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buzzard
09-21-2004, 12:42 AM
I have Rhoads Lifters in my 327. One of them is ticking up to about 1800 RPM. When the RPM's get higher, it quiets down. I assume it's because it "pumps up" at that point.

MarkX told me about an old guy trick of putting about half a quart of automatic tranny fluid in the oil. He said run it until the ticking stops than change the oil and it's good.

Has anybody done this? Did it work? I hesitate to put something in the engine that doesn't belong there (except pencils), but if it'll fix it without having to dig in the motor for new lifters, I'm game.

sodbuster
09-21-2004, 12:45 AM
Never heard of that, but I use "Lucas" oil treatment in a "Farm Truck" that I have that used to tick and it sounds and runs good now. It does kinda get gummy in the winter though.

Chris Nelson
Kansas

Crease
09-21-2004, 01:35 AM
Buzzard,

Have you messed with the lifters lately? I had a similar issue on my 350. All of the lifters were working great except one. I had adjusted all of them cold and it worked just fine for all but one lifter. I warmed it up a bit and then adjusted it. It resolved the issue. Just thinkin it would be better to check things out before adding the tranny fluid.

Fat ASS Whitewalls
09-21-2004, 02:29 AM
That's an old trick, might even call it traditonal! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif It'll work, and won't harm the motor. Brake fluid works real good for slipping auto trannys also. Dean

LIL' AL
09-21-2004, 02:37 AM
That and "Marvel Mystery Oil" work really well in older motors.I've used both for years.Oh yea,leave it in. Won't hurt a thing 'yil next change.LIL"AL http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

yorgatron
09-21-2004, 02:37 AM
Rislone.

QQMOON
09-21-2004, 02:49 AM
Yes it works esp on late model motors shuts them up

gridley
09-21-2004, 07:54 AM
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That's an old trick, might even call it traditonal! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif It'll work, and won't harm the motor. Brake fluid works real good for slipping auto trannys also. Dean

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Sorry but putting trans fliud will damage the engine. trans fluid is made to lube and also grab. it will tare up your brgs after awhile.
brake fluid in a trans will swell the seals. and brake them down. you will lose your trans.

Traditonal? ALL OF THE (OLD TRICKS) ARE FOR SELLING YOUR CAR! TO GET IT TO WORK FOR A LITTLE WHILE! THAT IS ALL! THIS IS NOT A PERMAMENT FIX!!!!

Fix your engine problem. Dont try to cover it up. You'll be sorry if you do.

Fat Hack
09-21-2004, 08:03 AM
Aren't Rhoads lifters SUPPOSED to be noisey???

(Remembering the ads where the dude is sitting on his hood doin' a little boogie under the caption "Listen to the sweet sound of Performance" or something like that).

Crane made a quieter version called "Hi Intensity" if memory serves...

Anyway, a little trans fluid in the oil MAY free up a stuck lifter, but as has been mentioned, check the adjustment FIRST. I've quieted down ticky engines at work with "that old trick", but probably wouldn't do it on my OWN car!

(Life at a used car dealership opens your eyes to a whole new world of mechanical compromise! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif)

MBL
09-21-2004, 08:24 AM
It may work if the lifter is simply gummed up. There are several things that could be wrong with a lifter that limit is full function...they are easy enough to replace....well maybe a little tedious with the heads/intake still on but worth doing if there is actually something wrong with the lifter....try the fluid first but if it don't work...fish the lifters out and drop in some new ones.
Tim
MBL

DIRTYT
09-21-2004, 08:58 AM
ive prob put more trans fluid in engines then in transmissions. but then again i used to work at the used car dealer with fat hack. ive never had a problem. used that "trick" on one of my old buick big blocks a few years back. but what i found works better is a heavier oil. as in a 20w50 or a strait 30 weight. i have got a lifter to pump back up with this method as well. But with the tranny fluid i have allways been told it wont hurt any thing. but some to think of it i used to add about half a qrt in with my oil change's in my old civic and thats spun a bearing and thru a rod. So i would learn from my mistake and stay away from adding that. But before u go adding junk to the motor i would check the adjustment as stated by every one else. u dont want to crack a rocker arm like i did trying to be a bad ass at broken dream cruise in your mullet mobile http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Bryan

**DONOTDELETE**
09-21-2004, 09:51 AM
I'm with yorgatron....I had a '66 Buick that the lifters went crazy in. The Rislone treatment solved it.

tommy
09-21-2004, 10:06 AM
I agree if the problem is gummed up sticky lifters, Rislone will probably fix it. If it's more than that it won't.

OutLaw
09-21-2004, 10:13 AM
Well the problem is not that the lifter is gummed up but it was excessivly over tightened and run that way for a while. I told him its worth a shot.

fab32
09-21-2004, 10:21 AM
I got a "formula" from an old guy that lived around the corner from me quite a few years ago to quiet the lifters in Pontiac engines. (these have not adjustment, you just screw the rocker nut down to the end of the threads) The dance goes like this. Drain the oil and empty the oil filter and replace it. Put in 2 qts of cheap 10W oil, a quart of Rislone, and 2 qts of automatic tranny fluid. Start the car and let it idle (do not put the car under power) Place a cardboard in front of the radiator so the engine will operate at an elevated temperature. Run it for about 15 minutes. Drain the oil, empty the filter and put in 5 qts of 10w or 20w oil and drive the car about 10 miles at low speed (no harsh acceleration). Drain the oil, replace the filter and add fresh oil of the weight you normally run. I can't remember how any times I've done this on engines that you couldn't get lifters to quiet down and there were no further problems. You have to keep an eye on the temperature while it is idling and the cardboard is in place but I've never had one boil over, just get hotter than normal.
The Rislone is the key ingredient along with the trans fluid.

Frank

buzzard
09-21-2004, 11:28 AM
Thanks for the input guys.

lesabre59
09-21-2004, 12:09 PM
Had the same problem with my Nailhead when i got it running from the sitting in a storage lot for 15 years....Marvel Motor Oil, worked like a charm! Thats the same motor that was in it when i drove it to the roundup year before last.

CURIOUS RASH
09-21-2004, 12:15 PM
<font color="green">Oh, I like lifting knockers...

Wait a minute, oh you guys are talking about knocking lifters, not near as much fun.

Rislone. </font>