hamb guys not paying up on classifieds

[dragrcr50]

no names but , i have had in two months 5 hamb guys make a deal to buy my two stromberg carbs via pm or email or both and two had the check in the mail (not)and three just never answered anything at all .. i had two prior that let me know they changed their minds too. This is a all to often deal for me seems on here. whats the deal, just don't understand this attitude... dr50:cool:

[turboroadster]

look for their join date and post count, can tell the straght up folks usually by that alone. Do they contribute to the board?

[porkshop]

How about the other side of the coin. I paid for something then get no comunication and they wont return a call. Also they havnt been on here. I got a feeling Im out 100.00.....JOHN

[T-Bone]

I'm still waiting on the $20 promised to me by Lucky for the 56 Chevy A-Pillars I sent him a year ago...I wasn't even making money on the deal, just covering my out of pocket expenses to help a guy in a tough spot.

[JeffB2]

For the most part thats' not been a problem for me,if you have more than one person wanting the same part that can be an issue.I tell them the "first one to pay,gets the deal" and state in your ad paypal or money order accepted,I always like to ship "signature required" and pm them a tracking number as soon as you ship the item.Some folks do need to practice a little common courtesy and let us know if they change their minds or they are short on bucks and can't finish the deal ASAP in fairness to other buyers.

[choppintops]

I get buyers calling "dibs" and then no comunication. Even have one right now called dibs on something that was listed with shipping included so he knew beforehand what it would be, then asked to send a money order, I gave him my address. After 2 weeks or so writes me asking for a paypal address so he could "just do that instead", been several days, nothing.

Not much you can do other then just block them so they can't pester you anymore.

[ryno]

maybe just deal with alliance members

[Little Wing]

I'm guilty have 2 I need to tend to,,was the getting to the post office to get a MO that kept being the problem ( and remembering to go ),,but then found out I could pay with PP ). Wish that had been to option in the beginning lol

on the other side waiting on 5 who wanted something ,,

[Cajun Kenny]

what about sellers? i have ran across a few folks selling theirs goods but refuse to take paypal , now i dont really have a problem with that other than i work offshore (no mail boxes)and getting money orders aint gonna happen for me out here either, but once this fact is established more than one person has acted like i was out to fuck them on payment or the fee from paypal! i will pay the paypal fee thats not a problem but if their very existance is teattering on $3 fuckin dollars and want to treat me like a thief they can shove their goods up thier ass.. in for a penny out for a pound!

for the most part most of my purchases have been good ones and i have recieved some excellent stuff from some great folks ..

[SlamCouver]

"How about the other side of the coin. I paid for something then get no comunication and they wont return a call. Also they havnt been on here. I got a feeling Im out 100.00.....JOHN"

Nope. your gonna get your part.

[SlamCouver]

"maybe just deal with alliance members "

Also NOPE! any asshole can shell out 50 bucks to get a discount on coker tires.

[saltflatmatt]

I put up 3 ads in the classifieds for some leftover headers and intakes from vending at the round up. In 2 days I pretty much had half of it sold. Ad's said pay pal or call me with credit card number I can run it through my shop & alliance member got free shipping. Not one of the buyers responded after saying they will take it.... I may take shit for this but I deleted all the ads and put the stuff on eBay for more money than the classified ads. It's disappointing that guys wast sellers time. Don't get me wrong, its a free ad, but if your not going to follow through..............

[BloodyKnuckles]

I like the idea of using just Alliance Members but in reality just because you pay $50 doesn't make you a stand up person. You can join up with very little post count.

Personally, I think you need to be smart with the entire process. Think of all the possible out comes and prepare properly.

I hate to hear people getting screwed or just screwing with others. Not cool.



BloodyKnuckles

[Harrison]

It's a PITA I know, but at least you sellers still have your parts.

I sent $375 to Matt&Sarah in Texas & never saw the part. Never heard from them again. $375 gone......

I thought seriously about offering some fine Texan $100 to deliver $375 worth of whip-ass on my behalf. If I didn't want to do it so badly myself, I would have.

JH

[captainjunk#2]

i pm ed you on them and some one had been going to buy them so i pm ed another member and bought 3 97s from him , i try to treat folks the way i want to be treated , stinks when some one dont follow through on a deal

[Ratmotor]

I hear ya....apparently those much needed parts don,t seem to be that needed after all....

