CLSSY56 Attempting to do body work and paint...

[CLSSY56]

I am well on my way to attempt to make my car look a little better. I'll be flat black when I am done and I only expect the paint to last maybe a year or so. Any way here is the first batch of pics...

http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/The%20Stripping/IMAGE017.JPG
http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/The%20Stripping/IMAGE018.JPG http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/The%20Stripping/IMAGE019.JPG http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/The%20Stripping/IMAGE020.JPG http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/The%20Stripping/IMAGE021.JPG http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/The%20Stripping/IMAGE022.JPG http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/The%20Stripping/IMAGE023.JPG http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/The%20Stripping/IMAGE024.JPG

[CLSSY56]

And to finish of the day...there is some bondo in the rear quarters.....which I just patched the bad areas...
(First time I played with bondo...pretty cool stuff)
http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/The%20Bondo/IMAGE025.JPG http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/The%20Bondo/IMAGE026.JPG http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/The%20Bondo/IMAGE027.JPG http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/The%20Bondo/IMAGE028.JPG http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/The%20Bondo/IMAGE029.JPG

[Nick32vic]

AWESOME!

[fordiac]

looks like you started with a nice car to begin with...

are your arms tired yet?

[CLSSY56]

my arms are fine http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif... I like my little power sander http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Toqwik]

Looks good !! My first car I did all the sanding with a sears belt sander. Those things will tear the bondo off FAST ! Be a nice cruiser when you are finished....good luck Scott

[CLSSY56]

got a little done after work tonight... (sanded some more last night)
http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/The%20Stripping/IMAGE031.JPG
http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/The%20Bondo/IMAGE030.JPG http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/Prime%20Time/IMAGE032.JPG http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/Prime%20Time/IMAGE033.JPG

[CLSSY56]

After pulling 10 hour days and working till dark on the 56.... I think I got in way over my head. It's supposed to get cold all next week and rain this weekend. I think my only hope now is to rattle can the car as it sits and hope I can scrounge enough cash next summer to strip the car completely down and start from scratch. I thought I could pull it off till now....it'll get dark in 4 hours and possiblly rain tomarrow.

[speedaddict]

i gotta question for ya. Did you weld up the holes or just Bondo over it?

[McGrath]

I was wondering if you welded them up too. If you didn't, by the time you get that sanded down smooth, there will be nothing to hold the putty.

Putty should only be used to even out the finish, not to fill holes. As soon as the body starts flexing (driving it) the putty will start to crack around the edges of your holes. Believe me, I tried it once back when I was a kid.

Another thing to remember is not to use too much bondo when filling dents. Dolly the dent out as much as possible because the thicker you put the putty on, the sooner its going to start cracking or falling off. Putty also works a lot better if it is not applied over paint.

I have heard you can get good results applying it over epoxy primer because the primer etches the metal, but I prefer rough finished bare steel. that way the putty gets into the rough finish and creates a mechanical bond, instead of just relying on adhesion.

When your car sets outside going through the Hot/Cold cycle of day and night, the Putty expands and contracts at a different rate than the Metal under it. That is another reason for only using a skim coat of putty.

[mytlo56]

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After pulling 10 hour days and working till dark on the 56.... I think I got in way over my head. It's supposed to get cold all next week and rain this weekend. I think my only hope now is to rattle can the car as it sits and hope I can scrounge enough cash next summer to strip the car completely down and start from scratch. I thought I could pull it off till now....it'll get dark in 4 hours and possiblly rain tomarrow.

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Rent one of those self-store spots for one month and finish it off right. You'll be much happier in the end, trust me.

[Nick32vic]

Good Idea: [ QUOTE ]
Rent one of those self-store spots for one month and finish it off right. You'll be much happier in the end, trust me.

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Bad Idea:[ QUOTE ]
I think my only hope now is to rattle can the car as it sits and hope I can scrounge enough cash next summer to strip the car completely down and start from scratch.

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Your car is awesome man. I think you should just wait and do it the right way like mytlo said. Good luck man! Thanks for the updates too. Glad to see you workin on it.

Nick

[MercMan1951]

My 2 cents and some body filler tech:

Body filler "Bondo" should never be spread thicker than 1/4 of an inch, and shouldn't be thicker than 1/8 inch finish sanded. Filler is for smoothing out small waves or imperfections in relatively straight sheetmetal, not for filling holes or rebuilding rotten rocker panels. (Unless you do work for one of those "budget" used car lots http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

If you need to re-apply filler several times over a low spot to completely level it out after sanding, you didn't get the metal out far enough to begin with or you kept sanding too much off.

