View Full Version : Gene Mooneyham ..HA/GR engine and trans with history
Hey guys, this looks like a perfect motor and trans for someone, wanting to build.
$2500 for a genuine piece of drag racing history and it fits all our parameters....
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/pts/1328236574.html
The add begins like this
i am in posession of Gene's dodge 230 inch flat head six engine which is still mated to his original 3spd manual in a modular design complete with clutch pedal (mechanical) and brake pedal(juice) the emergency brake is also there, has ikenderian camshaft, offenhauser dual carb manifold and dual chrysler carburetors, mallory dual point distributor, head is shaved ..080 for 9.1:1 compression, full port polish, complete from carbs to pan, fan to tailshaft, drop this is in a belly tank or track t roadster, the same engine that he raced in los angeles in the late fortys and early fiftys when he was a teenager/ young adult, this is the engine in his highschool rod that was the foundation of his career in the sport, rebuilt and retired by the man himself he was the last one to freshen it up, he is the only person who has put a wrench or socket to this engine, it is in the exact format as he left it, for those of you who dont know who he is here is a brief summary.
I AM ALSO INTERESTED IN A STRAIGHT TRADE FOR AN IRONHEAD CHOP OR BUELL FIREBOLT
Gene Mooneyham
No interest ? Wierd, if I lived in the USA I would probably just go and get the thing..then again I am a sucker for flatheads......... and I don't own a Dodge flathead at the moment.
I do have a Mooneyham blower on the funny car and I have to say it is a work of art.
Old6rodder
08-22-2009, 02:33 AM
No lack of interest, simple lack of coinage. :(
I have an auxilliary tank that'd be exactly what I want for as an LSR buggy but ...... insufficient sheckles.
Rodhotz
08-22-2009, 04:01 AM
Where is the proof it was his? the thing is a truck motor also with the truck bellhousing/ pedal set up, i am calling bs on this one.
Oh yeh it has an alternator on it also.
Where is the proof it was his? the thing is a truck motor also with the truck bellhousing/ pedal set up, i am calling bs on this one.
Oh yeh it has an alternator on it also.
There you go then, I don't think like that about people selling stuff like this, I mean why doubt them without looking???
I would go look , and check out what I could about it, and I guess ask for some documentation.. He must have a reason for saying it is Gene Mooneyham's motor......
In any case if all that work has been done to the motor and it is all there the price can't be all that bad compared to some prices I have seen quoted for building a motor for HA/GR. Alternators have been around since the 60s so I guess it wouldn't have been hard to imagine someone
"upgradeing" either.
Have you been to see it? or got some pics??? Talked to the guy about it??? I am 7000 miles away so it is pointless for me.
nexxussian
08-22-2009, 10:54 AM
That's what I was wondering, if it's something 'famous' why post the add with no pics?:confused:
Probably doesn't have grandkids to teach him how to post pics.:D
Rodhotz
08-22-2009, 02:17 PM
here ya go with pics, read his answer someone asked. there ya go. if someone posts about a famous deal have proof of it not tell people to call someone else. the alt would have been put on after he stop'd racing.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/flathead-l6-dodge-hall-of-fame-drag-race-mooneyham_W0QQitemZ170374226260QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item27ab18 6154&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245
64 DODGE 440
08-22-2009, 02:19 PM
Gene did have an early Dodge Pick Up that he put a blown hemi in, the engine may have come out of that truck.
Not saying it did, but that could explain it.
Regardless of it's history, if it is mechanically sound, the parts are worth the price.
If I had the extra cash laying around, it would find a home in my garage.:D
Rodhotz
08-22-2009, 02:46 PM
For that price you can have mine, it has all the same parts and more! look at my sig pic.
gwhite
08-22-2009, 06:30 PM
We discussed this over on the P15-D24 board...the code off the motor (T575347) indicates 37-38 Dodge Truck...A look at his past ebay auctions also shows that he's sold various parts off 37-38 Dodge trucks. Coincidence? Maybe...or maybe not.
Also looks like a 201 motor, so some work would need to be done to bump it up to a 230 (plus, IIRC, 201 had smaller valves than the later 218/230's.)
nexxussian
08-23-2009, 09:46 PM
Did anybody get to see the Ebay add?
I just tried it and said the item was removed.
What'd he say for why no pics before? (no camrea, no kids, 'fraid of scammers??)
POSSESSED1
10-02-2009, 08:22 PM
Alright everyone- just to suffocate anybody's question and concern about the flathead.
I bought it from gene of moon speed equipment (mooneyes) who is now retired due to a back injury.
when i purchased the engine i didnt even have a project to put it in, just thought it was one of one and super cool !
after i purchased it i also purchased a 36 cab from montana-
a chassis and frame from chula vista ca- which had a few parts on it i didnt need ( ebay )
and a bed from indiana
and a shroud from kansas
after realizing the ridiculous amount of money random odds and ends of dodge plymouth parts are worth, i then found a 47 car motor complete rebuilt with 3speed column shift trans- i bought that engine just to part out and make a few bucks ( more ebay auctions ) now as far as the engine of the late great mooneyham is concerned, call bullshit to my face after looking at the motor in person, as far as pics go, the ad on craigslist didnt have any cause i have about 50 and theyre all too big to fit on the site, and who buying it wouldnt come to see it anyways, thanks for the interest its all good publicity- yours truly:cool:
POSSESSED1
10-02-2009, 08:47 PM
additionally gene kept this motor his whole life, never parted with it.
i called mooneyham blowers and they offered to patch me through to his wife dorothy however i didnt have the stomache to ask his widow about an old motor as his passing was recent.
as far as the truck transmission goes, it would only make sense since car trannys were column shift.
and if i was 15 years old in the fortys i wouldnt mind if my race motor i was going to build anyways was from a car or a truck, so who know's why? not to mention if it was there it was there the motors are the same just a t in the engine i.d. number
Whell I guess that settles that then doesn't it, so much for the naysayers. Now someone build a real historic car with it........please!!!
nexxussian
10-06-2009, 09:43 AM
It certainly looks good, expecially the bores.
dart165
10-08-2009, 10:04 AM
Just came across the ad on CL. he's only asking $1600 for it as of recently.
Hell, i have almost half that much in my intake/exhaust set up on my 54, and internally mine's a stock motor with about as much race history as the car it's in ...none.
Someone should pick that up, and run it.
POSSESSED1
10-10-2009, 02:54 PM
titstrue 1600 including a complete felpro gasket set unopened in box
cost me another 150 i paid more for the motor then this also, not that you ever get your money out of cars ever, for thats not the point, however i am losing money on this deal, just simply have bills to pay, suxxx, i thought i would never sell this ever ever, just dont have any more options, p.s. its in vegas not dago
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