New Strombergs??

[Bruce Lancaster]

Look at this:

http://www.stromberg-97.com/stromberg97.htm

What's up? Anyone know who these people are and whether there is evidence they are actually getting someplace with this?

[Steve]

that is the first I heard of it. But damn that would be pretty cool. maybe it will lower the price of cores too

[12packo94s]

never seen it befor but i did e-mail them some questions, so hopefully i can find out a little more

good idea if they can pull it off and not charge some ungodly figure for them

[Petejoe]

Cool, but I can imagine the cost needed to recoup the tooling and design efforts. thanks for sharing.

[lucky_1974]

Hope it is true that they will be available early 2004 might make the price of the old ones go down since the gold chainers will just want to spend the cash and get new ones rather than fuss with an old one. So you might as well just sell me your 97's for $10 a piece since they will not be worth anything by spring http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif...

[Darwin]

It'll be a miracle if they're less than $300 a pop.

[Jeff Norwell]

I wanna get some of there kool clothing to wear with my new Von Dutch outfit!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Steve]

well I got a reply. looks like they're gonna be expensive

Hi Steve,

Thanks for your interest.

We’re aiming at $495 for the stock-type Stromberg 97 – with a little more once you get into polished stainless linkages and chromed bodies etc. I wish I could say lower but these things aren’t like a new 4-barrel – they have something like 60 parts in them and we’re making them exact – like really exact - to the original.

The tooling up is coming along real good and we have virtually everything sorted out now except the airhorn and bowl castings and the small forged throttle levers. These are all proving tricky – not just getting them exact to the original but getting people with the old-style die-casting capabilities. And we’re trying to do it without going to the Far East too. We’ll get there though.

I’ll definitely keep you posted when things are ready.

Thanks again!

Clive Prew
Stromberg Carburetor

[12packo94s]

yup that's the same response i got,, other then if you wanted to buy like 6 something about sending his sister to deliver them wearing a pink ribbon!!!!!

[LIMEY]

& high tech gaskets with no leaks.....but i like that leaky used look! seriously though do they think there's a market for them at that price! i think the guys with the money would prefer those dummy bodies with injection.

[MBL]

Yeah thats too expensive....It kinda makes you wonder how they plan on selling enough of them at that price to make it affordable....you can still find them....and the rebuild kits are cheap enough...way too much.
Tim
MBL

[modernbeat]

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and we have virtually everything sorted out now except the airhorn and bowl castings and the small forged throttle levers

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That means that they've been able to cast and machine a carb base, and either punch, lathe, or source all the other parts. The parts they list as the ones that still need development are the only really difficult parts to make!

Is this on the level? It smacks of graphic design school project.

[Bruce Lancaster]

I didn't take it as a good sign that they're discussing their new line of Stromberg clothing before they have made the basic body casting...
On the price, check out current NAPA list prices for ordinary rebuilt dirtbag two-barrels for obsolete '70's applications--that price isn't high in the modern world.
Still, I guess that's why I don't live in the modern world, and whine a lot about anything that costs more than $20.00....

[Kevin Lee]

Might seem expensive at first but stop and think for a moment. You're not dealing with some unknown jagoff's "rebuild". You're not dealing with stripped threads, trashed machine screws or worn bushings. You're not buying a core or something that is good for parts. Sounds like they are tooling up to produce what would be essentially NOS Strombergs. Wonder when they will really be available? Right now I am trying to gather funds for two - from 97 heaven - to go on the top of my flathead.

Maybe the rebuilding part isn't so bad. I don't know - I've never had one in my mitts. Wonder what this will do to the few reputable places that are doing quality rebuilds on 97s?

I just like seeing someone step up with the stones to actually reproduce a product that is for the most part long gone. A prime example is the "New Drop" axle. More a service than a part but you know what I mean. And say what you want about Coker but they make bias plys available for us. Now if we could just see something from that guy who sells all of the E&J shirts. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Edit: Just read modernbeat's post....and Bruce's. Didn't realize there might be a possibility of them being just another clothing retailer that promises a product in the near future....I hope they aren't.

