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dgang26
12-07-2009, 06:04 PM
Really hated to see the "Cool Pictures" thread closed.
With a thread that large there certainly was some off topic stuff -- but damn -- to just shut down probably the BEST thread on this board -- not cool at all

Any other thoughts on this ?

RT Spartan
12-07-2009, 06:09 PM
I agree, I looked forward to seeing all the "cool pictures" in the thread. Do we have to start all over?

dgang26
12-07-2009, 06:12 PM
I guess we will have to just start over.
Really do not understand the reasoning behind it -- not cool

Nads
12-07-2009, 06:13 PM
Bummed, majorly, but some folks have no idea what 'cool' is.

jmh
12-07-2009, 06:14 PM
That was the first site I checked every time I logged on!:(:( John

billy zz
12-07-2009, 06:16 PM
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l272/billhedges/hotrodgirl.jpg

junk fiend
12-07-2009, 06:16 PM
NO!!! is it really closed, man i looked at pictures on there every day:(:mad:.

why? to much OT stuff?

J Man
12-07-2009, 06:17 PM
you could always ask Ryan or another mod why it was closed.

Harms Way
12-07-2009, 06:17 PM
It's not the first time it was closed, but the moderators were tired of trying to keep it on track,... and way to many OT pictures showed up on a regular basis,... I really hated to see it closed again as well, but cant blame them,... they told everyone time and time again about staying on topic,... then a couple posts later it all started again,.....

I agree it is really sad to see it go, but you can't say we weren't warned. some people just cant (or wont) follow the guidelines.

NHBandit
12-07-2009, 06:18 PM
At the risk of being reprimanded for being a new guy & questioning what the powers that be have done.. it kinda reminds me of being back in gradeschool when the teacher can't get anyone to fess up to doing something stupid so she keeps everyone after school... Except in this case they know exactly who the offenders were. I don't get it either but I'm just a guest in their house and they make the rules.

james1savage
12-07-2009, 06:20 PM
I just started another one. Please feel free to contribute!

Ratfink749
12-07-2009, 06:22 PM
RIP Cool Pictures thread. You will be missed. We will be sad. And to whomever posted the O/T posts that got it shut down: YOU SUCK! (I'll try to keep what I'm really thinking to myself...)

RichG
12-07-2009, 06:22 PM
"Another 22 Off Topic/Replies to O/T, and Drama posts deleted off this Thread..."

Last post by metalshapes on that thread.

I'd imagine that trying to manage 85,000+ members would be more difficult than you'd think, far simpler to simply close the offending thread.

dgang26
12-07-2009, 06:22 PM
A new "Cool Pictures" thread was just started up again
Lets support it and get some really good cool old hot rod / custom pictures going again
That thread was my absolute favorite on the HAMB

freebird101
12-07-2009, 06:22 PM
thats a bummer

dgang26
12-07-2009, 06:24 PM
Well -- it is their board and they can close it if they want -- but damn that was such a fine thread with so many way cool pictures -- just loved it !
I hope we can get it (or the new one) going again

2many projects
12-07-2009, 06:47 PM
Sniff, sob.
I'm going to miss it.
Cool pictures was the first thread I looked at every morning when I woke up and was my primary source of entertainment on the HAMB.
Thank you Dog and every one else that participated.
We have to accept it's death I guess.

40 & 61 Fords
12-07-2009, 06:52 PM
Maybe a guideline of what the thread is intended to show would help. Then a repost of that guideline every 50 pages or so may help. I know it wasn't intended for planes, trains, tractors, motorcycles, bicycles, naked women, or farm animals. Theres a great thread for Drag cars, so might as well leave those off too!

hotrodladycrusr
12-07-2009, 07:13 PM
I am angry:mad: this stinks.... of course there were a few of topic ones but, what right do they have to close one of the biggest threads...well I have ranted enough

What "right"?? I can't fucking beleive you even typed that.

Maybe a guideline of what the thread is intended to show would help. !

A guideline?? What part of tradtional hot rod and customs don't you understand??

No wonder it got closed :rolleyes:

hellisterrodder
12-07-2009, 07:37 PM
You said cool pictures post them. Maybe the topic will be more specific. Too many monerators and friends of Those that have too much power on this web site. I watch time and time again new people coming on and post a innocent question only to be told off by a senior member or monitor because they didn't use the search button. Slot of biased opinions if you ask me. It was wrong to closed the thread but it was also wrong to ban the guy for just simply posting a innocent funny picture. The guy should have been givin a warning that the pic will be deleted or somthing but not completly banned. It just makes me feel uncomfortable. I wasn't offened by his pic and I don't think it was a big deal. The monerators are taking it way to far and are in my opinion abusing there own power. Not fair and not good for the hamb. By the way I hope I don't get banned for saying all this.

