View Full Version : Epoxy Primers/Sealers and Single stage Paint


scootermcrad
10-22-2009, 05:54 PM
(I searched here first, and didn't see anything specifically on KS, except for HotRod Flatz)

I've been looking at various epoxy primer and sealer systems by various makes (PPG, HOK, DuPont, etc.) Since I'm going to be running around in primer for a little bit until the bugs are worked out of everything, I figured I would at least put it in something other than light gray and closer to the color it will actually be. I found that there are several systems out there that offer a few colors.

While educating myself in all this epoxy primer business I keep running across this brand that TPC Global sells: Kustom Shop Paint Products. Looked for reviews from people on the product and didn't see any negatives on their products.

Anyone familiar with these primer systems? Here's a link to the page:

http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/ksprime.aspx

Everytime I look for PPG or HOK primers on TPC Global it takes me right to that page.

Just curious. Thanks!

da34guy
10-22-2009, 06:08 PM
Try SPI Products

scootermcrad
10-22-2009, 06:28 PM
Try SPI Products

These guys??

http://www.southernpolyurethanes.com/Product%20lines.htm

Okay. I hadn't seen them before. Prices are good. How is it?

Anyone know about Kustom Shop Products??

SlowandLow63
10-22-2009, 10:25 PM
These guys??

http://www.southernpolyurethanes.com/Product%20lines.htm

Okay. I hadn't seen them before. Prices are good. How is it?

Anyone know about Kustom Shop Products??

From what I hear, their clears are top notch. I've been wanting to try them myself. I don't know much about their primers though.

Is the price on HOK scaring you? Or the color/sealer thing?

KJSR
10-22-2009, 10:33 PM
I used their epoxy primer/sealer on my Plymouth firewall. It worked good and have had no issues (but it has sat in the garage ever since:rolleyes:). I have also used their single stage paint which was pretty good too. I did find while their prices are pretty decent, their shipping costs took the savings away. I have reverted back to dealing with the local paint shop. Your local shop should have a "house" brand that they offer and I would think it's equal to their "kustom shop". Now that I think about it, I'm as happy with the cheap stuff as I was with my $250 PPG.....

da34guy
10-23-2009, 07:18 AM
SPI is great stuff, have been usin it for years, never a problem.
Their Universial clear is by far the best i"ve ever used.
The epoxy will bite to anything (clean)

mikhett
10-23-2009, 07:51 AM
I go to Smartshoppers.com and buy Hok kp2cf epoxy primer mixed 1:1 for 200.00 bucks you get 2 gallons sprayable.

theHIGHLANDER
10-23-2009, 08:26 AM
PPG's Shopline products are a good choice. The epoxy primers are the old school DP formula with the trace metals left in, prices are much less.

scootermcrad
10-23-2009, 09:05 AM
Is the price on HOK scaring you? Or the color/sealer thing?
Not scared of the price per say (although I AM shopping around), but didn't like so much that I would have to lay down another product over it to get close to the desired color I want to run around in for a year.

MOSTLY though... I'm just trying to educate myself on all the bads, good, what's available, why people do or don't use certain products, etc.. I definitely realize who has the "top shelf" products, but since I've started to read and research I've come across all kinds of systems. Just want to know all my options and weigh the pros and cons of each.

In the end, I will choose something based on feedback from people with experience over someone who has just painted their first thing ever last week and it was a patio table. :rolleyes::D

I sort of expected I wouldn't hear much on the Kustom Shop products. I figured I would hear more though. Is it just TPC's "house product"?

scootermcrad
10-23-2009, 09:10 AM
SPI is great stuff, have been usin it for years, never a problem.
Their Universial clear is by far the best i"ve ever used.
The epoxy will bite to anything (clean)
I'll look into this a little more. Thanks!

I go to Smartshoppers.com and buy Hok kp2cf epoxy primer mixed 1:1 for 200.00 bucks you get 2 gallons sprayable.
I'll check out smartshoppers. Thanks!

