes out kinda quick.
I need one more bundle of pink insulation and then the ceiling gets insulated which should help a lot. I'll be picking that up next week.
I'll then do the walls as I pick up a bundle here and there.
Oil is getting too expensive to just let the heat disappear!

carcrazyjohn
01-04-2010, 07:53 PM
Torpedo 125,000 btu and then shut down and use the a big wick type kerosene heater ,I just love how Kero is more money than Gasoline ,It aint right .....

BIGREDTODD
01-04-2010, 07:56 PM
:rolleyes:I just close all the doors and run the cars until it's comfy...:p

CINCUENTA~TRES
01-04-2010, 08:00 PM
Mr. Heater Propane furnace $450 form Northern Tool. They also sell a natural gas version as well. Very easy to install!

Cinc~

1oldrat
01-04-2010, 08:02 PM
wood/coal stove.

Ayers Garage
01-04-2010, 08:10 PM
dont want to steal a thread, but no sense in a new one, can I burn Jet-A fuel in my bullet forced air heater to heat my shop?

Yes. When I was working as an A&P, every man in the hanger had his own little bullet heater. When we needed fuel for one, we just popped the lid off the closest wing and pumped jet fuel into the heater's tank.

barnescole
01-04-2010, 08:11 PM
reddy heater, loud as hell though. and to answer the above question, you can use jet-a in mine, but it says specifically on the heater. i use diesel mostly.

chevy57dude
01-04-2010, 08:12 PM
Wood stove. "He who burns wood gets warm twice". Cutting firewood is good exercise, too.

no6
01-04-2010, 08:14 PM
Wood, same as the house, stays toasty!

Edsel_Presley
01-04-2010, 08:14 PM
If I had a shop, I'd heat it with a heater. Right now the closest I have is jumping in the car when the cold wind picks up too bad.

4ever18
01-04-2010, 08:17 PM
Electric Heatpump. A local HVAC guy was building a '57 Chevy and needed parts. I had the stuff he was needing. I did all the grunt work of the installation. He provided the units and materials. When I had everything installed, he sent one of his guys out to hook up the wires that I pulled, then charge and test the system. I had been using a Kerosene heater (expensive to use). My power bill only increased about $10 per month, plus my garage now has air conditioning (excellent during our hot, humid days).

Polara Pat
01-04-2010, 08:18 PM
After years of working on a wet frozen tarp in a low over-head carport with icy water dripping down the crack of my ass I finally built a garage this year with radiant in-floor heat and it's the best move I've ever made. I also insulated the crap out of the building since I live in the frosty North. I'm even inspired to work on annoying shitty jobs that I've been putting off for years. I highly recommend it and it's well worth the debt that I'll never pay off.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d166/kittyempire3/sun1285.jpg

46binder
01-04-2010, 08:21 PM
75,000 BTU Modine style forced air heater off propane, and a wood stove. Heater gets my shop up to 60 in about 10 minutes even when its 5 degrees outside. Don't keep it much warmer, using 40lb tanks and don't want to refill too much.

rockable
01-04-2010, 08:21 PM
A heat pump. It's warm in the winter and cool in the summer. :)

ONAROLL
01-04-2010, 08:22 PM
Yes. When I was working as an A&P, every man in the hanger had his own little bullet heater. When we needed fuel for one, we just popped the lid off the closest wing and pumped jet fuel into the heater's tank.


Thanks, we pull samples everyday and waste the stuff

flatford39
01-04-2010, 08:25 PM
I have a wood stove in mine. Last weekend was brutally cold. About 7 below Zero. The wood stove got it up to around 65. I have the shop heavily insulated but there are three garage doors that leak like a sieve.

Only problem with the wood stove is you can't paint when you are using it and you really need to dedicate yourself to finding fuel if you don't live in a wooded area.

RMR&C
01-04-2010, 08:31 PM
A really big wood stove......keeps it about 65 degrees......

I paint in my shop, so I put the stove outside.......no worries

redlinetoys
01-04-2010, 08:31 PM
In my attached and well insulated two car garage (with tall cathedral ceiling), I have found I can run two of the electric oil filled radiators (one on either side of the shop) on low power most of the winter.

It is warmer in there than in the house.

5F outside right now. Both heaters set on 600 watt setting each (600/900/1500 watt heaters). Thermostats on "3" each (1-10 settings). 70F in shop.

These things are about $39 a piece and are rated as safe to leave during the day per consumer reports and others.

Would love to have a small gas furnace, but this works for me and is pretty cheap to buy and cheap to run...

Spanish Fly
01-04-2010, 08:38 PM
rochester n.y i use radiant heat small 2x4 90,000 btu my shop is two car work very good.

Atomsplitter
01-04-2010, 08:41 PM
I use an 10 Kw (220v) electric mobile home furnace. It was free and it came with it's own ductwork that I reconfigured to better spread the heat in my 20'x20' insulated garage.
I work for an electric utility company up here in Canada and we get our electricity for free.

NINE INCH
01-04-2010, 08:46 PM
The Hot One. 220. home depot. works killer.

1963nova
01-04-2010, 08:54 PM
when I bought my house it had a square style natural gas heater in it that has the bricks that heat up and the natural flames , I took it out and installed it in my garage now all winter long here in ohio it stays 68 degrees all winter if I open up the big garage for any time I but it up a bit to catch back up but then turn it back down best heater I've ever had I can law on my concrete floor and never get cold then in the summer turn on my window 220 volt A/C and keep it about 55 to 60 degrees .

markjenks
01-04-2010, 08:58 PM
I have a forced air wood furnace in mine. But in the floor I have all the tubing installed for radiant heat all setup with the manifold and everything.

I just don't have the $ for a boiler at this time. So I filled the whole thing with antifreeze and tried to heat it with a hot-water heater. Doesn't even get it warm enough.

So, question for all of you. What about putting inline one of those pool heaters and get it to temp and then use the water heater to maintain it?