[Darwin]

A price of $500 is not gonna make gennie Strombergs any cheaper and it might even have the opposite effect. At $500 they'll sell maybe a few hundred. At $250 they could sell thousands. Jeez 'ya don't have to amortize the tooling costs in the first few hundred units. Spread it out a little and let those of us shy on gold chains in on the deal.

[Smokin Joe]

Who figured Mullens & Flaming River would get hundreds for a vega box.
I saw 97's by the dozen at the CHRR swap 2 years ago. Most of those with pieces missing or bent up they were asking 100 bucks.
They wanted 150 for the complete rebuildable ones. E-Bay has really screwed us. How many street rodders you think pick up 3 cores at 150 each then ship them to be rebuilt for another 150 each plus parts without even blinking. Even more will shell out a couple grand for a complete 3 deuces setup with linkage on a polished manifold that they can just have someone like Motor City Flathead bolt on and go. These things will sell like hotcakes. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[MBL]

Almost 500 bucks seems expensive to me for a carb. But I hadn't paid anything for either of my 97's. Rebuilding seems to be realistic and cheap in many cases and way cheaper. I haven't really had any experience with running 97's but I don't really know of anyone complaining about thier rebuilt ones. I think there is sill enough of the originals out there in usable condition....
Tim
MBL

[Missing Link]

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Maybe the rebuilding part isn't so bad. I don't know - I've never had one in my mitts.

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Grimlock, if I can do it anyone can, seriously. First rebuild with the 97's happened a few months ago and it isn't bad.

I would rather spend $50.00 for two rebuild kits than $1000.00 for two "new" 97's is this some sort of joke? An adverse affect will ensue and drive the price of my 97's way up to like $600.00 each on e-Pay. That's when I sell them and build another car http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[CTFuzz]

Amen................


CT.

[burger]

They would have to be that expensive. I'm suprised they're not more.

Think about it -- if a new Holley 4160 costs almost $300, and they sell thousands each year, how could a low production carburetor, albeit with less parts, cost anything less than three times the price? Most foundries wont touch anything less than 100 pieces, and even then they're going to charge you so much you may as well have bought 250 just to bring the unit cost down. Then you have to find someone to machine the castings. That's a whole other adventure. What about the little parts like linkages that aren't already being re-popped?

[four-thirteen]

I figured something like this might happen sooner or later. If they do it and they are "correct", that is, aren't just some modern part made to look like a stromberg, then great. $500 for a ready to bolt on stromberg is pretty cheap. Like joe said, they'll pay plently for old carbs, then plently more for rebuild, and in the end have $300-$400 each into them, and soon you can buy a new one for $500? I know plenty of people that really like to say "I'd rather buy something new than mess around". The market is there. Dave

[gregg]

The road I travel when building my cars is the "rebuild,reuse,restore" route. Not that there's not a market for OTS stuff, but I'd rather tinker & do it my way (and maybe save some $$$, too). ***DISCLAIMER*** This is not spam for any rebuild co. but I think I can guess what the dinner time talk will be about tonight!

[MBL]

I am used to being wrong about everything so this doesn't faze me.
Tim
MBL

[hankcash]

I am currently running a 94 on my shoebox, but I have been thinking of stepping up to a 97 or a 98.... you know, whatever it takes.


HC

[PEDDRO]

In the end, it's STILL an OLD inefficient carb...just a new version!

Rebuild the old ones boys.

[Dat Dirty Rat]

Well,,its one of those situations where if you want one bad enough,,your gonna to pay. They are selling something that is in demand. Like repop fiesta caps,,what are they 450 or something?..yeah 500 is alot for one carb and as far as I'm concerned there are plenty more original ones out there!
We just have to continue to keep our eyes open....Dirty

Anybody have any they are willing to part with? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Just checking!

[CadillacKid]

Hey, new ones would be great, cuz then we wouldn't hafta mess with tryin fix broken carb housings and shit like that....I don't know...I'm quite familiar with the old ones....here's the set-up that's goin on the model A (it's for a cadillac mill) It'd be nice to see tem start making 'em again...and their price sure beats the price of those damn throttle body look-a-likes! Moon was advertising a Chevy tri-power version of this starting at $3699. Yep you read that right....pretty goddamn ridiculous...Tri-power with the new 97's would only be about $1800 or so once you got an intke, lines, and linkage....just something to ponder....