PPG's Shopline products are a good choice. The epoxy primers are the old school DP formula with the trace metals left in, prices are much less.
I've really been trying to learn more about all the PPG products that people have recommended to me and DAMN their website is a pain in the ass. Everything that anyone recommends to me doesn't come up on their website and it drives me crazy. Does anyone else have this problem? Frustrating! ShopLine does appear to come up though. FINALLY!

I used their epoxy primer/sealer on my Plymouth firewall. It worked good and have had no issues (but it has sat in the garage ever since:rolleyes:). I have also used their single stage paint which was pretty good too. I did find while their prices are pretty decent, their shipping costs took the savings away. I have reverted back to dealing with the local paint shop. Your local shop should have a "house" brand that they offer and I would think it's equal to their "kustom shop". Now that I think about it, I'm as happy with the cheap stuff as I was with my $250 PPG.....
Great! That's good to know! Thanks!

scootermcrad
10-23-2009, 09:18 AM
PPG's Shopline products are a good choice. The epoxy primers are the old school DP formula with the trace metals left in, prices are much less.
Looking at the Shop-Line products, real quick...

https://buyat.ppg.com/refinishProductCatalog/ViewProduct.aspx?ProductID=26f0b8be-236e-4214-827b-58ef2dd2503b

One thing I notice is that it doesn't have the ability to be reduced as a sealer. How does it hold up over a extended period of time? If I ran around in it for a bit, can it be scrubbed and prepped for a base coat (or another coat of epoxy) or would it all have to be stripped off again?

scootermcrad
10-23-2009, 12:05 PM
So, if no more feedback on Kustom Shop, I guess keep the other suggestions going. Any other companies worth checking out before I start ordering stuff?

theHIGHLANDER
10-25-2009, 06:22 AM
Looking at the Shop-Line products, real quick...

https://buyat.ppg.com/refinishProductCatalog/ViewProduct.aspx?ProductID=26f0b8be-236e-4214-827b-58ef2dd2503b

One thing I notice is that it doesn't have the ability to be reduced as a sealer. How does it hold up over a extended period of time? If I ran around in it for a bit, can it be scrubbed and prepped for a base coat (or another coat of epoxy) or would it all have to be stripped off again?

Yes it can be used as a sealer. I do it often. It's just about the same as the old DP, but what you need to know is that ALL epoxy primer/sealers are not very UV resistant. More than 1 season in the sun and you'll need to re-coat. I get what you wanna do here, drive around in primer until...

Shopline comes in white, grey and black. I have tinted the stuff for certain base colors with no ill results. For sealer use add a 1/2 measure of urethane reducer like their 506 or 507 depending on temp/conditions. As long as it doesn't go too long a re-caot shouldn't be an issue. If it gets really chalky, sorta lighter grey in color you may need to remove a significant amount for re-coat/color. I'll stand bt my experiences and say again that ALL epoxy primers are not very UV resistant. Any add'l help needed don't hesitate to ask. Good luck.




Hey waiy a min...where's pics of the car? If their in an older post refresh our memories.

chopolds
10-25-2009, 07:13 AM
WOW!
A paint thread where a guy asks a question...gets good answers...gives good feedback...and asks more intelligent questions.....
AM I REALLY ON THE HAMB??????????
After coming out of shock....I just need to add to this.....The reason I use HOK, and probably Bill, as well, is that is is a great "one shot" primer. That is, it had great adhesion, fills scratches and imperfections very well, sands easily, and is a good sealer as well. You really don't need any other product!
As for needing a different product to get the colot you want...only if you're runnng around in primer and don't like GAHGAH green. I agree that color is somewhat disturbing. But whatever color you use on top of it will cover it well. Sometimes I use KO sealer on top, just so I don't have to put on excess coats of color, to cover it (as with a very transparent color) but just as often, I don't use a sealer.

