Whats up with over seas car sales?( Ireland?)

[296 V8]

I have the boss’s car for sale on the internet. Got an email from a, what sounds like a car locater in Ireland. Says he has a customer. Asked for further details on car. Says willing to pay for car up front. Dose this sound like the start of some bullshit scam? Do they even allow old cars in Ireland? I have never heard of any old cars or hot rods going there.

[briggs&strattonChev]

why did you post this 5 times?

[RagDoll]

I sold a 68 GT Fastback to a collector in Scotland a couple years ago. Very straightforward. Had someone come pick up the car with cash in hand. No problems. Still a good idea to be wary.

[296 V8]

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why did you post this 5 times?

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couse I thought it would be cool. dahhhhhhhhh

[briggs&strattonChev]

now its only posted once..................??????? I dont get it lol

Whatever you do, make sure you get the money IN HAND before you send anything away, the last thing you wanna do is lose the car.

[FLAT-TOP BOB]

i sold a 64 impala ss to a man in england a few years ago and had his money through paypal in 15 minutes. he had a shipping company come by to pick it up a few weeks later. the deal went great and we had no problems at all!

[296 V8]

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now its only posted once..................??????? I dont get it lol


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The monitor flickered just before I hit continue and BAM it was up there 5 times. I deleted as fast as possible. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif wacky

[VespaJay]

Beware. This could be a version of the Nigerian scam that's been going on for years. Do a Google search for "Nigerian Scam" or "Advance Fee Fraud" and you'll learn more. Basically, they send you a (phony!) cashier's check for MORE than the asking price of the vehicle, and ask you to send the difference. The cashier's check appears genuine, but by the time your bank discovers it is counterfeit, you've already sent the dough to the scammer and the bank puts you on the hook for the cash.
If they say they have a third party that owes them money, and the third party will send you a big check, just delete the email.

Scamming like this is a large part of Nigeria's national economy. Be on your toes, they target all kinds of items for sale on the net, not just vehicles.

[296 V8]

So far they have offered 100 less than asking price. Have not asked for photos.???????I dont like it.

[VespaJay]

Here's an excellent explanation of how the scam works from good 'ol Snopes:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/scams/carsale.asp

[296 V8]

Thanks, but Ireland??? anybody???

[klazurfer]

Can`t see how this could go wrong .. I bought a pair of early Rivieras from US last winter . Paid both up front. When the sellers had the payment in hand , I had my shipper pick up the Cars. No way would I have gotten those cars unless my money was for real. The only dude running a Risk was me , so as the seller ,you should not worry !! . Just dont let the car leave your lot untill you are sure that the Payment is secure . Ask them to transwer money to you bank-account , Nothing more .. nothing less !! DO NOT accept a Check !!
( Unless your bank can GARANTEE that it is valid ... Usually takes 10 - 30 Days .. ) AND , Ask for his phone # so you can Talk to them ... No phone # , NO DEAL !!!! Hope this was of some help .. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[choprods]

We got HAMBers in Ireland-RED OXIDE maybe?
Give them the benefit of the doubt.
Id do it this way-go along with them and arrange the sale and plan the Details/cost of pickup/transport from your place to theirs.
BUT- tell them up front that the car will have to stay in your posession till you financial institution is assured the transaction is valid[however long that takes]. ESCROW IF YOU LIKE.
If they balk ,you know what they are like.

[Lionheart]

Klazurfers right---Get a phone # and spend a buck or two and call him. NO phone NO deal.

I just sold a 66 Malibu to a fella in AU. and after phoneing him and telling him the cond of the car, i then sent him pics and a photo copy of the title, as he needed to know i was on the up & up.

I started a NEW checking account, just for the purpose of him transfering a money-wire bank to bank without getting my main checking account #'s.

Everthing went smooth as clockwork and after his money came in, he had the car picked up within a couple weeks by a shipper of HIS chooseing.

So phoneing him and getting a wire money transfer (no check)is the key. HE is the one that has to hope i am honest, and gets the car described to him. We both turned out to be reputable people, so it CAN work. Good Luck

[Flat Ernie]

There is a Nigerian-type scam originating in Ireland, but it is just like the Nigerian scam - he wants to pay you double, etc.

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I started a NEW checking account, just for the purpose of him transfering a money-wire bank to bank without getting my main checking account #'s.

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Good idea & as soon as the money is in that account, wire it straight to your regular account (or cash out) before moving the car.

Redoxide is in Scotland, but V8Minor is in Ireland I think.

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[DelinquentDoll13]

i had a car up on ebay, and a scammer hit the buy it now. so now we had to relist it. he said he was a car dealer in africa, but his address was london, singapore with no zip code?