-Mark

craftscustoms
01-04-2010, 08:58 PM
What's a heater?

xxwelderxx
01-04-2010, 09:00 PM
As you can see in the picture my house sits above my garages. Well my oil furnace is in my garage and all the pipes running to the cast iron radiators run back and forth near my garage ceiling before going up throw the floor to my house. Well I must be lucky cause if the furnace has run its like 80 degrees in my garage. Its 15 degrees outside and I was in a tshirt and shorts in the garage. :D

first34ford
01-04-2010, 09:02 PM
I use a couple of 240V heaters just to keep it above freezing during the time I'm not in the shop. Got a woodstove for actual working temps. I can generally keep it around 70 with a small load a wood. Works good for keeping the coffee pot warm too.

rick goetz
01-04-2010, 09:02 PM
In the northern part of Wisconsin the gas companys have laid alot of gas main and are offering their gas service to many new customers who previously used oil or propane. Many propane furnaces are being replaced with new natural gas models. I got a 6 year old 60,000 btu propane furnace for my garage for free a couple of years ago. It's 8 degrees outside but in my garage it's 65. It's vented outside so I don't worry about gassing myself to death. The only worry I have is keeping the beer cold.

blojectedj
01-04-2010, 09:15 PM
Torpedo 125,000 btu and then shut down and use the a big wick type kerosene heater ,I just love how Kero is more money than Gasoline ,It aint right .....
My shop is 40 x40 concrete block with 12 foot walls and no insulation. I use a 125,000 btu torpedo fired by kerosene and here in Oklahoma kerosene is 4.69 a gallon, I dress very warmly and try to only heat the shop to 50 degrees.

austinsailor
01-04-2010, 09:16 PM
Got a "dual fuel" furnace, runs a heat pump until it gets to about 15 degrees, then switches to propane. Electric company gives you the electric at about 4 cents a kwh for it. But, they put a switch in it to block the heat pump at 15 degrees, forcing it to propane. They sell me electric cheap when nobody really needs it, cuts me off when the all-electric guys start sucking it down. But - ha! - got around that high dollar propane, I put in a wood furnace which will keep it at 55 when it's zero out, and stays out of the propane.

Bad thing, though, at 63, I finally retired the splitting maul and bought a gas powered wood splitter yesterday. Guess I'm now a weinie.

But - it's below zero outside now, and 55 in the shop!

big vic
01-04-2010, 09:20 PM
we have a hot dog,,, real nice unit,,,hags from the roof and runs on natural gass,,,, keeps the garage at 55 but the floor stays very cold

fab32
01-04-2010, 09:28 PM
Overhead natural gas furnace. 150,000BTU keeps my 40'X80'x14' at whatever temp I set the thermostat. I turn it down to 55 at night and 65-70 while I'm out there working in the winter. Turning it lower than 55 is false economy as I've got so many large pieces of equipment it takes too long for them to heat back up in the morning. three overhead fans keep the heat pushed down toward the floor.

Frank

blojectedj
01-04-2010, 09:28 PM
[QUOTE=austinsailor;4749616]
Bad thing, though, at 63, I finally retired the splitting maul and bought a gas powered wood splitter yesterday. Guess I'm now a weinie.

Well, unless you got a gas powered splitter that loads itself and picks up and stacks all that split wood by itself I wouldn't say your a weinie. Hell half the kids I know around here would freeze to death before they would put the already cut and split wood in the stove much less cut, split and stack it!!!

austinsailor
01-04-2010, 09:31 PM
[QUOTE=austinsailor;4749616]
Bad thing, though, at 63, I finally retired the splitting maul and bought a gas powered wood splitter yesterday. Guess I'm now a weinie.

Well, unless you got a gas powered splitter that loads itself and picks up and stacks all that split wood by itself I wouldn't say your a weinie. Hell half the kids I know around here would freeze to death before they would put the already cut and split wood in the stove much less cut, split and stack it!!!

Interesting you should say that. One reason I kept swinging that maul is I figured it was good exercise. I found out I work just as hard with the splitter, I just have 10 times as much wood when I quit.

ol'chevy
01-04-2010, 09:33 PM
Give the friends beer, then light farts.....

My uncle used to have a contraption made from 2 55 gal drums and burnt all the used motor oil. It would get so hot in the shop that the drums were glowing red and we would have to open the doors. All the cars in the junkyard had these neat little black soot filiments all over them.

NICKEYCHEVY60
01-04-2010, 09:34 PM
Gas forced air.It's @9 degrees outside & a balmy 70 inside. But it's not cheap.

malkintent
01-04-2010, 09:37 PM
i built a celing hot water heater with a pump , fan, and thermoustat, runs of the hot water heater in my house, without mixing water and glycol! just uses a 120 outlet

60 in my garage and its -10 out side

D-fens
01-04-2010, 09:40 PM
I have a two-burner radiant propane heater, garage is somewhat insulated except for the doors. It's pretty okay 90% of the time, but takes a while to warm the place up if it's below 30-ish outside.

Keep in mind it usually don't get that cold here. If you live in some almost uninhabitable part of the country like Minnesota or Wisconsin I don't wanna hear it.

067chevy
01-04-2010, 09:43 PM
Wood. its cheap and great heat.

von zipper
01-04-2010, 09:50 PM
Those 'trash cans' crank the heat...... then just a small flame keeps me warm!!!

dakanaka
01-04-2010, 10:00 PM
I have a thermopride oil furnace I got from a house...like new, and well maintained, the 275 gallon tank...I got both for 400 bucks....bought the exhaust pipe and a freind helped me install it......less than 600 bucks.....I froze my ass off for years using propane electric etc.this was the best investment I ve made aside from insulatin my shop.....wish I had done it sooner....you can get 'em cheap just watch craigslist when people remodel they upgrade....mines a 85000 btu and it keeps my 30x30 nice and toasty

krooser
01-04-2010, 10:02 PM
NG-fired radiant tube heater...toasty!

www.superiorradiant.com

wildearp
01-04-2010, 10:05 PM
Beer. Sometimes Gin.

bubba67
01-04-2010, 10:05 PM
65,000 btu natural gas Hot Dawg hangin from the cieling. 16 degrees outside, 70 inside.

bobj49f2
01-04-2010, 10:19 PM
Same here, gas fired radiant heat. I have two 20 foot long units in my shop, 2500 sq. ft. They were an upgrade when I had my shop built and glad I did it. You don't feel the heat like a forced air unit, it's just there. Also, no positive pressure in the shop when you open the doors, all of the heat doesn't rush out. They heat the objects in the room, and the floor, so the heat stays in.

http://www.fatfenderedtrucks.com/images/building02.jpg

chilimac
01-04-2010, 10:27 PM
dont want to steal a thread, but no sense in a new one, can I burn Jet-A fuel in my bullet forced air heater to heat my shop?
Better make sure the Jet A you get didn't have Prist added to it,that is some nasty crap.