Christopher26
10-25-2009, 07:14 AM
I got Kustom Shops, DTM epoxy primer/ sealer on my 51, and its been a year of NY winter and rain and theres been no problem whats so ever with it, I used it on my uncles bike also. I was also able to tint it to match the roof flake and used there mid clear, and clear on top of it. I couldnt be happier with the results

pimpin paint
10-25-2009, 10:09 AM
Hey Scoot,

If your end game is to actually top coat this thing someday, I'd be shopping a primer/sealer that will live happily ever after with your top coat choice! Pick a paint system and go with that is what I'm sayin'.

Kirker, PCL & Omni (PPG's shop brand) all make "good'' budget friendly products that you can buy over the counter in good ol' O.C.!

I'd stay outa the heavily tinted primer arena, & go with a medium or darker primer to begin with if your top coat is gonna be medium to dark in colour.

Swanky Devils C.C.
" Meanwhyle, back aboard The Tainted Pork"

Doktor Hug
10-25-2009, 10:41 AM
I always like to support small local shops. I was really surprised this year with some paint from Nason...PPG's? low-cost brand. It worked really well, and they had a nice range of factory and custom colors. I think they even sell it at O'Reiley's now.

Try that out and see what you think.

Boones
10-25-2009, 11:01 AM
chopolds, you got a picture of what that GAHGAH green looks like sprayed.

Jeff J
10-25-2009, 11:16 AM
I've been using there products for the last 4 years and love It (Kustom Shop)! Painted a lot of gas pumps with them at first trying the stuff out and it flows great and is user friendly! Kinda seams like the old formula of PPG Been spraying PPG for years and things change !That's why I went and tried them (Kustom Shop)

SlowandLow63
10-25-2009, 07:11 PM
chopolds, you got a picture of what that GAHGAH green looks like sprayed.

Mint choclate chip ice cream, without the choclate. Mmmmmmm... now I want ice cream, we have cookie dough in the fridge though...

You still want a pic?

chopolds
10-26-2009, 06:12 AM
Here's a pic of an air filter i was getting ready to paint.

scootermcrad
10-26-2009, 10:12 AM
WOW! This thread SERIOUSLY rocks! This is EXACTLY the type of input I wanted! Can't state my appreciation enough! I have learned so much about paint and prep from so many different helpful HAMBers! It's really staggering and for that matter, sort of overwhelming. I've found that almost every single guy I've talked to has a different answer, but I've learned lots from every answer. It's obvious there's multiple solutions to the process, but educating myself will only make it easier to prevent a mistake.

I've been using there products for the last 4 years and love It (Kustom Shop)! Painted a lot of gas pumps with them at first trying the stuff out and it flows great and is user friendly! Kinda seams like the old formula of PPG Been spraying PPG for years and things change !That's why I went and tried them (Kustom Shop)

Great! Thank you for sharing that!

I always like to support small local shops. I was really surprised this year with some paint from Nason...PPG's? low-cost brand. It worked really well, and they had a nice range of factory and custom colors. I think they even sell it at O'Reiley's now.

Try that out and see what you think.

Okay! I know a soon to be famous coupe of another HAMBer used the Nason single stage on his chassis and it looks amazing!! He really liked it as well. I've heard mixed reviews on the Nason, but I've been considering it as well. ESPECIALLY after seeing the results of his car.


If your end game is to actually top coat this thing someday, I'd be shopping a primer/sealer that will live happily ever after with your top coat choice! Pick a paint system and go with that is what I'm sayin'.

Kirker, PCL & Omni (PPG's shop brand) all make "good'' budget friendly products that you can buy over the counter in good ol' O.C.!

I'd stay outa the heavily tinted primer arena, & go with a medium or darker primer to begin with if your top coat is gonna be medium to dark in colour.

EXACTLY what I'm thinking. I'm thinking of even just mixing to a darker gray and being done with it. Your suggestion at the Broiler the other night was very helpful! The next morning I was on the computer reading up on Omni and other things you mentioned. Thanks for your help!

