o/t-wright flyer

[cheap-n-dirty]

went to the air show at edward's air force base today and saw this wright flyer on display.
amazing to think that it 100 years for flying.

[RileyRacing]

Did you see where they are gonna try to fly it in December? They are gonna try to recreate the first flight. It's been a long journey... you should see the shit they went through to rebuild it!

Jay

[DrJ]

We went to a convention Dinner and three hour lecture last night with Jon Sharp talking about building and flying his Nemesis, record holding pylon racer which you may see in the Smithsonian now because he's building a bigger and faster plane, the NemesisNXT. It was just plane plain NEAT!
http://www.nemesisnxt.com/

[DrJ]

I have a model of a Wright Glider I built in a Courvasier bottle...
That would be cool to see...
Is it still there? Or did we all miss it?

[purple]

<font color="purple"> I think that is the one the guy up here has been building mostly by himself. My buddy has been helping him, and he has gotten a lot of donations (including food because he has no income). Last I talked to them about it the guy had a week left to carve the props before the display. </font>

[El Caballo]

Needs a JATO... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Deyomatic]

Is the REAL one the one that is at the Smithsonian Air and Space museum?

[36-3window]

it's amazing to me that the wright brothers figured it out 100 years ago how to make a airplane and acually fly it. i've been flying for over 30 years and i still don't have it figured out... the one airplane i built by myself i only flown once,it scared the crap out of me

[wingnutz]

Yes the original Flyer is at the Smithsonean. But the replica is using the original design and powerplant...!

That's "scary shit" like 36threewindow stated earlier I've built my own air craft and almost Crapped myself learning to fly it!

It's also exciting to restore an old bird and see how big your "Gonadds" are on the first flight...! (Lessee..., did I tighten all those cables..., wires..., prop...???? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif)! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Mark

[Digger_Dave]

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Yes the original Flyer is at the Smithsonean. But the replica is using the original design and powerplant...!

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There was a special on the History Channel a few weeks ago. The fellow that built the replica went to great lengths to duplicate everything! He spent hours at the Smith measuring and making notes. Even had the fabric for the wings duplicated. The engine was made by the same company that built the original.

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That's "scary shit" like 36threewindow stated earlier I've built my own air craft and almost Crapped myself learning to fly it!

It's also exciting to restore an old bird and see how big your "Gonadds" are on the first flight...! (Lessee..., did I tighten all those cables..., wires..., prop...???? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif)! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Mark

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And then add; will the prop chains last?..
Will the engine keep running??

Then we look at the Concord; (sadly no more) and what 100 years has done for the airplane!

[jonizzle]

thats right...air tavel has changed tremendously. but look how the automobile has changed in 110+ years (i think). its awesome to see how transportation has changed in 100+ years..everything land, air, and sea.

[Digger_Dave]

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.. its awesome to see how transportation has changed in 100+ years..everything land, air, and sea.

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I remember when I was very young, my grandfather showed me a newspaper clipping about the Wright Bros. first flight.

His comment was, "If man was intended to fly; he would have been born with wings!"

His comment on automobiles (horseless carriages) was, "Danged things are only going to polute the air!"

Gramps; if you only knew!!

[haring]

There is also an exact replica here in Philadelphia at the Franklin Institute. They just opened a new aviation exhibit this month. I was told by one of exhibit designers that it was an original (implying that there were several that the Wright Brothers made), but I am assuming it is an exact replica.

[Revhead]

they not only built the plane the also built the engine and several others to try. I think they even had a couple V8s

[PEDDRO]

So where's a kiwi to tell the tale of who REALLY flew the first plane? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[purple]

<font color="purple"> I know of 3 replicas made recently to comemmorate the centenial. The one that was just at the show is the one being made up here and is not finished. It will be powered by a VW deisel engine on a corn based feul. The one that the guy copied the weave and all had a lot of problems, but I think his is done. The Wright's didn't trust anybody so all thier specs and blueprints were purposely wrong. There is another that flew earlier this year that was made by a college with corporate backing, but is made of all modern materials like carbon fiber. I will hopefully be there when this guy does his final stuff and get some pics up. His website is down right now, problems with the host since 2 days before that show. </font>

[Kilroy]

It's nuts that just 100 years ago they got all the elements right for sustained flight....

And just this weekend we retired our first international, supersonic passanger plane into obsolesance. That's progress...

Get out there in your garages boys, time's passing you by! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Petejoe]

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thats right...air tavel has changed tremendously. but look how the automobile has changed in 110+ years (i think). its awesome to see how transportation has changed in 100+ years..everything land, air, and sea.


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Yes it's amazing how the vehicles have been engineered to a point where it effortless to drive from coast to coast behind the wheel, But it too is amazing to think how those men came up the the same techniques we are still using today.
Some ...even the same designs. Look at the brake components up to just a few years ago. Same old designs used also in exactly how these engines work with the rotatation of a cam along with the same piston and valve designs.The progress made from 1870 to the 1940's just totally amazes me. So many men and women were so intelligent and pure genuises. From a lightbulb to flying to internal combustion engines. The whole world and economy is based on these three things invented during that era.

[Smokin Joe]

For what it's worth, there was one here on exibition at the I.N.E.E.L. expo this weekend. They had it parked at the junior high across from the museum right in my old parking place! These things must be a dime a dozen. They had a Paladin parked right behind it. Now there's a gun! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[55olds88]

O.K. can't help myself here......
But check this out, this is a new link I just dragged up and its the Aussies even chipping in in Richard Pearce (and thay don't even claim him as theirs....) makes some pretty interesting reading, I posted here about 6 months ago about the centerary of powered flight. And this guy is flying a modern layout kinda aircraft much more advanced then the Wrights, he made it in the middle of nowhere. It too has been recreated no getting the factory to re-make the engine here as I think Pearce made that too....

so check it out.....

http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/pearse1.html

[Digger_Dave]

Thanks Olds, was trying to find that site.
Amazing how advanced his "flying machine" was!

[R&C Lee]

The thing that blew me away was that just heard recently that their propeller was designed so well. I can't remember the exact numbers but if a modern propeller is 90-percent effective theirs was like 85-percent. That was without anything prior to work from or computers. It's amazing what was accomplished in that timeframe.

[55olds88]

no worries Dave, have to push the great Kiwi Backyard hero's I guess the population in NZ back then was around the 1 mil mark with probably 200 000 people in the whole of the south Island (area about 1/2 Cal) so he wouldn't have had a whole lot of help.....

[wingnutz]

Met some NZ'rs in Oshkosh Wisconsin (AirVenture) while riding around in a 44' Willy's Jeep..., Thats when I first heard about Pierce...., Great story! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

"Cripes" I'm a pilot who has built and restored Aircraft for the past 28 years...! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif I feel so dumb that I didn't know about him until this year...!

Guess I'll get over it! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Mark