Frank Jonkman
01-04-2010, 10:37 PM
Here in the frozen tundra that I call home, I use a 90,000 btu oil fired furnace to keep my 24 x 40 shop at 40. Over the holidays I installed a woodstove.....best thing ever, had it up to 80 on the weekend.
I don't spend a fortune on oil and wood is relatively cheap.
Only problem, it gets so warm I just want to sit and enjoy the fire now.
So now i will use the furnace to keep it at 40 and the woodstove for when I am working out there.
I'll have to agree, wood is a great source of heat.

Ralph
01-04-2010, 10:39 PM
24 x 26 well insulated shop, radiant heat by plastic tubing in the cement floor. 3000 watt element in a 10 gallon hot water heater. Keeps it at 65 degrees and a warm floor. Works great and doesnt cost much
Ralph

Zoo York
01-04-2010, 10:46 PM
I had a propane heater and ditched it because my shiny bridgeport and lathe decided to sweat and rust.Then I tried IR heat which is only good if you have it facing you sooo last month I picked up a wood/coal stove and put some coals before I go to work and before I go to bed and stays on 24/7. Nice and toasty, the mice love it..

dragdoc
01-04-2010, 10:47 PM
Also a "Hot Dawg" unit hung from ceiling. Walls and ceiling are insulated with taped drywall. May not be the most even heating but I keep the garage T-stat at 50 F and kick it up when I go out there. By the time I have a welding jacket and gloves on I'm sweating if the temp is over 60 F.

If you don't keep a reasonable constant temp the steel, tools etc. never heat up. I've often gone out for for just a little time at night to stare at stuff, measure, and plan my next move, and just keep the temp at 50.

ONAROLL
01-04-2010, 10:54 PM
Better make sure the Jet A you get didn't have Prist added to it,that is some nasty crap.


it does, are ya saying jet-A with prist will burn dirty?

Undercover Customs
01-05-2010, 12:06 AM
2 woodstoves in my 36 x 60 x14 shop. Work great as long as it's not below 20.

333 Half Evil
01-05-2010, 12:25 AM
I have an old fuel oil furnace from a house. Did a lot of research on the waste oil burner type furnaces and discovered they use the same pump but a differant nozzle than my furnace. They also have a filtration system. After researching a little more found that my nozzle is good up to a 15 weight oil. So I'm using a 50/50 mix of fuel oil and drain oils. I also bought 2 spin-on style filters from tractor supply, one for hydraulic and one fuel/water seperator, and installed them inline between my tank and my furnace. So far I've used 4 gallons of used transmission oil and about 10 gallons of waste oil. I had roughly 15 gallons of fuel oil still in my tank when I poured the trans fluid and waste oil in. I keep my shop 50 when I'm not in it and 65-70 when I am in it, and use about 10-12 gallons a month.

Undercover Customs
01-05-2010, 12:32 AM
I have an old fuel oil furnace from a house. Did a lot of research on the waste oil burner type furnaces and discovered they use the same pump but a differant nozzle than my furnace. They also have a filtration system. After researching a little more found that my nozzle is good up to a 15 weight oil. So I'm using a 50/50 mix of fuel oil and drain oils. I also bought 2 spin-on style filters from tractor supply, one for hydraulic and one fuel/water seperator, and installed them inline between my tank and my furnace. So far I've used 4 gallons of used transmission oil and about 10 gallons of waste oil. I had roughly 15 gallons of fuel oil still in my tank when I poured the trans fluid and waste oil in. I keep my shop 50 when I'm not in it and 65-70 when I am in it, and use about 10-12 gallons a month.

This sounds like the ticket. Now throw some WVO in there and it will have an interesting smell to it.:eek:

Halfdozen
01-05-2010, 12:54 AM
Also a "Hot Dawg" unit hung from ceiling. Walls and ceiling are insulated with taped drywall. May not be the most even heating but I keep the garage T-stat at 50 F and kick it up when I go out there. By the time I have a welding jacket and gloves on I'm sweating if the temp is over 60 F.

If you don't keep a reasonable constant temp the steel, tools etc. never heat up. I've often gone out for for just a little time at night to stare at stuff, measure, and plan my next move, and just keep the temp at 50.
Pretty much my routine too. Also have a "Hot Dawg", made by Modine, 45,000 BTU in a 22 x 24 shop.

32ratsass
01-05-2010, 01:18 AM
30ft x 40ft shop w/14 foot ceiling, well insulated. Using single, natural gas, 100,000 btu Reznor overhead radiant with single 30ft tube. Fast warmup time and stays really nice (65-70deg) @ -30F.

5Wcoupe
01-05-2010, 01:47 AM
I use this Q-mark electric garage heater:
http://www.heater-home.com/product/MUH35.aspx
Had one in an un-insulated 2 car garage in N.Y. years ago and I could work in a t shirt in the middle of winter. Bought another for my garage in SoCal. and it keeps it nice and warm and dry. Probably a very safe choice for garage too (no flame).
Only down side is probably not the cheapest if you set the thermostat way up.

Diavolo
01-05-2010, 03:14 AM
Got one a lot like this. I try not to go in there if I don't have to, but this will heat a 2 car garage up to 70 in about 5 minutes.