Yes it can be used as a sealer. I do it often. It's just about the same as the old DP, but what you need to know is that ALL epoxy primer/sealers are not very UV resistant. More than 1 season in the sun and you'll need to re-coat. I get what you wanna do here, drive around in primer until...

Shopline comes in white, grey and black. I have tinted the stuff for certain base colors with no ill results. For sealer use add a 1/2 measure of urethane reducer like their 506 or 507 depending on temp/conditions. As long as it doesn't go too long a re-caot shouldn't be an issue. If it gets really chalky, sorta lighter grey in color you may need to remove a significant amount for re-coat/color. I'll stand bt my experiences and say again that ALL epoxy primers are not very UV resistant. Any add'l help needed don't hesitate to ask. Good luck.

Hey waiy a min...where's pics of the car? If their in an older post refresh our memories.

I've been thinking very seriously about going with the PPG system of paints for base and clear, so I'm considering the PPG Epoxy from this system, and maybe some of their others. Before I buy anything, I want to check base and clears to make sure whatever primer I go with is going to be compatible. I hear horror stories about people using one brand for primer and then another for base-clear and having the finish lift and having to start over. I like very much the idea of staying with one brand.

So you need a picture? This is a somewhat out-dated picture, but this is what I've been working on...

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk218/scootermcrad2/1931%20Ford/DSC09554.jpg

Really the focus of all this information is on the chassis itself though. I have a butt-load more work to do on the body before it's ready for ANY type of finish work.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk218/scootermcrad2/1931%20Ford/DSC01026.jpg

Right now it's all blown apart and I'm just focusing on the chassis and suspension. That's a handful in itself. 22 hours straight in the shop this weekend just working on finishing up the frame. I still have a lot more to do and I think I'm going to get a little media blaster to get into the tough spots before I lay any primer down. AGAIN! This is still very rough!

Running gear will be gloss black and the frame itself will be the same color as the body.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk218/scootermcrad2/1931%20Ford/DSC01065.jpg

pimpin paint
10-26-2009, 07:13 PM
Hey Scoot,

Are you hell bent for using a base coat, clear coat (BB/CC) finish on your hot rod, and if so, why?

To me, a clear coat finish on a hot rod looks about like a whore in a girl scout dress! Nothing close to ''traditional'' & kinda ''poser-like''! Yeah, great for fucking Cameros and street rods, but hot rods, uh, no! Too, all clear coat finishes lacquer, acrylic, epoxy & urethane, will one day have ''ultraviolet light decomposition problems''. When a single stage finish begins to age you can cut/buff back the dead finish and wax for a shine. When a BB/CC finish, more correctly the clear coat takes a shit, you're lookin' a a complete refinish.
Once upon a time, we use to call the Nason line of paint "Used Car Paint". It was a cheap alkyd enamel, but we'd take Ditzler's (now PPG) Delstar urethane crosslinker , and knock up the mix to produce a very cheap, but very durable mutant urethane. I think Nason is now owned by Dupont, and probably not even the same product it was 25-30 yrs. ago, but some like it still. If you're runnin' low on dough, somethin to think 'bout.
Yeah, it don't have the "snob appeal'' of some of the ''euro-trash'' brands of paint, or HOK, but will not kick the shit out of your build budget either!
Jus' somethin' else to think over-

Swanky Devils C.C.
" Meanwhyle, back aboard The Tainted Pork"

scootermcrad
10-26-2009, 10:46 PM
Hey Scoot,

Are you hell bent for using a base coat, clear coat (BB/CC) finish on your hot rod, and if so, why?

