Yet another one ..........

[Old6rodder]

Here're a couple pictures of ThingyM's ongoing build.
Just to whet your appetites 'til he starts his build thread. :D

[64 DODGE 440]

That shop is far too big and far too clean. He will never amount to anything.:D

Damn.......I would love to have a place like that to build in.

The boy don't look to far from rolling that baby out and making a pass.

[Toymaker]

Thingy' Got a deadline , how 'bout the Hot Rod Reunion?

[ThingyM]

Yep.. But I got to rebuild the motor.. Found some things that need to be fixed.ETC..Will definately try for the Reunion..Also need some parts.Bellhousing,Trans,flywheel, Making most of the stuff by hand by myself takes time.. Gonna change the roll bar to a 6 point cage.For are ol' buddies at NHRA. Plus I gotta get my Altered ready too.. Hope, I Hope, Dick...

[Rand Man]

Keep up the good work. You could stick that Fiat body on your rail and take a photo, just for fun.

[Toymaker]

Yep.. But I got to rebuild the motor.. Found some things that need to be fixed.ETC..Will definately try for the Reunion..Also need some parts.Bellhousing,Trans,flywheel, Making most of the stuff by hand by myself takes time.. Gonna change the roll bar to a 6 point cage.For are ol' buddies at NHRA. Plus I gotta get my Altered ready too.. Hope, I Hope, Dick...

Dick, I'll check I may have a 3 spd tranny. The bellhousing and flywheel I may have also but they're stock.

[ThingyM]

Rocky,, I got a fully syncro 3sp. coming from a friend of mine in Kansas..What I really need is to find a suitable flywheel..I will chuck it up on the lathe and cut it down. Then have it surface ground anyway, So it doesn't need to be perfect..As far as the Bellhousing.. That would be cool...BTW. Are dual disc clutches legal.???

[mudflap261]

the rules do not address that . but iam sure the bug did not have one my personal opinion is it should be single disc lock up clucth ,of high quality.or soon some will want to usea slider am I wrong

[348chevy]

Well I had a slider and didn't want one. It certainly was not an advantage. I think a normal clutch should be standard. Because the friction surface is above the rest of my flywheel I thought I needed to shim the clutch up to that level. Not so it slipped badly. Maybe with some exotic surface it might have been alright but with an organic surface it just smoked. I think we can over engineer these things. The Bug was probably a 3/8 by 3/8 flathead [296cu.in.] and probably running on 25% nitro and 75% Menthol. Most everyone in the early days of racing ran some type of fuel. It's just like today everyone runs nitros oxide, easy way to get extra horsepower. Back to the clutch, would going to a slipper clutch really help with these cars? I doubt that it would be any advantage because we just don't have enough horsepower. I think slippers are only an advantage when you are looking for traction and high gear only. If you are shifting gears it doesn't look to me that would help. It is just my opinion and everyone has one.:confused:Roy

[Toymaker]

I think Dick is pulling our chain:D, but I do agree with 348'. I'll check on the flywheel and bellhousing and let you know Dick.

[ThingyM]

Naaaaa, I'm not pulling your chain...A friend of mine who builds T/F clutches, Has one lying around and wanted to know if I could use it. Thats All.. I told him "I doubt it"... Thats why I asked..And it's free...

[Ron Golden]

Roy,

How did you do in Tulsa? Did the clutch work OK?

Ron

[348chevy]

The race isn't until the 30th which is next friday. The clutch releases now but I don't know if it will slip. My problem is I don't have a testing area around the house. I would have to load it on the trailer and haul it to a lonely road somewhere and unload it to test it. The clutch is a 10 1/2 in. diaphram with an organic disk nothing complicated about it. I have plenty of room with the linkage, I just don't know what the problem can be. Maybe it is solved now, won't know until friday. The problem is with the formed bellhousing there is no getting into the clutch without taking the transmission out and bellhousing off. :(Roy

[ThingyM]

348,, Cant you cut a rectangular inspection hole in the can,?? Then make a cover for it.. Like we have in the Ti Cans. Then Hold the cover down with 6 bolts..Or is it a standard style bell housing..???

