SEMA- I took in alot- But still dont swallow

[cole]

Was very impressed with the size of the aftermarket industry, was disappointed with the creative and "clone" of parts, so much money spent out there on companies and on special projects from FORD, GM, ect.........talent pool seems very small, One person from the custom/streetrod world had something like 10 cars there and is the King of SEMA...... but anyone that knows more then Whats written on showcards .......the guy cant do anything mech\paint\fab.....hires artist, then builders, painters...ect.......and is the most respected DESIGNER/BUILDER there? I looked into doing some Project work for,GM-Ford........and they make it so hard to meet the great OZ that its not worth me chasing it.

There is some very nice stuff there.

IM just going to stick to my ways, do what I like.

Its wild that basketball and rappers have dictated automotive industry so much.....same as if I have to hear orange county choppers builds nice bikes.....they dont build bikes. They assemble bikes, then hang bullshit off it.

TV is the teacher and gospel to most people. If your on TV your good, and everything is truth.

The best basketball players are in the NBA period, cause it cost nothing to play and just talent to play.

As far as most other sports and even professions go, money, parents time, and location dictate, if you think the best guys in the world are driving the indy 500 and pro motto cross? Small group of kids get the opportunity to try or have parents with time and $$ enough to give to there kids.

So I better get back to the BLING BLING chopper IM building starting today, and iv changed my name .....so call me MC master C from now on and ill see ya on cribs soon. IM out- mcmc

[Skate Fink]

"King Cole Snizzle" http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Fat Hack]

Cole be thuggin'...rollin' some bling-bling...gonna go big-time! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[FeO2]

Now you're catching on!I love it when someone finally sees the light! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Tuck]

The yellow brick road...

The OZ is for people like Britney Spears and Fred Durst... some people spend their whole life sniffing OZ's balls, I'd rather spend it scratching my own...

P.I.M.P. MCMC
ROCK OUT~

[DrJ]

If what you want to do doesn't have wide potential for big profits then GM or Ford don't want to bother with it.
They want the bling bucks.

It's not about the art.
It's not about the cars.
It;s not about the quality of design.
It's all about the profitability.
If good design was making big dollars it would be selling, but the Bling Bling is selling so that's all we're going to see more of, at least untill Mc Donalds quits using rap music to sell hamburgers.
If it doesn't make money it's nowhere to SEMA-think
Too bad, some people think SEMA represents OUR interests!?!

Ethics and good design won't make you rich in a VDO market.
Too bad,to.... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[lesabre59]

Build what YOU want, how YOU want and you will never have to justify the results. Simplicity, sublty and taste win everytime

[DrJ]

Cole,
And the rest of you...Read the interview with Chip Foose in the nov. 10 AutoWeek.
He talks about design integrity, and other things that make timely sense along Cole's post topic.

[Deyomatic]

"I'm the best you can get
Have you guessed me yet?
I'm the slime oozin' out
From your TV set " -Frank Zappa

[Evel]

Hey cole did you happen to see the Mad Fabricators Trailer at the Rod and Custom booth????

did you see the updated trailer with you in it???
See site below....

Evel

[Missing Link]

[ QUOTE ]
same as if I have to hear orange county choppers builds nice bikes.....they dont build bikes. They assemble bikes, then hang bullshit off it.


[/ QUOTE ]

I catch what your tossin' out cole, but that statement is just so obviously true. It amazes me how the masses will lemming-ize themselves to the television and believe that "coolness" is dictated by the mainstream media.

[AnimalAin]

Yeah, it is about making money, but the four-cam V8 Focus in the Ford booth was still pretty cool. The deal is really overwhelming, but there is lotsa evidence that just because you can shoot paint well doesn't mean you have any taste...... There were plenty of cool items and cars, though.

[Germ]

Did you get the pictures I sent you?
INDIANA will enjoy them also.

SEMA-N show??