Big Mac
12-07-2009, 07:47 PM
Ditto Denise.... I guess with a group this size, you're bound to have some real idiots.

Ryan, I for one enjoy the hell out of this site and have no problem with you enforcing the rules. Thanks for the enjoyable stuff while it lasts!

I Drag
12-07-2009, 08:06 PM
If I am not highly mistaken (quite possible) I saw a couple of pics depicting someone driving a car with a beer bottle in one hand, and a semi-automatic on the dashboard.

I knew then the time was short.

dgang26
12-07-2009, 08:08 PM
Well folks -- this thread has been moved -- I guess they did not want to hear our opinions on the big board

I guess that is just the way it is going to be --

metalshapes
12-07-2009, 08:08 PM
Thanks for the support...

I really appriciate it.


For the record, I dont think anybody got banned for posting any picture.

But some did for acting like a 12 year old, after getting one or more deleted.


Also, none of the Mods are on a powertrip.

For me personally, I take the task very serously, and I read through a lot of O/T crap to make sure I make the right decissions.



As far as it getting Closed ( it is not Deleted ), yeah it sucks.

But the Users that messed it up have had more than enough warnings.


I have no problem volunteering my time.
But that doesnt mean I'm going to waste it by doing exactly the same thing over and over again, on the same Thread.
Just to be back to square one a little while later...

NHBandit
12-07-2009, 08:12 PM
It's good to know that it wasn't deleted. There were alot of very cool pics there and it would be a shame if they were gone.:)

DistantHorizon
12-07-2009, 08:19 PM
I looked at all the pics on that thread - took a bunch of time over the last month. Finally got to the end, time to post my own contribution! Posted 3 of my own pics (twin-hemi [392-based, not 426] rails), thread lasted a day or two and closed. :(

hotrodladycrusr
12-07-2009, 08:22 PM
Well folks -- this thread has been moved -- I guess they did not want to hear our opinions on the big board

I guess that is just the way it is going to be --

Actually THIS is the exact place the thread should have been posted to begin with. This is the section for questions and suggestions regarding the board. The main section of the HAMB is for talking about hot rods and customs, NOT bitchen about how things are done around here.

Appreciate what the mods do around here or get the fuck out.....yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not a mod so I don't have to be as nice about it.

hellisterrodder
12-07-2009, 08:24 PM
If I am not highly mistaken (quite possible) I saw a couple of pics depicting someone driving a car with a beer bottle in one hand, and a semi-automatic on the dashboard.

I knew then the time was short.

oh yea I remember that pic. Gee I don't think his pic got deleted or did he get banned.

hellisterrodder
12-07-2009, 08:31 PM
Actually THIS is the exact place the thread should have been posted to begin with. This is the section for questions and suggestions regarding the board. The main section of the HAMB is for talking about hot rods and customs, NOT bitchen about how things are done around here.

Appreciate what the mods do around here or get the fuck out.....yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not a mod so I don't have to be as nice about it.


Wow language like that should get ya banned. Your mouth is realy offensive. I don't understand why you have to be so threatning. Woman to woman that's not very lady like.

gemcityrenegade
12-07-2009, 08:31 PM
So why did it get closed? Off topic? Sounds lame. The only time a thread got close on Pirate4x4 was cause the cops got involved. Wenzel.

Jimmy B
12-07-2009, 08:44 PM
For those that don't like how the mods operate, can I politely tell you to PISSOFF!! If threads stayed on topic and stayed drama free then the mods wouldn't have to close or delete them. This is a Trad Hot Rod Board after all. Noobs that don't like what the mods do to keep the HAMB on track, think to yourself, if all the threads you like get closed maybe the HAMB is not the forum for you.

I stopped looking at that thread long ago and I am glad it got closed.

All the Drama posts

OT posts

What it worth posts

S10, C10 post

They all suck!! and are worth deleting.

cheers

corncobcoupe
12-07-2009, 08:49 PM
Ok Here goes -
I sincerely hope all of you who find it disappointning to have things deleted, that you read this post and I am going to share things that might make you understand what/ why/ when / where and you name it.......... from all of this.

Some times I get a bit wordy with this stuff but you know what I don't care - read it or not, part of this is a reflection on the enjoyment I get from this and really maybe me sharing this that maybe - just maybe, you will start to see this sight in the same way that I do and this may also be a surprize to many of you but........