Good luck
~Josie

[LIMEY]

I've bought a bunch of cars from the US over the years & just wired the cash from bank to bank no problem, if he's for real he will go along with your request other than that he's just going to be a pain in the ass.
V8 minor is our man in Ireland maybe he could check the guy out for ya, if you got his name & phone # it would be easy to see if the guy is for real or just a scam!

[296 V8]

thank alot guys, The HAMB rules.

[J Man]

Sounds like the scams going on. Check the persons feedback if you can get ahold of their e bay name. I would also make them pay in a international postal money order for the deposit(if they hae those) and cash for the balance when they pick it up.

[redoxide]

From the way you worded your post I sounds just like thwe Nigerian scam. they send cheque, there shipper collects you forward cash etc etc .. DEFINATE SCAM do not let the car go and do not accept the Money order. like some one else mentioned you will be left with no car and a big chunk of cash to pay the bank.. Its the first time ive heard of it comming from Ireland though but it still stinks ..

[fatassbuick]

When I was selling my coupe, a guy from "England" emailed me several times, sent me to a web site of his, claimed to be a HAMBer. When it was time to close the deal, he stopped emailing me completely..wouldn't even respond to a "please just let me know if you're still interested or not so I can relist!!!" email. Eventually, a cool German dude that was in Rocket Automotive the day my car first fired ended up handing me the cash personally after several phone calls and emails.

[34 GAZ]

What sort of car locater offers 100 less than asking price.
Look at all the cost,s involved to get your car to Ireland.
A genuine locater would try for more.
i,d say forget it.

[tunglegubbin]

A friend here in Sweden had an old Volvo for sale earlier this summer, on the net.

He was contatced by a dealer in Britain who had a customer who was interested, at his asking price.

The part where in got funny was that he already had a check from his customer for a higher amount than my friend was asking. My friend was to cash it and give the leftover cash to the truck driver who was to pick the car up...

I told him it was probably a scam and he told the dealer the same, he never heard from him again...

[dabond]

I posted my old truck on craigslist, and recieved this. Do any of you Limey's know this guy? Should I run?

Date:Mon, 13 Sep 2004 06:22:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: "nick kelvin" <nickkelvin16@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book
Subject:60 Chevy PU
To:dardenbond@yahoo.com


I SAW UR ADVERT ON THE WEB,SO I AM INTRESTED IN BUYING YOUR 60 Chevy PU I
AM BASED IN LONDON{ENGLAND},I WILL PAY YOU $1,100, IF MY OFFER IS OKAY
WITH U DO GET BACK TO ME ON THIS EMAIlADDRESS;nickkelvin@yahoo.com,OR U
CAN GET ME ON MY CELL PHONE NUMBER 44-7840533570,I WILL U TO SEND ME
PICTURES OF IT TO KNOW IF ITS IN GOOD CONDITION.THANKS
NICK KELVIN

[LIMEY]

I just called the guy interested in your truck &amp; they say the number is not available, e-mail him &amp; get his land line number &amp; i'll speak with him for ya.
Kev.

[four-thirteen]

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I SAW UR ADVERT ON THE WEB,SO I AM INTRESTED IN BUYING YOUR 60 Chevy PU I
AM BASED IN LONDON{ENGLAND},I WILL PAY YOU $1,100, IF MY OFFER IS OKAY
WITH U DO GET BACK TO ME ON THIS EMAIlADDRESS;nickkelvin@yahoo.com,OR U
CAN GET ME ON MY CELL PHONE NUMBER 44-7840533570,I WILL U TO SEND ME
PICTURES OF IT TO KNOW IF ITS IN GOOD CONDITION.THANKS
NICK KELVIN


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thats funny, most guys from england speak english quite well. and notice the all capital letters, except for where he cut and pasted the text for your truck. this dude is fake.

[LIMEY]

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I SAW UR ADVERT ON THE WEB,SO I AM INTRESTED IN BUYING YOUR 60 Chevy PU I
AM BASED IN LONDON{ENGLAND},I WILL PAY YOU $1,100, IF MY OFFER IS OKAY
WITH U DO GET BACK TO ME ON THIS EMAIlADDRESS;nickkelvin@yahoo.com,OR U
CAN GET ME ON MY CELL PHONE NUMBER 44-7840533570,I WILL U TO SEND ME
PICTURES OF IT TO KNOW IF ITS IN GOOD CONDITION.THANKS
NICK KELVIN


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thats funny, most guys from england speak english quite well. and notice the all capital letters, except for where he cut and pasted the text for your truck. this dude is fake.