To me, a clear coat finish on a hot rod looks about like a whore in a girl scout dress! Nothing close to ''traditional'' & kinda ''poser-like''! Yeah, great for fucking Cameros and street rods, but hot rods, uh, no! Too, all clear coat finishes lacquer, acrylic, epoxy & urethane, will one day have ''ultraviolet light decomposition problems''. When a single stage finish begins to age you can cut/buff back the dead finish and wax for a shine. When a BB/CC finish, more correctly the clear coat takes a shit, you're lookin' a a complete refinish.
Once upon a time, we use to call the Nason line of paint "Used Car Paint". It was a cheap alkyd enamel, but we'd take Ditzler's (now PPG) Delstar urethane crosslinker , and knock up the mix to produce a very cheap, but very durable mutant urethane. I think Nason is now owned by Dupont, and probably not even the same product it was 25-30 yrs. ago, but some like it still. If you're runnin' low on dough, somethin to think 'bout.
Yeah, it don't have the "snob appeal'' of some of the ''euro-trash'' brands of paint, or HOK, but will not kick the shit out of your build budget either!
Jus' somethin' else to think over-


Nope! Not hell-bent at all for a two-stage system.

Since I'm far from being even a rookie painter, I know very little about final finishes that have been used over the years. This is a good point! Maybe I haven't thought nearly enough about it.

Thanks for the input Rex! I appreciate it! I'll start doing my research. Feel free to add any knowledge and/or input on single stage finishes/systems.

chopolds
10-27-2009, 06:07 AM
Glad to see another painter who likes single stage paint. I almost always use it for solid colors, on old cars. Looks MUCH more authentic. But then again, Pimpin is one of the best paint authorities on board here!
Good trick, if you want the single stage to look more like lacquer, than enamel, is to paint enough to get coverage, then put on 2-3 more coats mixed half and half with a compatible clear. You can fool a lot of people that way, even painters! Hell, I've even done this with black Centari and fooled a lot of folks!

zman
10-27-2009, 07:54 AM
Good trick, if you want the single stage to look more like lacquer, than enamel, is to paint enough to get coverage, then put on 2-3 more coats mixed half and half with a compatible clear. You can fool a lot of people that way, even painters! Hell, I've even done this with black Centari and fooled a lot of folks!

hey hey, that was my plan for my 38.... a restoration guy hipped me to it.

51ChevPU
10-27-2009, 08:04 AM
Scooter

The TCP global people are the ones that sell Hot Rod Flatz. I've been at their shop and its located just north of San Diego in the Miramar area. The guys at the front desk were very helpful. I have some of their Hot Rod Flatz product, but I haven't shot it yet. Since your in Huntington, maybe a paying them a visit would get you the answers you're looking for.

scootermcrad
10-27-2009, 08:43 AM
Glad to see another painter who likes single stage paint. I almost always use it for solid colors, on old cars. Looks MUCH more authentic. But then again, Pimpin is one of the best paint authorities on board here!
Good trick, if you want the single stage to look more like lacquer, than enamel, is to paint enough to get coverage, then put on 2-3 more coats mixed half and half with a compatible clear. You can fool a lot of people that way, even painters! Hell, I've even done this with black Centari and fooled a lot of folks!
WOW! Very cool! I'm just realizing how far beyond this stuff is for me! HAHA! This is AWESOME information!! Sounds like I need to start reading up on single stage paint.

Keep the info coming on single-stage paint, guys!

Wow! Learning a TON from this thread!! :eek::eek: Again, agreeing with what someone said about the HAMB earlier, it's such a breath of fresh air to ask a question and get some great answers without a lot of BS getting in the way! Thank you EVERYONE! Keep the info coming! :cool::cool:

SlowandLow63
10-27-2009, 05:59 PM
Glad to see another painter who likes single stage paint. I almost always use it for solid colors, on old cars. Looks MUCH more authentic. But then again, Pimpin is one of the best paint authorities on board here!
Good trick, if you want the single stage to look more like lacquer, than enamel, is to paint enough to get coverage, then put on 2-3 more coats mixed half and half with a compatible clear. You can fool a lot of people that way, even painters! Hell, I've even done this with black Centari and fooled a lot of folks!