I was asked to help moderate this website quite a few years ago and since I love Traditional Hot Rods and Custom cars pretty much prior to 1964 but maybe a exception Ryan, the web site owener and of course I said yes ,and it is out of fun and love for the cars that I do this. Pretty simple, but I can tell you that many-many hours of all VOLUNTEERS make this site what it is and frankly a idea / love/ vision that Ryan Cochoran had to make this a ago many many years ago is here to enjoy the Cars and the people who share the love for cars. That's it - if you enjoy Traditonal Hot Rods and Customs than this sight is here for enjoyment.

If you wish to see something else maybe this sight isn't for you.

When I started there was less than 10,000 members - today over 80,000 and I can tell you many - many- many times that behind the sceens, moderators agreed that if we let ONE - JUST ONE exception to the rules to post something other than Traditional Hot Rods and Customs subject matter than we would have to let 10,000 more who want a exception so if you think we go overboard with deleting OFF TOPIC STUFF than I can tell you if we did not, than this sight would NOT be the site it is today. I have been to other sights where it started with one theme and with out DAILY moderation turned into a hodge podge of car junk frankly so you bet if it is off topic IT WILL BE DELETED. I ask of all of you - WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ?

Another surprize to all of you and expecially to those who said that Moderators abuse the power and who ya know and all that stuff.. well guess what ?

You guys - fellow Hamb members have the power to keep things in order by sending a report of guys who are not following the rules or off topic.
I don't go looking for it - I just open my email and get probaly 20 - 30 report emails a day and hit some moderator buttons and clean things up. So you guys "police" yourselves - really you do.

What I have noticed recentley is almost a demand of personal interests even if it does not pertain to the websites core of Traditional Hot Rods and Custom Cars.
Can there occationally be a excpetion to any rules like a cool old race car with history from the Mid 60's ? Yes .. why ? because if the websites owner thinks it is cool than so be it.
This IS NOT a democracy guys and gals.
When somebody gets their stuff deleted, you ALL would be very surprized how many deleted post owners send private messages to moderators bitching about being picked on. After a while you get enough bitching from a complainer and starts ripping into a moderator with threats etc and for what ? Volunteering for what should be fun - yea - your darn right getting Banned is in order. Who needs the hassle ? The rules a CLEARLY posted in about every post section that it pertians to.

My suggestion - start a new cool pictures thread and when and if a picture that is truely off topic gets posted - send a report to the moderators who will try their best to delete and keep on topic. What sucks is when you have a few bad apples ruin it for everyone.

Pass the word that this web site is about Traditional Hot Rods and Custom Cars with a emphasis of prior to 1964 for the most part ( exceptions based on web site owners likes etc.) and IF ALL OF YOU stay to that theme than your CAR posts / pictures will not get deleted - if you you post Off topic of the theme your posts / pictures WILL GET DELETED.

I mentioned the phrase " Traditional Hot Rods and Custom Cars' Sight more than a few times for a reason.......

Keep it to that and I really do hope you enjoy the HAMB as much as I do.

Cob
HAMB Moderator

metalshapes
12-07-2009, 09:02 PM
My suggestion - start a new cool pictures thread and when and if a picture that is truely off topic gets posted - send a report...

I respectfully request we hold off on that for a while.

A new Cool Pics Tread was started the first time it was Closed.

And when it was Re-opened I Merged them.


So we went down that route, and it didn't change anything...

dgang26
12-07-2009, 09:10 PM
I agree -- very offensive language indeed
No need for that at all

Wow language like that should get ya banned. Your mouth is realy offensive. I don't understand why you have to be so threatning. Woman to woman that's not very lady like.

3wLarry
12-07-2009, 09:15 PM
You said cool pictures post them. Maybe the topic will be more specific. Too many monerators and friends of Those that have too much power on this web site. I watch time and time again new people coming on and post a innocent question only to be told off by a senior member or monitor because they didn't use the search button. Slot of biased opinions if you ask me. It was wrong to closed the thread but it was also wrong to ban the guy for just simply posting a innocent funny picture. The guy should have been givin a warning that the pic will be deleted or somthing but not completly banned. It just makes me feel uncomfortable. I wasn't offened by his pic and I don't think it was a big deal. The monerators are taking it way to far and are in my opinion abusing there own power. Not fair and not good for the hamb. By the way I hope I don't get banned for saying all this.I'm not Ryan (but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night), but if I were, I would say if you don't like the way things are run here, start your own site and you'll quickly see why things are the way they are here.

Sometimes I don't agree with the way things are done here, but it's not my site...deal with it.

I don't always see eye-to-eye with the moderators like Cob, but I have to say after reading his reply here...the man nailed it on the head....rant over.