[Old6rodder]

My thought as well.
Most "formed" bells are full circle, are they not?
Perhaps an access on the bottom (rather like a stock bell) so it couldn't compromise the scatter pattern except toward the asphalt even if the cover did let go?

[348chevy]

The Bellhousing is 360 degrees with the only hole being where the clutch actuating arm goes in to push the throwout bearing. I have tried to look through that but it doesn't give me enough room to slip a feeler gauge in so I can see how much it is releasing. I suppose that I could cut a hole in the bottom but I want to think long and hard on that one. It might ruin the integrity of the bellhousing. Anyway, we'll find out Friday night if I can spin a tire instead of having smoke come out of the clutch housing. There should be a way of setting up a clutch so you would know it was right. Like when you tighten down the cover what height should the fingers be from the surface of the disk? I know there is an answer just need someone who knows clutches to chime in here.:(Roy

[mudflap261]

roy do you have clucth rebuilder in your area if so they can check the release hight for you in abuout 5 minutes

[ThingyM]

Well,, I got my body material today. .040--3003 Aluminum..And made a Dzus fastner dimpler, for the skin.. Tranny is on its way here from Kansas. Its a Muncey close ratio 4 speed.. Thought I would use that since my little Chev. 6 would be down on power..Got an Alum. bell housing also..Still trying to figure what wheels to run on the back. Got to plumb the back brakes next, Gonna use a 10 lb residule valve.. Got the 18" spokes mounted on the front now also.. Slowly but surely its coming along..

[Toymaker]

Any progress Dick? I bet the 18" wheels look sweet!

[ThingyM]

Got to go up to Washington this weekend. "G"Daughter Graduation from High School.. So no work this weekend.. I'll take a picture or two on Monday..Also got a new seat (Better) Yea, I like the spoke wheels too. They came off the Fiat when I put the 5 spoke mags on the front..

[ThingyM]

Quick Question:: Do most of you run spools or open rearends, or mini spool...I have mine gutted, And was thinking what to do for it.....

[Joe Hamby]

I run a ratchet type of posi, because if I get sidewise I have a better chance of coming out of it safely. With a spool you could be in deep trouble. Joe

[REJ]

I run a poor mans posi.
Four pounds less air in the right tire and a ridgid mounted rear, if it spins, it spins both tires through first and second.
Robert

[ThingyM]

Spent most of the day working on the HA/GR..Radiator is mounted. Puke tank hooked up(Polished Fire extinguisher) Electric fuel pump mounted,Made front motor mounts. Going to take the head over to the rebuilder, Some seats and valves. And 7/16" rocker studs...Going to do more tomarrow..I'm tired.. I'm going to bed..

[Toymaker]

WOO-HOO! Did ya get your residual psi valve? See ya this weekend..............Rocky

[ThingyM]

No Rocky, I sure didn't..But I did get the rearend all back together with new brakes etc. It seems like for some reason that I keep starting to work from the front to the back..

[ThingyM]

Rocky.. I won't be able to be there this weekend.. We had a family member pass away. And the service is Friday in Clearlake..

[ThingyM]

You know, I really want to be at the ANRA race this weekend at the Patch.I want to see you and Dick going down the track again.. Butch just told me about another fella intrested in the HAMB cars..You know, the more the merrier..He wants to see a HA/GR class of its own. Have fun,,I also understand that there is a pot luck after the races.....WaaaHoooo...

[Toymaker]

Sorry for your loss and we will look for ya in August.