[tomcantdoit]

the first time i bought something on here i was scared. scared to send over 350 dollars to some guy i have never met and know that i might not see my parts or money again. as far as selling i have never send out an item until i get the money in my hand. and i usually pay more for shipping then what i quote the guy:D

[35Chevy.com]

I would only buy from alliance members, the next thing I would check is their posts. There are currently allot of items for sale by an FNG and 47 of his 49 posts are items for sale.

Perhaps some type of rule that would restrict classifieds meaningful contributers.

Gary

[Little Wing]

and i usually pay more for shipping then what i quote the guy:D



i hate that some how the online quote for shipping is always more when you go to send it,,lol

[G V Gordon]

I have done quite a few deals on the board. Glad to say all turned out OK. I have let a couple folks know that if they were'nt sure about me they were free to post on the board for references. Not sure if any of them did, but I am sure I would get a good review from the folks i have delt with.

[tomcantdoit]

i hate that some how the online quote for shipping is always more when you go to send it,,lol
yup i hate it too. but i dont mind it id rather have a happy person and usually im only out like 5 dollars or so

[Von Rigg Fink]

i hate that some how the online quote for shipping is always more when you go to send it,,lol


I have found this out too..

[rd martin]

been trying to talk to juniorsrodshop newbie, sold me a guaranteed 27 t lower windshield frame, guess what its not, wont answer emails or pms. only 130.00 im out, you try to treat people the right way. i have had a lot of good deals with alot of straight up guys, but you always get that one.

[Painter D]

It's a PITA I know, but at least you sellers still have your parts.

I sent $375 to Matt&Sarah in Texas & never saw the part. Never heard from them again. $375 gone......

I thought seriously about offering some fine Texan $100 to deliver $375 worth of whip-ass on my behalf. If I didn't want to do it so badly myself, I would have.

JH
What part of Texas? ;)

[tomcantdoit]

. only 130.00 im out. still alot of money thats almost enought to rebuild a 97:eek:

[skidmarks]

for the most part, buyers fallow through with the stuff i have sold here. funny that one complainer that they got stiffed on something they were selling stiffed me "great ill take it send me your address, and they were gone like a fart in the wind". as far as the shipping goes, i just round it off and latly ive been eating the difference but the people buying the parts are happy so that counts

[Cajun Kenny]

I have done quite a few deals on the board. Glad to say all turned out OK. I have let a couple folks know that if they were'nt sure about me they were free to post on the board for references. Not sure if any of them did, but I am sure I would get a good review from the folks i have delt with.
no complaints here GV!
as they would say on the fleaBay 100% positive feedback

[gearhead1952]

I've had a couple people sign up just to be able to PM me about my ad then blow me off...I don't get it why waste time signing up just to blow somebody off. I would say half the time I contact someone about their ad I get no response, lame.

I've found that post count is not a feedback rating.

[THR1LL3R]

I only buy from guys with cool avatars :D

[Corn Fed]

no names but , i have had in two months 5 hamb guys make a deal to buy my two stromberg carbs via pm or email or both and two had the check in the mail (not)and three just never answered anything at all .. i had two prior that let me know they changed their minds too. This is a all to often deal for me seems on here. whats the deal, just don't understand this attitude... dr50:cool:


HA HA HA. I just gotta laugh. I seem to remember some dude a few months ago posting a wanted ad for a 55-7 chevy wagon rear upper hatch. I responded. Dug the heavy sumbitch outta my rafters. Sent pics and a price. Dude says give him shipping costs. I figure costs, give the total to him. He says yes, he wants it bad and money will be sent right out. I wait. Wait some more. Wait even more. Nothing. After I send him a few PM's he responds he doesn't need it anymore. What a douche. Having been burned before on big things, I at least didn't box the damn thing up. On a side note, I just gave the damn hatch away 2 weeks ago at a swap meet because I didn't want to deal with ever having to ship it.

[hoof]

So far I haven't had a bad experience with a HAMB'er. I do check their time on the board and post count though. I just sold a bunch of stuff, and if they were a member in good standing I sent the items right away. I am not talking about high dollar stuff, or I think I would be a little more cautious.
CHAZ

[bobwop]

good luck all the way around for me. Knock wood.

[Befrank]

Guys, I don't think you can go by a persons post count,just like you can't go by post count to tell how smart a person is.I'm on here 3 or 4 times a day reading,after being on here awhile you get the feel of the people you can trust and who knows what they are talking about.I'm probly a FNG now but I was An alliance member.And will be again soon.

