View Full Version : Anyone else have pics of more cars with FENDERWELL HEADERS?
BLEEDS is the only one ive seen w/ fenderwell headers, ive seen some pics of the cars that bleeds dad had at his shop back in the day, anyone else have pics of em?
I dig the SHIT out of the sound... they're wierd, funky looking snarling tubes of chrome that POUND on the round like a base Drum...
I'm thinking of building a pair for the hemi...
just wondering if anyone else had pics?
Eyeball
10-13-2003, 04:48 PM
There was a black roadster at the pileup with some on it. I'll look for pics tonight.
34Fordtk
10-13-2003, 06:22 PM
Here is the set I built.
bluegrassboogie
10-13-2003, 06:34 PM
no but i know what the fender liners look like after they are gone!its easy to change sparkplugs with the tires off! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
eyeball this is the car your talkin about, one of the HILLBILLYS. I LOOKED at this car and Never noticed the headers. If I make em, there gonna be CHROME and there gonna be WILD.
Nick32vic
10-13-2003, 07:44 PM
Sounds cool. How do you make em?
Fenderwell headers yer ass! These are piss-off pipes, no better than dumb-ass turn-downs that blow all sorts of shit into the air. What are you thinking, or are you thinking at all?
Nick heres a good start...
my header flange... from here you bend the tubes on a pipe bender, either in a sections and welding them together or in single pieces
Nick32vic
10-13-2003, 08:19 PM
Thanks Tuck. Can you buy Header Flanges like that new?
Av8... I'm not building this car to please anyone else but me... and if i piss a few guys off in the process please dont think i didnt think about it before I did it... thats the whole point. Its 60's and fits with my build plan and I LOVE IT.
With all due respect.
Tuck
34Fordtk
10-13-2003, 08:24 PM
Speedway has a lot of them.
Rocky
10-13-2003, 08:26 PM
I don't think Mike likes 'em. I've heard Bleed's up close and personal. They are definetely "piss off pipes" to the extreme! Those are really LOUD!
bobbleed
10-13-2003, 08:33 PM
My roasdters headers are NOT fenderwell headers, they are custom made PISS OFF PIPES.
They were made for the car in the 60's to piss off AV8.
Seems like they work. HaHa
To be honest, when I rebuilt the car I had second thoughts on using them. I thought they were guady and I diddn't want the car to be pipe heavy.
Then after thinking about it I realised that I had some actual "ONE OFF" Hot Rod headers and I would be a fool not to use them. They do piss off a lot of street rodders, and some times they mess up my hair, but I like em anyway.
They do sound wicked though.
I can't help than I'm an asshole, it's the pipes fault.
you can make the flanges yourself, I have the file in ACAD if anyone wants it email me ill send it to ya. You can pick em up on egay too. You could trace out the exhaust gasket on a thick piece of metal and cut it out w/ a plasma also...
just buy them its easier.
BLEED the only time I could tell they were pissing anyone off was at FIFTYS, otherwise they rock.
The files I have are for a 331 HEMI
It's not about pleasing anyone other than you, Tuck, although that isn't a priority in your terms.
It comes down to a dumbshit configuration that most racing organizations and tech inspectors will send you home for having this scheme on your hot rod.
I hope this helps you understand; it's not about you, it about the rest of us.
bobhleed -- that's a puzzling statement. What is it that I've said that you disagree with? If you're going to take a shot at me, give me a fair chance to answer your criticism.
I didn't think they seemed that loud. Maybe if it was revved up in my driveway at 8am or something, but otherwise they didn't seem that bad to me.
Rocknrod
10-13-2003, 09:21 PM
Why would a tech inspector kick you out? Its about the same in my mind as having down turn tips! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
HOLD the TRAIN Av8...
that wasnt a shot at you, its bleeds sarcasim...
I think I understand what your saying Av8... But I wish you would just say it in plain english so I really knew what you were getting at. You think it would reflect badly to other hamb members? I feel like you speaking to me in some unknown hot rodders code.
