Flame throwers

[graverobber63]

Okay I think this is the right place to get my questions answered!....I've been trying to get instructions on homemade flamethrower kits for months. I really don't want to use an Autoloc kit (as the gas leaks past your rings and could potentially scar your cylinder walls on fire up) and I pretty much want to run it separetly from the motor. I've got dual exhaust (about 2 3/4") and plan on putting bellflower tips soon.

I'd like to run a campfuel system, or maybe propane rigged to an electric solenoid and coil in the trunk.
Can anyone help me? Maybe scan a set of drawings?

http://www.autowonderland.ca/INJECTED-MERC_day.jpg

Thanks
-Adamo

[baytowngreaser]

Is that a propane set-up on the car pictured????

[graverobber63]

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Is that a propane set-up on the car pictured????

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I'm not sure- but it sure isn't running off the motor http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Gas_Tires_Oil]

Here's a parts source...flame thrower parts (http://www.hotrodsofnorco.com/products.htm#flame)

[Fifty5C-Gas]

the way mine is set up is: a 90 something s-10 washer bottle with the washer pump built into the bottle, with a hose run off the bottle then tee'd into 2, then into the pipes, before my spark plugs. i do have the coxster superflames kit, but the wire you are suppoed to put in between the coil wire isnt hooked up, so when i flip the switchit dosent cut off the motor, it just sends juice to the coils...the the washer bottle is hooked up to a momentary button. so when i turn the system on it sends power to the coils, and i hit the button, which sends alcohol into the pipes, and walla, flames.

[Bugman]

Remember that flame throwers are illegal just about everywhere. Having said that, here's another way to do it. Get a fuel solinoid off a fork lift. they run on propane, and use a 12V solinoid as a fuel shutoff. build you own autoloc style ignition box for under $20 following the directions here:
control box (http://www.ennisenterprises.net/so-cheap/flames/)

The car in the pic is gasoline injected. you can tell because the ground is on fire too. Enjoy.

-Jeff

[dixiedog]

Hotrod - what type alcohol do you use and ever worry about the fire traveling back up to the washer bottle?

[graverobber63]

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Remember that flame throwers are illegal just about everywhere. Having said that, here's another way to do it. Get a fuel solinoid off a fork lift. they run on propane, and use a 12V solinoid as a fuel shutoff. build you own autoloc style ignition box for under $20 following the directions here:
control box (http://www.ennisenterprises.net/so-cheap/flames/)

The car in the pic is gasoline injected. you can tell because the ground is on fire too. Enjoy.

-Jeff

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Shit thanks guys... I'm gonna look into that system it looks like it's going to work. Got any more links? the big blue car (leadsled website) had some info but it was very uninformative on the actual set up.

[Brickster]

you can also use nitrous foggers they work well for atomization. You need to tap into a pressureized fuel source.

[PBRmeASAP]

NOS fogger nozzles work but lots of raw gas...and plan on setting the ground on fire!!!

[Fifty5C-Gas]

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Hotrod - what type alcohol do you use and ever worry about the fire traveling back up to the washer bottle?

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regular rubbing alcohol, and thanks for making me nervous about something i never thought of....lol http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[Tony Bones]

Wait a minute. Don't you need to run some source of pressurized air, along w/ the propane to push it? Seems that you'd just get little weeny flames w/ only propane. It'd just kind of seep out of your pipes.

Regardless, talk to suedesled (Marty) about this. He is king when it comes to flamethrowin'...and he uses good old fashioned gas-o-line.

[SlowandLow63]

thats either coleman fuel or gas in the merc because it lights the ground on fire mine are gas injected but its set so its a fan spray and doesnt catch the ground at all

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regular rubbing alcohol, and thanks for making me nervous about something i never thought of

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that sounds like this one guy in my club's setup. hes got this bitch ass a that ive driven before that shoots fire off the motor for now. it seems i told him once or twice to throw a nitrous solenoid into his setup because it is a one way valve but it looks as though he never listened to me

[Bugman]

from what I've heard, Nitrous solinoids don't flow enough gas to get huge flames, just big ones.
A brake like with the end smashed(so it sprays gas instead of pouring gas) works well as an injector for any liquid fuel.