[fleetside66]

I haven't bought or sold too many items, but have had pretty good luck both ways..there has been a hiccup or two along the line. There has been something recently that got me a little ruffled, however..a FNG with 20 posts selling an item that he produces for over 10% more than he charges on Ebay. Kind of like a reverse HAMB discount.

[32 Barn Car]

"maybe just deal with alliance members "

Also NOPE! any asshole can shell out 50 bucks to get a discount on coker tires.

I did and it saved me $57.20 on the 2 tires I got last week + at the same time the $50 Alliance fee helps support this site . I think it's a real bargain! . This much entertainment is worth more than $50 to me.........Z.

[enjenjo]

I've had a couple people sign up just to be able to PM me about my ad then blow me off...I don't get it why waste time signing up just to blow somebody off. I would say half the time I contact someone about their ad I get no response, lame.

I've found that post count is not a feedback rating.

It happens to me more than half the time. I don't even get a FU.

Then you have the guys who want every car saved, and you put one for sale at scrap prices, with valid paperwork, and they don't want it. Their are two scrap yards less than 5 miles away, and both pay cash.

[1oldtimer]

any asshole can shell out 50 bucks to get a discount on coker tires.

but it takes a real asshole not to realize that the $50 goes towards keeping the board they have been feeding off of for the last 3 years going.

also from the rules "Hey folks, due to the increased numbers in the classified section we can no longer police bad deals for everyone. From this point forward, we will only help police deals in which both buyer and seller are Alliance members.

For the time being, we are going to keep the classifieds open and free to everyone. However, if you are concerned about safety we recommend that you become an Alliance member and only buy/sell to Alliance members..."

[Harrison]

What part of Texas? ;)

Somewhere near Austin I believe. Dreddybear may remember. He went to the guy's house once & told him that he needed to ship my stuff.

JH

[1 shot]

Well sometimes i'm late on shipping, but I always let the customer know that i'm gonna be a little behind.
As for as people saying they would buy something and then didn't pay, I haven't run into that yet. But I do allot of buisness on the board and so far it's all been on the up and up.

1shot

[Ryan]

Be smart... You won't get screwed. It really is that simple.

As for selling, nothing is sold until the money is hand. That's how I approach every thing.

[Chopd48pan]

It has always really bothered me to see people selling on the HAMB when all 5 or 6 of their posts have been classifieds.
Maybe a minimum post requirement to earn the right to post free ad's.
Never mind, dirtbags will be dirtbags.
It just seems to hurt more from folks you'd like to think are similar to ones self.

Howard

[TexasHardcore]

Still awaiting money from a HAMBer from 3 years ago.

[corncobcoupe]

My suggestion is UPS - COD

Somebody wants to buy it - get your cash ready for when it comes.

Somebody wants to sell it ?

Send it quick if you want to get paid.

Simple and 99% of everyone is covered.

Cob

COD TERMS BELOW;


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When you select C.O.D. for a residential address, you will also receive UPS Voice NotificationSM at no additional charge. If you have provided the recipient's telephone number, then UPS will call the recipient to advise when the shipment will be delivered and the amount of the payment due. Your customer is then prepared to accept delivery at the first attempt, and UPS can expedite your payment.


Learn More About UPS Voice Notification
Terms of Service These terms of service apply to C.O.D.:


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UPS will accept a business or personal check, or another negotiable form of payment.
At the shipper's request, UPS will accept a cashier's check or money order only.
UPS will not accept currency in any amount.
The shipper assumes all risk related to the collection of the payment, including non-payment, insufficient funds, and forgery.

[clifforddean]

As you can see I'm a FNG here I put something on the classifieds and within the hour somebody replied wantn to buy. I thought cool I guess this place is a good place for rodders to talk and trade, sell whatever. But as it goes dude never got a hold of me to finalize deal. I guess I'm lucky I did' nt get stiffed like some of ya but it just leaves a bad taste.

[dragrcr50]

thanks all for input i thought there were some of you that would respond, I have been here a few yrs, i have a 887 100% ebay so i know the drill , a degree in marketing at ou and run a hot rod shop . with that said, i still thought in my feeble mind that strombergs should be offered here as i dont usually do that traditional a car. oh well thanks guys.......................dr50

[Dreddybear]

Somewhere near Austin I believe. Dreddybear may remember. He went to the guy's house once & told him that he needed to ship my stuff.