Tballs ribbed me about copying bleed in building these headers... (I know it was a rib and hes just getting me to think etc http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif )
I asked if there were pics of more of them BECAUSE I like them, they rock, they sound tits and its not b/c bleed it running them.
I expected to hear some shit like that.
I could build zoomies...
yeah its been done right. IF I build zoomies the way I want I might get accused of copying the SHIFTERS... haha
Everyone takes cues from everyone else... when my car is done it wont look like freds car, or Mikes car or joe blows car... it'll be MY CAR.
I take influences from things I LIKE... I dont do them because everyone else thinks theyre cool... I DONT CARE. I've wanted a HOT ROD since I can remember...
60's Metalflake showcar with or without piss off headers wether you like it or not I know this car will RULE.
I can see it taking shape in my head and in the garage as the parts pile up and in my hands as i prep stuff for chrome, maybe its time to do a concept drawing...
I'm building this car MYSELF with the help of HAMBERS I dont expect you all to get it... this just makes me want it done that much more...
but I realize that without the HAMB this wouldnt be happening at this point in my life. I built my body shop with the help of friends, NO DAD there to help me along... I paid for it... same with my first car my shoebox at age 15 that im still fucking up.
So I thank you for all the input and help along the way... but I sit here staring at this post thinking wtf is the big deal?
Tuck
HotRod31
10-13-2003, 09:24 PM
Here's the ones on my A . I started with Speedway fenderwells, but cut the short colletors off & added some longer ones & a 45 deg. I put baffles in there also. It's not that loud.
http://photo.starblvd.net/~HotRod31/1-1-2.jpg Later, Mark
A lot of tech inspectors don't allow down turns to run silly... I know of one track that won't even let em in the pits.
All that said, I never really got what was the big deal with em... So what, they make a mess. I personally do not like the style at all with the only known exception being bleed's car.
That's just me though - I don't go for the 60's style on hot rods or kustoms really. I'm a late 40's/early 50's kind of guy... Subtle, clean, and good ole fashioned evil...
bobbleed
10-13-2003, 09:28 PM
AV8 the green roadster in the top picture is mine. I wasn't taking a shot at you, I was kidding around.
I felt as though your statements were taking a shot at ME.
I have a lot of respect for you and thought I should explain the pipes on that car.
You are right, they are piss off pipes.
I'm just a punk anyway so they proably suit me well.
I was trying to say that I like those pipes, cause they are part of the car. They have been on that car for 35 years!
They make absolutly no sense, and surve no purpose other than to look cool. BUT they are a work of art from a long time ago.
Some people love em others don't. That's fine with me.
some people like them, some people hate them
and for some reason... alot of people like them because alot of people hate them:)
sounded fckn awsome at BTT50s
metalshapes
10-13-2003, 10:16 PM
I DONT GET IT...
How can a Fenderwell Header be a Fenderwell header on a Fenderless car??
Tuck -- What is it that you can't picture or understand about down-turn exhaust outlets? I'm guessing you've not been a dragracer, otherwise you'd have understood my concerns right away.
Some of us old guys have been involved with and playing this game since we were in our teens. I don't think that's really relevant to your way of thinking, however, so I'm going to sign off at this point and let you have this thread and all your ideas about what's important to you.
maybe i should have asked how many people DONT GET IT instead of asking for pictures of FENDERWELL HEADERS.
AV8, ok... I will state that im wanting the headers for the aesthetics of them rather than the function that should clear up the confusion in this post. I should've said that in the begining.
Your advice is dually noted...
I was not trying to start a stink post on the hamb. I just wanted some pictures for inspiration.
Regards~
Serious race car guys hate turn-downs... always have. Mark Bishop up as a serious race car guy... A grumpy one at that!
metalshapes
10-13-2003, 11:19 PM
Uhh, Did I piss you off Tuck?
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif im so pissed off right now... haha NO im not.
really dude, i was just looking for some pics in this post. got any?
metalshapes
10-13-2003, 11:26 PM
Allright man, just checking.
