60 pontiac, trying to hook up the heater....

[SwitchBlade327]

and i dunno where to hell to put one of the heater hoses. It was disconnected and plugged up when i got the car (hoping it wasn't becuase the heater core leaks). One hose is going to the passenger side head, but i have no clue where the other hose should connect. Does it hook up to the thermostat bypass? That's where I"m gonna try it at if i don't find out anything else.

[forsakenfew]

i'm doing the exact same thing. i hope someone can help us out.

[tommy]

http://www.motor-life.com/americanmotors/pontiac/1960_oq2102/pontiac60_oq2102m.jpg
Can't tell from the picture but I'd look real hard on the water pump for a plug.

[Fatchuk]

That's right..there should be a plug or possibly a pipe that somebody blocked off...one hose runs from the pump to the core and the other one from the outlet side of the core to either the intake near the thermostat or somewhere in that area..if the core has the pipe..one above the other the one from the pump should go to the upper one if the the pipes are beside each other they are usuallly a different size if the manufacturer wants you to push the coolant in one or the other direction..otherwize it doesn't matter...fatchuk

[SwitchBlade327]

ok, looks like one of them goes into the bottom of the pump(circle numero uno), but in that picture i don't see a hose going into the drivers side head like on mine, it hooks up where circle numero 2 is. Is that motor from the same year?

[Rocky]

Well, I can see the mo-fo in the photo! Look at where the upper radiator hose connects to the t-stat housing and follow the hose up from it's clamp about 2 or 3 inches. Then look straight down. See the heater hose pipe [with a 90 degree bend in it] sticking up from the water pump housing? It appears to be blocked off but it's there.
In the photo, the fan shroud corner blocks vision to part of it but it's definetely there......

[forsakenfew]

rocky, that actually goes from the pump into the intake manifold. i just looked at mine this afternoon, as i have to do the EXACT same thing as ST327.

[tommy]

http://www.firsttraderegistry.com/forsale/pre80/american/PA160017.JPG
That seems to be a bypass. My 63 389 had a different bypass with a rubber washer and a 5/16" bolt. Both pics are 60 Poncho's.

[forsakenfew]

OK! I JUST WENT AND LOOKED AGAIN WITH A FLASHLIGHT!!

now i've been drinking, so i could be wrong, but take a look at the bottom of your radiator. its got a fitting right next to the lower engine coolant line. that goes to the core, and so does the on coming out the front of the passenger side head.

make sense? probalby not. stupid beer.

[SwitchBlade327]

yeah according to my teacher that's the thermostat bypass or some shit, so the coolant can go through when you first start it up or something, but there isn't anywhere i can tell that the heater hose can attach to it. and the hose going to the intake from the pump is alot smaller than the heater hoses. I tried finding more pics of these motors for reference but didn't find any wher ei could see.

[forsakenfew]

look at the second pic tommy posted. if you look at the lower radiator line, you can see the hose clamp for the heater core line right behind it.

[Rocky]

Oh! That's very different!



nevermind..................

[forsakenfew]

come on switchblade, keep up with the drunk guy

iv'e been out with a fucking flashlight to figure this out. i THINK i'm right. but it is odd there isn't a line out of the pump. hell i just got my poncho 5 days ago

[SwitchBlade327]

ok so that's the problem. My car doesn't have the stock radiator....It's got one out some mopar....it's always fucking something. Would the heater hose have to go to the bottom of the radiator?

[forsakenfew]

shit, makes no sense to me rocky. but if it works, great. its like 40 degrees in seattle right now, and im too skrawny for that shit

[forsakenfew]

that somebody else will have to answer for you. like i said, this pontiac shit is NEW for me. this has been cool though, cause i was wondering the same thing.

hey, did you get my PM about shocks?

[SwitchBlade327]

yeah i got the pm, but the shocks seem to be fine, i think someone just did a shitty lowering job in the front. Anyone knwo what the hell i can do about getting the heater going with a mopar radiator? Theres a place on the top of it on the drivers side where a hose could be hooked up at, but it'll look like shit and be a really long hose, if it would even work.

[tommy]

I think some of the early Ford parts suppliers still sell a fitting that goes into the lower radiator hose for an after market heater hose. It would have to be a formed hose and not the corrogated type. You actually cut a hole in the hose and install the fitting. The good news is, if one side of the heater core is still hooked to the block, then the heater core is still good.

[SwitchBlade327]

yeah, i thought the heater core was ok when i moved the control cable and it put coolant back into the motor ( i had the temp sensor out so it puked on the floor). But the core don't do me any good if i can't hook the shit up. WHat do you mean formed hoses, my hoses are like the ones in the picture above, just some rubber shit.

[tommy]

Yeah the formed smooth hose. Not the bendable wrinkle surface universal fit all type hose. You have to take the hose off. Cut a hole in it close to the end. Slip a tapped metal washer inside the hose that the nipple screws into. When you tighten it up it seals the hose and gives you a nipple to connect the heater hose to.

[SwitchBlade327]

hmmm....I'll have to try to rig something like that up this week then. Thanks for the tip!

[SwitchBlade327]

heres the engine of mine when i first got it, notice the dodge aircleaner, and radiator. The aircleaner is gone but I"ll have to deal with the radiator.

http://photo.starblvd.net/~SwitchBlade327/5-1-5.jpg

[tommy]

If your lower hose looks like the upper hose (corrogated) the fitting probably wont seal.

[SwitchBlade327]

guess I'll just have to get the car drivable again so i can run it to the parts store and find a proper hose. Thanks.

[Rocky]

I think I'd T into the bypass for a hose nipple. The existing connector on the right cylinder head should be cool coolant just coming from the radiator, on it's way into the the engine and the bypass should be heated coolant on it's way back to the radiator. It should work ok.

[ShortBus]

I know dick about your heater hoses, but I do know that 38chevy454 is parting out a 60 Olds. You might ask him about the radiator.

luck
R