Why do you think I stock two different PPG clears?!??!! :D :D Best trick in the world and they even have it in the tech sheets!

scootermcrad
10-27-2009, 06:08 PM
Why do you think I stock two different PPG clears?!??!! :D :D Best trick in the world and they even have it in the tech sheets!
Okay... quit holding back! Speak up! Single stage paints. Ready.....

... GO!

SlowandLow63
10-27-2009, 06:38 PM
Okay... quit holding back! Speak up! Single stage paints. Ready.....

... GO!

Pimpin already explained why they rock, I'll add a bit.

As you know I use PPG Concept SS. Global is way nicer but its super pricey. I usually spray 2 coats of straight SS then the SS mixed 50/50 with DCU2021 clear. 2 coats of that. As Mark said, it makes the color coats more transparent and deep but still retains the non-clear coat look. NOTE: Both the clear and SS need to use the same hardeners. The are mixed 50/50 RTS. (Ready to Spray) Meaning mix up a cup of the SS like you normally would with the reducer and hardener. Then mix a cup of clear the same. The mix those 2 50/50.

Tindall's frame did not have mixed clear in it, because, well, its a frame. His body however will.

SlowandLow63
10-27-2009, 06:41 PM
Haha, you need to change the title of this thread! :D

60'coupe
10-27-2009, 07:11 PM
Hey Scoot,

Are you hell bent for using a base coat, clear coat (BB/CC) finish on your hot rod, and if so, why?

To me, a clear coat finish on a hot rod looks about like a whore in a girl scout dress! Nothing close to ''traditional'' & kinda ''poser-like''! Yeah, great for fucking Cameros and street rods, but hot rods, uh, no! Too, all clear coat finishes lacquer, acrylic, epoxy & urethane, will one day have ''ultraviolet light decomposition problems''. When a single stage finish begins to age you can cut/buff back the dead finish and wax for a shine. When a BB/CC finish, more correctly the clear coat takes a shit, you're lookin' a a complete refinish.
Once upon a time, we use to call the Nason line of paint "Used Car Paint". It was a cheap alkyd enamel, but we'd take Ditzler's (now PPG) Delstar urethane crosslinker , and knock up the mix to produce a very cheap, but very durable mutant urethane. I think Nason is now owned by Dupont, and probably not even the same product it was 25-30 yrs. ago, but some like it still. If you're runnin' low on dough, somethin to think 'bout.
Yeah, it don't have the "snob appeal'' of some of the ''euro-trash'' brands of paint, or HOK, but will not kick the shit out of your build budget either!
Jus' somethin' else to think over-

Swanky Devils C.C.
" Meanwhyle, back aboard The Tainted Pork"


Great thread Scott, I love when Pimpin (Hi Rex) start's talking about paint !! Lot's to learn brother !!
Rob

Goozgaz
10-27-2009, 08:13 PM
a clear coat finish on a hot rod looks about like a whore in a girl scout dress!


There's a T-Shirt waiting to get printed with this gem!!!!

pimpin paint
10-27-2009, 08:28 PM
Okay... quit holding back! Speak up! Single stage paints. Ready.....

... GO!

Hey,

Thanks for the tip of the fedora guys, but jus' about everything I ever learned about paint was learned by accident! I don't think I ever read a tech sheet prior to 1985!

The addition of clear into the last 1-2 coats of a paint job was pretty much a standard back when acrylic enamel had its' day in the sun. If you jus' shot a fat coat of clear or two over the last of the colour coats, as the manfacturer stated, you had a great gloss, but not a very long lived paint job! The sun just ate the clear up, and most guys would get cute and over reduce the last couple coats to get great flow, which was the kiss of death to an enamel job. Too, they'd coloursand the job , jus' like guys do with urethane today, and open up the already marginal acrylic resins in the colour and clear coats to attack by oxygen! As a result, if you had an acrylic enamel job that lasted longer than 5 years (light & medium based finishes) you'd cheated the hangman!