I was thinking maybe i could bring the roadster over to your shop later and use your pipe bender?
metalshapes
10-13-2003, 11:31 PM
OK, I'll point 'em any way you want them, but it seems like a long drive for a set of headers.
well, maybe you could point me in the right direction as to what pipe bender to buy on the do it yourself home builder budget??? have you ever used any of those $99 benders?
brutus t maximus
10-13-2003, 11:56 PM
well i dont own a deuce or any of the old iron most of you guys work with and love....
but to me... on a 55 chevy,,, with a tilt front end ,,, there simply is nothing cooler than fenderwell headers...
i would agree they are knarly sounding when open.. and i would likely run turnouts if i was to do so...
but the again.... GERM says i am gay.... so who cares... i like em.... lol
bob
I take offense! Please Tuck, if you are going to use me as a reference call me Tman not Tballs. Tbag works..I like Iced Tea. Iced tea is good peace drink......ever see a headline about "Crazed Iced T junkie kills 27?"
Anyway.......Bleed likes to piss folks offf. Tuck wants to do the same. My toouring mught run the 348 out of 2" pipes sans mufflers.
Bottom line is we are punks and enjoy it. The difference between your experience(av8) is that you are thinking of the drags. The rest of us in Mn, Sodak or Wisconsin is that uncorked HARLEYS rattle the windows all the time..........what we are doing with these old cars is looked upon as cool by cops in my town, and I assume it is the same in other parts of the midwest.
metalshapes
10-14-2003, 12:05 AM
I like the mandrell bend U-bends better. It takes a pretty fancy bender to make those bends nice, and even then the diameter goes down a little. The last time I had a set of pipes bend ( on a big expensive machine ) I found out what its radius was first, found a V-belt pulley that matched that, and bend PVC pipe around that by heating it, had those copyed in steel, and used those to build my headers.
That was a lot of extra work, and there was still the problem of the pipes being pinched a little in the bends.
slazzen
10-14-2003, 12:08 AM
flesh gordon has some headers like that on his bantam
slazzen
10-14-2003, 12:13 AM
its actually Hell-n`s car gordon`s girl she is a radiator hoe http://www.radiatorhoescarclub.com/files/Bantam.jpg
god damn it i like calling you tballs, I call one of my best friends tijuana j JBALLS and so on... it means your on the in. I am a punk and a car builder and I like hot rods and women and calling you TBALLS http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
metalshapes i dont think theres anyway of getting away from the pinching/ bleeds headers show the marks etc and it looks fine in chrome, you dont even notice it! I want to make them myself, I think its gonna be fun... and then off to get CHROME.
thanks~
Thanks for the pic MAXimus
brutus t maximus
10-14-2003, 12:41 AM
Tuck:
as an option for really tight radius bends check into the schedule 40 black pipe mandrel weld fittings... they are just under 1/8 thick, very easy to work with and weld, and come in 90,45,30 and 15 degree bends... and as smooth as silk. They work well coming off the flanges to make those seemingly impossible turns,, possible.
and besides you will never burn them out... not in this lifetime anyway.
bob
Broman
10-14-2003, 12:56 AM
I worked for half of a decade as a tube bender in a local factory, then I was promoted to the tube mill - where we made the tubing from flat coils of steel. No kidding.
Anywho, I don't know about how a metal shop bends tubing to specific angles but ours was a computer controlled wonder. It used an XYZ axis and you could use a lazer to scan to vector (XYZ). Pretty rad stuff. My point is this. Making a template out of some other easier-to-manipulate matterial would be benefitial if you were going to mass produce these. But it seems to me that you would have to go through a ton of work just to build a template when you could have been working on the actual headers that you would be using and be done with it. I'd take out any extra steps if you ask me.
I have a stack of Street Rodder mags that tackled the coverage of the "Tubester". They bought a bunch of straights and a bunch of bends and just cut 'em up and tacked 'em together until the damn things looked like spaghetti:
.......connect a bend from here to abend from there going in the other direction (tack weld [pause] tack weld) add a small straight (tack), add another bend (tack).....
I tell ya it looked like he had steel doughnuts and he cut them all up like pie and tacked the whole mess together.
Does this help anyone?
I suppose not but at least I know what I mean, even if I don't know it...ya know?
