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Nads
10-06-2004, 09:33 PM
Last Saturday night I was coming home from my pal's 37th birthday party and I took a detour.
I decided to go past this tinting place on the corner of 50 and Orange. I know the place is habituated with musclecar dudes, mostly late model shit like Firebirds, Camaros and Mustangs.
I guess I'm too old to be irresponsible but I dumped the clutch on the Packford and smoked the hides going past 'em.
I did a u-turn and came back around when I noticed they were waving for me to come into the parking lot and pay 'em a visit, including a hot young thang videotaping the proceedings.
I thought about it for a second and decided "what the hell" let's go see what this scene is all about.
I had a crowd around the car. They were asking all kinda questions about my rusty 'ol piece of shit, it was kinda cool. "What size is the engine, what the hell's a Packard, are you gonna paint it?"
They told me to come by and bring my hot rodding pals anytime after 10.00 pm on a Saturday night and they were sincere.

I wonder how many of us would have offered them the same courtesy? We are, afterall, an elistist bunch.

I left in a plume of smoke ten minutes later.

Gawd I love hot rods, but so do the musclecar dorks.

Why can't we all get along?

Tman
10-06-2004, 09:35 PM
Brother Nads is spreading the Gospell!!! Can I get an AMEN!?

Good point Nads, I can be elitist but at times you need to look around at the rest of the world. So yer buying a new Cobra I take it? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

SinisterCustom
10-06-2004, 09:39 PM
Hey Nads, I'm one of them muscle car dorks! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Not one of those resto guys though. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif But I've "graduated" to hotrods! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Josh

Nads
10-06-2004, 09:42 PM
These guys have a website called www.fuelslut.com (http://www.fuelslut.com)

Nads
10-06-2004, 09:43 PM
Shit, this might be the wrong website, my bad.

Mike B
10-06-2004, 09:43 PM
Nads, you would look good behind the wheel of a 68 camero with big-ass tires in the back sportin your wavy mullet blastin some Boston. We all like cars and probably would get along, we just don't like to look at each other. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

plmczy
10-06-2004, 09:44 PM
I'm one of those muscle car dorks you speak of. But I used to read R&C,American Rodder,etc. before I got my muscle car. I believe what you experienced is the love of all things car. There are people out there that are like that yet, not all is lost. later plmczy

AHotRod
10-06-2004, 09:44 PM
If you hang the Head-lights that I got at the swap meet Sunday on the back of your HotRod, it will bogg the engine http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Excellant point made, over here on the Gulf-side, the Musclecar gang loves our Beater-Rods.....

Nads
10-06-2004, 09:48 PM
Hey Glenn, it was great to see you at the swap meet buddy, I've missed you.

Now build that crazy hot rod, the headlights are but the beginning.

chromedRAT
10-06-2004, 09:50 PM
around here, there are so few cars anywhere near traditional, i am damned happy to see anything old. shit, even the import kids dig my impala.

flamedabone
10-06-2004, 09:51 PM
Nads, baby. The only guys that thumb thier noses at the hot rods around here are the "Harley" guys. Of course, they are all laywers, dentists and the such and can afford to thumb thier noses....


Really, though..I have noticed that the 13 to 18 year old skate punk/white boy rap/goth kid/jock/hardcore metal kid demographic will walk right past a stickered up Honda to look at one of "our" rusty old cars...

There is hope for civilization yet...

-Abone.

Tman
10-06-2004, 09:52 PM
Or that says something about you Jeff? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Nads
10-06-2004, 09:54 PM
chromedRat, they dig your Impala, that's more than enough.

What we need is a healthy dose of interaction, we can tell them about 8 carb intakes, they can tell us about engine control chips.

Same thing, different era.

I know they can outrun us, but who cares, we dig wheels, they do the same.

Afterall we all pay the same for gas.

MoePower
10-06-2004, 10:04 PM
Hey, I cut my teeth wrenching on Muscle Cars and all my friends just about sh!^ a brick when I got my coupe body. Then they really freaked out when I came rollin' through town with an early Hemi in the back of the truck. One guy just about had a coronary when his modified GTP couldn't keep up with my lo-po 440 on the four lane. Anyone who likes cars and isn't a total retard can appreciate a hot rod even if it has rust and isn't finished.
Just my 2 cents.

willowbilly3
10-06-2004, 10:09 PM
Well when I have all the cars I want at least a couple of them will be musclecars. My favorite ride for getting my yayas out was my 4 speed 66 442, I wish I still had it. Does this make me a dork? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

MoePower
10-06-2004, 10:12 PM
Hey, I'm a dork and so are most of my friends but we got fast cars, we can fix 'em ourselves, and we don't need a mechanic to tell us whats wrong when the engine doesn't go vrrooom.

squigy
10-06-2004, 10:26 PM
NADS,we here in west palm drag race a bunch of those dorks and whip on them.they just dont get weight vs.power ratios.my car weighs maybe 1900lbs.with a motor with 360hp.well it is so much fun to take there loot..now some of these kids are catching on,but we still find the mouthy asshole of the bunch,and take there money... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

hemi
10-06-2004, 10:37 PM
I am a musclecar dork, and I like anything that does a burnout on a public street.

MoePower
10-06-2004, 10:40 PM
Amen to that, as long as it's not (front) wrong-wheel drive.

chromedRAT
10-06-2004, 10:42 PM
you know, from what i see, car guys are car guys, regardless. all i really own and am building are old american cars, but i've worked on a few imports too. built a cold air intake for the buddy of mine's honda out of black abs plastic from lowes and a K&N filter from the TPI engine he got from his brother's wrecked camaro. with the home fabricated exhaust, it was a night and day difference and that little car has made a pretty good running daily driver. same guy has the 60 nomad i've posted about on here. my brother is another case like that. he's an industrial designer for porter cable, built a pretty much full on race car out of the little civic he got for a work car. bigger brakes, short throw shifter, dropped slightly, super-light 12 lb. 5 spoke wheels, race tires, performance exhaust and all sorts of other shit with a japan-only DOHC vtec engine. fucker is evil, i shit you not. i got to drive it, for a street car, it is more than fast enough and just a little scary. it is more than enough to give ALOT of cars a run for their money. he destroyed a newer mustang gt from a dead stop up to 100mph with it the other week, sorta ran out of torque past that. his is gunmetal gray and the wheels are matte black. no dumbass wings or stickers, nor does the other guy have those on his car. all business, no show. my brother really digs what we do, and has checked shit out on here from time to time, no less. most everybody would agree that a well done car is to be respected all around. to be honest, the real tuner guys like the fast and furious bullshit just as much as folks on here like the rockariffic poser greaser wannabe flat black 85 S10 with wide white fuckers.