46stude
12-07-2009, 09:19 PM
When Denise is cussin' at you, you've screwed up.... bad.

Lovely thing about the 'net: Don't like the rules or people runnin' a particular site? Click the red X at the top right of yer screen.

And don't let the door hit you in the ass.

corncobcoupe
12-07-2009, 09:26 PM
I'm not Ryan (but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night), but if I were, I would say if you don't like the way things are run here, start your own site and you'll quickly see why things are the way they are here.

Sometimes I don't agree with the way things are done here, but it's not my site...deal with it.

I don't always see eye-to-eye with the moderators like Cob, but I have to say after reading his reply here...the man nailed it on the head....rant over.

Thanks Larry - It's really about the cars man for sure.
Maybe someday I'll run into ya somewhere to eyeball some some cool Old Hot Rods and a cold one.... first one is on me.

Cob

dgang26
12-07-2009, 09:45 PM
My opinion remains the same --
I think that the "Cool Pictures" thread was one of the best on the HAMB -- and I hated to see it closed down

Now, the mods obviously felt they needed to do it -- and so be it -- this is their board -- I'm just saying that I will really miss seeing all those very cool old pictures -- they ROCKED
It was cool seeing them all in one thread -- it was like a review of hot rodding history and was really fun to check in every day to see what new "treasure" had been added.

Sorry about starting a shit storm -- it was not my intention --

metalshapes
12-07-2009, 09:53 PM
Sorry about starting a shit storm -- it was not my intention --

Thats allright, man.

Opinions and feedback are good...

jhnarial
12-07-2009, 10:24 PM
I never really looked at the thread but I could see how it could be a moderators nightmare.

We are all just visitors here,so we have to follow the rules of the house.

Just enjoy the barbecue and don't pee in the pool.

RichG
12-07-2009, 10:32 PM
You know, there are lots, and I mean LOTS, of off topic threads that are let run on here everyday. The moderators show great restraint, I believe, in not simply closing each and every one of them.

A lot of us are guilty of posting off topic threads, or responding to them (I do, I admit it), and not once have I ever seen anything other than an e-mail saying "your post on blankety blank was deleted". Wow! Just exactly how is that an abuse of power? If it's off topic and I post it I'm a big boy, I knew it was off topic when I joined. How did I know? I read the rules like I was told to. Now how hard was that?
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You said cool pictures post them. Maybe the topic will be more specific. Too many monerators and friends of Those that have too much power on this web site. I watch time and time again new people coming on and post a innocent question only to be told off by a senior member or monitor because they didn't use the search button. Slot of biased opinions if you ask me. It was wrong to closed the thread but it was also wrong to ban the guy for just simply posting a innocent funny picture. The guy should have been givin a warning that the pic will be deleted or somthing but not completly banned. It just makes me feel uncomfortable. I wasn't offened by his pic and I don't think it was a big deal. The monerators are taking it way to far and are in my opinion abusing there own power. Not fair and not good for the hamb. By the way I hope I don't get banned for saying all this.

I've yet to see anyone told off by a moderator about anything. I seriously doubt anyone got banned for posting just an innocent funny picture. Moderators who abuse their "power" would be dealt with by the owner of this site in my way of thinking. As far as biased opinions, yeah, everybody's got one, you included.

When you go to the bathroom, do you read the label on the toilet paper wrapper to see how to use it? No, hopefully you don't, because you learned a long time ago how to use it. Same thing here, if you take the time to learn how to use this site (as you are instructed to when you join) then you don't need someone to repeat those instructions to you later, it should already be there. Hot rods and customs, pre '64. Pretty straightforward and simple if you ask me. I fail to see how having something deleted that doesn't conform to this is so difficult to comprehend.

Bottom line: get off the mods asses because all it's going to do is make things less fun around here. They don't deserve to get screwed with or told anything other than "thank you".

Mods: Thank you.

3wLarry
12-07-2009, 10:32 PM
Thanks Larry - It's really about the cars man for sure.
Maybe someday I'll run into ya somewhere to eyeball some some cool Old Hot Rods and a cold one.... first one is on me.

CobI don't care what Ryan says about you...you're allright for a white boy...

corncobcoupe
12-07-2009, 10:42 PM
I don't care what Ryan says about you...you're allright for a white boy...

Got that right.

btw the way Larry - more like Dumb ass white boy as this white boy has 2 purple eyes and a busted up nose and eye socket with a major chunk of the nose bridge gouged out for missing a hop and step over a parking lot curb and going face first into the asphalt.. ... dumb ass white boy is more like it.

Bondo for my nose bridge may be in order with the surgeon.

