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fatabone
12-07-2004, 09:38 PM
I know this may seem stupid but does it matter if the bar comes from the drivers or passenger side of the frame to the rear? Someone told me if it came from the drivers side it could cause wheel hop. Is this true?
Thanks Jr.
Unkl Ian
12-07-2004, 09:42 PM
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Is this true?
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No.
Panhard bar determines the roll center,which influences weight transfer and body roll.
fatabone
12-07-2004, 09:46 PM
Thanks Unkl Ian
metalshapes
12-07-2004, 09:51 PM
What Unkl said...
The roll center heights on the front and rear axle, and how they are in relation to each other is a big factor in how the car will handle. ( under- or oversteer )
I chose to have the Panhard bar on my car a lot lower than what you would normally see on Panhard bar Kits for Hot Rods. ( for a lower Rollcenter in the rear.)
Also it is very important to make the Panhard Bar itself as long as possible, and level at ride height.
Automotive Stud
12-07-2004, 11:03 PM
I don't know if it would actually cause wheel hop, but I think the passenger side of the frame is the preferred mounting point. My 47 ford has a factory bar on the rear mounted to the passenger side. Also, whenever the spare or battery is mounted in the trunk it is preferred to put it over the passenger side to minimize wheel hop, so although you may never see the difference I can see the reasoning behind it.
BELLM
12-07-2004, 11:24 PM
Also I think the front & rear panhard bar should be mounted on the same side.
Hackerbilt
12-07-2004, 11:52 PM
Which would mean both should be mounted to the DRIVERS side because the front one needs to attach to the same side as the steering box in a crosssteer configuration.
Might not matter in a draglink configuration...but I'd mount it there anyway 'cause I'm old, stubborn and set in my ways. Grrr... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
briggs&strattonChev
12-08-2004, 12:57 AM
well im gonna sound like a jackass, but ive wondered for quite some time
WTF IS A PANHARD BAR?!?!
im sure id recognize it and know the part, just have never known the name
help me or harass me, its ok
Hackerbilt
12-08-2004, 01:15 AM
It's a link that controls side to side movement of an axle.
Some suspension configurations require it, some use it for tuning purposes and others have no need of it at all due to the stability of the basic suspension design.
One end is attached to the frame and the other to the axle.
It's height helps determines the roll center of the vehicle as well but most people just mount it where it fits best and can run parallel to the ground. If it were mounted at an extreme up/down angle you would feel it kinda push the car body sideways a little on larger bumps.
briggs&strattonChev
12-08-2004, 01:35 AM
thanks alot hacker, I know what you mean
Automotive Stud
12-08-2004, 09:19 AM
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Also I think the front & rear panhard bar should be mounted on the same side.
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On my 47 ford the front bar is mounted to the drivers side and the rear is on the passanger side. That's the way ford did it.
Panhard Bar Tech Article (http://www.rpmnet.com/techart/panhard.shtml)
Note that the article talks about circle burners, but the info is usable on the street.
Cross-steer installs have the front frame bracket mounted on the same side of the chassis as the steering box is mounted and Panhard Bar angle, height etc. parallels as closely as possible/practical the angle, length and height of the draglink.
As well as is parallel with the drag link - which should be parallel with the tie rod - when viewed from above.
You'll note in pics of right hand steer cars (Australia, UK etc.) the Panhards chassis mount is on the right side.
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