MoePower
10-06-2004, 10:48 PM
Guess I can't really slam the front-driver's some of those things are pretty damn fast from the factory. I just can't stand the dorks who think a stock civic is fast cause they glue a park bench to the back and put some stickers on.

HotRod60F100
10-06-2004, 10:50 PM
I'm just a dork period as i own a street/strip 73 AMC Gremlin http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Special Ed GT
10-06-2004, 11:07 PM
I like both. My daily-driver, nitrous'ed EFI mustang is fun, but I also like to build and tinker and you just can't do that with the new cars. They're just too expensive or too complicated or both. That's why I hope to someday build the bantam to run circles around my mustang - as long as it's in a straight line (??).

SinisterCustom
10-07-2004, 12:06 AM
Willowbilly, I just sold my 4-speed '66 442 for $2500 about 10 months ago. The wife was pissed. She loved that car. I MUST be a dork. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Josh

Steel Phoenix
10-07-2004, 12:24 AM
Okay, I'm gonna 'out' myself a bit here...

I dig old American steel, be it hot rod or muscle car. I just happen to like the aesthetics of the pre 1960 cars better overall. I can't stand those little ricer pieces of shit with their shopping cart handle spoilers and wasp nest mufflers.

My first car was a 1967 Mustang. I loved that car. Did a lot of the maintenance on it myself (oil changes, etc.), I learned quite a bit about cars with that Mustang. Was heartbroken when it got stolen.

When my husband and I were still dating, but pretty serious, he let me use his 74 Camaro as a daily driver for a while. That car was damn fun to drive. Incidentally, that same Camaro is what I'm helping him rebuild right now. Threefold reasons... 1. He wants it to run again 2. I'll be learning a lot more as the work progresses 3. My goal is still my own vehicle... something pre 1960... to build/fix up, whatever. And I'll need HIS help on it. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I think its that appreciation for old Steel that we have as a common thread.

bufordtjustice
10-07-2004, 12:29 AM
Nuthin wrong with diggin muscle cars or any thing close...if it does a burnout with both rear wheels, I can respect it.

Greg

Rocky
10-07-2004, 12:34 AM
Well, now I don't feel as guilty as I did earlier tonight.
On my way to work this morning. I was pulling out or the Quick Shop into traffic when this immaculate, white Cobra slithers by with ultra mellow exhaust. It was slammed, ran polished curved-spoke Americans and he'd done his homework on wheel/tire fit. They came right out to the fenders... I lusted after that car...
ONce had a 68 GTO, 400, 4 speed and a mullet!

Flat Ernie
10-07-2004, 03:26 AM
Well, I never had a proper mullet, but I did (and still do) dig early 'Stangs. Had a '69 Mach I 428SCJ toploader & 4:30 gears...talk about quick AND fast!

It's the same - I guess I'm snobbish against anything much past about '74 or so though...the late-model stuff is just, well, too new.


http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

willowbilly3
10-07-2004, 03:43 AM
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Willowbilly, I just sold my 4-speed '66 442 for $2500 about 10 months ago. The wife was pissed. She loved that car. I MUST be a dork. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Josh

[/ QUOTE ]

And you didn't call me? Now I am pissed too. I loved that car, it would make those 402 Chevelles look like they were tied to a tree. I never lost a streetfight in that car.

HotRod60F100
10-07-2004, 04:59 AM
Why so those who sport or have sported a 'mullet'have to be asociated with one who owns a muscle car.we've all head'mullets'and other fucked up hairdos.todays hairdos are as bad as some mullets finally that 'ducks ass/peewee herman'do is going outta style.and thankfully i'm seeing less and less women fuck thier hair up with that pixie cut chopped up'i got my ass kicked by a pair of garden shears' shit do as well.....yeaah its late time for mr.grumpy to go to bed.

redmeat
10-07-2004, 05:31 AM
<font color="red"> FAST IS FAST ......SMOKE IS SMOKE .......COOL IS COOL......THSES ARE UNIVERSAL TRUTHS

R E D M E A T </font>

Antibilly
10-07-2004, 08:39 AM
Hey Nads Im up for heading by this saturday night....its more then any of the so called hot rodders around here do!

Nads
10-07-2004, 09:57 AM
Let's do it Mike, you know the spot.

Hot Rod To Hell
10-07-2004, 10:01 AM
I am a musclecar dork that digs hot rods.
Or am I a hot rod dork that digs musclecars?

Ahhh fuck it... I'm just a dork, and I like any rear wheel drive car that's fast! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

graverobber63
10-07-2004, 10:07 AM
[ QUOTE ]
I am a musclecar dork, and I like anything that does a burnout on a public street.

[/ QUOTE ]

Me too as long as it's the back wheels http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

LoungeLife
10-07-2004, 11:10 AM
Hey Nads - tell us more about the hot young thang with the video camera http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

CptStickfigure
10-07-2004, 04:06 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Why so those who sport or have sported a 'mullet'have to be asociated with one who owns a muscle car.we've all head'mullets'and other fucked up hairdos.todays hairdos are as bad as some mullets finally that 'ducks ass/peewee herman'do is going outta style.and thankfully i'm seeing less and less women fuck thier hair up with that pixie cut chopped up'i got my ass kicked by a pair of garden shears' shit do as well.....yeaah its late time for mr.grumpy to go to bed.

[/ QUOTE ]

Are you speaking English?

Gotgas
10-07-2004, 04:23 PM
I have a video of my old 1980 Mustang dragging a Yamaha R1.

Manual brakes, manual steering, no O/D, and 4.30s .. but not a muscle car OR a hot rod. I must REALLY be a dork. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

hemi
10-07-2004, 04:42 PM
I don't care if it's a 79 Ford Feista catching a wheel, I'm a tire-chirp junky. I'd much rather see a weenie Honda getting wrung the fark out than a blown big block fairground pounder or a trailered flatty any day. Driving is an art form, and a stickshift car is a musical instrument.

