Quickie T5/Chevy question.

[Mart]

So, here's a quickie.
Will a Chevy T5 from a 83 S10 pickup with a 2.8 V6 bolt up to a 283 V8???
Any responses apreciated.
Mart.

[Foul]

Nope. 2.8L V6 is 60 degrees, SBC V-8 is 90 degrees. get a 90-degree bellhousing and it should bolt up, though.
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[dixiedog]

I would guess using a SBC bellhousing it should, the only T-5 that I know is really different is the mid 80's Camaro as their bolt pattern is leaned offsetabout 7* or 17*

[hotrodsnguns]

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I would guess using a SBC bellhousing it should, the only T-5 that I know is really different is the mid 80's Camaro as their bolt pattern is leaned offsetabout 7* or 17*

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Actually the bolt pattern on the t5 out of the camaros is the same as every other t5. It is the bell housing that is offset. I have one in my chevy pu had to make a funny rear trans brack because that was ofset but the front bolt pattern is the same. The t5 will bolt up to the v8 bellhousing.

[dixiedog]

Thanks hotrodsnguns, now I remember those offset bellhousings bring decent money to the Camaro crowd. Isn't there a difference in the splines & where the shifter is on T5's?

[sgary]

Ther are 2 types of T5 trans, world class in V8 cars and non-world class,in smaller engine vehicles.The worldclass is much stronger to handle the extra HP.There is s site on the net you can buy high performance parts and get info.
I can't recall the name.They used their T5 in a V12 Jaguar
racer.Your T5 should have a tag on it.It will tell the type.
Hope this helps.Sold my T5 to a guy who puts sbc's in MG's

[TagMan]

Try these sites.....

http://www.5speeds.com/t5/index.html

http://www.inliners.org/Jack/t5_page.html

[humanpackmule]

S10 - s15- Blazer T5s have the shifter at the front of the tailshaft and camaros have the shifter at the end.

Splines are either 26 or 14 (I think)

Depending on what kind of body and if you are running a bench seat the camaro t5 might put the shifter in the seat.

If anyone has a V6 S10 T5 floating around let me know.

[Flat Ernie]

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Ther are 2 types of T5 trans, world class in V8 cars and non-world class,in smaller engine vehicles.The worldclass is much stronger to handle the extra HP.

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There are two types - WC & NWC - that much is true. However, the switch has little to do with the size of the engine. The WC was a model-year switch, not an engine switch. The various T5s gain their torque ratings by their gearsets, not WC/NWC (which has more to do with synchro blocker rings than anything else). As a rule of thumb, the higher the first gear ratio (lower numerically), the stronger the tranny. There were one or two aftermarket sets that were manufactured with a different alloy in the gearset & gained an additional few lb/ft torque rating. I think the strongest T5 is 335lb/ft torque rating...

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[voodoo]

I'm running a Camaro box with a S-10 tailshaft in my '55. I used the stock cast iron bellhousing. I had to order a 10 1/2" disc to match my flywheel. Other than that it was a bolt on.

[hotrodsnguns]

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Thanks hotrodsnguns, now I remember those offset bellhousings bring decent money to the Camaro crowd. Isn't there a difference in the splines & where the shifter is on T5's?

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Two different splines for the clutch rear spline are all the same. I have a nwc in my truck behind a mild sbc 383. It has worked well for the last 3 years. Wanted the lower first for pulling my boat out of the water. I do not dump the clutch though.

[Flat Ernie]

Here's some more info:

S-10 T-5 Question (http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=586841&Forum=U BB1&Words=Flat%20Ernie&Match=Username&Searchpage=0 &Limit=200&Old=allposts&Main=586314&Search=true#Po st586841)

T5 Info (http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=485917&Forum=U BB1&Words=flat%20ernie&Match=Username&Searchpage=3 &Limit=100&Old=1year&Main=442328&Search=true#Post4 85917)

To specifically answer your question, Mart, YES. You just need the SBC bellhousing. The only one I know of off the top of my head is the F-body (Camaro/Firebird) bellhousing which, as has been mentioned here already, cants the tranny about 20* or so.

