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Flathead help

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by oldspeed, Nov 29, 2004.

  1. oldspeed
    Joined: Sep 14, 2004
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    from Upstate NY

    Well after looking for some time now I finally find a flathead ford motor right under my nose. The story is it was running 10 years ago when the truck was stored. It is a 38 1 ton with a 49 ford V8. The guy wants $100 for the motor and tranny. OK I was all excited but a friend of mine said make sure it's not a lincoln motor cause that's what was in 1 ton trucks. What do I look for and how do I tell the differance. Thanks, Jon.
     
  2. Deuce Rails
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  3. Petejoe
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    The quickest way would be to check out if the dizzy is mounted in the back like a GM smallblock would be.
    Only the truck and Lincoln engines are like this.
    Here's your link. PJ
    macs site
     
  4. oldspeed
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    Thanks guys with your help I'm sure I can tell the differance between the two.
     

  5. mtflat
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    The big flathead was only used in the 2 1/2 and 3 ton trucks (F7/8) All the smaller ones used the std 239 flatty.
     
  6. oldspeed
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    Armed with all this information I found out the guy selling it has no idea what he has. It is a 1937 or 38 and I bought it. Thanks again for all the help and now for the start of flathead fever, all I need now is a new car project to put it in. Jon.
     
  7. Petejoe
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    37 has 21 head bolts and 38's have 24 studs.
    I don't know of its intended use but I hope for your sake its a 38 block. Alot more speed parts available for them and you pay through the nose for anything that fits a 21 studder. No one makes aftermarket heads for 21 studs. At least affordable heads.
     
  8. oldspeed
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    Well I guess I've made the mistake, after further review like the football fans, I have found this is a 36 0r 37 21 stud waterpump in the head. So is this worthless or only good to a restorer.
     
  9. rodrelic
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    I use em, wish I had more. Nothing wrong with 85 hp in a light hot rod, or more accurately warm stick. Will buy or trade for it if you don't want it.
     
  10. Flat Ernie
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    Somewhere during that time (37?) they went to insert bearings - if it's an early one (and original), it may have babbit bearings...

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Deuce Rails
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Well I guess I've made the mistake, after further review like the football fans, I have found this is a 36 0r 37 21 stud waterpump in the head. So is this worthless or only good to a restorer.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    The 36 has the water pumps mounted in the heads, while the 37 has them mounted in the blocks.

    If yours is a 36, I might be interested in it. Where in upstate NY are you?

    --Matt
     
  12. oldspeed
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    from Upstate NY

    South of Utica, north of Binghamton right in the middle and it appears to be a thirty six but what do I know, will know more this coming weekend. But it is complete from carb to oilpan.
     

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