Banjo Rear, Modern Shocks, No Welding

[Baron Von Mike]

At BP this past weekend I noticed a modern shock setup on a 40 Pickup rear. No welding was done. The tops of the shocks were bolted to the rear cross member with an extension to let the shock clear the rear cross member's lower flare.

The bottom of the shocks were mounted just below the backing plate by way of an extended piece of metal that was bolted to the backing plate mounting bolts.

Any of this ring a bell with anyone or know where to get such a setup? I wish I had a picture. They are worth 1000 words.

The kit I have requires the lower shock mounts to be welded to the axle housings, plus I have to cut a notch in the lower flare of the rear cross member to get the shock to clear. Yech.

Thanks for any help,

Mike

[Petejoe]

I have the very setup you descibe. Call this guy and maybe he can tell you where to get it.

GENES ROD SHOP (http://www.geneshotrodparts.com/updates&cars.htm)

[Bruce Lancaster]

Also, this setup was stock, complete with bolt-on bracketry, on some '48 Fords. There have been countless aftermarket versions in the past as well. A fairly simple metal bar bolted onto the backing bolts can be adapted in a variety of ways to the various types of shock ends,
Study whats available on pickups at the junkyard, trying to visualize how to connet to a simple piece of metal--you'll get ideas and perhaps find a modern bracket that can go on with just some new holes and trimming.

[Baron Von Mike]

Man, no waiting when it comes to the HAMB.

Thanks.

Mike

[Bruce Lancaster]

I meant to add: look closely at lower spring plates with shock mount attached--one of those with most of the flat part cut away could be bolted to a Ford backing plate flange.

[modernbeat]

Yep, I bought an entire '46 Ford just to get those brackets. Sucked - but I had been looking for three years and that was the only real Ford set I had found.

Still got them. No you can't have them.

[Baron Von Mike]

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Yep, I bought an entire '46 Ford just to get those brackets. Sucked - but I had been looking for three years and that was the only real Ford set I had found.

Still got them. No you can't have them.

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Sure, make me feel like I have a snowball's chance in hell. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Bruce Lancaster]

It's a rare part now, but two 6" pieces of angle iron, three holes for each, and two parts house shock studs would be functionally equivalent.

[Baron Von Mike]

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It's a rare part now, but two 6" pieces of angle iron, three holes for each, and two parts house shock studs would be functionally equivalent.

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Yep, I saw how I could make em. Just a time vs. pay for it kind of thing.

Mike

[atch]

sounds interesting. as i'm not very good at visualizing off of someone else's description, could someone please post a pic of the ford part so i can get a better idea?

tia.

[willowbilly3]

I have a banjo rear end in my yard with stock tube shock mounts that bolt on where the wishbones do. Factory looking, probably a 48.

[Baron Von Mike]

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sounds interesting. as i'm not very good at visualizing off of someone else's description, could someone please post a pic of the ford part so i can get a better idea?

tia.

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Yeah, could someone? I took like 100 pics at BP, but didn't take the one pic I could use on my own ride. Go figure... Luckily its in my head pretty clearly, but a pic will always help.

[rodrelic]

like dis? The shorter boss will go on the bottom to compensate for the bone. Would also have to use longer backplate bolt on the top. Would be for the driver's side, unless creativity got it to fit ahead of the axle on the pass. side. I have only one, can have it if you want it, I still am fixated with the lever shocks http://www.directimagehost.com/is.php?i=64170&img=Dsc02059.jpg
http://www.directimagehost.com/is.php?i=64171&img=Dsc02058.jpg

[atch]

would a '41 have this same piece? if so i might have a set for you bvmike. i'll try to remember to look tomorrow morning before i come to work.

[lakes modified]

there are a number of versions of these mounts. some cast as shown, while others were stamped steel type. some stock factory and some aftermarket. they show up every so often on ebay. have even seen NOS units for sale with the shocks..

[willowbilly3]

OK here is the pictures of the rear end I have and believe to be a 48. It even has a mount for a panhard bar.

[willowbilly3]

otherside. These look like the same ones rodrelic posted

[fab32]

av8's book, How To Build A Traditional Ford Hot Rod, shows those shock mounts. He even tells about shortening one side which come longer than the other in stock application. The book gives stock applications and pictures of the modifications.

Frank

[willowbilly3]

bttt for whoever asked me for the pictures, dam 10 pages deep in one day, gettin' hard to keep up around here sometimes.

[MattStrube]

See that hole in willowbilly's axel housing, that's where my 1940 ford housing had a little nub-dealie for the friction shocks. I have those same shock mounts, but mine are stamped steel. Wish I had the cast ones. Matt

[MattStrube]

Woops, I didn't finish....They must have used the same axel housing casts for some time? However, the 47 rear end is wider than my 40 rear end?? They must have lengthened the housing and kept the same spring mounts in the rear? Man Ford didn't waste anything.

[rodrelic]

BVM, PM reply don't work for some reason. I can mail it to you, tough part will be to find a single match for the other side. Email rodrelic@alltel.net

[rodrelic]

The post war cars at least the '46 parts I have used panhards and sway bars. Front axles had more drop in them, and an offset was built into the wishbone for tie rod clearance. Longer shackles were used to lower some more. Also (if my parts research is correct) the prewar supposedly narrower rear axle will take an earlier truck(Model AA or TT truck) rear spring, it has more spread than the model A car and the same as '37. It is narrower than the '37-48 and need's shims at the shackles but will fit the Model A crossmember.

[willowbilly3]

I think these spring mounts are part of the wish bone or trailing arm.

[Baron Von Mike]

Thanks for all the help. Hopefully I can track some down. People have already PM'd me regarding some. Plus with the pics, it should not be too hard to figure out how to make 'em.

Mike

[AV8Paul]

Here's a shot of that mount on my AV8. Picked up the brackets for $15 at a swap about ten years ago before they became to scarce.