Propane "Trash Can"
200,000 Btu's, a little noisy, but better than freezing...
http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/173608_lg.gif

Von Rigg Fink
01-05-2010, 05:22 AM
I use a combination of
Wood Burner ...I converted a 250 gallon oil drum to a wood burning stove.
Propane dual Sun Burst heater
and 2 space heaters.
for start up on a very cold day i fire them all up. and switch on 2 fans to move the heat around.
Works great! very soon from 20 degrees to 55 and ready to work in.
once it hits 55 i shut off the propane, and throttle back the wood stove. I leave the space heaters on to help with cold tools.
was in the Teens this week and I've been out sandblasting in my new cabinet wearing a shirt. I keep it between 55 and 60. Im too old to be cold. bones and hands get to hurting, screw that.

lostforawhile
01-05-2010, 05:57 AM
my garage is a hundred years old with a tin roof and no insulation, impossible to heat up. I don't even have heat in my house, we are sleeping in the living room in front of the kerosene heater half froze to death.

bbc 1957 gasser
01-05-2010, 06:11 AM
i put i radiant heater in my paint room

in my work side i have a down draft furnace out of a mobile home
and also a wood burner

i let the furnace keep the shop at 60 all the time then if im out there all day or week end i fire up the wood

thinking about putting in a radiant in the work side as well .
body filler dust is hard on them blower motors .:rolleyes:

onlychevrolets
01-05-2010, 06:18 AM
Home made wood burning stove .....torpedo gets it warm fast and the wood stove keeps it warm....14 foot ceiling so it takes a while to heat up.

Mat Thrasher
01-05-2010, 06:20 AM
I work in my attached garage. Natural gas radiant floor heating same as in my house. If you're building a new shop the only way to go.

Andamo
01-05-2010, 06:24 AM
Originally I had a 30,000 BTU unvented gas heater in my 24 x 36 basically uninsulated garage. But after 4 years of all the moisture it puts out, plus a smell we couldn't track down, I had a 60,000 BTU Reznor overhead heater installed. I would have installed it myself, but I had back problems at the time. I just keep the thermostat at 50 and that keeps the snow and ice melted off the cars and then I'll set it up to 65 and within 20 minutes, it's nice and toasty.

440shawn
01-05-2010, 06:27 AM
Torpedo heater and a wood burning stove

Truckedup
01-05-2010, 06:54 AM
Western NY state,32x32 shop,insulated,9 foot sheet rock ceiling,one overhead door,45,000 BTU natural gas ceiling mount unit heater.heats it just fine.
Whatever you use for heat,do make sure the flame or potential spark producing parts are at least 18 inches off the floor.Vapors,especially gasoline from parked vehicles gather at floor level.This is electrical code for commercial garages and should be followed for your residential garage if your work on stuff.
If you use a wood stove be real careful and don't tell your insurance company:D

1950ChevySuburban
01-05-2010, 07:00 AM
IF I had a shop, it'd have radiant floor heat from a solar water panel. Garage Journal has lots of info on shop heating.

Swedesled66
01-05-2010, 07:19 AM
I crawl under my truck with a couple of 500 watt halogen floodlights to get warm, other than that I freeze and wait till I get to the pub to defrost.

Streetwerkz
01-05-2010, 07:29 AM
this lil 1.5 million BTU fellow:)

Candy-Man
01-05-2010, 07:36 AM
Forced air, oil. I have a 30' X 52' shop well insulated with 9' ceilings. I use approximately $5.00 of oil/per day keeping the shop at 50 while it is just above zero outside. A new oil tank was donated and the used furnace cost me a couple hundred dollars.....

Truckedup: Exactly what he just explained about the safety aspect......

RAY With
01-05-2010, 07:38 AM
I have a Big Dog 175,000 BTU propane hanging heater that will make you sweat in 0 temp outside weather. Keeps my shop at any temp you want. I couldnt do without it.

Heckler
01-05-2010, 07:39 AM
I live in Austin, so keep that in mind......

For years I had a small space heater in all 4 corners of my garage. Worked ok, but didn't cut it on the really cold days. Recently I installed a 24,000 btu window unit through the wall. Works AWESOME. AC and heat pump.

bobkatrods
01-05-2010, 07:42 AM
:confused:I have a Big Dog 175,000 BTU propane hanging heater that will make you sweat in 0 temp outside weather. Keeps my shop at any temp you want. I couldnt do without it.

MONTGOMERY TEXAS 0 TEMP OUTSIDE???

John "Gunner" Gunnell
01-05-2010, 07:47 AM
I use a propane radiant heating system. It heats good but we have had problems with it blackening the outside of the building slighty. I'm told that this should ne be a problem with propane but it is. The unit has been taken apart and serviced several times and the problem was never totally cured.

The install vented the system to the unheated rear section of my building where 8 cars and 13 cycles are stored and I think this is the problem. If you ask me it should be vented to the outside, probably through the metal off. The installer said "not necessary," but I still think that is how it should have been done.

The problem is not real bad anymore after a few tweaks, but I still think the install was done sloppily.

I did post an album with shots of the place, as well as other gasrages I visit.

Gunner

bobkatrods
01-05-2010, 07:47 AM
my shop is 40 x40 concrete block with 12 foot walls and no insulation. I use a 125,000 btu torpedo fired by kerosene and here in oklahoma kerosene is 4.69 a gallon, i dress very warmly and try to only heat the shop to 50 degrees.

know what you mean about the price of kero, i started mixing mine with diesel 50/50 worked fine and this year found a 175000 btu that runs on diesel 2.50 gallon. Found it on craiglist:)

kookee
01-05-2010, 07:48 AM
My garage was originally a house! So I have a gas furnace. Turn the thermostat to 60 or so and go back in the house for 10 minutes and all is ready to go.

MichiganJames
01-05-2010, 08:49 AM
24x24 garage thats well insulated. I use a 75,000 torpedo heater drinking diesel with a thermostat set for 70. But the floor still stays super cold. Can always see my breath when i get on the creeper. I wish I had heated floors.Still need to insluate the doors tho to help a bit more.

allengator
01-05-2010, 09:12 AM
125000 BTU... on sale at Northern Tool!

mgermca
01-05-2010, 10:26 AM
Somehow I knew when I clicked on this that it would be a hot topic :)

Oil fired furnace that was in the shop when I bought the place 17 years ago. 900 sq ft shop, insulated so-so. Biggest heat leak is the roll up door.