[ThingyM]

Well Boys and Girls..Chassis is just about completed.. Waiting for the new front hoop to finish the cage..Now it's time to start on the motor. Crank is in good shape. So just a micro polish and balance..New Steve Long cam and solid lifters.. Rods will be ground smooth Shot Peened and polished. Using some new Egge Machine pistons..New steel flywheel and Clutch plus a Muncey close ratio 4 speed..Head will have new valves, Match ported. With new springs(heaver) 7/16" rocker studs. Crane roller rockers with buttons. And I'm going to attempt to make my own stud girdle.(This aught to be fun)..Getting closer to making my first pass in quite a while..Last one was in Yr. 2000 ..Just got to old to handle the fast stuff (73) so this should be a real kick in the butt...Dick..

[Toymaker]

Glad to see ya makin progress Thingy', it's gonna be nothin but good times soon!

[ThingyM]

Thanks Rocky... Im'ma tryin to hurry.. But the hurry'r I go. The behinder I get.. I think thats the way it goes........Dick

[nexxussian]

Thanks Rocky... Im'ma tryin to hurry.. But the hurry'r I go. The behinder I get.. I think thats the way it goes........Dick


Amen to that.

[ThingyM]

Well, As of today,,Mike Kirby is going to come aboard and help me with my little 6 banger..Yipeeeeee

[Toymaker]

You better be careful...............you may build your way out of a driving job making that HA/GR too quick:D

[Ron Golden]

Thingy,

Don't you feel even a little bad pulling out the big guns on us poor devils. For those out there that don't know who Mike Kirby is....he's the god of inline 6's. I've talked to him a few times and the man KNOWS. He runs a twin engine (6cyl chevy) dragster that runs in the 7's.

Ron

[ThingyM]

Oh !!! He is just going to show me what to do to make the little motor live.. I'm not going to go all out on it..But you got to admit,Some of the motors here are pretty exotic...

[Ron Golden]

As we all know wishful thinking sometimes turns into reality and we get what we wish for. That's what happened to my GMC. The better part of common sense went out the door and a GMC Frankenstein (sp) was created. Once committed there is no turning back. If (?????) the damn thing holds together it should be a pretty serious piece, and my partners and I will be able to make a decent showing at the strip. It's almost a clone to the engine Mike Kirby was running in his altered roadster. If it makes 75 percent of the power he was making I'll be tickled pink.

Without a doubt having him as a consultant will reap rewards.

Ron

[breeder]

the hurry'r I go. The behinder I get

thats the most true statemant ever utter'd on the HAMB i think!!! :)
best of luck with the finish! im hopin to get one built over the winter....

[ThingyM]

I have more photos of the almost completed chassis.. It is a roller....Just gotta find our if Old 6 will put them up for me...

[Old6rodder]

No sweat Dick, send'em over.

You going to have your HAMBster along for the 23rd? Sure would like to see it there, even unfinished. Would it fit in the box if you propped the front wheels up over the other car's front wheels?

Hey, I'm trying here .............. :D

[Toymaker]

Ya Ya Ya Ya more PHOTO's:D

[Old6rodder]

Personally I think yer 'chute may prove to be just a tad undersize but all the same, here 'tis ..........


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1139091/Bb.jpg


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1139091/Dd.jpg


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1139091/Ee.jpg

:D


Lookin' good, Dick.

[Toymaker]

Me likes, I need to get off my DUFF and get my wire wheels on the front.

[ThingyM]

Thanks Guys.. Last night My friend made the pattern for the cowl. While I put in the rear helmet bars. Monday I hope to weld in the front hoop of the cage and the side helmet bars. Just keep pluggin away.. Thanks Dick for putting these pics up for me (Me is computer illiterate) Off to the Bixby Knolls Car show and Cacklefest...

[17dracing]

Looks great ! What cam are you going to be running in that beast ? Keep up the good work !

[ThingyM]

Im going to use a Steve Long racing cam.. He grinds all my racing cam stuff. He is in Corona Ca.

[17dracing]

Thats what I was wondering ! We had him do our cam for the land speed car , 302 GMC motor ,and the one in our HA/GR car .Steve is a great guy to deal with ! Well keep on keep'en on !!!