I get grumpy and cranky only when folks close their minds and insist on sticking with their original path even when it's dead wrong.
bobbleed
10-14-2003, 01:36 AM
Tuck is an ARTIST. He asked for some pictures for inspiration, that's all.
I don't see where anyone is being closed minded at all.
I am going to try to get a hold of the guy who built my headers in the 60's and see if he can make a set for Tuck.
I think that would be neat.
hatch
10-14-2003, 01:39 AM
Throughout time quite a few people have been wrong....now they are rich.
lucky_1974
10-14-2003, 01:43 AM
Damn-- I was excited to see this post earlier, I am building a Model A truck and was going to do the same thing. I think it has to be a midwest thing to love the look, and the sound. I told a few people a couple of weeks ago and they said don't you'll hate it, people will be pissed at shows, blah, blah, blah. Most people don't come up chat with me anyway so it will be nice to have the socialization. I think I will call them "meetin' people pipes", I figure people will scream at me or say wow those are cool, love the sound, either way I'm meeting new people.
I'm glad some people posted some pics but keep them coming. I have some stuff sketched but would love more inspiration...
Knowing my luck Tuck will finish his roadster first and then I will get to hear everytime I go some where, nice pipes what are you trying to be a tuckaphile. I'll just correct them and say no a bleedsterite... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Sincerely yours, and part of the growing midwestern phenomenon known as "meetin people pipes" formerly "piss pipes" http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif.
I have a legitimate question for you Mike
If you were going to build a 60's Show Car what configuration would you run for headers?
Why are you so upset that I'm thinking about running this style of header on my car? If I were building a 50's style roadster I wouldn’t be doing this at all. Why keep posting on this thread?
I'm dead wrong and close-minded to who’s school?
Who’s rules am I breaking?
Why am I close-minded?
I'm not going to KISS anyone’s ass on this thread period.
-Jeff-
brutus t maximus
10-14-2003, 02:17 AM
i really dont understand what is wrong with fenderwell headers.... i guess i would like to be taught what is wrong, and not simply dismissed out of hand.
seems like we are right back to who the fuck wrote the rules??
AV8 i understand you have been building rods since the days of the square headed head bolt, and have written extensively, and in that reguard my hat is off to you and those of your ilk.
But for god sakes i am sick and tired of some folks just blowin off an idea or someones vision of what they want their car to look or sound like.
Your point is a good one in re: to tech inspectors at the drags,,, i guess those of us running fenderwells have to either deal with that or not race,,, i guess, at least that is what you are saying and i will take you on your word on that point.
do fenderwells kick up the dirt... yes...are they noisier than straight headers,, maybe, maybe not... but hell what kind of hotrodder really cares about a few decibels one way or another?
Come on AV8 enlighten me as well as others as to why you take such a dim view of this design, and please do so in more than a few short derogatory sentences.
i for one would really like to learn, if you have a valid point,, or is it really just a preference?
bob
Lionheart
10-14-2003, 02:19 AM
Hey Tuck, I don't mind when ya calls me LIONBALLS but i hates whens ya calles me LIONBAWLS.... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Zodoff
10-14-2003, 03:01 AM
On the seventh day,Tuck said:"Let there be NOIZE",
And the old gods of Hot Rodding stood there shocked,watching the story repeat itself,with all its lack of sence..
"Did the children of Hot Rodding not learn from our mistakes?"
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
hatch
10-14-2003, 08:04 AM
Uh..Oh...somebody breaking the rules!!!!
Glass body, coilovers, fenderwell headers.....too bad Dan used a 6/71 blown 392 instead of a smallblock...he would've set a new record for an "Improper" hotrod http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
hatch
10-14-2003, 09:00 AM
What's wrong with THIS guy????? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
tokyo
10-14-2003, 09:51 AM
[I'm not going to KISS anyone’s ass on this thread period.]
