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Flatdog
08-29-2003, 02:50 PM
Anybuddy used them?How did it work out. Thanks

36-3window
08-29-2003, 03:41 PM
i'm not an expert,but i always thought that gapless rings were for race engines only....greg

THE-SYNDICATE
08-29-2003, 03:44 PM
I have used them in several high end race motors and will never go back! My new street engine that I'm currently wraping up will use the toatl-seal street rings vs. the typical File-2-Fit standard rings. They cost a bit more but really do the job! I went from 2 to 3 percent leakage down to 0 percent on the race motor..... Use total seal rings rather than the Childs and Albert versions!

Good Luck!

THE-SYNDICATE

Flat Ernie
08-29-2003, 03:50 PM
I used Total Seal rings in my last full rebuild of my stroker 351 several years ago. It's probably got 60-80K miles on that engine now (been in several cars/trucks) and still runs strong w/no smoking despite the bores being slightly worn and the normal rings beginning to show their age w/larger gaps. Still minimal blow-by after all these hard miles.

I say go for it. C&A ZGS are also very good, but more expensive than Total Seal.

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TV
08-29-2003, 05:13 PM
Like you guys say they cost a little more,but for me I'll never use std rings again.They seal so much better and don't seam to lay down after long miles,--TV

fastcat
08-30-2003, 01:45 AM
They have less leakdown, make more power, better fuel effiecency. I prefer the gapless top ring from total seal. When using the gapless second ring it does all the above but not as well. When the gapless ring is on the seond groove it causes to much pressure between the two rings and it makes the top ring unseat and puts all of the work on the second ring. If anything the second ring should have a bit more gap than the top ring to allow this pressure to escape. The gapless top ring in my opinion is the way to go.Shawn

Digger_Dave
08-30-2003, 11:17 AM
Two Questions;
1. Are they available for flathead engines.
2. How do they work? (ends overlap?)

OK, so it was three!!

zonkola
08-30-2003, 03:00 PM
Here's a pic of how they're configured, but I don't know if they make 'em for a flathead...

http://www.totalseal.com/gaplesssss.gif

Some more info on gapless rings:

http://www.totalseal.com/gaplesss.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/perf/987.html

fastcat
08-30-2003, 05:00 PM
Total seal makes them for anything. Them actually don't sell them by application they sell them by size( 4.000 bore, 1/16" 1/16" 3/16" etc.) I put a lot of them on briggs & Stratton engines in the past. juss to give you an idea aof what the make them for. their web site is www.totalseal.com (http://www.totalseal.com) Shawn

Digger_Dave
08-30-2003, 07:23 PM
Thanks guys.
They sound like the hot tip.

Bruce Lancaster
09-01-2003, 01:44 PM
Bttt...