I applaud your ambition!

[praisethelowered]

there is a feature called search- type in "filling holes" - i think you'll find out this:

1. nobody puts bondo over old paint
2. you have to bite the fuckin bullet and learn how to weld to do body work correctly
3. you cant bondo over holes
4. rattle can primer over bondo will let water soak into and behind the bondo

sorry for the attitude its great that you are jumping in and all but i come here to learn from guys who know more than me and offer help to those (few) that know less and are trying hard toi learn ten pictures of half assed work is a waste of space

i nominate this fore the anti- tech-o-matic of the year- i gotta go work on my own car for at least a few hours just to make up for the time spent typing this response. . .

[CLSSY56]

Well I just got done painting it black in the dark... I am tired... been working on it since 1 pm and its 9 pm now. I don't have the extra cash to rent a place ( I do have a single car garage...but the outside temp will hinder more painting I am afraid). This is only a temporary fix as the whole car really really really needs to be stripped. I'll get some pics up in the morning of my SNAFU

[CLSSY56]

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sorry for the attitude its great that you are jumping in and all but i come here to learn from guys who know more than me and offer help to those (few) that know less and are trying hard toi learn ten pictures of half assed work is a waste of space

i nominate this fore the anti- tech-o-matic of the year- i gotta go work on my own car for at least a few hours just to make up for the time spent typing this response. . .

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Great thanks a bunch. I already felt like a fuck up because I didn't accomplish what I started, but now I just feel worse....thanks....

[chromedRAT]

that's fucked up, man. the dude is making do with what he can. cut him some slack. some folks have more important things to do than buy a welder and learn to weld trim holes and shit shut, like scrambling to get a fucking job to keep his family fed. not much constructive about that kick in the nuts at all. fuck.

[shoebox72]

PTL, WTF. Everyone starts out somewhere and learns from there mistakes. The guy is trying to get something done with only what limited tools he has. As a matter of fact my first car I did the same way. then the guy who tought me the trade, tought me right from wrong I did the car all over. I'm sure your first attempt at body work was all hammer welded and filed to perfection.

There was no need to totally dog the guy for trying and being proud enough of hmself to post pics here. YOU SUCK.

constructive critisism is one thing but WTF.

Classy56, keep doin what you're doin'.

Billy

[kustomolds]

[ QUOTE ]
there is a feature called search- type in "filling holes" - i think you'll find out this:

1. nobody puts bondo over old paint
2. you have to bite the fuckin bullet and learn how to weld to do body work correctly
3. you cant bondo over holes
4. rattle can primer over bondo will let water soak into and behind the bondo

sorry for the attitude its great that you are jumping in and all but i come here to learn from guys who know more than me and offer help to those (few) that know less and are trying hard toi learn ten pictures of half assed work is a waste of space

i nominate this fore the anti- tech-o-matic of the year- i gotta go work on my own car for at least a few hours just to make up for the time spent typing this response. . .

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NOw, lets think back to when we were all learning to do body work..... I was in the same boat, no one to teach me, shit for tools, but a desire to make his car better and take on a project like this. KUDOS to you, Classy56!

On a side note, please don't leave that sucker out in the rain with that rattle can primer on it. You are going to take three steps backwards to take one step forward. The primer will suck up the moisture and hold it like a sponge.

When you paint it "Flat black", what are you going to use? Straight primer, Base coat, flattening agent in singlestage??? Best best is just basecoat..... My 2 cents.

Keep up the good work, and don't let the JACKASS "Nay-sayers" get you down!!

[McGrath]

that's fucked up, man. the dude is making do with what he can.

Thats kinda what I was thinking. Everybody has to learn somehow, at least I tried to tell him in a civilised manner.
I tried the same thing once and learned the hard way, after it had paint on it.

[Sam F.]

yeah,everybody has to learn"somewhere",,,but hey,i didnt hear any negative shit from the fellas,,,,i wish some one was standing over me when i was 14 and spreading BONDO over some "rough spots" .....with no HARDNER mixed in! hahahahahah

[spark]

Sorry to be on the negative side, but seems a waste of time doing some thing that is going to be less than a good result. Would have been better off buying the right materials, bit by bit, and when ready and organized; do the job. The way it was done will make it harder for the next owner to repair to a good standard.