No..but i can still smell your's over here...ha...
seriously though...i think those pipes are sweet looking, not functional...well okay whatever...i won't care when i am there the first time the engine turns over, and the sound fills the shop. Right!...Right. build it dick..do it right. you know.. tok
k-member
10-14-2003, 12:52 PM
It looks to me that the only true "fender-well" headers are on the 55 chev and the two Willy's so far. Like someone else said don't you have to have fenders to have fender-well headers. Just my observation, not tring to stir the pot.
NealinCA
10-14-2003, 12:58 PM
[ QUOTE ]
It comes down to a dumbshit configuration that most racing organizations and tech inspectors will send you home for having this scheme on your hot rod.
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I am curious about this. Having been born in 1967, obviously I wasn't there, but I always thought fender exit headers where the norm on "gassers" and such? Kinda like this...
http://www.gassermadness.com/trifives/eg55-rp.jpg
Did the rules change to make them do something like this?
http://www.gassermadness.com/trifives/Whiteslightening.jpg
I am not trying to stir the pot, I am just trying to learn.
Neal...inCA
Anderson
10-14-2003, 01:02 PM
The REAL reason they were used...when you point the exhaust at the ground, the pressure of the exhaust pushes the front of the car upward. This moves more weight to the rear of the car giving it more traction, and also make the cars do really cool wheelies!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Also, sometimes they are angled more to the rear, which gives the car some extra velocity http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Ok, I'm done. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I didn't know you needed a pipe to "piss-off" people. I've been doing it manually all these years! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
brutus t maximus
10-14-2003, 04:48 PM
is it just me???
or is there anything more right than a 55 chevy with fenderwell headers?
ok AV8, i will cut you some slack,,, i will keep my fenderwell headers on my 55,,, and if i ever get to own an old roadster, coupe of rpu... i will stick with more traditional exhaust.... whatever that is??? at the time!!
bob
From what I understand I could always run turn outs If I were to run it on the track. (In case I have a shootout with rocky again)
Thanks for the pics, the Willys is too cool w/the tinted glass...
Mike Bishop, I feel like each post of yours is a hit and run...
If you’re just in a bad mood that’s fine but if there is some valid argument I wish you would clarify it so that I would understand. I'm willing to learn. Teach me.
I haven’t had the chance to read your book yet. My roommate bought it and I paged through it thinking its cool guys like this are on the hamb. You were willing to take the time to share your knowledge base with the layperson, Enthusiast or professional. It’s documented. We all benefit.
I'm the type of guy to go and buy the new Ed Roth book first... so if it gives you some insight into my interests you would understand where im coming from. I think this is crystal clear to you by now.
Guess I never realized I'd be butting heads with you over a pair of headers.
The funny thing is I asked bob about this almost a year ago, if the guy making the headers was still around... It would be cool. If it happens that way it'll RULE. I do think its a MIDWEST thing... I think its something unique to the builder... even if they do piss people off that guy is an artist.
I think Tman hit it on the head in that post...
I don’t want build a "tame" cookie cutter hot rod.
I see allot of cool roadsters, some of them look so uniform they should be in a calendar... I'm not building a fifties car because they are so restricted they remind me of my grandma's afghan blankets... might give you warm fuzzy's but Its just not ME.
Fender well headers scream ENERGY, they snarl at you even w/ the car not running. The sound is different. It resonates off the ground.
Metal flake and cheater slicks, MAGS and imagination... there’s less restriction and more options. For the love of chrome...
It has nothing to do with scenes or function; it has everything to do with ART.
I shouldn’t have to explain myself anymore... the mere fact that im looked down upon by one of our elders had me thinking all day today... not about hot rods and fenderwell headers but the [RULES].
Ed Roth broke allot of RULES, he’s someone I look up to as a artist and car builder... I think I relate to him more because im driven by similar passion. Creation without rules. The urge to have fun and use your imagination.
Its like you’re telling me to draw inside the lines...
Because that’s what you’re supposed to do.
If that’s what im supposed to do to get a blue ribbon at the county fair I would do it, but if its just for me,
It’s in my blood to scribble...
Im done with posting replies to this... if anyone wants to add pics that’s cool THANK YOU I appreciate it.... if you want to voice criticism go for it. I'm all ears.