[ThingyM]

Well as of tonight, Roll cage finished. Now I got to get the engine back from Mike. Hook up the trans. and drop it in..Then all the little shit has to be done.. Race cars are fun,Race cars are fun, Race cars are, I have to keep telling myself that...

[Toymaker]

Well I finally got the "Covert" pictures from my Lapel Cam developed, and here is the spy photo's of Thingy's progress:D
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/Toymaker1/thingym004.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/Toymaker1/thingym003.jpg

[ThingyM]

After taking my head over heals fall last month. I've had a hard time getting anything done. But as the healing process continues I've been able to start working on the THING again.. I now have the May deadline to meet. So I got to force myself to get on the stick and finish it,, Guys my age (73) can't hit the concrete and bounce back like I use to..I'll be busy on it tomarrow..Dick..

[64 DODGE 440]

After taking my head over heals fall last month. I've had a hard time getting anything done. But as the healing process continues I've been able to start working on the THING again.. I now have the May deadline to meet. So I got to force myself to get on the stick and finish it,, Guys my age (73) can't hit the concrete and bounce back like I use to..I'll be busy on it tomarrow..Dick..

If you "old guys" would stop trippin' over your "purse dogs" ya could probably get more work done. :p

[ThingyM]

Well Tom my friend,, You had better step on it. Cause I'm working on getting the Motor/Trans hooked together and droping it in for a trial fit.. Plus my friend Larry is getting things together for his new car...Will also be Chev.6 powered..And is trying for the May race also..

[64 DODGE 440]

Well Tom my friend,, You had better step on it. Cause I'm working on getting the Motor/Trans hooked together and droping it in for a trial fit.. Plus my friend Larry is getting things together for his new car...Will also be Chev.6 powered..And is trying for the May race also..

I'm on it Dick. Hope to be there in May too, just have to see how fast I can get this thing together.:p

Lookin' forward to staging with ya.:cool:

[Old6rodder]

Here're a couple more, of his intake.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1139091/a.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1139091/b.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1139091/c.jpg

[ThingyM]

Hell...I don't even know if it will work or not. But as they use to do 60 yrs ago, Try something.. This is basically a stock 194 intake manifold.. That I cleaned up a bit with a sanding disc and bored out the single one barrel plentum, Put a radius on the edges, Built the top piece out of a piece of 2" by 4" rectangular aluminum tubing. Tapered both ends down and welded in pieces.. You notice it still uses the original 2 bolt holes off the manifold to hold the top piece on..Gonna use 2 Stromberg 97s..It might not work, But the stock one did.. Just addea a couple of carbs....Thanks Dick for posting these for me..Still haven't figured out this computer yet....Dick...

[Toymaker]

Me likes :D

[Old6rodder]

We'll see if we still like it after he has us for a snack ........ :D

[ThingyM]

Awwwwwwwww.. Got my rear cross member made. And the trans setting in there.. Now it's linkage time.. For the shifter (Old Hurst) and the clutch linkage..Time marches on..YIPeeeeeeee

[Toymaker]

Dang it Thingy we are going to have to get you a camera!

[64 DODGE 440]

He needs instruction in how to post pictures for that to do any good.:D

[ThingyM]

I went out and bought one of those fancy Canon 8megpxl do dads and haven't quite yet figured how to get the pictures out and into the computer.. I hold the photos up real close to the screen.. Can't ya see them?????

[64 DODGE 440]

I went out and bought one of those fancy Canon 8megpxl do dads and haven't quite yet figured how to get the pictures out and into the computer.. I hold the photos up real close to the screen.. Can't ya see them?????

Yes, but they are out of focus.:D

[Old6rodder]

Yeah, even with my "readers".

[nexxussian]

But if you kinda squint reel hard like.:D

I've got a Cannon 8 MP camera, if you don't have a slot for the memory card in your computer you should be able to hook the camera to your computer with the patch cable (should have come with it).

I usually use the 'camera and scanner wizzard' that comes with windows, if you have a Mac, you're on your own.