Cob

Chance it
12-07-2009, 10:45 PM
[QUOTE=dgang26;4644721]My opinion remains the same --
I think that the "Cool Pictures" thread was one of the best on the HAMB -- and I hated to see it closed down
Now, the mods obviously felt they needed to do it -- and so be it -- this is their board -- I'm just saying that I will really miss seeing all those very cool old pictures -- they ROCKED
It was cool seeing them all in one thread -- it was like a review of hot rodding history and was really fun to check in every day to see what new "treasure" had been added.

This is exactly how I feel about the thread. Wow I'm going to really miss it and the folks who post regularly on it :)
My question, (being a new gal on the site) do the moderators ever P.M. the offenders so neat threads like this don't get shut down? It appears a few folks ruined it for a lot of folks who really enjoyed it.... and yeah there were warnings.

RichG
12-07-2009, 10:46 PM
So why did it get closed? Off topic? Sounds lame. The only time a thread got close on Pirate4x4 was cause the cops got involved. Wenzel.

Charlie Wenzel. That might go down in history as the best thread in the history of the internet. Ever.

(See, I can go off topic in an off topic thread...not banned yet:p)

autobilly
12-07-2009, 11:09 PM
[QUOTE=dgang26;4644721]
My question, (being a new gal on the site) do the moderators ever P.M. the offenders so neat threads like this don't get shut down?
Most anyone who's been on here for any length of time, has had at least one thread/post shut down. When this happened to me, I got a very polite PM with a brief explanation and an invitation to check the rules. I can live with that.

PSB
12-07-2009, 11:15 PM
Well I ma Bummed. That thread keep me coming back more than any. Some great History on there...
Why is it gone? Nobogy realyy has said just it was OT. because some cars where to new or what? Good pic is good pics....

CURIOUS RASH
12-07-2009, 11:19 PM
It's not "gone". It was closed, not deleted....

More on why it was closed...


http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=424640

hotrodladycrusr
12-07-2009, 11:19 PM
My question, (being a new gal on the site) do the moderators ever P.M. the offenders so neat threads like this don't get shut down? It appears a few folks ruined it for a lot of folks who really enjoyed it.... and yeah there were warnings.

If you read this thread regarding the same subject that was posted yesterday you would realize that the mods spent alot of time over the last few months moderating and deleting OT posts and photos. When a persons posts gets deleted they get an automatic PM letting them know it got deleted.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=424640

If more people spent more time actually reading threads around here instead of just looking at the pictures more things would make sense. ;)

hotrodladycrusr
12-07-2009, 11:21 PM
Wow language like that should get ya banned. Your mouth is realy offensive. I don't understand why you have to be so threatning. Woman to woman that's not very lady like.

Put on your big girl panties and get over it.
You don't get banned around these parts for language, you get banned for being stupid.

PSB
12-07-2009, 11:42 PM
thanks for the link. 22 post deleated in a 2 days... wooo.... i kinda wish i could see them too.
is that wrong?.... ;-)

hellisterrodder
12-08-2009, 12:26 AM
Put on your big girl panties and get over it.
You don't get banned around these parts for language, you get banned for being stupid.
Well arnt you bad on a keyboard. And i guess because i don't agree with you and your fowl mouth i will be deleted or banned too. I'm already getting threatening emails cause i don't agree with the masses. Just another day in paradise.;) BTW someone calling another person names is childish and stupid. Be an adult.

cracker head
12-08-2009, 12:48 AM
You don't get banned around these parts for language, you get banned for being stupid.


I personally think that is an awsome statement!

RichG
12-08-2009, 01:10 AM
hey Denise, you've got a "fowl" mouth!?!:eek:

corncobcoupe
12-08-2009, 01:15 AM
Damn - earning my money this week......


Let's get back to cars please.

Thanks


Cob
Moderator

freebird101
12-08-2009, 11:54 AM
What "right"?? I can't fucking beleive you even typed that.
yeah sorry about that, it was just that I posted 40-60 (all on topic) photos and tho see it be deleted was bumming me out, my mind was probably slower than my fingers and that anger off it being closed came out(did not mean that at all)..sorry:(

PSB
12-08-2009, 11:57 AM
mods get paid?

Ryan
12-08-2009, 11:58 AM
I agree... drama sucks... people that start it and people that fuel it... It's just... ridiculous.

Back to hot rods and customs.

corncobcoupe
12-08-2009, 06:43 PM
mods get paid?

To clarify - no - there is no pay.

I said it because this post has taken a life of it's own and keeps going.

I volunteer my time because I choose to and enjoy the sight.

Like I said and Ryan said........ back to Hot Rod's and Customs.


Cob
Moderator