Bottom line is I don’t mind if you think the idea is wrong, but don’t insinuate that im lacking intellect for something that interests me, or that I may be making the rest of you look bad by my being a member of the hamb...
I stand firm in my convictions, but open minded to ideas...
-jeff-
hatch
10-14-2003, 06:10 PM
Fuck the rules and fuck the people who wanna jam em down our throats..creativity is where its at.
flamedabone
10-14-2003, 08:32 PM
My only tip on headers is to buy a box of misc bends from Speedway or Jegs. WAAAAY easier than trying to use a tubing bender. A Speedway box of bends goes for about 100 bucks and are some damn nice mandrel bends. Usually plenty in a box to make whatever kind of header you want.
Cut and weld the bends into whatever you think is cool. The best way to cut em is a verticle band saw. A cut off wheel is a little hard to make the cuts 100% square.
Here is a shot of mine about 90% done. Yea, there not fenderwells, but it's better than nothing...-Aballs.
flamedabone
10-14-2003, 08:35 PM
Oops..forgot the pic...
jesus bet he'd flip over that 5 inch stack off a semi i just welded to my shoebox ah ha ha hah ha
:>
tim
and yes i did
Eyeball
10-14-2003, 10:40 PM
YO TUCK! Here is the car I was talkn' about.
Tuck -- Saying that each of my posts is a 'hit and run' is a very strong indictment. Don't waste your dollars on the book, because it's full of opinion and attitude -- lots of 'hit' but no 'run.' Still, major attitude about building an early car.
My feelings and statments about down-turn headers have nothing to do with me being in a bad mood. They have everything to do with how annoying and messy those headers are. I assumed -- wrongly -- that others would understand how down-turned collectors can screw up a starting area with bits of pavement crumbs and tire curds blown all about.
But that was from a racer's perspective and not something important to you or most of the folks involved in this thread. I'm going to stay with my reliable drag-racer's perspective, and hope you rat-rodders can work out something that's as equally comfortable.
Just an old greybeard . . .
Pardon me for explaining my position, Ryan.
You are pardoned. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
bobbleed
10-15-2003, 02:26 AM
Tuck, I think you should make Zoomies out of 36 Ford Torque Tubes.
8 Cones. HaHaHa
autocol
10-15-2003, 05:03 AM
hey tuck, i can see where ya coming from with the 'art' of these headers, i've always thought that bleeds car looked way cool.
however, upon looking at all the other cars in this thread, i'd be tempted to suggest that damn near every one of them looks stupid, to my eyes.
looking back at bob's car, i'd describe his headers as having more in common with the tubester (not to everyone's taste but ART in a hotrod if ever there was) than the 'true' fenderwell headers in the willys and chevs.
put the fenders back on bob's A and there's not a fucking hope in hell those headers would fit underneath 'em! they're more like "cowl-huggers" or something.
in any event, i've seen some of your art, and i know it's fucking good, so come on sketch some up and let's all shoot you down! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
autoballs.
Smokin Joe
10-15-2003, 06:28 AM
In the beginning everyone pointed their pipes at the ground. Weedburners ruled! BUT...
This blew up dirt and oil and shit all over anyone near the car, and scratched up cars next to you from flying gravel.
Also started fires in the grass of the pits.
Then they went to zoomies and they just blow your hat off and give you a face full of hot gasses and unburned NITRO but don't melt the starting line or leave lines of oil on the track in front of the tires when the rings let go. The starter can wear a normal shirt and doesn't need safety goggles to keep the 100mph flying burned asphault, rocks and rubber grit out of his eyes. Fewer cars oil up the tires and smack the wall.
Even most of the gassers eventually stopped dumping the headers on the ground. Racers learned hitting the wall from oiled down tires just wasn't cool and moved on.
If you build "Piss off pipes" do me a favor.
Don't key my paintjob like a friggin candy assed punk, Don't throw your empties in my ride and don't fire up your gravel & dirt thrower next to my car. Messing up other peoples shit for a laugh is NOT cool, and it isn't art. If it's art, then leave out the pistons when you build the engine. And trailer it to the gallery. Don't go rapping your pipes thru the grounds throwing shit at everybody elses cars and kids. I'm with Mike on this one. I like that little green roadster, but it needs turnouts that don't point at the ground. And loud just to be a prick isn't cool.