I leave it at around 50 degrees to save the lathe and Bridgeprt and when I go out there I just crank it up and it's tolerable in about 20 minutes.

Only thing for sure is that a cold shop = not much work getting done!

Too old to work in the cold now...ha!

72Mountaineer
01-05-2010, 10:35 AM
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/burl100/floorheatsystem.jpg

carbking
01-05-2010, 10:36 AM
Permanent individual electric space heaters, built into walls. Heaters have fans and thermostats.

No sparks.

Turn on heaters an hour before I want to work.

No fuss, no mess, and least expensive form of heat in our area.

Jon.

Hyway Hauler
01-05-2010, 10:43 AM
Good old wood stove...any other heat source (gas, propane, radiant, etc...) is just pure laziness!

angeli rebeli
01-05-2010, 10:53 AM
propane radiant heater 90000 btu sits on the floor and cranks out lots of heat, 100lb tank lasts most of a winter in WI, lots and lots on insulation and a ceiling fan helps to

Shifter
01-05-2010, 11:30 AM
In floor radiant heat.

1 foot in the grave
01-05-2010, 11:33 AM
our shop is 6500 square feet with aircraft hanger style ceilings that leak and no insulation. Heating it with the wood stove is hopeless. Especially now that the temps are down to 0 degrees and lower.

66Coronet440
01-05-2010, 11:39 AM
I no longer have my shop, but I used to use a dual fuel torpedo that would heat 850 sq./ft. I don't remember what the BTU's were off hand. Said shop was a detached 2-car garage.

blojectedj
01-05-2010, 11:42 AM
know what you mean about the price of kero, i started mixing mine with diesel 50/50 worked fine and this year found a 175000 btu that runs on diesel 2.50 gallon. Found it on craiglist:)
I have thought about mixing diesel with the kero, would help some with the price. I would love to have a used oil heater as I have lots of used oil but they are pretty expensive.

Stefan T
01-05-2010, 11:49 AM
I use a 5 kw elcetric heating fan in a approx 90 m big shop

5window
01-05-2010, 11:50 AM
I use a wood stove. Works great-I have 6" of fiberglas all around, but it takes a while to warm up so I have to plan ahead to work out in the shop and I have to be even more careful than usual with flammable stuff.

I'd love to add a set up to drip in and burn waste oil-anybody have a good,home-built set-up?

pwschuh
01-05-2010, 12:07 PM
My two car garage is on the smallish side (22 x24) and it has a six foot deep grease pit. Walls and ceiling are well insulated. Doors are supposed to be insulated but still leak a lot of heat. When I'm out there working, I use a small, ceiling mounted radiant heater that takes the chill off but never really warms the place up if it's below freezing outside. If it's really cold I will turn it on several hours before I want to go out. Also use a oil-filled radiator to just keep the garage from freezing when I'm not in it. Don't have any space for anything on the floor like a real stove or furnace. Obviously the pit is always cold, no matter what's on.

czuch
01-05-2010, 03:24 PM
By 8 am its warm enough to take off the flannell. Kinda mind warping that in 4 months the temp will go up another 30/40 degrees.
Its 72 now according to the weather channel.

willburton7
01-05-2010, 03:39 PM
A small wood stove, and the rest of the Heat is in the TOOLS!!! the more you do the warmer it gets.

53sled
01-05-2010, 03:44 PM
Ceiling mounted natural gas and awesome insulation in the walls, ceiling keep it from freezing.

51 Leadsled
01-05-2010, 03:49 PM
Same here, gas fired radiant heat. I have two 20 foot long units in my shop, 2500 sq. ft. They were an upgrade when I had my shop built and glad I did it. You don't feel the heat like a forced air unit, it's just there. Also, no positive pressure in the shop when you open the doors, all of the heat doesn't rush out. They heat the objects in the room, and the floor, so the heat stays in.

http://www.fatfenderedtrucks.com/images/building02.jpg

My A/C guy was talking about this type of unit. He said it more expensive but cheaper to run. And since it heats ups ojects in the shop the heat does not rush out when the doors open. Is that true?

No Cents
01-05-2010, 03:55 PM
I use kerosene salamander/torpedo type heaters to heat a three car unattached garage. It will keep it nice and toasty even down to single digit temps. Good clear kerosene is right at $5.00 a gallon. You can use fuel oil or diesel in it also which is a lot cheaper but.... It gets awfully fumy with diesel . The good kerosene is worth the money no fumes at all.

1934coupe
01-05-2010, 03:56 PM
I use a infra red radient heater 30' tube propane. I have had ALL OF THE ABOVE at one time or another. Now at age 60 it's finally my reward. NO fumes, NO air blowing around NO maintinence, NO splitting, stacking or carrying wood. It warms up everything it touches to the temp its set at. My building is 2400 sq.ft. w/14' eaves steel bldg. insulated and I keep it at 42 degrees when I am not in it and turn it up to 60 when I am. I go through about 300 gals per year. It may be a little expensive but in the long run no more than the other devises. Plus if you save money and die the next day do you take it with you.

Pat

CoolHand
01-05-2010, 05:20 PM
Fifteen years ago, we just used two giant jet engine looking space heaters. Big bastards, ran on diesel, but they'd run you out with fumes if you weren't careful. When diesel went above a dollar a gallon, we started using them less and looking for something else.

Then about ten years ago, we put in a bigass forced air propane heater that hangs from the ceiling. I want to say it's like 1.5M BTU, but that could be wrong. I know it would empty a thousand gallon tank in less than a month if you ran it every day (with the T-Stat set around 65 degs F). When propane finally went above a dollar fifty a gallon four or five years ago, we started looking for a cheaper solution again.

We saved parts and scrounged and finally, two or three years ago, we put in a commercial air handler with two (2) 25 kW heating elements in it. With electricity at around $0.11 kW Hr, it's a lot cheaper to use electric than propane.