It Feels good to walk amoungst a CROWD of " PERFORMANCE followers" and Look them in the eye, with a SMILE on your face... While DEEP DEEP inside of your SOUL,, you know you are HIDING the ETERNAL NEGRO, and that at ANY moment, that NEGRO can Come out and CONQUER with DEVIOUS means, anything that clouds it's VISION of DESTRUCTION....

My NEGRO SOUL spent the weekend, making CRANK CALLS to FATHERFURY, and HIDING the AX, that LIZZY BORDEN, used to destroy the OLD CHICKEN CAGE,, we use to hide the STOLEN harley PARTS in............

Cole DID you wear your PINKY RING?
You and INDIANA are invited to my gig with the fashion FUCKS in SANFRAN...

I will send you a TELEGRAM,,

KISSES.
GERM-AN SOLDIERS FOR THE BLITZKRIEG

[Fastsporty]

I thought I saw you there. The SEMA show was overwhelming I think I only got through a third of it.(I was walking around selling my wares[photography]). I swear the same girls that were modeling at the show were at Cheetahs strip club later that night. My highlights were seeing and hearing a real GT40 and that brushed AC was pretty cool, now I want to chrome my jack stands. I have some pics that I will post later.

[LIMEY]

Just carry on doing what you're doing as anyone with half a brain knows where you're coming from!
Shoulda parked your bike outside that woulda fucked with their heads, the gossip would have been "which box's did that come out of" http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[old beet]

YA just can't beat "CUBIC MONEY"...........OLDBEET

[oddrod]

sell out!

[ESnacky6]

Those who 'get it', get it...

those who don't 'get it', most likely never will...

[colorado51]

[ QUOTE ]
So I better get back to the BLING BLING chopper IM building starting today, and iv changed my name .....so call me MC master C from now on and ill see ya on cribs soon. IM out- mcmc

[/ QUOTE ]

Hey come on, you gotta have a Z in your name to be cool and trendy!

`Colez Rodz and Chopperz`

I used to go to the SEMA show when I worked at Kenz and Leslie. I thought is was pretty cool, but that was quite a few years ago, im sure its a lot different now.....

Keep doing YOUR thing.

[hotrodladycrusr]

Obviously SEMA is not the event for the traditional at heart but since it was brought up, here (http://www.project33.com/2003_SEMA/index.htm) are some photos from the Project33 sight.

[Deyomatic]

Did any of you guys see this car there? My buddy is a big time Dodge Turbo guy and he emailed this to me. Anyone have any info on it?

[choprods]

Yeah Cole- But do we wanna be like their posterboys-I dont think so,they really dont look that happy........we probably wouldnt trade places with em.

[mikes51]

[ QUOTE ]
Obviously SEMA is not the event for the traditional at heart but since it was brought up, here are some photos from the Project33 sight.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks HRLCruzer, lots of eye candy there.

[Dirty Dug]

Don't expect the kind of recognition you deserve until you're dead. Is that worth it?

[cole]

DrJ-words of wisdom.

I guess I dont like sitting on the bench much.

For years I was stuck loking overthe fence at alot of shops and people getting to do great projects and I couldnt get even one, I did my 54 chevy pretty nice ,thinking that would work.....almost 10 years and a call from zz top to do a custom......billy dissapeared. then a local guy walked in and wanted a F-100 done, mhe wasnt a show car guy but said he wanted it as nice as possible......I pushed it as far as he would go.

Then had a shot at a bike- pushed it too.

I just walk down the rows of products and cars and think "why didnt they call me" "cant they see what I see"

I just want to play.

But Im sure there is plenty of people that have talent that havent even got the chances I have.

these companies have big $ and manpower to seek out the best people ,even if it takes some looking and asking around , they would end up hero's if they would do there homework and not just use the same group of three .