-Jeff

[Fifty5C-Gas]

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thats either coleman fuel or gas in the merc because it lights the ground on fire mine are gas injected but its set so its a fan spray and doesnt catch the ground at all

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regular rubbing alcohol, and thanks for making me nervous about something i never thought of

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that sounds like this one guy in my club's setup. hes got this bitch ass a that ive driven before that shoots fire off the motor for now. it seems i told him once or twice to throw a nitrous solenoid into his setup because it is a one way valve but it looks as though he never listened to me

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Billy, would my A be bitchin, or bitch ass?...im not sure if i would like it to be a bitch ass A....Mike

[Fifty5C-Gas]

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Wait a minute. Don't you need to run some source of pressurized air, along w/ the propane to push it? Seems that you'd just get little weeny flames w/ only propane. It'd just kind of seep out of your pipes.

Regardless, talk to suedesled (Marty) about this. He is king when it comes to flamethrowin'...and he uses good old fashioned gas-o-line.

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The exhaust will "push" the propane out.

[Flexicoker]

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from what I've heard, Nitrous solinoids don't flow enough gas to get huge flames, just big ones.
A brake like with the end smashed(so it sprays gas instead of pouring gas) works well as an injector for any liquid fuel.

-Jeff

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I read (on the HAMB a while ago) that nitrous nozzles atomize the fuel very good, ideal for combustion in an engine, but for flamethrowers it makes big, puffy, very hot flames, as opposed to more squirting (for lack of a better word) type that you see more often.

[2tall2beahotrodder]

isnt there another kit for fuel injected cars? Could of swore ive seen it before...

[SlowandLow63]

there is a kit for fuel inj cars but who drives ariound cars w/ fuel injection nowadays

and as for nitrous solenoids they will flow enough it just depends on the pressure your running and the size of the solenoid in a nother words the "shot" it puts out

[Nads]

Flamethrowers are useless extraneous crap. Sure they have some tradition behind them, but then again some think Kenny G has something to do with jazz.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, a cool car don't need to put on a stupid fire show to attract attention.
In fact the coolest cars are almost invisible.

However if you dig piffery and bunk go ahead and put flamethrowers on your rig.

[Fifty5C-Gas]

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Flamethrowers are useless extraneous crap. Sure they have some tradition behind them, but then again some think Kenny G has something to do with jazz.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, a cool car don't need to put on a stupid fire show to attract attention.
In fact the coolest cars are almost invisible.

However if you dig piffery and bunk go ahead and put flamethrowers on your rig.

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and thats your oppinion, you know the saying, oppinions are like assholes, everyones got one.

[Nads]

You're right, and I've got the runs awful bad right now, no kidding.

[suedesled]

Well guys. I see I got some credit for my flames.

I used a tee off my fuel tank, an 85 Honda Accord pump (95 psi). A pair of windshield squirters from an old dodge dart and ford diesel truck glowplugs.

Voila!! 8 ft. flames, 2ft in diameter.

[Thirdyfivepickup]

How dangerous would flamethrowers be on a car with real short exhaust... say... 3 feet? I've got a friend whose exhaust exits the fender just behind the wheels in his front fenders...

It just doesn't feel right...

[racer5c]

Ok so you guys got me motivated I used the 2 model T coils I bought a couple weeks ago hooked em up amd it works great now ya got me thinkin about takin some old hilborn nozzles and runnin a seperate fuel source so I dont run all that raw fuel through the motor. If this is my last post its you guys fault I blew up

[suedesled]

Injector nozzles don't work. They atomize the fuel and you get little bitty flames. Also extend your tailpipes out about 10" from the body so you don't burn it.

[graverobber63]

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Flamethrowers are useless extraneous crap. Sure they have some tradition behind them, but then again some think Kenny G has something to do with jazz.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, a cool car don't need to put on a stupid fire show to attract attention.
In fact the coolest cars are almost invisible.

However if you dig piffery and bunk go ahead and put flamethrowers on your rig.

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Somethings wrong with you buddy... When was the last time you saw a primered, chopped, channelled 50 merc leaving a cruise night, drop the ass end and shoot some eyebrow torches?
Are you sayin that something like thats not tuff?

[Nads]

You're right it's tuff, tuff to imagine how much damage is being done to it's engine.
I guess the first time I saw flamethrowers in real life I was enthralled, now I just wonder how much attention the thrower of the fl;ames is trying to attract.

I had '62 impala SS with hydrauilics back in 1990, I loved bouncing that thing up and down the street, but now I think I was trying to be 'tuff'.

This is just me talking, ignore what I have to say, I'm turning into my dad.