To get the camera to give up it's pics start with it turned off and your computer up & running. Plug the patch cable in (that goofy mini USB @ the camera, under the cover on the kung fu grip end of the camera IIRC, it's labled, the other to any USB port on your computer) then turn your camera on. It should auto detect (in Windows).

Step through the wizzard, save it with a name you can remember (I put mine in the 'my pictures' folder, orriginal I know, but I kept forgeting where I put them when I put them elsewhwere :o).

[ThingyM]

You know Eric, I can can whip out almost any part I need for my race cars; But you stick this electronic monster in front of me and my brain goes BLAM!!!..WTF does all these little signs and letters mean. USB ALT USC.UCLA..and all the others...I've been told, Don't push the wrong key or you'll mess something up.. Hell, I'm still looking for the "Any key"..I'll have to get my 11yr old "G"son over here and show "G"paw how to do this picture thing...
All kidding aside,, Thanks for the info Eric...ME' Dumb shit,,, You' Smart guy,,, hehehehe Thanks...Dick..

[64 DODGE 440]

You know Eric, I can can whip out almost any part I need for my race cars; But you stick this electronic monster in front of me and my brain goes BLAM!!!..WTF does all these little signs and letters mean. USB ALT USC.UCLA..and all the others...I've been told, Don't push the wrong key or you'll mess something up.. Hell, I'm still looking for the "Any key"..I'll have to get my 11yr old "G"son over here and show "G"paw how to do this picture thing...
All kidding aside,, Thanks for the info Eric...ME' Dumb shit,,, You' Smart guy,,, hehehehe Thanks...Dick..

Here you go Dick, just get one of these.......the "any key" is located just to the left of the number 1 key, top left area of the keyboard.:D

https://www.keyboardforblondes.com/index.cfm

[ThingyM]

Thanks Tom... But my hair is WHITE from age.....NOT Blonde.....

BTW..Where is the "New key" I was told I needed a newkey....

[64 DODGE 440]

Thanks Tom... But my hair is WHITE from age.....NOT Blonde.....

BTW..Where is the "New key" I was told I needed a newkey....

Don't see a "newkey", but there is a "No" key.:D

At your age you probably should hire a hunting guide to help you find the "newkey".:p

[nexxussian]

I'm not that smart, just been around it a while.

For What it's Worth, USB='Universal Serial Bus' it was supposed to be a plan to have a single kind of plug to be able to hook anything extra or portable up to any computer, because it would be the same, same size, same shape, the software would all speak the same language. Ahh utopia.

Well as you can guess that didn't work for crap.

Getting harware designers to all go one direction is about the same as racers, ie herding cats.

I've got a 'USB adapter cable' it has 7 completly different pugs on it so you can hook it to the most common ones (where's the smack my forehead and sigh smiley??).

The biggest benefit I have on any of that is, it's mostly automatic. 90%+ of the time if you hook it up as I described it will find itself and run where you need it to.

It has the 'wizzard' to prompt you where to go and what to do. If it asks you 'ARE YOU SURE?' the answer is 'NO'. Other than that I have never had a problem with it.

Oh, if it asks you if you want to 'FORMAT' any thing, 'HELL NO'! (where's the link to the redneck keyboard with that key?)

[Old6rodder]

"Herding cats." Now THAT one I like. :D

[ThingyM]

Well guys,, A major design flaw in the chassis building has brought my build to a grinding hault.. Seems that the shifter for the 4 speed is under the front part of my seat. There is NO handle made or one I've made will shift the tranny correctly..So something has to be changed. And I'm just not up to that at this time..I'm the one who screwed up, So I'm the one who has to fix it. But I've just about have burned my brain up trying to come up with a solution. So i'm going to sit back and rethink this out and try to come up with some sort of fix. I'm beginning to think, I'm just to old for this s---........Dick M

[64 DODGE 440]

Well guys,, A major design flaw in the chassis building has brought my build to a grinding hault.. Seems that the shifter for the 4 speed is under the front part of my seat. There is NO handle made or one I've made will shift the tranny correctly..So something has to be changed. And I'm just not up to that at this time..I'm the one who screwed up, So I'm the one who has to fix it. But I've just about have burned my brain up trying to come up with a solution. So i'm going to sit back and rethink this out and try to come up with some sort of fix. I'm beginning to think, I'm just to old for this s---........Dick M

Hang in there Dick.......we all have these problems, my first install of the engine and trans gave me a 14" driveshaft at about a 45 degree angle. There is a way, you just need to back away for a calming period and it will solve itself. It may be frustrating, but if it was easy.......