For the record, and to shatter all preconcieved stereo types...I drive a 73 Plymouth almost daily, was brought up around late 60's and early 70's muscle cars, and I've NEVER had a mullet...or lived in a trailerpark. Ever.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Flexicoker
10-07-2004, 04:45 PM
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I've NEVER had a mullet...or lived in a trailerpark. Ever.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

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Well you're missing out on all the fun man!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Samantha
10-07-2004, 04:48 PM
I'm equal opportunity...I like old cars, hot rods, musclecars, racecars...you name it. We have a 67 Fairlane that kicks major butt...my husband races progas/supergas...and my tbird definitely has some muscle. And as far as mullets go...I would bet that 90% of the people on here had one...I know I did! HAHAHAHA

plan9
10-07-2004, 05:13 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I would bet that 90% of the people on here had one...I know I did! HAHAHAHA

[/ QUOTE ]

my mohawk looked like a mullet when i wore a hat.

Flexicoker
10-07-2004, 05:16 PM
Elrusto in his prime http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/image_uploads/374358-Web%20Mymullet.jpg

Buick59
10-07-2004, 06:35 PM
dear brother Nads, I have turned into one of those muscle car dorks too!!!! Now days, you will find me execlusively shooting muscle cars. And believe it or not I dig it. Here is some old muscle form a recent shoot. Oh.....I just bought an 88 Camaro too!! BWWUUUHAHAHAHHAha

HotRod60F100
10-07-2004, 07:23 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Why so those who sport or have sported a 'mullet'have to be asociated with one who owns a muscle car.we've all head'mullets'and other fucked up hairdos.todays hairdos are as bad as some mullets finally that 'ducks ass/peewee herman'do is going outta style.and thankfully i'm seeing less and less women fuck thier hair up with that pixie cut chopped up'i got my ass kicked by a pair of garden shears' shit do as well.....yeaah its late time for mr.grumpy to go to bed.

[/ QUOTE ]

Are you speaking English?

[/ QUOTE ]

Was trying my damndest at 5 am in the mornin with no sleep http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

El Caballo
10-07-2004, 07:35 PM
So, um, I won't be disowned when I buy a '05 Mustang GT convert?

Nads
10-07-2004, 08:27 PM
Oh Mike, you poor sap.
Dig the '55 though.

lexman24
01-15-2009, 11:03 PM
muscle car dorks just lack a proper hot rod edjucation. alot of them grew up without a father who was into hotrods. I know for a fact thats why I love hotrods, good old dad. I guess everyone deserves a chance, except for stupid late model mustang owners. gag!

Flat Ernie
01-15-2009, 11:05 PM
This thread is 4-1/2 years old...

Strange Agent
01-15-2009, 11:08 PM
Nads, baby. The only guys that thumb thier noses at the hot rods around here are the "Harley" guys. Of course, they are all laywers, dentists and the such and can afford to thumb thier noses....


Really, though..I have noticed that the 13 to 18 year old skate punk/white boy rap/goth kid/jock/hardcore metal kid demographic will walk right past a stickered up Honda to look at one of "our" rusty old cars...

There is hope for civilization yet...

-Abone.
Hey man, I'm one of those hardcore metal kids, and you're right on! Of course I'm on the HAMB, so I guess that makes me biased? :D

srdart67
01-15-2009, 11:25 PM
This thread is 4-1/2 years old...

wow i didnt realize that until i read your post. cars are cars. ricers are not cars they are glorified go karts:D

lexman24
01-15-2009, 11:31 PM
This thread is 4-1/2 years old...

Oh woops. my bad, I will pay more attention.

LUX BLUE
01-15-2009, 11:59 PM
and yeah...we are still musclecar dorks around here.

even the boss.


sheesh...fuckin new guys.....

lexman24
01-16-2009, 12:03 AM
and yeah...we are still musclecar dorks around here.

even the boss.


sheesh...fuckin new guys.....

Thanks for that.....

LUX BLUE
01-16-2009, 12:11 AM
Thanks for that.....

doin the lords work.

OLLIN
01-16-2009, 12:40 AM
this is a funny thread. I was just talking to KopisKorpse about this earlier today. He has a bad ass camaro, but now hes more into the older stuff and hes got the bug bad. Muscle cars are cool too, but theres nothing like the real old tin!

tooslow54
01-16-2009, 12:43 AM
See the sig and add 2.5 years:D

R.Allan
01-16-2009, 03:04 AM
amen!

LOST ANGEL
01-16-2009, 04:45 AM
Wow, wasn't NADS like 20 years old when he posted this?-MIKE:eek::D

retromotors
01-16-2009, 05:01 AM
finally that 'ducks ass/peewee herman'do is going outta style.

Hey now .... watch it!
Don't be comin' down on my hero Peewee.
I'll hafta sic Large Marge on yo' ass!!!:eek:

buckeye_01
01-16-2009, 05:30 AM
Thanks for that.....

It was well deserved.

tommy
01-16-2009, 06:55 AM
http://fototime.com/%7B2793037E-4764-4495-AA0E-DFD402D5D8D6%7D/picture.JPG

I'm a dork also. This was a basket case when I got it. If you live long enough, the new stuff gets old and more desirable. Anybody that blocks out a whole segment of our hobby because you like a particular segment today is a bigot. Be careful your tastes may change. I hated these cars when they were new but I grew up to be a bigger dork than when I was young.

AV8Paul
01-16-2009, 07:26 AM
tommy is right. I started out old style hot rodder in the late 50's. Had a '34 PU. When I came home from Vietnam in late '66, I bought this brand new '67 SS. After a few years of buying new tires for the rear, I went back to old style hot rods. I still like musscle cars, but don't intend to own another. Just wasn't me.

Finktim
01-16-2009, 08:06 AM
I love my hot rod better than any car I've ever owned, in fact, it's the car I've wanted since I was in high school. But, life, money, kids, and all that made me wait 25 yrs. to get it, and a whole bunch of cars in between working my way up to now. IE; Firebirds, Jeeps, Bronco, and all kinds of family rides, then I got my 72' Chevelle about 16 yrs. ago, and I truly loved that car. It was destroyed in one of our tropical storms, a huge tree fell on it. (it was my daily driver for 9 yrs.) On the upside, my coupe was half finished in the garage, and I used the insurance money to finish it, and now I've been driving it daily ever since! Sometimes you just hafta' wait and pay your dues! (I still like big block muscle cars, but not like a hotrod!)