We've got a pretty big shop, 3,750 sq ft, with 16 ft eaves, so there's a lot of air in there to heat. It's got good insulation though, so that helps, but the one wall has two 16' x 14' roll up doors in it, and they leak air and heat like a sieve.

It's ~4 degs F outside right now, and the t-stat is set for 57 degs F. The heater kicks on every fifteen or twenty minutes and runs for ten or fifteen minutes.

I hope that the rest of Jan and Feb aren't this damned cold.

Global Warming my hairy white buttocks!

powdercoater46
01-05-2010, 07:41 PM
My son and I built a new 28X48 garage last fall; buried 1000 " of pex tubing in the concrete. Use a 50 gallon hot water heater and circulating pump connected to a thermostat. The floor stays 67 degrees. And so does the garage.

tom brown
01-05-2010, 08:14 PM
dress is several layers-pick up some good military long johns.etc. put the cold out of your mind-once your into your project the love of the craft will override the cold.
caution to all using open flame heat-what the fumes, ventalition wash your old oil soaked clothes. trust me - you can good poof!

slik
01-05-2010, 08:26 PM
same here. just put on the layers and a couple 500 watt halogen lamps. once i get working, i dont think about the cold.

Lucky3
01-05-2010, 08:32 PM
High Effeciency Radiant Heat on Natural Gas.
Absorbs 90+ BTU's generated.

Looks like a long tube that extends the length of your shop. Looks just like the one in the picture on the post above of 51LedSled.

Very energy effecient.

I've had all kinds of forced air heat units and these radiant heaters use less than half the gas the forced air units do and don't blow dust and dirt all over everything.

I'm in Okla and the temp is in 20's......

chilimac
01-05-2010, 08:43 PM
it does, are ya saying jet-A with prist will burn dirty?
Prist isn't the healthiest stuff to breathe.I have used Jet A before and had better results with K1.I thought K1 burned hotter and cleaner than Jet A. The difference was pretty noticeable.Read the MSDS sheet on Prist and decide for yourself if you want to use it.

terry k
01-05-2010, 09:03 PM
When I built my garage,I put in a ton of insulation,then drywall. I had a rooftop furnace/air unit placed next to the garage. It draws the air in from the garage heats/cools it in a air handler and blows it back into the building.This way there is no open flame to cause an explotion from gas,paint or other chemicals.Ductwork all goes thur the attic. Love it !!!

51 Leadsled
01-06-2010, 09:28 AM
I love the idea of radiant heat, maybe next garage! I am getting quotes on a couble of different systems. The feedback had been great! Any other info is welcome, if I need info on cooling the garage I guess the left coast can chime in LOL!

The Rabid Whippet
01-06-2010, 11:07 AM
I have a 40X42 X 30ft high barn that I insulated. I heat it at first with a 375,000 btu propane heater. Within about 5 minutes , it gets nice and warm and then use two smaller propane heaters to keep it at temperature. My Shop I have a 45,000 natural gas Resnor heater. It is 24X36 and fully insulated. Once it gets to temp, the heater only cycles on every 40 minutes or so. I HATE THE COLD!!!
My wife keeps the house at about 60 degrees and says wear a jacket if your cold . I am still cold and she says, wheres your hat? WTF? I go into my garage and crank it to 70!!!

J&JHotrods
01-06-2010, 11:41 AM
My garage is 21'x27'. I almost got a dayton wall/ceiling mount, but didn't like the idea of drying my eyeballs out while my legs and feet are still 20 degrees colder.
This is what I use and I'm pretty happy with it, esp. for the price. I keep it mounted to the ceiling during the rest of the year. I like this one because it can be used on the floor, where it's the coldest. But since there is no temperature lately(supposed to be below zero for the next few days), it takes a while to get the shop up to a reasonable temp.
Either way, a good heater for the $$. Found it at car guy garage.com for around $240.

Dooley
01-06-2010, 12:14 PM
I've got the wall hung Dayton, here in Buffalo it has been in the teens, Mostly insualted 500 square foot garage, not used everyday, but it will get it so I can work with a sweatshirt pretty quick at these temps. I have 2 electric fans that I use to move the air off of the ceiling to the floor to help circulate the heat.

glmarkie
01-06-2010, 12:30 PM
I have a 26 x 32 ft shop with a 10ft walls and 20 ft ceiling. Ran r-38 insulation in ceiling and r-13 in walls. Ran a 70000btu house furnace upstairs with heat ducts run down to the floor like a house. Works terrific. Unit is quiet and floor is warm here in Wisconsin. I also run two ceiling fans. I ran the gas from the house and the budget gas bill has not changed. I leave it at 50 degrees when I'm not using the shop and at that temp the furnace rarely if ever runs. When I'm working I set it at 65 and it still hardly turns on. I think the key was running the ducts to the floors and using the ceiling fans.This system is alot quieter,safer and efficient than running the old reznor hanging furnaces as well as the propane floor units. The Menards down here handles all the piping. Good luck.

sir
01-06-2010, 12:32 PM
I just keep throwing it in....

swampratxxx
01-06-2010, 12:56 PM
Usually a long sleeve T-shirt will do but sometimes a sweatshirt is required.

hrm2k
01-06-2010, 08:29 PM
we ran out of heating oil today. This was taken around 5 this afternoon.And we still worked for another 3 hours
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii296/formspimp/temp.jpg

bobkatrods
01-06-2010, 09:08 PM
we ran out of heating oil today. This was taken around 5 this afternoon.and we still worked for another 3 hours
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii296/formspimp/temp.jpg

i think there is something wrong with your thermometer it looks like 37 degrees, that is a shitty outside temp let alone in the shop.
I think mine says 73, more like it:)

Home Brew
01-06-2010, 10:10 PM
I have a Dayton ceiling mount in my 24 x 36 shop. It has R19 and R38 insulation.It stays above freezing wiyhout heat and goes to 65 in a couple hours. A long sleeve shirt makes it comfortable even on the floor. Yesterday it was 4 degrees and was alright in the shop.