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Another clue: he mentions cell phone...unless he visits the States quite often he wouldn't use the term "cell" its just not heard over here, everyone here uses the term "mobile".

[v8minor]

I've bought a bunch of cars from the US over the years &amp; just wired the cash from bank to bank no problem, if he's for real he will go along with your request other than that he's just going to be a pain in the ass.
V8 minor is our man in Ireland maybe he could check the guy out for ya, if you got his name &amp; phone # it would be easy to see if the guy is for real or just a scam!
I just seen this if you pm me details i will see if anyone knows , have not heard of many dealers finding cars for people ,sounds strange.

[marq]

From the way you worded your post I sounds just like thwe Nigerian scam. they send cheque, there shipper collects you forward cash etc etc .. DEFINATE SCAM do not let the car go and do not accept the Money order. like some one else mentioned you will be left with no car and a big chunk of cash to pay the bank.. Its the first time ive heard of it comming from Ireland though but it still stinks ..
scam scam scam dont do it dont even think about it scamscam scam......get the message?......Marq

[V8 Pilot]

I keep hearing the same thing on other yank forums there all scams dont take any notice you will loose your car and your cash as the the cheque/bankers draught wil clear then a few weeks later the bank will ask for there money back as its forged

Dave Crees

[v8minor]

I keep hearing the same thing on other yank forums there all scams dont take any notice you will loose your car and your cash as the the cheque/bankers draught wil clear then a few weeks later the bank will ask for there money back as its forged

Dave Crees
just remember the biggest bank raid ever happened here over xmas.. so watch out for northern bank notes .

[redoxide]

Get a telephone Number and contact by phone .. better the cost of a call than loose a bundle.. Im located in SCOTLAND and do purchase a pile of parts from the USA ... BUT I do believe there are scams set up to sound like they originate from basically anywhere in the world..

Who would by a car without seeing as many pics as possible or burning the ear of the transatlantic seller with numerous calls..and not to a MOBILE number ..

Get his POSTAL CODE and use an address finder site .. you often find numbers on it too.. http://www.switchboard.com/ I always look up the numbers on this site and call folks out the blue.. never realy had a bad reaction and it gets them on there toes..

Personally I would treat this deal as shady.. It doesnt ring true .. If its too good to be true it probably is .. I would keep the car ..

[A32Flathead]

Just seen this, sorry for the late reply, its a scam....a couple of my friends got exactly the same emails for 2 totally different vehicles (1941 Ford & a 1986 Honda motorcycle) from a 'car locator in Ireland'

Scam....scam....scam....and its dodgy too....


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[296 V8]

Wow

This deal is so long gone I forgot about it, I don’t even work for that guy any more. I was told he let his kid sell the car (he does that when the spoiled brat wants money) im glad im gone from there. :)

[attitudor]

Yes, there have been some scam posts from "England or Scotland"!!! This thread used to be on Finnish discussion forum a while ago and it happened to my friend when he was selling his STW. He also noticed poor English in the letter.

http://www.overdrive.fi/forum/viewtopic.php?t=61560

[redoxide]

Yes, there have been some scam posts from "England or Scotland"!!! This thread used to be on Finnish discussion forum a while ago and it happened to my friend when he was selling his STW. He also noticed poor English in the letter.

http://www.overdrive.fi/forum/viewtopic.php?t=61560

reputed to be from England or Scotland, You will find they all originate from Eastern Europe, or Africa. There all pretty obvious to spot, from having cut and pasted sections from your add, Poor Enlish, offer to pay in advance an excessive ammount via money transferr or western union etc, having there agent collect the car, Some of the fellas over here respond to there offers to buy with spoof e mails making the scam artist jump through hoops thinking hes onto a good deal . then drop them like a stone.. ( use a 2nd e mail address for that one and cancell it when your finished playing with the scum.

Another thing to do is take there E mail address and subscribe them to all the junk mail, sex web sites, advertising spam, you can .. that should keep them occupied ..

[muffman58]

I have the boss’s car for sale on the internet. Got an email from a, what sounds like a car locater in Ireland. Says he has a customer. Asked for further details on car. Says willing to pay for car up front. Dose this sound like the start of some bullshit scam? Do they even allow old cars in Ireland? I have never heard of any old cars or hot rods going there.
I think the scam usually goes '' I`ll send you 10,000 for your cars asking price of 8,000 when you get the check contact shipper & give them the extra money. I get this all the time on the net when I sell cars. If you get a check and it clears your bank, your off the hook! I sell almost all to overseas buyer`s and have never been took! Recently sold a 74 TR6 to a guy from Korea!