It's just being a prick...
manyolcars
10-15-2003, 07:47 AM
True fenderwell headers--you know-to be a fenderwell header, you gotta have a fenderwell. this is a 1950 Ford with 460 seen at Rosanky
RocketDaemon
10-15-2003, 08:08 AM
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I don't go for the 60's style on hot rods or kustoms really. I'm a late 40's/early 50's kind of guy... Subtle, clean, and good ole fashioned evil...
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heck that is just my opinion aswell regarding my preferd style on hotrods and customs
Zodoff
10-15-2003, 08:13 AM
Oh,my....
brutus t maximus
10-15-2003, 01:40 PM
ok all you fenderwell header haters, how about this?
if and when i ever go to the track and uncork my headers, i will be sure and bring a set of turnouts.
Would that be acceptable?
AV8 your points as well as those of others are duely noted, i also would like to say i would never think of running my 55 with open headers in the grass, dirt, gravel or near anyone elses ride... that would just be chicken shit.. so i understand your adversion to them if this is what you have experienced with other guys using them.
thanks to all for taking the time to elaborate.
i guess it comes down to personal taste and above all personal responciblity.
many years ago i had a 64 chev i roadraced, it had side exiting fenderwell headers (directed strait out behing the front tires)
one day while makeing a 30 mile run i lost a hose, and overheated,, pulled over to let it cool and add water. meanwhile the carb was boiling fuel over into the intake and did a good job of pouring raw gas down the engine.
well i had several friends stop to help,, and one dude that i didnt know in his bermuda shorts,, he was raising hell with me that the car had to be removed from the highway,, and NOW!
i really couldnt have been concerned with him... he was standing beside the drivers window reading me the riot act... i lit the chevy,, and an enormous blast of fire shot out from each side of the car and i took off, in a cloud of dust.
i found out later back in town that the dude as a vacationing highway patrolman,, and that my flame job had burned all the hair off his legs... ouch!!!
so i guess your point are well taken... that certainly wasnt very responcible of me,,, but damn it sure was funny
bob
max wedge
10-15-2003, 02:56 PM
I've got a bag of flour and a leaf blower in the H-bomb so I don't need turn-downs!!! I also have a pump that sprays brake fluid everywhere.
max wedge
10-15-2003, 02:58 PM
Oh I forgot I'm also hooking up Gaydar to the H-bomb so I can tell who gets pissed off easily, then I can drive around those people.
beatnik
10-15-2003, 05:23 PM
Hi Tuck, Don't know what these started as or where I got this pic, but they are sick enough for me to appreciate.
looks like fenderwells on opposite sides or the like
beatnik
10-15-2003, 05:34 PM
This is another set I like, Just lakestyle/limefire headers but extended. Doors don't open but as low as it is who needs doors.
Hellfish
10-15-2003, 06:21 PM
I think it's funny that I had to read through 5 fucking pages of this post to find out why these pipes are so evil. They kick up dirt and they're loud. boo hoo. I'm really beginning to think Californians are big sissies.
anyway, that roadster at the Pileup belongs to a guy named Tommy from Romeoville, IL. He builds really nice motorcycles for a living and he bent all those pipes himself.
Heres another positive attribute of these headers: gold chainers wont park near you!!!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
AHotRod
10-15-2003, 09:35 PM
Man, I thought I was going to see 46 pictures of rides with Fenderwell headers...not a debate! Personally I like fenderwell "Style" headers, and YES I built a set for my old Willys.
Is'nt Hot Rodding about creativity, personality, expression, and a BIG GRIN ?!
I look at it this way, if it makes me GRIN, then I do it.
daddylama
10-16-2003, 01:54 AM
any other pics of the blue roadster that beatnik posted??? that thing is ti**s...
k-member
10-16-2003, 04:53 AM
Beatnick, I saw that black Plymouth coupe in Puyalup popping corn out of those pipes.
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