Will it live behind a SBC? Depends. If that's an original tranny, it will be NWC (WC didn't happen 'til '85 or so) & quite low torque rating (165lb/ft if memory serves). You will likely kill the 3rd gear first, closely followed by 2nd! 3rd & 5th are known weak points in the T5. But it should be good enough to get you set up where you want to be - you can always change the gearset/tranny later...

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[hotrodsnguns]

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Here's some more info:

S-10 T-5 Question (http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=586841&Forum=U BB1&Words=Flat%20Ernie&Match=Username&Searchpage=0 &Limit=200&Old=allposts&Main=586314&Search=true#Po st586841)

T5 Info (http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=485917&Forum=U BB1&Words=flat%20ernie&Match=Username&Searchpage=3 &Limit=100&Old=1year&Main=442328&Search=true#Post4 85917)

To specifically answer your question, Mart, YES. You just need the SBC bellhousing. The only one I know of off the top of my head is the F-body (Camaro/Firebird) bellhousing which, as has been mentioned here already, cants the tranny about 20* or so.

Will it live behind a SBC? Depends. If that's an original tranny, it will be NWC (WC didn't happen 'til '85 or so) & quite low torque rating (165lb/ft if memory serves). You will likely kill the 3rd gear first, closely followed by 2nd! 3rd & 5th are known weak points in the T5. But it should be good enough to get you set up where you want to be - you can always change the gearset/tranny later...

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What you DO NOT want is the F body bell housing use any sbc bell housing except the f body you do not wnat the tranny cannted put in in straight. This works so much better. And it will live i have had mine for 3 years now behind a mild 383.

[Flat Ernie]

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What you DO NOT want is the F body bell housing use any sbc bell housing except the f body

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Wasn't suggesting he use it - only that was the only SBC/T5 bellhousing I was aware of. What application came with SBC & T5 besides F-body? Forgive my GM ignorance - I'm a Ford guy. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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[hotrodsnguns]

Chevy is not like ford they only have one bellhousing to tranny bolt pattern. Problem with the f body is the canted location. My 86 tranny is mated to a 70 bellhousing.

[Flat Ernie]

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Chevy is not like ford

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Yes - thank gawd! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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they only have one bellhousing to tranny bolt pattern.

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Really - so any chevy manual trans will bolt to any chevy bellhousing? Forgive my incredulousness... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

If true, where's the fun in that?! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


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[earl schieb]

Just so Flat Ernie won't look stoopid, I'll open my yap http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

If you DON'T use the canted/T5/F-body bellhousing, then you don't/can't use a hydraulic clutch, right? So then which clutch/pressure plate set-up works?
And is the only problem with the canted set-up the trans mount being at an odd angle? Seems like that could be overcome with some x-member modification... The hyd clutch sounds good when ya don't have any of the z-bar linkage layin around http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Who knows the answer? I'm just a hack bodyman/fabricator, not a mechanic http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif Sure would like to have 3 pedals and an OD in my 59 El Camino.......

mid-tenn mike

[Flat Ernie]

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Just so Flat Ernie won't look stoopid

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WAY too late for that! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Seems like the canted tranny wouldn't pose much of a bother anyway...

I've got a hydraulic clutch in my '33! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif ('course it's a Rover V8...)

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[hotrodsnguns]

If you DON'T use the canted/T5/F-body bellhousing, then you don't/can't use a hydraulic clutch, right? So then which clutch/pressure plate set-up works?
And is the only problem with the canted set-up the trans mount being at an odd angle? Seems like that could be overcome with some x-member modification... The hyd clutch sounds good when ya don't have any of the z-bar linkage layin around http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Who knows the answer? I'm just a hack bodyman/fabricator, not a mechanic http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif Sure would like to have 3 pedals and an OD in my 59 El Camino.......

mid-tenn mike

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The pressure plate is determined by the flywheel you use most chevy clutchs are the same, get one to fit your flysheel. The clutch disk is the one that fits the tranny you are using. Mine is an 83 CMC astro van it fits the imput shaft and is the same size as my pressure plate. To use a hyd. clutch you can fab. a bracket or use the cool hyd throw out bearning a lot of the hot rod guys are using.