BarneyO
01-16-2009, 08:12 AM
This thread seems like a good place to put down a URL I found this morning regarding musclecars and modificatrions. List of 10 good reasons why you should 'bastardize' your car (plus a bonus reason) Good for a few chuckles and some agreement too. ;-)

http://www.britishv8.org/Articles/top10.htm

Shifty Shifterton
01-16-2009, 08:40 AM
Apparently it needs to be said again since you guys are only reading the first and last page

FOUR YEAR OLD THREAD

Racewriter
01-16-2009, 08:45 AM
Car guys are car guys. All the rest is just whacking off on your computer.

VenomousType
01-16-2009, 08:50 AM
im caught some where in the middle.. im a Musclecar guy in transition..

Shifty Shifterton
01-16-2009, 08:52 AM
Car guys are car guys. All the rest is just whacking off on your computer.


Ewww. I gotta use this computer, tell those guys to stay away from it.


FOUR YEAR OLD THREAD

lexman24
01-16-2009, 09:04 AM
Apparently it needs to be said again since you guys are only reading the first and last page

FOUR YEAR OLD THREAD

Does it really matter, what do you care? And also I think you guys have me mistaken, I love me some "real muscle cars" anything prior to 1973. It's the guys out there that drive 5.0 mustangs and 96' camaros and think they are hot shit that could use some schoolin'. Thats all I meant....

dragrcr50
01-16-2009, 09:11 AM
I am sure glad those guys love their cars, I'd starve if i had to depend on hot rodders to make a livin ..............

phukinartie
01-16-2009, 09:17 AM
Hey if they have chrome bumpers and make that bipipitty sound i like 'em

Cajun Kenny
01-16-2009, 09:28 AM
im guilty as hell , im a harley riding muscle car dork!<HARLEY p car muscle dork!!<>
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x290/flh4speed/IM000954-1.jpg

64T-bolt
01-16-2009, 09:35 AM
im guilty, although i have primarily old shit. . . my fastest car by far is my 700 rwhp 2003 Cobra. . it has no character, but it does run 10's @ 130 ish, get 22mpg, cruise, air and fries rice without regard (2 wheel and 4 wheel rice). . . .

fast is fast. . . .and cool is cool . .but there is a difference. I know plenty of posers that bought "rat rods" and think they're old school greasers from the days of way back. .

chappys4life
01-16-2009, 09:45 AM
well I guess I am a muscle car dork too. My dd is a 66 mustang. I love cars so I will rock anything cool. I dont care what it is as long as its rwd and goes fast.

repoguy
01-16-2009, 09:47 AM
......I guess everyone deserves a chance, except for stupid late model mustang owners. gag!.....



You're an idiot. Half the guys around here have newer stuff too.

Go away.

58Fridge100
01-16-2009, 09:51 AM
Anything's cool- done tastefully.

Kevins89notch5.0
01-16-2009, 10:14 AM
Hahaha, I spent the last 5 minutes over at www.fuelslut.net (http://www.fuelslut.net) looking for any video of said burnout, but gave up after a while. No wonder I can't find it, this thread is 4 years old. :)

SinisterCustom
01-16-2009, 10:25 AM
God damn......who cares how old the thread is....it's still a cool topic to talk about.
What's preferred....bringing up an old thread on a subject someone wants to discuss further, or starting a new one on the same subject and getting crap for not doing a search....

I still dig musclecars....they'll always pull in more TAIL than any hotrod......:D

skullboy
01-16-2009, 10:30 AM
im a fellow harley riding muscle car dork. right now all iv got is my motorcycle and my camaro. some day ill have a model A but i have yet to find one

31Vicky with a hemi
01-16-2009, 10:45 AM
4-1/2 year old post and still going strong!!!
There must be things that still need to be confessed i guess or its just a timeless subject.
I could be wrong but,,,, As far as I can remember and everything I have ever read; "Muscle Cars" were the big car motor in the mid-size body style started in 1964 by the factory namely Pontiac and the GTO. The mustangs, camaros, and firebirds were called Pony Cars started by Ford's affordable "chick" car the Mustang marketed towards the secretary.
People, Rodders had been doing motorswaps for years on there own before the factory did it and they called them Hot-Rods. The Factory did motor swaps on new iron and they call them Muscle Cars. This was a direct imitation of that back-yard mechanic, hood, greaser, whatever building what he could with what ever he could get his hands on. Most of what he built was, Raw, Scary and Rough Around the Edges and unaceptable by the average suburban population. The factory with its unlimited resourses made it more main stream and desirable to the average joe by polishing it and marketing the concept.

Muscle Cars died in 1972!! The "Pony Car" lived on to what it has become today. Some of it is quite impressive but in no way a muscle car. Call them what you will

By definition the factory can not ever build you a hot-rod. They can get you going fast, provide a means to execute your need for conspicuios comsumption and give you a warranty on your PONY CAR , but if you want a hot-rod you need to build it. Some say it needs to be out of 1964 or earlier iron, why, because the Factory started doing it in 64.
MHO and .02

lexman24
01-16-2009, 10:55 AM
4-1/2 year old post and still going strong!!!
There must be things that still need to be confessed i guess or its just a timeless subject.
I could be wrong but,,,, As far as I can remember and everything I have ever read; "Muscle Cars" were the big car motor in the mid-size body style started in 1964 by the factory namely Pontiac and the GTO. The mustangs, camaros, and firebirds were called Pony Cars started by Ford's affordable "chick" car the Mustang marketed towards the secretary.
People, Rodders had been doing motorswaps for years on there own before the factory did it and they called them Hot-Rods. The Factory did motor swaps on new iron and they call them Muscle Cars. This was a direct imitation of that back-yard mechanic, hood, greaser, whatever building what he could with what ever he could get his hands on. Most of what he built was, Raw, Scary and Rough Around the Edges and unaceptable by the average suburban population. The factory with its unlimited resourses made it more main stream and desirable to the average joe by polishing it and marketing the concept.