Better off putting max effort into one panel at a time, get it right and move on to the next panel, takes longer but much better result Trying to do it all in one day just burns you out and because you worked so hard a didn’t get it looking good, you put off doing it again. The beater look isn’t for this kind of car.

Before I get jumped on for running CLASSY56 down, he knows himself that he didn’t get it right. He will learn from this and will get a better result.

Have another go when your more prepared.

[Nick32vic]

Hey Travis man, Im proud of you for at least trying. I am fortunate enough to have my dad there to teach me the dos and donts of building cars. I dont think i would have any interest in cars if it wasnt for my dad. I think it is cool you are learnin on your own, its somethin i dont think i could do. Your car is freakin awesome anyway, its a nice car do begin with so just fix it when you can. Heck if you ever need any pointers (im sure you can get a million here, but..) give me a call and you can talk to my dad. Just PM me for my number. Good job.

Nick

[praisethelowered]

o.k. , o.k. - I feel like an asshole and all. So I checked back in to see if anyone jumped in with some unconditional love. A few of you did so at least we get some balance.

But i'll just stand by my comments in general. Yeah, we all started off on the wrong foot at some point. Sure an "A" for effort. Young kid has spunk and all that. But hell if he spent half as much time reading a few tech posts one mouse click away as he did loading all of those photos that car would be in better shape and he'd be feeling panels with his eyes closed to check the curve and just might be hooked for life. It's just patronizing for people to say "right on" when they make fun of this same stuff when it drives down the street.

I appreciate that so many people here jump in with helpful suggestions. It's why I check in every now and then. Listen to them, I'll go away now.

[McGrath]

"It's just patronizing for people to say "right on" when they make fun of this same stuff when it drives down the street."

Maybe he thought he was doing it right because he posted all those Pics and nobody bothered to tell him different until it was too late.

I saw his post a few days ago when he had it ground down, but didn't see what he was doing with the Bondo until today or I would have said something earlier.

He has enthusiasm and thats the main thing.

[chuck fahr]

So help the guy. Dont rip on him for posting pictures.WTF?
thats what this whole bord is about,helping each other.At least his hart is in it! More than you've got http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Fatchuk]

Hey Classy: I think everybody is trying to give you good advice, your friends are giving you lots of encouragement for stepping up to the plate and geting your hands dirty....anything thing you do..can be fixed and done over again ..you will never learn till you make some mistakes..we all learn from our mistakes..and everybody has to learn...we all don't have somebody that is available to help us all the time, so yah gotta be willing to jump in and learn to swim...don't let the naysayers discourage you..On the other hand I don't think anybody is purposely trying to put you down, they are just trying to give you some helpfull advice..cause maybe they been there before...so....don't get discouraged....I agree with the person who said do one panel at a time and don't go wandering all over the place...start with a fender and do all the work on it and get it as right as you can, before priming and don't leave primer on it in wet weather as primer will soak up water and lift the filler sooner or later..cover the primer with something such as base black..good luck and keep at it.... remember all these old guys had to start somewhere and believe me they all did some shitty work when they started.I can relate to the guy who did the bondo work with out the hardner..did that too about 30 some years ago I thought that when you painted it, that was supposed harden the bondo.didn't work, Months later you could still leave a hand print in the rolled on paint job....that was along time ago...and I learned a lot since then...still make many mistakes and still learn from them and still learn lots from you guys on this board... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gifFatchuk

[MercMan1951]

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give me a call and you can talk to my dad. Just PM me for my number. Good job.

Nick

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You can call me too, I'd like to help. Too bad you're far away or you could get with me and I could show you some stuff. PM me if you'd like my number.
MercMan

[Fat Hack]

Hey, Classy56, you're doing fine! I did a damn PINTO just the way you're doing it when I was 17! I had to do all of the sanding by hand and I spent all Summer on the car...but it looked FAR better than what I started with and I learned alot along the way. I still don't do or care much about body and paint work today, but it's good to have at least tried it once or twice!

I think when you step back and see your car in flat black the way you want it, you'll have something to be proud of. Who cares if it isn't perfect? Cars are NEVER done, and there's almost nothing that can't be re-done later, so just keep going at it, have fun and enjoy the time you get to spend with your ride!