UA_HoBo
01-06-2010, 10:56 PM
we use a Black Gold waste oil furnace i get used oil from the town garage/ race cars/ friends and where ever. We poor the used oil in 55 gal drums w/ a filter piped in about an inch up from the bottom, there is i nipple w/ a valve on the bottom to drain water out, then we trsnsfer the filtered oil to our fuel tanks. Doing it this way i have changed the filter on our furnace once in 5 years. and its free heat minus your work.

wahoo54
01-06-2010, 11:19 PM
I bought a used gas heater for a house, 150,000 BTu and converted it to propane. Heats a 30' X 50' insulated shop real good but the cost of propane is crazy so I only turn it on when I'm going to be out there for a while. Learned to just set it on 60 deg F. and save a heck of a lot on the propane.

FinnishFireball
01-07-2010, 02:36 AM
I have a heated floor, when we poured the floor concrete, we installed electric heating cables in there. Cold floors are total killer for my ruined back. It's -24 F today so the heating is needed...

outlaw256
01-07-2010, 05:17 AM
i was using 150,000 and 55,000 btu kerosene jet heaters but with that stuff at almost 4.oo a gal. and using almost 10. gals. a day went to used hired hand heater (from a old chicken house) this winter.250,000 btu heats up the shop to 70 in about 15 min.48 x 60 ceiling insulation only and 3 pull up doors.thats when it was 20 outside. after spittin chicken feather out for the first hours use it works great. and its QUIET!!!

hrm2k
01-07-2010, 06:38 AM
i think there is something wrong with your thermometer it looks like 37 degrees, that is a shitty outside temp let alone in the shop.
I think mine says 73, more like it:)


The thermometer was correct. It actually got down to 33......that is when we left :(........come on Saturday !!.........heating oil delivery :)

Moonglow2
01-07-2010, 08:08 AM
My shop is small but it has a natural gas outlet. A visit to a local flea market turned up a 1950s gas heater for $12. Gets it toasty in no time.

bobkatrods
01-07-2010, 09:09 AM
the thermometer was correct. It actually got down to 33......that is when we left :(........come on saturday !!.........heating oil delivery :)

man that takes all the fun out of working in the shop, reminds me why i moved 31 yrs ago:)

fiddysixF
01-07-2010, 09:29 AM
24 x 26 well insulated shop, radiant heat by plastic tubing in the cement floor. 3000 watt element in a 10 gallon hot water heater. Keeps it at 65 degrees and a warm floor. Works great and doesnt cost much
Ralph

This is EXACTLY what I had hoped to do in my garage. Went with a 65K hanging LP unit instead. Been kicking myself in the ass over it ever since.

Screws
01-07-2010, 09:58 AM
In my 'rented' space we have a Dayton gas heater that hangs from the 20' ceiling.

We figured out a 'trick' that might work for some of you in the same type of heating and space situation. After about 30 minutes, the ceiling level down to about 10' is plenty warm (we have a storage area that is at that level and it's very nice up there on a 30 degree day). We took 2 fans and directed them to blow upward from the floor. This convects that warm air at the ceiling down to the floor level and makes life a bit more tolerable and helps to keep heating costs down. Ceiling fans and hanging fans pointing downward would probably also do the trick.

-Screws

STRCOMP
01-07-2010, 10:33 AM
Wood stove & a lot of hot air!

28 chevy
01-07-2010, 10:37 AM
I have a hang on the wall ventless propane heater and a 100# tank in the shop. just a salamander up in the garage to heat it up then a small propane heater to keep it warm plus well insulated


Ditto.
My brother in law heats his with geo-thermal, hot water in the floor.
works great for him

Gigantor
01-07-2010, 10:52 AM
I got this neat old "wickless" kerosene stove with a manufacturing stamp of 1933. I rebuilt it all and found replacement rolls of non-asbestos wicks online. Took a little finagling to figure out, but managed to get it running good. It vents through a stove pipe and has a gravity fed tank. It was 10 below the other day and I had it to 45 in the garage in about 15 minutes. It's old as shit and scary as even once you turn off the fuel flow, it still takes a good 5-10 minutes to burn off what's left, but when has old machinery ever scared us off? Best part it was free. Of course, when the hell did kerosene become so damn expensive?

Rust Junkie
01-07-2010, 11:06 AM
Heater? I just put some coveralls on. And if it's still too cold, I throw on the nudie flix on the TV.
ahhhhh, California

n1gzd
01-07-2010, 12:37 PM
I use portable propane blower type heater (175,000 btu if you use two 40lb propane bottles together). I only use one, so I don't know how much less heat I get. It is noisy but it works pretty well. My building is pretty drafty so I don't worry about exhaust. You don't smell it much but if you work this way all day you will get sore throat so I try not work more than 1/2 with it running.
Rebecca

Probesport
01-07-2010, 01:12 PM
I use a furnace, regular old house furnace (small one, like for manufactured house) and I just build a single plenum on top and it just blows into the shop, no other ductwork.

My garage is detached and is concrete block so I had a few things to overcome, like digging a 30' long trench for the gas line, drilling through the block and of course teh roof stack but it was well worth it.

I used tank top radiants in the past, and have a natural gas radiant I may hook up as well if I feel i need it but this furnace brings my garage up to 50 in short order. I don't keep it running all the time, and I need to insulate garage door and ceiling. I flip it on, go inside and get ready to work by the time I am back out its more than enjoyable.

Here is an old pic, you can see it in the corner, without the plenum on it.

http://oarenj.com/modela/IMAG0303.jpg

greasemonkey060
01-07-2010, 01:24 PM
Long johns and flannel. Same heater as my truck!

MarkzRodz
01-07-2010, 01:28 PM
11 degrees this evening,,seldom does it get this cold.
Global warming = $ Hoax.
Anyway,,too cold to work in the shop so I work in my home 2 car garage using an upright propane tank with heater on top.
Doing brakes and heater core change out and a brake light switch then beer management.