Muscle Cars died in 1972!! The "Pony Car" lived on to what it has become today. Some of it is quite impressive but in no way a muscle car. Call them what you will

By definition the factory can not ever build you a hot-rod. They can get you going fast, provide a means to execute your need for conspicuios comsumption and give you a warranty on your PONY CAR , but if you want a hot-rod you need to build it. Some say it needs to be out of 1964 or earlier iron, why, because the Factory started doing it in 64.
MHO and .02

Very well put, I couldn't have said it better.

lexman24
01-16-2009, 10:58 AM
You're an idiot. Half the guys around here have newer stuff too.

Go away.

Bite me

1950ChevySuburban
01-16-2009, 11:24 AM
I've noticed that the older I get, the older my project cars get.
I've done the musclecar thing, loved it.
Doing the '50's thing, love it.
Doing a model A, love it.

Shit, next car will hafta be an old Studebaker covered wagon from 1886!

ratt7
01-16-2009, 12:16 PM
As long as they are American made cars, that's all that matters to me. I'm interested in anyones car, always something to learn.

Von Rigg Fink
01-16-2009, 12:23 PM
I live in both of these worlds...
1 world
HAMBer with an A and a 53 Chevy..
2nd world
68 440 Charger

theres no help for me..and gladly no cure

31Vicky with a hemi
01-16-2009, 12:27 PM
As long as they are American made cars, that's all that matters to me. I'm interested in anyones car, always something to learn.

Yeap, me too! Alot of the pioneers of the hot rods took what they learned on other machinery and applied it to their cars. I'm sure some of it came from being/seeing what was in europe for WWII.


I'm going to bet that the first guy to run down the street without fenders caught a bunch of shitfor that too !!

Groucho
01-16-2009, 12:34 PM
I wonder how many of us would have offered them the same courtesy? We are, afterall, an elistist bunch.

Why can't we all get along?
VERY interesting question. I don't know what "us" means. About 7 years ago, I admired some of "your" cars from the outside, so to say. Tatooed, greaser types, with their jalopy Hot Rods would look at me like I was from Mars or something. That was, until they saw that I had similar taste in cars. Now, it's hey Groucho. But, before, it was, lets stop talkin and see what this fool's looking at:D. But, it sure seemed the tattoo "thing" was a sacred bond of sorts. Example-I'm drivin my Gasser Willys up to the Hot Rod Reunion a few yrs ago. I come up on a bunch of traditional rods. Hemi powered "A" w/spindle mounts and no brakes up front, etc. They all givin me the thumbs up. We cruise together for about 20 miles, revvin motors and poppin clutches at eachother.....Later in the day I see them all parked at the finish line area at the drag strip. I'm lookin at their cars up close, and these guys are lookin at me strange. Then I say, I'm the guy in the Gasser Willys on the freeway this morning. Now it's oh cool, man did you build it, what's in it, wanna beer...? I better get a tattoo for when I leave the car behind:eek:

Cal Cowboy
01-16-2009, 12:55 PM
Does having a hot rod and muscle car cancel each other out? Maybee I'm OK.

slayer
01-16-2009, 03:11 PM
H, my name is Eric and I'm an alcoholi------I meen muscle car dork.:DSorry, wrong meeting.

53sled
01-16-2009, 03:13 PM
These guys have a website called www.fuelslut.com (http://www.fuelslut.com)

yeah, that set off alarms in the interweb filter here at work.

Does having a hot rod and muscle car cancel each other out? Maybee I'm OK.

Maybe, but your avatar makes up for it all.

LUX BLUE
01-16-2009, 05:36 PM
Does having a hot rod and muscle car cancel each other out? Maybee I'm OK.

You might be okay. My driveway is an identity crisis.

63 Bel air (wifey)
92 Bronco Nite(wifey-but rad.)
73 g.m.c. (slots-n-sidepipes-shop truck/parts hauler. rad.)
2 1967 Cutlasses (1 built one, 1 for parts. I have a 3rd somewhere, too.)
1964 Starfire (pro touring project. Camaro clip, 455, yadda yadda.)
1931 sedan. on 33 coupe rails. kinda looking for a 70's show-n-go theme on this one.

and I just got a free 65 cutlass I have no idea whgat to do with. I'm thinkin racecar.

64Olds
01-20-2009, 05:08 PM
nicely said nads, i like it all, as to where my dad doesnt like bigger bodied, hot rods, hes a strictly muscle car guys, but idk why, he cant go cruise, we can :) his gas is to expensive haha, something about a 540ci bb chevy in a 73 duster, which is street legal but, 5-6 bucks a gallon says nuh-uh haha

Nads
01-20-2009, 05:21 PM
Welcome to This Old Thread


Subaru WRXs are fast, I dig 'em.

Shifty Shifterton
01-20-2009, 05:24 PM
Does it really matter, what do you care? And also I think you guys have me mistaken, I love me some "real muscle cars" anything prior to 1973. It's the guys out there that drive 5.0 mustangs and 96' camaros and think they are hot shit that could use some schoolin'. Thats all I meant....

I care because I like the HAMB's quality and this thread is your electronic equivalent, four years old and retarded.

Why is it retarded? Because it assumes we're different in the first place. And then gives people a reason to feel good about themselves for breaking down a self imposed barrier.

Whoopitie fucking doo! You guys keep patting yourselves on the back for extending a hand of friendship to somebody almost exactly like you. Somebody who probably didn't know there was a barrier in the first place. You guys are fucking groundbreaking. They ought to get your help with that israel/palestine shit. <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

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01-20-2009, 07:54 PM
I care because I like the HAMB's quality and this thread is your electronic equivalent, four years old and retarded.

Why is it retarded? Because it assumes we're different in the first place. And then gives people a reason to feel good about themselves for breaking down a self imposed barrier.

Whoopitie fucking doo! You guys keep patting yourselves on the back for extending a hand of friendship to somebody almost exactly like you. Somebody who probably didn't know there was a barrier in the first place. You guys are fucking groundbreaking. They ought to get your help with that israel/palestine shit. <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
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poorboy
01-20-2009, 08:12 PM
Bringing back 2 year old posts is the new flat black

aint that the truth

BISHOP
01-20-2009, 08:14 PM
im guilty as hell , im a harley riding muscle car dork!<HARLEY p dork!!< muscle car>
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x290/flh4speed/IM000954-1.jpg
There is some purple stuff growin on the rear of your car.

manyolcars
01-20-2009, 08:15 PM
As long as they are American made cars, that's all that matters to me.