Be the Deaf Little Froggy and you'll accomplish great things....listen to the bullshit and negative comments and you'll bog down and quit! (Old fable metaphor there!) I think you're doing great, and seeing those pictures takes me back to that Summer when I was 17 and had nobody telling me I couldn't do it or that I was a fuck-up...I just worked and learned at my own pace and came out better for it...so will you!

Keep at it, man! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[chromedRAT]

there was alot of good advice in these posts, the thing that pisses me off is that just because you are knowledgeable enough to give someone advice doesn't mean that you should belittle them or otherwise treat them like shit, a la orange county choppers and boyd's show. i've had enough of that bullshit. so maybe he should have asked a few more questions first, it's not like nobody's ever fucked up once or twice. ever notice how members of the HAMB elite are full of info advice AND treat everybody with respect?

[SwitchBlade327]

just a heads up but having bondo over that bare metal with just rattlecan paint on it can do more harm than good, most rattlecan paint won't keep the moisture out and bondo soaks water up like a spong and it'll sit there and rust the metal out, then the bondo falls off. best bet is to use some self etching on the metal, then a goood coat of real primer over it. I think it'd be ebst if you did what was metioned above and get a rental space for a month so you can really get everything done good, you'll end up ALOT happier with the end result. Using the fiberglass reiforced filler or all-metal works too, it's waterproof, but requires more sanding.

[Django]

It's too late now, but I think I've seen self etching primer in a rattle can somewhere...

A for effort dude. You've got the heart and this will get you by long enough to learn to do it right. Hell, I'm 32 and I'm finally learning to MIG weld. Never too old to learn...

[CLSSY56]

Here are the waste of space pics I promised...
http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/Paint/IMAGE034.JPG http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/Paint/IMAGE035.JPG http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/Paint/IMAGE036.JPG

The flat black is paint. I did use some flat black primer and some grey that I didn't take pics of.
http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/Paint/IMAGE038.JPG

I'm just trying to protect the car from this...
http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/Snow1.JPG

As for the bondo, I cheated. The car had some previous bondo and I just stripped the bad parts and re-applied. I also did find one spot that was lead, which makes me curious as what happened. It's on the windshield pillar on the drivers side. There happens to be a shallow dent on that side of the roof as well.

[TINGLER]

Clssy56,
Those final pics look good. The car is getting closer to what you want now isn't it?

Look, don't let things get you down. Just keep plugging along and ALWAYS keep improving it!

I like the results. Plus I like flat black....(I almost feel dirty saying it nowdays).

BUT,( and this is a BIG BUT)...Driving that car in the winter salt will DESTROY it. And that is that....
My Fairlane was owned by a high school kid 5 years ago. I bought it off of him. That kid drove it through West Virginia winters so the car saw plenty of salt. It ATE everything to shit underneath my car.
I had to replace the two front fenders with fiberglass ones just to get the shit right. I had to rebuild a lot of the supporting structure under the hood. ....Cut and weld, cut and weld....The quarters are a mess and eventually will need replaced...again! Plus several sections of the subframe are damaged from rust. This winter the car will be torn down and I will weld and reinforce all those nasty little spots.

Where am I going with this?...After all that work, I will NOT drive this car in any kind of winter weather, at least where salt is involved!
And if the previous owners would have just taken care of the car and not plowed through salt, the car would be in a lot better shape today!
Think about this, everytime a person drives ANY car in salt, all that salt is getting in little cracks and crevises and eating away at the metal. Salt and metal don't mix. One of the best things you can do for the body of that car is to buy a $500 beater S-10 or something and drive it in the winter.

Seriously.

But, keep up the good work! Keep learning and forging ahead.

JT.

[CLSSY56]

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One of the best things you can do for the body of that car is to buy a $500 beater S-10 or something and drive it in the winter.

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I have never found one and when I do, I don't have the cash. If it isn't my car needing a car payment, it's the wife's eagle wagon. So I am just toughing it out till our financial situation gets better.

Ya, I know what salt will do. This is what it looked like when I bought it...
http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/IMAGE017.JPG

After that first winter, it looked like this...
http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/56_4-27-03.JPG

[TINGLER]

Brother,
I can relate to that!
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Later,
JT.

