View Full Version : Having stencils made for shop truck door.. Tell me what you think

08-24-2008, 01:49 PM
I like em

The actual stencil won't have as much detail on the torches as they will most likely have to be totally blacked out.

08-24-2008, 02:16 PM
Looks good, but I say keep as much detail as possible - looks great like that. What about silk screening them on or having somebody hand paint it?

08-24-2008, 02:21 PM
who painted the belt on the blower of your dads car? Could you have them do it? If you do use a stencil, at least have someone outline everything with a pinstripe brush.

08-24-2008, 02:28 PM
Font looks like generic Mall T-shirt shop fodder.

08-24-2008, 02:38 PM
What kind of stencil are we talking about? Machine done, hand cut? I agree on the font style also. Will lots of detail be lost on the lettering also? From a readability standpoint it is a bad font choice. The fancy scroll to the first Caps on the wording makes the image off balance. Also if the torches are to be "totally blacked out" the recognition of them also gets shady.

08-24-2008, 02:39 PM
Well, you asked. I think the font is too frilly for a metal-fab shop. Steel, cutting, welding, noise, heat, sweat. That font say's none of that.

Del Swanson
08-24-2008, 02:44 PM
Well, you asked. I think the font is too frilly for a metal-fab shop. Steel, cutting, welding, noise, heat, sweat. That font say's none of that.

I agree. It'll be too hard to read further than a few feet away. The three cardinal rules of sign painting, readability, readability, readability! I like the torches though.

08-24-2008, 02:46 PM
i'm not keen on the X torches, put something in the middle that you have done/built. what ever font you use it should be clear from a long way off.

08-24-2008, 03:08 PM
By "stencil" are you referring to a hand-cut stencil board (like we all remember from school & that silly look-what-I-did-to-my-walls-at-home crap) or do you mean paint "masks"? There is a huge difference in both application and finished effect.

A "stencil" is essentially a board (stencil board, cardboard, masonite, whatever) that you would place over a surface and then either spray through or pounce upon with a stencil brush. A paint mask on the over hand can be quite different even though it produces pretty much the same end result. Because most paint masks are produced by plotters (vinyl cutters) onto self-adhesive vinyl they can be much more intricate (and don't have that inherent problem stencil's have of needing "bridges" to hold the centers of things in place).

Or do you really mean vinyl signage?

Based on your attached image, and because it has "closed" loops in the lettering, I'm guessing you mean vinyl signage. If that's the case, I'd suggest as stated above that you find yourself a local sign guy (or two or three) with some knowledge of design and see what he / they come up with. I agree with Tman, LOWCAB & Tbomb428...the font doesn't at all fit the business application. Also, one of the cardinal rules of good sign design has been violated: NEVER PLACE ITALISED FONTS ON AN ARC! On the top arc the leading letter is almost upright while the ending letter is falling over. No offense, but you might as well have used all upper case Old English (another sign no-no).

I've cut tons of paint masks with my plotter (it's the primary thing I use it for ~ no vinyl lettering for me) and I know from experience that any decent plotter will easily cut all of the detail in the torches with no problem. I've cut stuff as small as 1/4" tall lettering.

Seriously, give it some more thought. But then what do I know? I've only been making my living doing signs for the past 39+ years. Just remember, you asked, "Tell me what you think?"

08-24-2008, 03:15 PM
Well, you asked. IMO the lettering is too hard to read and too girly. The idea of a graphic is to be seen and easily read.
Same with the torches. I had to look closely to see what they were. The whole trhing needs to be heavier and more understandable with a quick glance.

08-24-2008, 03:18 PM
Would look good on a t-shirt, bad on a door.

08-24-2008, 06:23 PM
Would look good on a t-shirt, bad on a door.

thanks for th input guys. I usually use OLD E when doing my lettering and was going for something different.

Going back to the drawing board. Torches are staying though :D

pimpin paint
08-24-2008, 06:40 PM

I'd go with one of those cheepie projectors that will blow up an image
to five-ten times its' size, shoot the image onto the door shell and paint
all of the detail you want into the signage. All of those vinyl or computer
generated masks are kinda bullshit for a one-off deal, unless you 'got money to smoke, most look like a stencil, as well!
The round hand script isn't, as pointed out, a great choice, but can be
improved by inlargement. I like the torches, as well!
Hell, any half-assed sober pinstriper should be able to clean this up for you, onced ruffed in.

Swankey Devils C.C.

"Meanwhile back aboard The Tainted Pork"

08-24-2008, 06:47 PM
I agree with picking a different font for the letters....when we designed a logo for my business, we made the mistake of picking a cool looking "tribal" type lettering. We had my truck, trailer and t-shirts done that way. About the second month of "what does that say" we changed the style of letter to one that was easily read from a distance. Big difference! Just something to think about. Like the torches!:)

Cajun Kenny
08-24-2008, 06:52 PM
go with the black and white! switch to old english lettering..haha!

08-24-2008, 06:59 PM
I would choose a more manly font... and you might trade out a torch for a hammer. You probably wouldn't be caught in the shop using two torches at the same time?

Old English is too hard to read. Do something different.

Let me know if you need a little help.

08-24-2008, 07:01 PM
The Old English lettering sounds good, and I like the idea of keeping the torches, but with 2 of them, they are too small to distinguish from a distance. Why not try using 1 old torch. Like this maybe.

08-24-2008, 07:19 PM
old english is too hard to read,,,,,,and way overdone,,,,there are tons of cooler fonts out there,,,
i think there is a site called house industries that has TONS of cool retro style fonts,,,,

if you're keeping the torches,,maybe have a little blue flame coming out,,