I said that a few years ago and they threatened to ban me.

Hemizach
01-20-2009, 08:18 PM
I'm just a car dork....

Cajun Kenny
01-20-2009, 08:44 PM
thanks for noticing bishop , a lot of love and dough went into that $200 car , i will miss my LSU special as the car was sold this past weekend ..

manyolcars
01-20-2009, 08:45 PM
muscle car dorks just lack a proper hot rod edjucation. alot of them grew up without a father who was into hotrods. I know for a fact thats why I love hotrods, good old dad. I guess everyone deserves a chance, except for stupid late model mustang owners. gag!

You are pretty ignorant.
I have been into hotrods since the 50s
My sons grew up riding in my 1939 Ford truck (I've been driving it 16 years now) and my 1935 Ford
They dont remember me driving anything else (except the 47 Mercury) until I got the 57 Chev, and the 31 coupe and the 59 Ford
and some others
One son is heavily into offroading his jeeps
The other son has a new MUSTANG (14 second car)
He runs it at the Baton Rouge dragstrip
Guess what?
They are still automotive enthusiasts!
I will not be surprised if they come back to traditional hotrodding
After all, thats what they know best.
When the youngest boy was 9 years old, I showed him a lump of iron on the floor of someones garage and asked him what it was.
I knew he had never seen one before.
He correctly stated that it was a Model T transmission.
For those who dont know, the Model T transmission is all guts and has no case like newer transmissions.
I asked him how he knew and admitted that he was guessing but he had seen most Ford parts from 1928 to 1959 and knew it had to be older, thus Model T.

My son with the Mustang is just starting out in life, got a good paying job that sends him out of state often, and lives in an apartment complex.
No place in his life yet for a traditional hotrod.

havi
01-20-2009, 08:59 PM
I'm one of those muscle car dorks you speak of. But I used to read R&C,American Rodder,etc. before I got my muscle car. I believe what you experienced is the love of all things car. There are people out there that are like that yet, not all is lost. later plmczy
I'm one :)

t5stang91
01-20-2009, 09:37 PM
i'm both a musclecar dork and i like old vehicles. actually i like everything except rice. even lowrides a little bit if the yare tastefully done.

ArtGeco
01-20-2009, 09:47 PM
I wonder how many of us would have offered them the same courtesy? We are, afterall, an elistist bunch.

Why can't we all get along?

I get along with anyone who has grease under his nails.

Mr. Big
01-20-2009, 10:10 PM
I'm a musclecar dork, I guess. It just seems like all of the musclecar guys have gotten away from the things that make (made?) musclecars awesome, kinda like the chainer street rod bit. That's why traditional hot rods are so refreshing and so many of us lurk around here. It's also why I just picked up a '65 for my daily. Some of my associates spend a ton of time and money "refining" their muscle, then realize that they made it as much fun to drive as their wife's Honda.

lexman24
01-20-2009, 10:17 PM
You are pretty ignorant.
I have been into hotrods since the 50s
My sons grew up riding in my 1939 Ford truck (I've been driving it 16 years now) and my 1935 Ford
They dont remember me driving anything else (except the 47 Mercury) until I got the 57 Chev, and the 31 coupe and the 59 Ford
and some others
One son is heavily into offroading his jeeps
The other son has a new MUSTANG (14 second car)
He runs it at the Baton Rouge dragstrip
Guess what?
They are still automotive enthusiasts!
I will not be surprised if they come back to traditional hotrodding
After all, thats what they know best.
When the youngest boy was 9 years old, I showed him a lump of iron on the floor of someones garage and asked him what it was.
I knew he had never seen one before.
He correctly stated that it was a Model T transmission.
For those who dont know, the Model T transmission is all guts and has no case like newer transmissions.
I asked him how he knew and admitted that he was guessing but he had seen most Ford parts from 1928 to 1959 and knew it had to be older, thus Model T.

My son with the Mustang is just starting out in life, got a good paying job that sends him out of state often, and lives in an apartment complex.
No place in his life yet for a traditional hotrod.

Hey thanks for the life story, I don't care. Late model cars are shit and if you say otherwise, you are kidding yourself. You can all call me ignorant all you want, meanwhile I will continue keepin it traditional. I signed up to be a part of this site to support true hotdodders, maybe I have the wrong site.

BISHOP
01-20-2009, 10:25 PM
Lexman, dont go anywhere, I want to see you finish that bellytanker.

thrashingcows
01-20-2009, 10:26 PM
Muscle car dorks just lack a proper hot rod edjucation. alot of them grew up without a father who was into hotrods. I know for a fact thats why I love hotrods, good old dad. I guess everyone deserves a chance...
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I grew up watching Grandpa fix peoples cars in his garage...never had anyone into hotrods or musclecars.

I just gravitated towards muscle cars as I got older, but always had a love for hotrods too...I've had a host of muscle cars...restored a few...had a couple show cars and realised this isn't the life for me, I want to drive 'em like they were meant to be.

I sold off most of the fleet, marriage and kids required this, and now have my old 68 Chrysler wagon...hauls the family and has a big 440 under the hood...has a old repaint and looks good going down the road, the dash is cracked and there are nicks and dings everywhere but I love it!!

I recently rediscovered hotrods at the ripe old age of 34, and I am trying to learn as much as possible about trads and other rods...hope to pick myself up a mid 30's project in the next couple years...plan on running an old school Hemi and 4 gear...the rest I'll leave to my imagination.

So there is hope for the young guns out there...they just need an open minded person and a little guidance and they'll be buying up all your old rods when your pushin up daisies...;):)

dirtbag54
01-20-2009, 10:28 PM
if its old just drive it and enjoy it

lexman24
01-20-2009, 10:41 PM
I grew up watching Grandpa fix peoples cars in his garage...never had anyone into hotrods or musclecars.

I just gravitated towards muscle cars as I got older, but always had a love for hotrods too...I've had a host of muscle cars...restored a few...had a couple show cars and realised this isn't the life for me, I want to drive 'em like they were meant to be.