Have fun, your rules, your life.

Just don't fuck up your expensive engine.

[bootie]

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Flamethrowers are useless extraneous crap. Sure they have some tradition behind them, but then again some think Kenny G has something to do with jazz.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, a cool car don't need to put on a stupid fire show to attract attention.
In fact the coolest cars are almost invisible.

However if you dig piffery and bunk go ahead and put flamethrowers on your rig.

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its easier than telling people to move away from the vehicle

[graverobber63]

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You're right it's tuff, tuff to imagine how much damage is being done to it's engine.
I guess the first time I saw flamethrowers in real life I was enthralled, now I just wonder how much attention the thrower of the fl;ames is trying to attract.

I had '62 impala SS with hydrauilics back in 1990, I loved bouncing that thing up and down the street, but now I think I was trying to be 'tuff'.

This is just me talking, ignore what I have to say, I'm turning into my dad.

Have fun, your rules, your life.

Just don't fuck up your expensive engine.

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Nads read the post again.
I'm asking how to run flamethrowers WITHOUT the motor! I.E propane!!

I wouldn't run it from the motor cause I'm too lazy to change my oil once a week!!

[57JoeFoMoPar]

Although flamethrowers are definitely a thing to attract attention, and the real cool cars don't need that...they're still cool as hell. People love the stuff, and as far as drawing attention and looking cool, they're really hard to beat. When I cruise with some of the guys in my club, Slowandlow63 being one of them, this become painfully obvious. Cruise into a downtown area at night, nobody is checking out my shiny paint, fresh engine or white tuck and roll...they're captivated by the primered '56 Buick and '63 Ford behind me blowing enormous fireballs all over the place. When we park, all the girls are asking about the cars that throw fire...and who doesn't like that kind of attention? And as far as tearing up motors and the danger...we drive hot rods...we take off fenders, door handles, lower our cars so that we can hardly make it over speed bumbs...since when are we putting function over form? Flamethrowers rule

[graverobber63]

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Although flamethrowers are definitely a thing to attract attention, and the real cool cars don't need that...they're still cool as hell. People love the stuff, and as far as drawing attention and looking cool, they're really hard to beat. When I cruise with some of the guys in my club, Slowandlow63 being one of them, this become painfully obvious. Cruise into a downtown area at night, nobody is checking out my shiny paint, fresh engine or white tuck and roll...they're captivated by the primered '56 Buick and '63 Ford behind me blowing enormous fireballs all over the place. When we park, all the girls are asking about the cars that throw fire...and who doesn't like that kind of attention? And as far as tearing up motors and the danger...we drive hot rods...we take off fenders, door handles, lower our cars so that we can hardly make it over speed bumbs...since when are we putting function over form? Flamethrowers rule

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Spoken from the mouth of a genious.
I couldn't have phrased it better myself!

[SlowandLow63]

joe i fuckin love you man however what joe forgot to add was that in his shiny paint 57, tucked nicely under his conti kit will be a small propane set up to blow huge flames just like the rest of the club

cant wait to build it for ya man i got the most crucial part this wknd the 250psi forklift tank

[SlowandLow63]

new pics

http://www.ckdeluxemag.com/showcase/admin/pics/post_1677_4529.jpg

http://www.ckdeluxemag.com/showcase/admin/pics/post_1677_4530.jpg

http://www.ckdeluxemag.com/showcase/admin/pics/post_1677_4531.jpg

[Smokin Joe]

I always wanted flamethrowers for those dweebs that get fixated to your tail lights and hang close on your ass on the freeway for hours on end with their brights on.

Here's a hint for dweebs. If you can read the license plate at night on the freeway, back off and dim your friggin lights or go on by. The guy in front doesn't really like your damned brights in all 3 mirrors giving him a suntan.

I've seen these assholes get so damned fixated on following my tail lights at 3am crossing the desert that when I pull over, they'll pull over right behind me and just sit there for a couple minutes before they realize they aren't moving anymore.

A couple big balls of flame directed at their hood MIGHT just wake these dweebs up, ya think? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

True story from this summer:

Pulled over 30 miles from Winamucca, got out of the car and walked back to the guy behind me. Actually saw his head jerk as he woke up....

"How come you stopped way out here?"

"Well, I had this asshole riding on my ass with his brights on for the last hour. Figured he'd finally go on by if I stopped. So why did YOU stop?"