JH

It was Kris Bluntzer, Hamb name KrisandSarah. He's a young guy from Victoria tx, and was selling parts and not delivering. My buds and I tracked him at the roundup last year and made him make it right with me and I told him he better ship Harrisons stuff. It was clear by how surprised he was he didn't expect to be found. He's changed his phone number a bunch of times. I harrassed this guy on Harrisons behalf for a while before I lost track of him.

[choppintops]

what about sellers? i have ran across a few folks selling theirs goods but refuse to take paypal , now i dont really have a problem with that other than i work offshore (no mail boxes)and getting money orders aint gonna happen for me out here either, but once this fact is established more than one person has acted like i was out to fuck them on payment or the fee from paypal! i will pay the paypal fee thats not a problem but if their very existance is teattering on $3 fuckin dollars and want to treat me like a thief they can shove their goods up thier ass.. in for a penny out for a pound!

for the most part most of my purchases have been good ones and i have recieved some excellent stuff from some great folks ..

If you are a buyer and you use a CREDIT CARD to pay with Paypal, you are covered. ANYTHING ELSE, buyer with a debit card or a seller (and the buyer used a credit card) you are at risk of getting taken.

As for you offering to pay the PP fees, againt the TOS to accept the fees. I could give a rats behind selling a $600 part and losing the 2.9% to fees, its the risk of shipping off the part AND PP taking the money back and having no recourse.

Example, a friend of mine sold a Ididit steering column on feepay. It had been altered and the pics and the description CLEARLY showed the alteration. Buyer asks questions and even more pics, no problem. Guy pays with PP with a credit card (not debit) claims the product was "not as described" (I saw the column in person and the feepay ad it was better then described). PP locks down his account till James refunds the money. James says I will refund the money once I get the colum back. Guy runs to his credit card, gets his money refunded AND still has the column. James makes his living on feepay and has no choice but to return the money and cut his loses.

[dirty old man]

Never sold anything on HAMB, but have bought several times with good results each time. His name escapes me just now, but the guy from CA Bay area that sells leather straps and such really went the extra mile on a deal, even paid the shipping costs on a return on straps which had nothing wrong with them except they weren't gonna work for my application, and the fault was as much mine as his. Good guy.
I do prefer to pay by Pay Pal, but have sent money orders. Also, I prefer Alliance members, as these deals are policed.
If I have any doubts I do look at post count and join date. Then I look at some of the past posts of the seller and if his posts have mostly been a genuine contribution to the subject at hand that is a plus. If however most of his posts are wiseass cracks, that usually kills it for me.
But what really pisses me off is to ask a seller for more info and I get no answer. Example: mag wheels for sale with backspacing not specified, PM for info, no reply. WTF? Don't they have a tape measure and the knowledge to use it?
Dave

[chickenridgerods]

Not a HAMB purchase, but related.

Last fall I found an ALGON intake for a 348/409, contacted the seller, worked out a price and sent payment (USPS Money Order) to the tune of $1500. Seller stated he'd have to dig out the fuel pump and timing cover and that it'd take a few days; I had no issue with that since it was just going to go back on to my own shelves. Long story short, many emails and 5 months later I still had no parts. Finally got the guy to refund my money in full, much to my relief as I figured I was screwed out of it an would need to get the USPS involved.

A couple of weeks later it pops up on eBay with some outrageous description ("super rare, it'll be 10 years before you find another, etc, etc") with slow bidding, and the guy emails me asking if I was still interested. Told me he'd honor the previous price even though he expected bidding would go much higher. Final bid, no reserve, was a couple of hundred less than I'd originally offered. I had a nice big laugh at that one; karma can be a real bitch.

After that experience, I've decided that any big ticket items I buy will be paid for with PayPal and debited from my CC. At least I have some recourse if the parts are a no-show. I understand sellers being hesitant about PP, but I figure if you really want to sell it over the internet, you'll accept PP in this day and age; if you don't trust the guy, don't sell to him.

[gotra66]

I would agree with corncobcoupe, i've sold some engine parts and peices over the internet and did the UPS COD. It takes a couple weeks to get your money, but at least they don't get the parts unless they pay up!

[18n57]

"maybe just deal with alliance members "

Also NOPE! any asshole can shell out 50 bucks to get a discount on coker tires.
I don't think of myself as "just any asshole"

[CURIOUS RASH]

I'll admit that I have backed out of a few buys. If the seller gets squirrelly or turns to an ass, I'm keeping my money. I've stepped up a time or two and said I would buy and then back out when I realize it's gonna be more trouble/risk than it's worth.