And dosent anyone go up to OZ and say " you know you hired nilley vanilly or what ever the lip sinkers name is"

OK done talk'n CF

[Unkl Ian]

[ QUOTE ]
these companies have big $ and manpower to seek out the best people

[/ QUOTE ] They must be looking for something else.Candy coating has become more important than substance in many circles.

[nor cal nic]

yea, but how about that RICK DORE?
nic

[Nads]

SEMA.

Spurious Emanations from Moneyed Assholes.

[cleatus]

A long-time friend and old racing buddy of mine wanted me to bring my car down and put it in his booth for SEMA (his company put together the Ford 9" for it - which I traded him graphic design work for).

I felt bad turning him down, but I just pictured day after day of people walking by and making snide comments along the lines of "what's THAT pile of crap doing here - there aint a single trick part on it"

SEMA is all about the bling-bling and I don't got even one bling.

[OGNC]

About the only thing SEMA is good for is running into old friends and making your feet hurt. I have to say that the best part of the whole deal is buckleing down with a couple of good friends and building something for the show. The years that I have been involved in a project have been great and the years I haven't have been a bore. So, I can totally see where Cole is coming from. Hopefully after this year's project (read huge pain in the ass), next year we'll have a little more than 50 days to pull the rabbit out of the hat.

[DrJ]

HA!
Nads said SPURIOUS!!

[ QUOTE ]
SEMA.

Spurious Emanations from Moneyed Assholes.

[/ QUOTE ]

In fact the whole title sounds like a Robt Williams "short title" doesn't it?

good one Nads!

[Spike!]

Cleatus- You should have gone. Just to mess with people's heads.. Yesterday I went to a local show at this huge night club place. They parked me inside along with some real high dollar cars. It was funny to watch people kind of glance around and spot my little shit box in the corner and make a bee line for it. Passing all the guys polishing thier shiny plastic 1:1 scale model cars. After a while the goldchainers were coming over too.. saying how THEY are going to have a "Rat Rod" built for them next! Funny as hell. PLUS it was fun to drive around inside. It was like driving in your living room.

Spike

[hotrodladycrusr]

I gotta blow this boy's horn a bit. His name is Patrick Plenge and he has a small shop in Mansfield, OH. Visited this young fellow's shop back this past April. He is doing the paint and interior on SKR8PN's 38 Dodge truck. An awesome project that will be completed inless then 3 months.

Anyway, last April, the Camaro was in the shop in all it's stock mullet-ness. The artist rendering that Patrick did was hanging on the wall next to it. Now, less then 6 months later, it's at SEMA in the Holley display, and no, Holley did not pay to build the car. Patrick won the award for "Best GM Car" there. He's not a Foose, Coddington or Dore, just your average joe working outta a shop in the midwest. It's nice when the little guys can get recognize for their talents right along with the big dogs on the blocks. GM also made it perfectly clear they want it in their booth at the Detroit Autorama in Fed. Congrats to Patrick on an award well deserved. (the photo came from the project 33 site)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not HAMB material but my whole point is the little guy does get national recognition every now and then for a job well done.

http://www.project33.com/2003_SEMA/images/DSCN7854.jpg

[Leon]

[ QUOTE ]
Did any of you guys see this car there? My buddy is a big time Dodge Turbo guy and he emailed this to me. Anyone have any info on it?

[/ QUOTE ]
I got a chance to see it, too bad things were a bit crammed together as it was difficult to get a real good look without tripping on something. It is powered by a Neon engine and was set up for Bonneville. It was a nice change of pace to see a car that wasn't a trailer queen at that show.

[SKR8PN]

Thanks Denise.......Patrick has been working his ASS off trying get that car done for the owner. This project was built by a guy just like all of us. He scrimps and gets by just like we all do. The fellow that OWNS this car is the same way. Family man. No deep pockets here boys and girls. Patrick started out three years ago in his garage at home. All his business has been sent to him "word of mouth". He does NOT have a big budget like Foose or Coddington,to waste money on advertising,so he HAS to be good. This may be what some would consider a billet mobile,BUT,this is what he does.
He does not hire anyone to do this for him. HE DOES IT,and he does it ALL. Fabrication,body prep,paint suspension,and even stitched the interior himself.
What you see in this Camaro is pure passion...........