Today's single stage urethanes offer great performance and bang for the buck, and don't require a lot of skill to shoot. The addition of a heavy clear coat on most jobs jus' looks like a homely woman with too much make up on to me!

I can't tell ya anything 'bout "Tree-Hugger Kool-Aid'' (waterborn) paint products for use on your project, as when this shit pushes all the other paint finishes off the stage, at gun point, I'll be hangin' out in front of the mission with all the other ''retired" painters.

Swanky Devils C.C.
" The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt ''

DOugG
10-27-2009, 09:18 PM
I just order some epoxy primer from SPI and they are shipping it FREE.
The owner of the Co. is a great down to earth guy and will answer any kind of paint question you have even if its not his product. How often would you find that? I sat in a seminar that he put on and he is quite the chemist.
7-day tech support 404 307 9740
Corp headquarters 706 781 2220

When was the last time you could call a large Co. on Sunday

scootermcrad
10-27-2009, 10:13 PM
Haha, you need to change the title of this thread! :D
HAHA!! DONE!! You are right!!

The addition of clear into the last 1-2 coats of a paint job was pretty much a standard back when acrylic enamel had its' day in the sun. If you jus' shot a fat coat of clear or two over the last of the colour coats, as the manfacturer stated, you had a great gloss, but not a very long lived paint job! The sun just ate the clear up, and most guys would get cute and over reduce the last couple coats to get great flow, which was the kiss of death to an enamel job. Too, they'd coloursand the job , jus' like guys do with urethane today, and open up the already marginal acrylic resins in the colour and clear coats to attack by oxygen! As a result, if you had an acrylic enamel job that lasted longer than 5 years (light & medium based finishes) you'd cheated the hangman!

Today's single stage urethanes offer great performance and bang for the buck, and don't require a lot of skill to shoot. The addition of a heavy clear coat on most jobs jus' looks like a homely woman with too much make up on to me!

I can't tell ya anything 'bout "Tree-Hugger Kool-Aid'' (waterborn) paint products for use on your project, as when this shit pushes all the other paint finishes off the stage, at gun point, I'll be hangin' out in front of the mission with all the other ''retired" painters.


Awesome!!!!! This is great stuff!

I just order some epoxy primer from SPI and they are shipping it FREE.
The owner of the Co. is a great down to earth guy and will answer any kind of paint question you have even if its not his product. How often would you find that? I sat in a seminar that he put on and he is quite the chemist.
7-day tech support 404 307 9740
Corp headquarters 706 781 2220

When was the last time you could call a large Co. on Sunday

WOW! That is seriously INCREDIBLE!! Wow!! Going to be taking a close look at them for those reasons ALONE!!

Seriously guys! This is awesome information!! So much to learn and this is a great start!! Fantastic thread! Didn't mean to venture off primers, but I like where this has gone!!

K13
10-27-2009, 11:21 PM
For the paint guys would there be a way to replicate the look they did on customs (adding the gold powder to the paint) back in the day with the single stage paint tricks you guys are talking about?

Unibodyguy
10-28-2009, 12:03 AM
I'll tell you what this sure answered a lot of my primer questions for upcoming projects. Excellent thread!!

Michael

X38
10-28-2009, 02:29 AM
I love paint threads. And when I was in a shop the other day buying some single stage Standox, I saw a wall of lacquer and thought "ohhh lacquer, maybe I will use that after all for the sloper, while can still get it?"

pimpin paint
10-28-2009, 10:06 PM
For the paint guys would there be a way to replicate the look they did on customs (adding the gold powder to the paint) back in the day with the single stage paint tricks you guys are talking about?

I'd suggest that you mix your powder with alittle clear and colour just as you would add a pearl to a clear. If you were to jus' shoot the powder over the last colour coat, I'd think it would jus' look like overspray! Go light on the clear, however! Be sure to pick a hardener that will fly with both your base urethane & clear, or this trick won't work!

Swanky Devils C.C.
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