[banditomerc]

I usually request a email addy other than their HAMB addy,i correspond some to get a feel to see if they are "really" interested.It might seem like to much effort,but in the end you get your part and you get to know a member a little better.....HAMB'rs are not all a bunch of immature,irresponsible,ignorant,..........guys...o r girls!

[corncobcoupe]

UPS COD boys ........ and 99% of losing money or parts is resolved.
Send it and the guy doesn't pay - you get your part returned to you and yes for a small return fee but you still retain the part.

Buy it and the if seller doesn't send it UPS COD then you aren't out 1 dime.


Ok here is a good one to remember....... and funny when you think about it........

"I trust no one - even my mom cut me loose on Day 1 and since then I trust
no-one - everyday since"

[gearhead1952]

In an effort to make the classifieds better and not just whine how about this...

Charge a buck to post an ad and if alliance member it is free. This might cut down on those people that post ads then don't respond to PMs because they never login to check. As a non alliance member I would have no problem paying this because I am serious about selling something here.

Costs fifty cents each time you bump your ad back to the top. I don't know about you but I am tired of seeing the same old ads back to the top every few days. Personally I'd like to see bumping to the top available only once a week or two weeks.

I take objection to people that say if you don't post on the forum then you aren't part of the community. Well my "write" post count is less than 50 but my "read" post count is in the thousands. I don't feel the need to express my opinion or every idea that comes into my head on this or any other board. I have done a lot with cars over the years and figure things out or try them on my own. Posting on a forum is my last resort. I do try to help out others from time to time but usually others have beat me to it. Am I a part of the community if I only go to a car show instead of entering my car? So all this said I would like to see a count of posts viewed as part of the avatar to "show" others my involvement with this site.

Just my two cents.

[corncobcoupe]

Thanks for the suggestion but as Ryan has said in the past - The HAMB is not a classifieds sight and it is only done out of courtesy to help guys with Rods /Custom cars and parts.

We will not be changing the bump policy to weeks or months.
As a Moderator, it has taken a very long time to corral guys to understanding how things work around here and to change ANYTHING now would open up a whole new round of guys not knowing the changes etc. and frankly much more of a commitement that the Moderators would be able to handle.
I do this because I enjoy it - I donate my time when I can , but am commited to see that things run smooth as much as possible.

So taking liberties here with Ryan - we won't be changing the bump policy anytime in the future.

As far as charging $ - I'm not sure that was what Ryan ever intended to be in this for the money but just the administrative costs of tracking would be a large task.

As far as guys who don't pay - or don't ship parts ...well this much I do know...
The car community is a very small world and eventually what goes around -comes around.

Guys who fail to live up to the honor, eventually.... will be identified and frankly - I hope shamed for not fulfilling a deal.
Word gets around and eventually catches up to the perpetrator.

My suggestion to all is to use UPS COD to make transactions and 99% of the classified transaction problems would disappear.

Thanks,
Cob
Classifieds Moderator

[adavis]

It was Kris Bluntzer, Hamb name KrisandSarah. He's a young guy from Victoria tx, and was selling parts and not delivering. My buds and I tracked him at the roundup last year and made him make it right with me and I told him he better ship Harrisons stuff. It was clear by how surprised he was he didn't expect to be found. He's changed his phone number a bunch of times. I harrassed this guy on Harrisons behalf for a while before I lost track of him.


You don't think Kris changed his name to Joe do you??? :D

I know that its a risk any time you do business with someone you've never met in person, but I'd always thought if I could call the guy up and talk to him on the phone there was a pretty good chance it was a square deal. That was before Mr. Grey came along.....now I'm leary about doin' business with anyone who lives more than a tank of gas away.

[Raven53]

I'll admit that I have backed out of a few buys. If the seller gets squirrelly or turns to an ass, I'm keeping my money. I've stepped up a time or two and said I would buy and then back out when I realize it's gonna be more trouble/risk than it's worth.


Amen to that, sometimes you just get a bad vibe about a guy and think maybe it isn't a good idea.......