Remember.......we are doing this because it's fun.:p

[Racer Ralph]

Well guys,, A major design flaw in the chassis building has brought my build to a grinding hault.. Seems that the shifter for the 4 speed is under the front part of my seat. There is NO handle made or one I've made will shift the tranny correctly..So something has to be changed. And I'm just not up to that at this time..I'm the one who screwed up, So I'm the one who has to fix it. But I've just about have burned my brain up trying to come up with a solution. So i'm going to sit back and rethink this out and try to come up with some sort of fix. I'm beginning to think, I'm just to old for this s---........Dick M


Put the DAMN seat behimd the rear end where it belongs. :D:D:D

[ThingyM]

OK Ralph.. Get in your damn truck and get down here and show me the fix..Smartelic... :D:D:p

[348chevy]

Hey Thingy, how many gears do you plan to use? If it is only a couple of gears then just put yourself a couple of pull levers and attach them to the floorboards instead of the tailshaft. That is how I did my shifter and it worked great. I used the same setup on my old chevy powered slingshot. :) Roy

[Rand Man]

I've got a Hurst Cometition Plus with a '57 Chevy bench seat handle I could part-with. It's kind of "U" shaped.

[Joe Hamby]

Hi Thingy. I had the very same thing a couple of years ago. I simply built a box type of thing out to the left side, I lined up the shifter so that it was straight in line with the shift arms on the tranny, I made shift linkage arms that are straight and a lot shorter, then built my own shift handle. It is an old hurst shifter on a four speed, I shift it left handed, that way my left shoulder is lined up fairly straight, ergonomicly correct, even if the spelling is not. Joe

[ThingyM]

I know you guys aren't going to believe this. But I was looking at doing exactly what Hamby said he did. I took some dimensions and scribbled them out on a sheet of paper. Looks like it will work.. I have a Hurst shifter also.. Thanks for all the offers and help.. Very much appreciated..Some times frustration takes over, and the thinking side of your brain takes a nap...Dick M

[64 DODGE 440]

I know you guys aren't going to believe this. But I was looking at doing exactly what Hamby said he did. I took some dimensions and scribbled them out on a sheet of paper. Looks like it will work.. I have a Hurst shifter also.. Thanks for all the offers and help.. Very much appreciated..Some times frustration takes over, and the thinking side of your brain takes a nap...Dick M

Been there.......done that.:D

That's the advantage we have here, a great support staff of other builders who have had similar problems to help us get our brains re-booted when we go into an engineering crash.:p

Sometimes the solution is right there, we just need to have it illuminated.

[ThingyM]

Well today I got the mount made for my shifter.(Thanks to Joe Hamby for the suggestion) Looks like its gonna work OK.. Next is to bend up some linkage. Going to do that tomarrow.. No I don't have pictures..Don't know how to put them up here even if I did...Yes I'm an Idiot.......

[64 DODGE 440]

Well today I got the mount made for my shifter.(Thanks to Joe Hamby for the suggestion) Looks like its gonna work OK.. Next is to bend up some linkage. Going to do that tomarrow.. No I don't have pictures..Don't know how to put them up here even if I did...Yes I'm an Idiot.......

Nah.......you're just technologically challenged.:D

keep up the good work!! "Old Guys Rule".