[praisethelowered]

me again, the asshole . .

just checking in on my tech questions from last night (which were nicely answered-thanks all) and this shit is still on the front page.

anyway, i know you all didn't like my input on this one yesterday but here is some well intentioned advice.

there are a lot of ways to learn about cars. One certainly is to jump in and do it blindly without any research, or reading labels on the cans, etc. But you will be a lot more sucessful at solving automotive problems and learning new skills if you research it a bit first. This project of yours is based on techniques that have been around a long long time. I first learned bodywork from a 30 year old library book like i would imagine a lot of guys have. In fact right now i am using a greasy old engine re-build book to help me through some work. My point is that the real weak link in your approach is not "beginners unluck", "lack of experience", or "no father-figure", but the way that you have approached the problem. Learn how to solve a problem in general and everything you do will have a better chance of success.

My bad attitude really isn't personal. I'm sure you are going to get better at this stuff and I am not- and do not want to act like- the gatekeeper to the hot rod world. This post just hit a nerve for me because it seems like that a guy who has posted 250+ times (5x more than i have posted in 2 years) might have come across the basic tips of bondo application if:

1. this board wasn't so clogged with O.T. stuff and pats on the back
2. the guy used the board for what it is best for- learning. post less- read more. check the archives before asking a bunch of people to answer the same questions over and over.respect everyone's time.

anyway, i have given this more time than it is worth.

[CLSSY56]

Let me guess you want me to crawl off into a little hole and die? Don't take it peronal...that's a joke when you say "this shit is still on the front page" and "This post just hit a nerve for me because it seems like that a guy who has posted 250+ times (5x more than i have posted in 2 years) might have come across the basic tips of bondo application". Oh yeah that's "not personal". Ok asshole... I have been unemployed for over a year in the past 2 years (including the last 2 Christmases, which sucks since we have a 2-1/2 year old son). I have busted my ass to find a job, and now that I have found one, I feel lucky (even though it isn't the greatest). I have been jumped by my wife, parents and jokers like you that I should have sold that "piece of shit" that I have worked hard to get. Oh and not to mention that I had to file chapter 7, and I don't own my house anymore (mom and dad bought it, thank God, which now I rent when I have the cash). So I do what I can to get by. Last year the 56 was our ONLY car that winter. Mom and dad loaned us the money for the Eagle in Feburary after it stoped snowing (which we still owe them for). Why does it seem like everytime I post something on here that it isn't to someones liking, that I have to explain myself. I think now the 56 has a damn better chance to survive another winter (which I promised myself it wouldn't see again...another broken promise to let slide back. So personal is all I have got, if you don't like it, don't read it then
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[praisethelowered]

again, it's not personal. i hope you stay on the board and contribute what you can. I didn't ask you about your real estate deals with mom, employment situation or family life and i didn't call anyone an asshole. . . oh yeah but myself because i felt bad after that first post and admitted i was lumping you in with what i see as a bigger trend toward lameness on this board. i don't know if you deserve that or not.

I did criticize your approach to learning new skills and the responses of all the guys who were so quick to jump in and tell you to "keep doin' what your doin. . ." The first response you got to the pic's that show bondo over paint and holes said , and i quote "Awesome".

How many times do i have to say you should stick around, before i stop getting accused of being the cops here? This is way too emo for me now- i promise not to open this post again. go ahead with the last word and i do look forward to seeing your progress.

[CLSSY56]

I appologize for calling you an asshole... or cussing for that matter, that isn't me.

[CLSSY56]

Hmmm, well here is an interesting twist. My wife actually likes it black. It really brings out the chrome and the red rims. I'll post another pic when she gets home from the store. I need to get my hood bird, rear view mirror and license plate back on.

[G V Gordon]

Thomas Edison in an interview stated that he had tried over 1100 times to perfect the light bulb. The reporter asked him "How does it feel to fail 1100 times?" to which Edison answered, "I didn't fail at all, I now know 1100 things that won't work." You done good. Keep practicing. I'll bet most first efforts by the folks here werent any better and some far worse. And YOU did it.
George

[Fatchuk]

Classy.....Yah did good...yah gave her a fighting chance to get through another winter...cause you got bonded to her didn't yah!!!..Good for you......I got a coulpe of sugestions for you to consider to help.....if you gotta drive it in the winter give a good oiling underneath...soak the poop out it with a good oil that won't eat all the rubber mounts out of her.....and leave the chrome off, it just collects all the moisture between two disimaliar metals and cause's all the right conditions to further promote RUST......if you do the best you can to take care of her ..a time will come, when you will be able to make your dream come true....take care of your family,,,,they are most important.....and keep fixin, planin, savin, and collecting and it will happen.........the pics were cool ........

praisethelowered .....why don't you go read a book on human relations...before you measure anybody....Fatchuk

[hillbillyhellcat]

Actually, you probably could have used some All-Metal brand body filler to fill those trim holes. It costs three times as much as Bondo but it's water proof and won't fall out. It's not as good as welding them shut but better than Bondo.