[wildoe]

if i ever post anything and treat you like that you have permission to kick my a$$. i may be new but im honest and courteous

[whisky runner]

hey i was just reading the posts..and so far i have bought and sold here.with no problems .i do have a ebay store so i am used to most of the pitfalls. but i have to say that i have never had a problem here yet!!..except for the guys who have me running all over the yard taking pictures and figuring shipping..a few times i even removed the parts then never heard back or they changed their minds..thats why now i just ask to be paid for the part before removing then after i get it ready to ship and know the cost get paid for that. some guys want to pay just once but its hard to do because i dont like spending hours removing parts then the guy changes his mind and im out the time and work..plus have to figure how and where to store the part till i get another sale for it........well thats as clear as mud ..ha ha ha ha ..i guess i need to just stay reading posts ..ha ha ha ha

[unclechop]

Maybe a feed back rating option similar to ebay?
I dont think post count says alot- I see a lot of spambers on here.

[trulyvintage]

no names but , i have had in two months 5 hamb guys make a deal to buy my two stromberg carbs via pm or email or both and two had the check in the mail (not)and three just never answered anything at all .. i had two prior that let me know they changed their minds too. This is a all to often deal for me seems on here. whats the deal, just don't understand this attitude... dr50:cool:

If you stand to profit from selling or buying on any public forum - you should be a contributor :cool:
If you don't care to be a HAMB Alliance member you can always send a 'Thank you' card to Ryan with something in it ;)

[lostn51]

I put up 3 ads in the classifieds for some leftover headers and intakes from vending at the round up. In 2 days I pretty much had half of it sold. Ad's said pay pal or call me with credit card number I can run it through my shop & alliance member got free shipping. Not one of the buyers responded after saying they will take it.... I may take shit for this but I deleted all the ads and put the stuff on eBay for more money than the classified ads. It's disappointing that guys wast sellers time. Don't get me wrong, its a free ad, but if your not going to follow through..............

I had that happen when I was selling my car on here. The guy was all gung ho about getting it and I had the thing packed and ready to load up on the trailer for him and then he backed out on me. Go figure he was a fucking FNG with 1 post.

But like everyone has said look at the number of post they have, for now on I will not even consider selling to a FNG! I hate to be an ass but thats life.

[39 All Ford]

Life is full of risk, play it smart to MITIGATE this risk.

The idea that others should bear all of our risk for free is just dumb. Sorry..

If someone stiffs us on a deal I think we should call a dick a dick, even out loud, but don't look to others to CYA.

I have to believe that the classified section is a nice benifit of the HAMB, I would hate to see too much bitching and finger pointing cause the section to be more trouble than it is worth...

[lostn51]

But there is the other side of the coin......

I collect and restore vintage sewing machines and I bought one long distance off of CL not long ago, during the conversation we find out that both of us are HAMBers and then the tension of the purchase was gone. He said didn't care about how I paid for it personal check or money order, because I was a HAMBer he knew I was good for it. He PMed me to let me know when the money was in his hand and then I had some friends go and pick it up for me. I wish all of my transactions could go as smoothly as it did with him, and I ended up making a new friend to boot!

Just because we have a few nut cases that are trying to burn us doesnt mean that its the norm now. If there is problems report them and let one of the mods take care of it, or PM Ryan.

If its really burning your craw flame the poor bastard on the main board:D

[Thirdyfivepickup]

But there is the other side of the coin......

I collect and restore vintage sewing machines and I bought one long distance off of CL not long ago, during the conversation we find out that both of us are HAMBers and then the tension of the purchase was gone. He said didn't care about how I paid for it personal check or money order, because I was a HAMBer he knew I was good for it. He PMed me to let me know when the money was in his hand and then I had some friends go and pick it up for me. I wish all of my transactions could go as smoothly as it did with him, and I ended up making a new friend to boot!

Just because we have a few nut cases that are trying to burn us doesnt mean that its the norm now. If there is problems report them and let one of the mods take care of it, or PM Ryan.

If its really burning your craw flame the poor bastard on the main board:D

Yeah, but I've dealt with a customer through work for a while, and later on down the road I find out he is a HAMBer. I wouldn't buy anything he had for sale no matter what the price. He is a real grade A prick.

But that could be the way he treats business to business... selling parts to a guy might be a different story.

You gotta use your head and can't assume that every HAMBer is aces... a quick stroll to the classifieds will show you different.

I give the benefit of the doubt... but I won't do anything stupid either.

[silent rick]

the jockey journal is worse. i've had a belt primary sold to 4 different people. went to get shipping quotes for them and they all backed out for some reason or another. i was pratically giving a carb away for 25 bucks, you guessed it, the guy flaked. i won't sell there anymore.