Probesport
01-11-2010, 07:15 AM
Took a better pic while I was out there this weekend. Plain & simple forced air, one plenum heats up plenty well.

http://oarenj.com/modela/11010/P1320212.JPG

D-fens
01-11-2010, 07:55 AM
So how do those floor-heat systems work? Just a closed system with a water heater and a pump? Do you have to leave it on all the time (in winter anyway) to keep it from freezing?

Google searching didn't turn up much besides gibberish and sale pitches. No real explaination of how the shit works or how you install it.

sixtnut
01-11-2010, 08:06 AM
Reznor ceiling gas heater. I don't know the BTU but it does an excellent job. I paid $30.00 for it 2 years ago.

( garage under remodel, installing a 4 post lift )

motorcity
01-24-2010, 07:04 AM
I am thinking about putting radiant heat in my detached four car garage in addition to a wood burning stove.

Any suggestions on brands of tube heaters and btu?

powdercoater46
01-24-2010, 07:35 AM
We filled the tubing and heater with 50% antifreeze just in case the power is out for several days. you MUST start it up before cold weather and keep it on all winter to keep the concrete warm. Just keep in mind you are heating very cold concrete otherwise and it just can't recover in a few hours....it could take a few days to get the heat you need.

hiboy
01-24-2010, 07:57 AM
Installed my $17 Montgomery Ward gas heater yesterday. Think it was about 60 degrees outside.

Slick's Garage
01-24-2010, 08:28 AM
Heater? We don't need no stinkin heaters.......... ha, ha, ha, ha......

It did get down to 48 last night.

Ah......... Phoenix. In the summer, I just jump into the swimming pool. Cools me off for an hour, and then I just jump right back in.

bobj49f2
01-24-2010, 10:17 AM
I am thinking about putting radiant heat in my detached four car garage in addition to a wood burning stove.

Any suggestions on brands of tube heaters and btu?

I have Dayton units in my shop. They work great. I have two 20' units but only use one to heat my 2500 shop, even on the coldest days. My shop is very well insulated also.

The one down side of tube heaters, as opposed to forced air units, is it takes a little longer to heat the shop. I have electronic controllers I bought from the local big box store for around $30-35. I have them set for different times of the day. The heaters idle at night at 50, a half hour before start time they go up to 60 but go back down to 50 at start time. I do this because I want to take the edge off and it doesn't take as long to warm up the shop when I come in in the morning. I work away from my shop a lot of times and I don't want the shop heated when no one is there so that is why I have it set to back down to 50. When I do work in the shop I turn up the heat to 65. The controller is set to drop back down to 50 at quitting time but if I work past quitting time, which I normally do, I goose it back up to 65. I have it set to turn back down two hours later and then two hours after that. Before I had the electronic controllers I'd forget to turn the heater down before I left for the night and come into a nice warm shop in the morning. I was nice to have a nice warm shop in the morning but knowing $$$ was blowing out the vent wasn't.

bobbyb
01-24-2010, 11:22 AM
electric wall mounted heater with blower. One car garage and works fine...very well insulated though...Ohio. I run it up to about 65/70 when I am in there working and keep it at 40 when not in there. (I like to work in my shirt sleeves)

50mercfan
01-24-2010, 11:37 AM
dayton G30. 5000 watt electric. 220v. looks small, but will run you out of my 30X30. No fuel, no logs, no mess. it also has a thermostat.

WZ JUNK
01-24-2010, 11:38 AM
Propane has been expensive but I have a cheap source of firewood. I wanted an outside wood furnace for safety reasons and I have always liked hot water heat. I built an outside furnace for heating water out of a Shrader Wood stove that was given to me. Last year I built the first generation model. I used a cast iron radiator, that many of you have seen in use in older buildings with hot water heat, for my heating coil inside the firebox of the stove. Inside the shop I used a car radiator and a large squirrel cage fan off of a gas furnace. This system worked okay but it used a lot of wood and took a lot of my time keeping it going.

This year I added an external water jacket by fabricating 7 shallow tanks that surround the furnace. The water circulates through the tanks and then into the fire box through the cast iron coil and then into the shop. I use a Bell and Gosset recirculating pump that is normally used for a hot water circulating system in a house. The new heat exchanger inside is a coil off of a commercial freezer. I bought it from a junk man (no relation) for $20 and it included the fans. The water side of the system is vented to the atmosphere and does not build pressure. There is a heat and pressure relief valve that will dump the water to a storage tank if there is a problem. Once I set the system up I built an insulated box around the unit. The insulation came from dumpster diving at a construction site where they were reroofing a flat roof building. Eventually I plan to surround the whole thing with a metal box. In addition I am going to build a back up power supply system using a 12 volt car battery and a convertor to power the system should I lose regular electrical power. This will run the system until it cools down.

To operate the system you build a fire in the wood stove. The stove has a forced draft that is controlled by the temperature of the water. When the water temperature is less that 155 degrees F the fan is on and when the temperature rises above 165 degrees it shuts off. I found this temperature to work best for me. Inside there is a thermostat that controls the fan motors on the heat exchanger. You set the temperature you want the shop to be just like you do your thermostat in your house.

I was pleasantly surprised at how much better it works this year. Originally I had to be careful not to make to large a fire as I can easily overheat the water.

In addition to the wood I also burn waste oil in this system. I get some heat from burning the oil and I get rid of my oil. I am going to do some more work on this system. It is the round tank just above the front of the furnace. The oil is metered in through a needle valve and drips on a large steel plate in the top of the firebox.

I will continue to modify and improve this system. I am open to any suggestions for improvements and I will answer any questions you may have.

John

50mercfan
01-24-2010, 11:40 AM
I also have two ceiling fans that help alot.

atotalnincompoop
01-24-2010, 11:41 AM
almost new hanging gas unit from the habitat for humanity restore for $100:D
http://i45.tinypic.com/mhww9y.jpg

Tinbasher
01-24-2010, 02:32 PM
The Radiant heat in the floor works great. One shop I was in ,24,000 sq/ft. used it. Used a Gas fired boiler. Cost was good considering the size of the shop. Working on the floor was pleasure and the cars dried up quickly. I always thought I would be good Idea to heat the Anti-freeze with solar collectors.

The Old Tinbasher