I sold off most of the fleet, marriage and kids required this, and now have my old 68 Chrysler wagon...hauls the family and has a big 440 under the hood...has a old repaint and looks good going down the road, the dash is cracked and there are nicks and dings everywhere but I love it!!

I recently rediscovered hotrods at the ripe old age of 34, and I am trying to learn as much as possible about trads and other rods...hope to pick myself up a mid 30's project in the next couple years...plan on running an old school Hemi and 4 gear...the rest I'll leave to my imagination.

So there is hope for the young guns out there...they just need an open minded person and a little guidance and they'll be buying up all your old rods when your pushin up daisies...;):)

Good luck to you thrashingcows, I am only 27 and am fighting trying to get any respect from these old guys. I hope you find your project, and make it your own;)

classicfins
01-20-2009, 11:03 PM
There is some purple stuff growin on the rear of your car.
LMAO :p

lexman24
01-20-2009, 11:04 PM
I care because I like the HAMB's quality and this thread is your electronic equivalent, four years old and retarded.

Why is it retarded? Because it assumes we're different in the first place. And then gives people a reason to feel good about themselves for breaking down a self imposed barrier.

Whoopitie fucking doo! You guys keep patting yourselves on the back for extending a hand of friendship to somebody almost exactly like you. Somebody who probably didn't know there was a barrier in the first place. You guys are fucking groundbreaking. They ought to get your help with that israel/palestine shit. <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

I realize I am a newbie and for that you hate me, but I applogized for the accidental revival of this thread, trust me after this it won't happen again. I simply gave my opinion of dislike for late model cars, and I'm sure i"m not alone there. I just want to be a part of this community.

manyolcars
01-21-2009, 01:35 AM
Hey thanks for the life story, I don't care. Late model cars are shit and if you say otherwise, you are kidding yourself. You can all call me ignorant all you want, meanwhile I will continue keepin it traditional. I signed up to be a part of this site to support true hotdodders, maybe I have the wrong site.

You seem to have a reading comprehension disability.

zbuickman
01-21-2009, 07:28 AM
Good luck to you thrashingcows, I am only 27 and am fighting trying to get any respect from these old guys. I hope you find your project, and make it your own;)

I realize I am a newbie and for that you hate me, but I applogized for the accidental revival of this thread, trust me after this it won't happen again. I simply gave my opinion of dislike for late model cars, and I'm sure i"m not alone there. I just want to be a part of this community.


The answer in how to gain respect here is in your above posts.... re read them sit back and think about them for a little bit. and youll figure it out. good luck.:)

p.s. the way your going about it now, definatly is not going to work. also we like old threads coming back up it shows reseach. not ignornrance and laziness:)

SOCAL PETE
01-21-2009, 07:57 AM
WTF is all the haten going on about Muscle Cars.
Muscle cars continue where Hot Rods and Customs taper off. They gather 80% of their direction from us.
Maybe they have problems with gold chainers.
Now I could see the ricers getting some flack...but Muscle cars....Muscle cars...:mad:

Shifty Shifterton
01-21-2009, 09:18 AM
I realize I am a newbie and for that you hate me, but I applogized for the accidental revival of this thread, trust me after this it won't happen again. I simply gave my opinion of dislike for late model cars, and I'm sure i"m not alone there. I just want to be a part of this community.

Let me assure you, what little hatred I harbor (none for you BTW) is applied much more precisely than you think, and it is not aimed at noobs. New on this board does not mean new in the real world, even if new mattered.

Let me assure you one other thing. If you're the "real deal" then you can not only recognize tin-lust in others, but you can understand where it's coming from. Even if that tin/plastic-lust is aimed at a vehicle you personally dislike.

If you don't understand that, everything is just posing. Lotta posers in the car world. Cars make nice fashion accessories. You can use them at the store, on a date, or even at work. The ultimate man purse.

So what is it for you rocket man? You building a cool purse or are you the real deal? Right now it sure sounds like purse.

Pro Stock John
01-21-2009, 09:19 AM
A lot of us appreciate hot rods, customs, musclecars, and late model fuel injected performance cars. A dork to me is an older guy who pulls into the parking lot and tries to impress everyone by doing a lame burnout in an obviously slow car, probably like the original poster. :)

lexman24
01-21-2009, 09:29 AM
Let me assure you, what little hatred I harbor (none for you BTW) is applied much more precisely than you think, and it is not aimed at noobs. New on this board does not mean new in the real world, even if new mattered.

Let me assure you one other thing. If you're the "real deal" then you can not only recognize tin-lust in others, but you can understand where it's coming from. Even if that tin-lust is aimed at a vehicle you personally dislike.

If you don't understand that, everything is just posing. Lotta posers in the car world. Cars make nice fashion accessories. You can use them at the store, on a date, or even at work. The ultimate man purse.

So what is it for you rocket man? You building a cool purse or are you the real deal? Right now it sure sounds like purse.

Well, I have never wanted to copy what other people are doing or to fit in to the lasted thing. And sometimes that makes me unpopular. So I would have to say no, it's not a purse. I truly enjoy building cars with my own hands. Funny thing is, it seems whenever I finish something or even get close to finishing, I sell it because the fun is over. I don't care to stand around and watch people drewl on my cars, I just like the creating them. Of course its nice to be told i'm doing a good job, who doesn't like to be praised;)

Kevins89notch5.0
01-21-2009, 09:39 AM
Does it really matter, what do you care? And also I think you guys have me mistaken, I love me some "real muscle cars" anything prior to 1973. It's the guys out there that drive 5.0 mustangs and 96' camaros and think they are hot shit that could use some schoolin'. Thats all I meant....

Schoolin' on what? Show me a car you can buy for 4K, and then toss on exhaust, slicks, and a blower, for another 2K. 6K total, it runs 11s in the quarter mile, gets 26mpg, and even lasted being driven 1200 miles in 24 hours, followed by being my sole car for over a year.

BTW, those "real muscle cars" were slow compared to new school cars.

Say what you want, but its simply retarded to write someone off by what they drive.

lexman24
01-21-2009, 09:53 AM
Schoolin' on what? Show me a car you can buy for 4K, and then toss on exhaust, slicks, and a blower, for another 2K. 6K total, it runs 11s in the quarter mile, gets 26mpg, and even lasted being driven 1200 miles in 24 hours, followed by being my sole car for over a year.