If you have to indeed drive it this winter, I'd suggest -

Removing as much trim as possible to prevent corrosion to it and keeping salt from getting trapped on the underside of trim. Smear a thin film of grease on the bumpers if they have good chrome.

Mix 1 part used motor oil and 1 part linseed oil and spray the undersides and wheel wells, a bug sprayer will work. Avoid the exhaust and rubber mounts. Do the door jambs the same way. Check the floors under the carpet for any holes that could let salty ice water in. A soggy floor sucks.

Put some good snow tires on it, maybe on all four wheels if possible. Studs on the back if it's legal.

Spray some Silicone spray on all the weatherstrip to soften it up so your doors won't stick shut and they'll seal better.

Wash it at the car wash as often as you can.

[Fatchuk]

Classy: Used Motor oil is the Last thing I would use to soak a car with oil....it is full of acid and all the other crap that happens in an engine during combustion with fossil fuels..and will definitly eat all your body mounts.and will not help you any...If I have to oil a car I would use tranny fluid and mix it with some winter grade chain saw oil....or go and purchase some proper under coating product...I don't know anything about using using linseed oil,Studs are dangerous on any pavement they skid like your on ice...And body filler in any hole will eventualy crack and fall out at least any place you have hot and cold weather due to expansion and contraction of the metal....with the temperature changing....my 02....fatchuk

[RPW]

My point (and please, do take this as constructive critics!)
is that its neat the see that 56 and seeing a 56 Chev in the middle of winter would at least make my heart beat fast in bring me some enrgy to go working on my own project (not a 56 Chev but 54 Ford! Hats off for those who dares to drive the pride and joys during the winter too.
Though, I know how hard the salt will beat up a car during the winter (I used to drive some old ones during the winter too but nowadays I have a Jeep during that time...). But I would have used some other methods of saving that 56 from being turn into rust. First off all, salt hurts most where you don’t see it, under the car...
During the summer, take good care in cleaning the car underneath, remove all dry undercoating, grind away all rust, weld up all rust holes... not much money in this, just a lot of work, paint it with good rust protecting primer (Eastwood Corroless) and a following coat with a sealing epoxy (like Eastwood Chassis black is my choice in most cases). Finish up with some good undercoating and then it will last long. During the winter, wash as often as ever is possible and keep the chassis fittings well greased.
Body? A flat paint is a no-no if driving wintertime, will look awful when the salt stains it. High gloss and well waxed, and you will keep up with the rust, keep the chromed parts well waxed as well (if the chromed did look that after a winter, it don’t seems as it was waxed or polished much...). A well maintained 56 Chevy can sure be a joy driving winter time, also it’s a car that its easy to find parts for, as well as it always will raise in value.

http://www.ckos.org/temporary/561.jpg

[Tman]

Now you know what NOT to do. Get that thing through winter in one piece, read all the paint and body tech on the HAMB, come spring strip it BARE, then do the bodywork right. No reason to keep hitting your head against a wall, there are very knowlegable paint guys here, use them. Sure you tired and learned something, something that is wrong. Now is time to go back and do it the right way. Look into local Jr Colleges and Vo Techs for adult courses in the eve. Some places even have financial aid for adult learning courses.

[CLSSY56]

We are suppose to get my mother-in-laws car come december, if so the 56 will hide in the garage during the nasty part of winter. At least now, if we get a nice weekend I can pick a body pannel and go to town.

Here are some pics of what it looks like this morning...
http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/Paint/IMAGE039.JPG http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/Paint/IMAGE040.JPG http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/CLSSY56/The%20Car/Paint/IMAGE041.JPG

[Fat Hack]

I think it looks WAY cooler now, and I'm not a big fan of flat black!

Keep at it, man...you're doing okay for yourself! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif