Knowing when to say "when"...

[Fat Hack]

Naw, this ain't a drinking post...that's easy to work out...drink till the beer is gone or till they kick ya out...whichever comes first! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

The SMART dude has to know when he's burried in over his head...and has to eventually pull the plug on the UNBUILDABLE PROJECT when it's concluded that it just CAN'T be finished!

Case in point...one 49 Chevy. NO WAY IN HELL to hook up a throttle linkage to the ass-backwards shit I've got going...not that it matters without an open drive axle and BRAKES of some sort. The car will run...if you can round up a three man funny car crew to work the throttle, the starter and the starting fluid...I suppose that represents SOME form of progress...but really just a spit in the ocean!

Working on total shitpiles all week long ruins any motivation to try and sort your own shit out...and I can't do three man jobs by myself anymore. Winter is coming, and the car can't sit around dead anymore.

No car builders for hire in Motown???

Someone's gotta finish this thing...

I'm tired of fighting it...just too damn tired.

[4t64rd]

I'm gonna havta say it again...

"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!" Hell No!

Now if you had a hurricane coming, then you'd have an excuse, take some Aleve, some vitamin B-12 and a big mug of coffee and get out there lil' buckaroo.

[tomslik]

i'm dissapionted with ya.
86 s-10 throttle cable and pedal assy should get ya close....grab the bracket too, if ya can

[plan9]

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"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!" Hell No!



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hehe 4t6frd.... bro, we need to clear this one up...

Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor Dec 7, 1941.

Fat Hack - i can understand your troubles.. whatever you choose to do is all good. alot of work to date has been done by yourself.

[Just Gary]

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"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!" Hell No!



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hehe 4t6frd.... bro, we need to clear this one up...

Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor Dec 7, 1941.



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That's a famous John Belushi quote in Animal House when he was trying encourage Delta House...

Food Fight!!!

[plan9]

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"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!" Hell No!



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hehe 4t6frd.... bro, we need to clear this one up...

Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor Dec 7, 1941.



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That's a famous John Belushi quote in Animal House when he was trying encourage Delta House...

Food Fight!!!

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haha... fuck, alright... i dont remember that movie at all. thats funny as hell though.

[choprods]

Put yours on Ebay and sell i NO RESERVE 49 Fleetline rockabilly RAT ROT[rod http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif] HEAVEN -Mobile -Deluxe!!
It will snag a good premium if you are careful in your description and not unglorify it too much!
Then buy another easier less rusty car.......

[4t64rd]

Definitely hackable carb linkage.

1949 Chevy Fleetline, famous HAMB rat rod, runs

[porknbeaner]

Hack
I'm not graspin the whole throttle deal. And no I'm not beatin' you over the head. Your carb linkage is on the passenger side? and its a push instead of a pull?
Sorry I just got the dumbs today.
Get someone to give you a hand, put the damn thing on a trailer and come after the Galaxie. Drive the hell outa it (but please keep oil in it http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif).
I'll sort the stuff out that's really given you a headach then we'll swap back, or not if you fall tooo deeply in love with the old ford.
OH yea can you snag a bag of cheesburgers on the way. I'm starvin bro. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[jerry]

find an extra long cable type throttle and brackets. run it around to pull from the front of the motor.

you can't give up now!!


jerry

[Upchuck]

I've got a super long throttle cable off a 81 chevy van, must be 3 or 4 feet long
you want it Hack?

[DrJ]

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Hack
I'm not graspin the whole throttle deal. And no I'm not beatin' you over the head. Your carb linkage is on the passenger side? and its a push instead of a pull?



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Sounds like the carburetor's on backwards.... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

(Just trying to make light humor.)

[TINGLER]

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Ha Ha Ha...I thought about spinnin' the carb around, DrJ...but it only fits one way!

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This one is SIMPLE. Make an adaptor that positions the carb the way you want it.....

Thats it, done. No more worries.

I mean its as easy as creating something that looks like one of those 2" carb spacers...the bottom flange bolts in the stock position, and the top flange is rotated around so the carb can bolt on where the throttle linkage hooks up on the driver's side....

I can totally picture it in my head.

[Unkl Ian]

If you turn the carb around,you have to pull from the front to operate it.
What carb did they run on the S10 and Camaros ?








Perhaps there is a reason nobody has done this before.

[jerry]

just take the very long cable and loop it out and around the front of the carb instead of the "s" curve behind it.

might look like hell but should work.


jerry

[porknbeaner]

Hack your simplest fix is a bell crank.
But you can make a cable work I've done it. They'll take a whole lot more abuse than you can imagine.
Why not just build a little doodad that sticks off the correct side of the carb? Ah hell send me the damned thing, I can extend the shaft and get your linkage on the correct side.
Now my next question is this. Who lives close enough to the Hackster to lend him a hand? Its to far to drive or I'd donate a couple of weekends.
I'll find a rear and figure out how to get it there if push comes to shove.
Anyway, put that damned carb in a box and ship it. won't cost you much. I'll figure out a way to make it simple I promise.

[snortonnorton]

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I'm gonna havta say it again...

"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!" Hell No!

Now if you had a hurricane coming, then you'd have an excuse, take some Aleve, some vitamin B-12 and a big mug of coffee and get out there lil' buckaroo.

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oh my god, damn, i had no idea the ME 109's and JU 88's had 25,000 mile range.

[RileyRacing]

I'd help ya fokker, but I'm knee deep in my own crap... who the hell designed the last gen GM trucks... there's so much shit ya gotta move to change a freakin motor mount... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Arrrrggggggghhhhhhh.

BTW, did I mention this truck is for sale. All proceeds go to the help me buy kartbreakers car fund. It's cheep too.

Sorry for the spam Hack. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

doing anything later? like motor mounts? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Jay

[Hackerbilt]

Some of the old Hondas and maybe others had the master cyl on the passenger side of the firewall. The brake pedal was attached to a tube that ran across to the passenger side of the car where it then attached to the master cyl.

Do the same only with the gas pedal...short cable on the RIGHT side as a result.

Look at some older Hondas and Dodge Colt 100's (and others...) under the dash and check out how they did it.
Who knows...you might be able to use the import pedal assembly as it basicly exists, with just the substitution of a spoon pedal for the large brake pedal and a cable attachment on the right hand side.

BTW...you NEVER say "when", unless its FINISHED.
Now...get back to work! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Elrusto]

Is the carb setting up high enough that you could make an arm that extends below the base of the carb.
(See shitty picture attached!)

[Tman]

OR JUST buy a spoon PEDAL AND A LOKAR CABLE AND BE DONE WITH IT! Their cables come in two lengths.

[Ayers Garage]

Make a friggin linkage.

You need a wide linkage that runs across the firewall with an arm on each end. When the pedal moves the left arm, it twists the linkage which moves the right arm.

[choprods]

I gots a 235 chevy carb on my VAC Case tractor and it has a cable to operate it- its the same one that used to operate the Triumph spitfire carb on this SAME tractor......you get where Im going here http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gifBUDDY? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[50dodge4x4]

This is similar to the way it works in both of my trucks. In the 54 the motor sits back far enough that the firewall is even with the carb, on the 50, the fire wall is above the motor. You need look at some of the old setups, factories did lots of weard stuff back in the day. I think all those flat head Mopars had a pivot that changed linkage 90 degrees, you could adapt your cable to that.

There are lots of rear axles out there. I think your just thinking about that Olds and are ready to get rid of this project. When you come to Freeport to get the Olds, bring this one with you, I'll make it work, I need a good challange right now. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Gene

[metalshapes]

Let me see if I understand this correctly...
The Carb goes to full throttle by pulling towards the Firewall, right?
But the linkage bolts up on the Passenger side.
I like Jerrys idea ( a long cable that comes out of the Firewall on the Drivers side, and makes a long wide loop back to the Pass side of the carb ), but now you are pulling to shut it.
So you make the pivot point on the Throttle shaft so the cable can slide trough it ( with a flat piece that the outer cable pushes against ) and the inner cable attaches to a non movable bracket that mounts to the intake manifold, closer to the Firewall.
Instant reverse action pull cable!!
I have seen this done on a Racing Lotus Cortina, and I have done it myself once when I needed a Clutch mechanism to work the opposite way ( I made a cable work in a car that came with a Hydraulic Clutch ).

[metalshapes]

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but that's retarded!

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No, its backwards... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

And its exactly what you need.
It looks real strange because the cable moves around a lot, so it needs to be long enough to allow for the movement,but short enough so it doesn't get caught in the fanbelt or something... ( that would be bad...)

Did I just out Hack the Fat Hack??? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Edit,
Oh, wait, it looks like you are talking about making a full 360 Deg loop with the cable.
I was talking about a 180...

[hatch]

Ever wonder why smallblock chevys with turbohydro transmissions are so popular?...Hmmmmmm. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[oldchevyseller]

can you run a hydraulic?

[hatch]

Been busy...so many bikes...so little time....havin a BLAST! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Woob]

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The linkage works like a normal carb...pull it back to open the throttle...but on the opposite side of the carb. -snip- It bolted in fine, but I can't fathom any kind of cable that can pass out of the firewall, then make a wicked, sharp "S" to go back towards the firewall, over to the passenger's side, then in towards the carb without binding or whipping.

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I'm not that familiar with the set-up, but have you considered running a cable through a small diamter copper tube or maybe some fuel line? You can bend the fuel line into whatever shape you need and let the throttle cable slide in and out of it. Tack or braze a couple of brackets onto the tube/line to bolt it down snug.

... just a thought.

[tomslik]

fathack, will ya just take a pic of the setup ya got so we can see what ya got to deal with?

myself, i'd loop the cable so there's no sharp bends and just get the job done....

[Slag Kustom]

bolt on a cross shaft from a dual carb set up to get to the other side of the carb

[Nads]

Throw in the towel, you gutless wimp.

Move on.

[choprods]

chevy Vans and motorhomes have a long cable abouy 4 feet-otherwise it mounts just like the little 8"long jobs GM used on all other vehicles.

[Hackerbilt]

You say it pulls BACK...but on the right side of the carb?
Do what I said with a crossover pedal and you could use a STEEL ROD to operate the carb its that simple!

STOP quitting all the time...It's only a damn carb linkage!
Pull up your drawers and go fix it man!!!

Drill a hole in the firewall and run a rod from the carb linkage inside the car...make a pedal crossover that will operate the carb!

I'm NOT seeing the complication here or something!!!
What I'm visualizing I could fix in 2 hours max...

Got pictures???

And stop bitching about your job! You just started...what do you expect journeymans wages? Do your job well...eventually you'll get a raise. Thats how it works bud! Geezzz...ya wouldn't know but your the only guy around who has to talk himself into going to work.
Deal with it! Thats what everyone else does!

Yes...I AM suffering from PMS. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[tokyo]

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Throw in the towel, you gutless wimp.

Move on.

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yeah no doubt...mount a transverse rod (old cars used them) that swivels on the firewall...problem solved..but if your still fed up..leave it and move on...
tok

[Hackerbilt]

EXACTLY Tokyo!
You could run it inside or outside the firewall HACK...although it seems your space is limited so inside might be better.

[Morrisman]

I'm not sure if this post is a wind up, but I'll answer anyway: Go to your local bicycle or motorcycle shop, ask for a long brake cable, and go from there.

If you can't connect a throttle cable to a backwards carburettor, then maybe you should drink a few more Budweiser. Get it, Bud 'wiser'???
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[Threedeuce56]

bicycle brake cables make great throttle cables,they come in many different lengths,and are easy to find!.49 to 51 mercs with the flatheads have a throttle linkage with a "cross shaft",if you need to look at one for reference,purposes.p.S. don't give up ,just take a break and do somethig completely non car related for a while,works for me.if i lived close to you i'd be over to help,but i'm a looong way away!

[Threedeuce56]

who needs brakes on a ten speed anyway!that's what yer feet are for,or the neighbour's hedge! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Hackerbilt]

Quote "Sorry to bother y'all with my problems.

Done."

Now Hack...don't go trying to head down that road!

Your just depressed over something and your letting it get to you. You do that now and then...but then you turn around and cheer up a little and your back to normal again.
In other words...your just like the rest of us!

Your just letting the stress get you down. Leave the car alone for a week...sort yourself out and then get back too it when you can stomach it. Whats the rush this late in the year anyway? You won't be driving it during the winter will ya?!?!
You'll get the darn thing hooked up...don't sweat the small stuff man.

BTW...my PMS is over now. See? We ALL have our moments!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Hot Rod To Hell]

Hey HACK.... if you would've come to Flint with Bryan last night, and taken part in the "Flint-town" shenanigans we had goin on I'm sure it would've cheered you up...

[JimC]

Mr. Hack, sir?
Look at 61-62 Chevy full size cars.
Throttle linkage from floor mounted pedal comes through floor to cowl mounted rod.
From cowl mounted rod to carb.
should not be too tough to rig something similar with longer cowl mounted rod.
I have a 62 that wont be used here, want it?

[Hot Rod To Hell]

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Thanks, Bill...you're right! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Ha Ha...I heard something about a full contact Dodgeball game, Steve... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif




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Oh, but you didn't hear anything about the Home Built CO2 powered "Tater Gun"??? (That was built at the Tatty shop, right before Bryan's eyes!)

[JimC]

Another view.
The bracket should not be difficult to fabricate, nor should the rod.
a shoulder could be added to each place on the rod where it extends through the bracket to keep it aligned sith the carb linkage,
Jim

[Hot Rod To Hell]

Well of course we had no "Taters" so it was Rocks, Rubber Balls, capped lengths of PVC, anything we could find to use as a projectile! (Right in the middle of Downtown Flint! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif)

[Hot Rod To Hell]

BTW: I gave Bryan a tour of my little "Workshop" that you're free to use anytime I'm at work, and he thinks you could get some shit accomplished there...

[Hot Rod To Hell]

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Me...turned loose with tools and shit???

Disaster waiting to happen! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif



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Yeah, but at least you'd be on here posting about all of the shit you fucked up, instead of just saying "Waaahhh Waaahhh! I can't do it!!!" http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[CURIOUS RASH]

<font color="green">You're wearing me SMOOVE! </font>

[zman]

What happened to "the mighty michigan hack thrash" ?

I thought you guys were gonna fix this shit....

[Bigcheese327]

Hand throttle off a garden tractor?

[dvlscoupe]

Hey Hack...I got the Chevy runnin and the water main fixed...so I'm pretty much open to help ya out. Just let me know.