BTW, those "real muscle cars" were slow compared to new school cars.

Say what you want, but its simply retarded to write someone off by what they drive.

You really are not understanding my point. You did not build your car. You bolted a few things on it. There is nothing special about a car you can build in a day with a few grand in mail order parts. If you want to go fast, then just buy a street bike. IT's not just about going fast. It's more about skills and custom made components and true craftsmanship in "my opinion", but again that is all I am offering here is my opinion. If you want to drive a fast late model car then be my guest, but just don't act like you are the beez neez when your car came off a shelf.

Pro Stock John
01-21-2009, 09:54 AM
I like it all. I just sold my OT '98 Formula (9.4@144, 10.0@138 on pump), my OT '00 Camaro Z/28 (10.0@133 150 shot, 10.9 on motor and pump), and now have a '51 Merc, have a 2010 Camaro on order, and am looking for a musclecar to stuff a gen IV LS3 into to try to run 9's on motor.

Shifty Shifterton
01-21-2009, 10:04 AM
Well, I have never wanted to copy what other people are doing or to fit in to the lasted thing. And sometimes that makes me unpopular. So I would have to say no, it's not a purse. I truly enjoy building cars with my own hands. Funny thing is, it seems whenever I finish something or even get close to finishing, I sell it because the fun is over. I don't care to stand around and watch people drewl on my cars, I just like the creating them. Of course its nice to be told i'm doing a good job, who doesn't like to be praised;)

I'll give the dead horse one last kick before dropping out

So because late model guys work on "shit" they don't deserve praise, even though you like praise for your work. Hmmm. That's interesting.

Even more interesting is that you think your finished cars are only good for letting others drool over. That is so uncompletely what hot rodding is about, especially with late models. However it falls in line with the purse definition outlined earlier.

You're on the right track and might get it someday. But are trying too hard to fit into a hardcore scene that only exists in your mind. Focus on doing what you love, and you might gain respect for others doing the same.

Purse toting scenesters are killing traditional rodding.

SinisterCustom
01-21-2009, 10:13 AM
You bolted a few things on it. There is nothing special about a car you can build in a day with a few grand in mail order parts. If you want to go fast, then just buy a street bike. IT's not just about going fast. It's more about skills and custom made components and true craftsmanship in "my opinion", but again that is all I am offering here is my opinion. If you want to drive a fast late model car then be my guest, but just don't act like you are the beez neez when your car came off a shelf.

Ya know, it WAS just about going fast in the early days of hotrodding......and it was also just guys bolting on parts too, as most didn't have the skills to fabricate until after WWII....but they could swap parts from other rigs.
Today's "hotrodder's", the kids building their tuners and new Mustangs, etc, aren't that much different than the 1st hotrodder's, and while I don't like the newer stuff, I can respect what they are doing.....they have a passion for it.

repoguy
01-21-2009, 10:16 AM
Hey thanks for the life story, I don't care. Late model cars are shit and if you say otherwise, you are kidding yourself. You can all call me ignorant all you want, meanwhile I will continue keepin it traditional. I signed up to be a part of this site to support true hotdodders, maybe I have the wrong site.



Wow! You are soooooo fucking hardcore!!!!

Moron.

Kevins89notch5.0
01-21-2009, 10:21 AM
Ya know, it WAS just about going fast in the early days of hotrodding......and it was also just guys bolting on parts too, as most didn't have the skills to fabricate until after WWII....but they could swap parts from other rigs.
Today's "hotrodder's", the kids building their tuners and new Mustangs, etc, aren't that much differnet than the 1st hotrodder's, and while I don't like the newer stuff, I can respect what they are doing.....they have a passion for it.

Exactly. I've done tons of work on my 89, exhaust, blower, upgrading the fuel system, new heads, cam, intake, flywheel, clutch, transmission, etc, ETC.

autoartistry
01-21-2009, 10:31 AM
Let me see.What should I drive today..41 Chevy Hot Rod,1974 Formula,Harley Road Glide,89 Ranger mini truck.Or maybe I should put them on a trailer so everybody will like me.Wait a minute don't give a rats a$$ what dork likes what I drive as I am fine with whatever has wheels and a motor including my 57 Fiat.
Mike

LastMinuteMark
01-21-2009, 10:42 AM
i feel dumber for reading this whole damn thread

JeffSled
01-21-2009, 11:11 AM
Im down with some muscle cars as long as they have them looking the way they used to back in the day,it's when they put some 20's or some hip hop rims is when I loose all respect. Shit I even started out with a 67 chevelle at 16yrs old and I had a blast with it.

2-TONED
01-21-2009, 11:12 AM
I for one am not AT ALL afraid of muscle car guys, restorers, street rodders, etc... im just not at all scared of em! why would ya be?

WTF?!!

how many members does this site have?
how many of you would pass up a chance to get a (lets say) 70 chevelle SS454 sitting in your neighbors garage & its free! just get it outta there & ITS A CHERRY!!! it only needs a battery & a wash/clean up. HAHAAAA!!!
fuck 99% of you would pull that car outta there sooooooo fast & once washed up you'd love & cherish that car!!!
probably be thinkin i can be a traditional guy & a muscle car guy ..... no wait you would be: A REAL CAR GUY!!!

Pro Stock John
01-21-2009, 11:14 AM
I think that Lexman forgets that buying hop-up parts, bolting them on, changing wheels, adding blowers, customizing the exterior, these are all things that have been going for 75 years. It's a continuum my friend. :)

In before the lock!

Daddyfink
01-21-2009, 11:31 AM
This is some funny shit!

Kustomkarma
01-21-2009, 11:33 AM
I dig cars. There are some I like, some I don't. It isn't determined by any one factor like year, make, or model rather it's the coming together of lots of little factors. You can learn something from almost any ride you look at and talking to lots of different types of people can turn you on to things you didn't even know existed. It's good to keep an open mind. Slightly OT, wow lot's of posts from Orlando for a change. :)

X--GASSER
01-21-2009, 11:51 AM
Wow! You are soooooo fucking hardcore!!!!

Moron.

exactly what I was thinking.....