[Django]

Did anyone take pics of Jimmy Shine's F150? Fastsporty is taking TOO long to post his... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[cole]

That camaro was a nice piece, I was quickly introduced to the kid who built and and told him " very nice job, stand out" Im not scared to blow his horn HRCL either. Cant wait for SAMIAM to see shines truck and tells us what he thinks, remember we cant a torch to him, hes in his own league.

[FRITZ]

COLE!
I got a blow torch and a dream baby! sounds like we have been to the same church man. we have seen the light, (threw a welding mask) dont hate them cause they are stupid, tell them they are smart for spending their money with you!
FRITZ

[cole]

Amen brother fritz, you still do any magazine work (horse)? billy bike mag.........lol

[slazzen]

its funny how a little money will change a person my brother has been a body man for 15 yrs he got hurt at work ripped his rotater cuff and they say he is permanatly disabled from working in his trade so he got a job doing home refinacing well he has made $130,000 dollars in 4 months $75.000 last month alone he was #1 in the nation for his company he just went down and bought a new $50,000 pickup yes with 24`s bling bling and now i get the lecture of how i need to get my life together from the new improved little brother I am vomiting still but i asked him for a job so i am looking for a new gold chain

[Unkl Ian]

Cole:you have a PM

[Jive-Bomber]

We all know why many guys go:
The Girls of SEMA Bling Bling:

http://bbs.off-road.com/photobb/showgallery.php?cat=667&thumb=1

[screamindave]

Cole:
I was definitely blung over by the end of the show. And hung over. And tapped out. Too much cash spent on booze 'n' boobies. But yeah, you're right; I don't know, the hip-hop grip that's on the country is kind of irritating. Not that there isn't some good hip hop out there, but the sheer materialistic, "How much shit can I bolt on to this car?" thing is pretty fucking ridiculous. I mean, what *exactly* is the point of a slammed H2?
Let's just put it this way; the auto industry co-opts who they want to co-opt; it's like punk rock; there are the Good Charlottes of the industry (your aforementioned King of SEMA), there are the the Iggys (think the Doane Spencer roadster in the Ford display), there are companies like So-Cal who are kind of like the Clash; well-connected both high and low, do interesting things, funnel some stuff back into the grass-roots and then go out and lay a Sandanista! on your ass like that new belly-tanker. And then there are the little guys who may or not get thrown a bone here and there; the quality of the work doesn't matter so much as the name they can put on the display. Why do you think Ford had Shine to do that new F-150? Not that Jim isn't connected to a larger entity that has a good relationship with FoMoCo, but by having him do that truck, they were able to attempt to say, "Hey! Look! This new F-150 can be a hot rod! It's just like a '34! But not!"

For me, SEMA's a blast; you can't take it all too seriously, but you can't take it lightly either. I don't know, I mean, the whole thing's ludicrous at the same time as it's pretty fuckin' amazing. Plus I got to drink a lot of free whiskey.

Rock.
Dave.

[screamindave]

Here's Shine's F-150. John Ricco took the photo.
Rock.
Dave.

P.S. Those induction stacks actually feed a plenum; I'm not exactly sure how it all works. Thacker @ So-Cal was gonna show me but then we ran out of time.

[dondanno]

Cole you are making too much sense here. If we do what we love and others get it great and if they dont then thats great too. If your gonna do it for just the money you just may end up selling your soul. Like Slazzen says we can always do something else for a bunch of money, but I do this because I love it.
Oh ya for shizzle my whizzle...Danny

[gege]

did the "iron crossed" f150 look better in person than the picture makes it out to be ? looks hoekie in the pic ! just an opinion looking for justice.