"Uh, Well..."

[merc-o-madness]

FLAMETHROWERS RULE!! i think imma put em on my car after i rewire it and take care of some other stuff. the buick's are F#@$@#$en awesome. not every car needs em, but they sure do help bring in a crowd. heres a pic of the buick at the brooklyn show

[merc-o-madness]

oh uh here it is

[Smokin Joe]

Yup, that would probably wake 'em up! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[repoguy]

I used to think they were cool until I saw that really nice 62 Olds Starfire that burned to a crisp because of them.

Once I saw that I said to myself "not on my car".

[SlowandLow63]

that buick is anthony from my club i was right next to him my fire wasnt as big at the time r u the guy that just bought harrys merc?? and had the chevy that lost the water pump at the rumblers

[merc-o-madness]

my bro is supposed to get the merc, but we re having problems of where were gunna put it. i own the flt blck 54 merc with the glasss top, yeah we had the chebby with the busted water pump

[SlowandLow63]

o thats cool u remember me then?? i dont think ive seen your merc i cant remember yes or no but thats cool its always good to find out who ur talkin to on the hamb

[PBRmeASAP]

flame throwers suck!!!!!
hahahah, at the hunnet car pile up i burnt the primer off my trunk and melted my tail lights...hate the fuckin things but what a frickin blast they are, guess it time to undo my frenched taillights and fix the melted lens....

[merc-o-madness]

yeah dude

[Fifty5C-Gas]

billy, those are cute little flames u got goin on there.

[Broman]

When I first bought my car I really wanted some torches too, then someone on the HAMB posted some "before" and "after" pics of a super sano-clean early 60's ass-dragger with flame-throwers on it. It was enough to make you sick to your stomache. Such a beautiful car - damn near perfect, then poof, a twisted black piece of garbage. Not a single piece of saveable material on the whole car....

Go ahead and say something like - "Ahh he didn't know how to set it up right...", or "Pffttt, that's not gonna happenn if you are smart about it..."..........I bet he said the same things.

After I watched that car on the MFS video I knew in my heart that I wasn't going to put them on my car - Buicks aren't growing on trees man. The exhaust tips on the one car were glowing so red that it just looked like it was going to explode. If you think that's cool - well, that's you're taste vs. mine I guess, but I think - not so cool.

gas + spark + nice car = bad equation.

...I think I'm turning into Nads' dad too.

[52plybizcoupe]

merc-o-madness check out the uper half of theright flame it looks like el dablo thats sweet

[SlowandLow63]

thanks mike i tweaked em a lil nothin a bigger fuel pump cant produce no more leaks like at lead east oooops

[BadLuckBetty13]

You should add a disclaimer....

DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME CHILDEREN

[BadLuckBetty13]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/badluckbetty13/satan.jpg

YOURE RIGHT!

[Von Scott]

Well hell I guess that leaves us all out cause aren't we all big kids

[BadLuckBetty13]

My point exactly!

[SlowandLow63]

i get my disclaimer from my mom everytime she sees the car

"now don't be shooting those flames anywhere near me or other poeple"

"no mom only at tailgaters"

[BadLuckBetty13]

"no mom only at tailgaters"

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Well I'm sure your mom understands http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[57JoeFoMoPar]

Billy and Ant get more ass than a toilet seat...it must be the flamethrowers because lord knows it's not Billy's haircut, and apparently Ant sold his soul to the devil. I need flamethrowers now. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

-'57 Joe

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Billy and Ant get more ass than a toilet seat...it must be the flamethrowers...

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If flamethrowers will make fat rockabilly chicks want to fuck me, then I definitely don't want them on my car!!!

[Cword]

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fat rockabilly chicks

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There's a proper HAMB term for that...

...orcabilly

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fat rockabilly chicks

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There's a proper HAMB term for that...

...orcabilly

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Actually, I prefer "Fatty Page".

[Nads]

Flamethrowers are the equivalent of metallic disco shirts on Charles Atlas' body.

Flamethrowers are gay.

[merc-o-madness]

whats wrong with metallic disco shirts??? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[SlowandLow63]

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Billy and Ant get more ass than a toilet seat...it must be the flamethrowers because lord knows it's not Billy's haircut,

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wats wrong w/ my haircut ya bastard ur just jealous that u cant grow any more hair than wats on ur head now jk ya little shit

[Chandler]

just remeber...only you can prevent forest fires