[ThingyM]

Tom.. This little TV with a weird typewriter in front of it just smokes my butt. I'm afraid if I do something stupid on it. It will self destruct in 30 seconds..Just like when I was going for my HAM ticket.This electronic stuff is just beyond my imagination..Im still looking for the "Any key"...Maybe one of these days I'll get my computer "Geek" over here and show me how to do it. Thats my "G"Daughters husband..Untill that time, I'll just have to send them to someone and have them post them for me..Dick M..

[ThingyM]

Well the shifter is mounted and everything clears good ,,,, Except the reverse arm. But just a slight mod to the rear cross member and it's a go..Now I can start hauling butt.. Yipeeeeee....Oh! And going to the hydrolic clutch now too......

[ThingyM]

Well I cut the krinkled up section of the pan out. Where all the bumps and bruises to clear the stock crossmember are, And formed up a new section, And started to weld it in. Will finish it today. It looks like it will add at least a couple of Quarts to the pan volume, And look much cleaner..Things are starting to happen now..Like Rocky says.. Now I got a deadline to meet..Yes I got pictures. You know the rest of the story...Dick M..

[alteredpilot]

Pictures!!@
we need pictures!!!

[ThingyM]

Mitch.. Just drop by sometime..Ypu know where it is,,,

[alteredpilot]

you don't want me dropping by...
i might bring work with me.

i do need to bend your ear some. i'll get with you one of these saturdays after the march meet.

[ThingyM]

I sent Ol'6 some more snap shots. Not very interesting, But I took some.. Hope he will post them...

[64 DODGE 440]

I sent Ol'6 some more snap shots. Not very interesting, But I took some.. Hope he will post them...

Don't you have some grand kids to show you how??

[Old6rodder]

gdmfsob .... :mad:

OK Dick, I finally figured out some of the changes they just hit me with on Village Photo today.
These should be clickable thumbs that go to your photos (that I downsized to less than billboard size).

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1139091/tn_1583443-Dicks%20Race%20Car%202-23-09%20008.jpg (http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1139091/1583443-Dicks%20Race%20Car%202-23-09%20008.jpg)

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1139091/tn_1583443-Dicks%20Race%20Car%202-23-09%20009.jpg (http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1139091/1583443-Dicks%20Race%20Car%202-23-09%20009.jpg)

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1139091/tn_1583443-Dicks%20Race%20Car%202-23-09%20010.jpg (http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1139091/1583443-Dicks%20Race%20Car%202-23-09%20010.jpg)

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1139091/tn_1583443-Dicks%20Race%20Car%202-23-09%20011.jpg (http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1139091/1583443-Dicks%20Race%20Car%202-23-09%20011.jpg)

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1139091/tn_1583443-Dicks%20Race%20Car%202-23-09%20012.jpg (http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1139091/1583443-Dicks%20Race%20Car%202-23-09%20012.jpg)

[64 DODGE 440]

gdmfsob ....

Don't hold back,tell us how you really feel.:D

[Old6rodder]

Figures the SOBs'd make their changes right in the middle of my trying to sort out these verdamt new changes of my own. :rolleyes:

[64 DODGE 440]

Is that one of those Munchy, Nut Crusher Four-Speeds?

Feed the Squirrels, tuppence a bag.

Actually I think the shifter will work better with some rods to the transmission arms.:D

[bobw]

I thought "air shifters" were the hot ticket.
Looks like everything is coming along nicely. Gonna be a great HAMBster.

[Toymaker]

Alright, now were gettin" somwhere! Keep after it Thingy', looks good. Rocky

[Toymaker]

gdmfsob .... :mad:


Do you eat with that mouth:D:D:D:D I'm gonna get Kay a bar-o-soap! Seriously, thanks for the photo's Old6'. Rocky

[alteredpilot]

4-spd....

hmmmmmm.....

[64 DODGE 440]

I've got four on mine.......It's just one of the four is reverse.:p

[ThingyM]

Dick.. Sorry about all the incoveniance for you..But thanks for posting them for me..That is why I don't do pictures. You can see it when its done...Thanks for the good comments... Dick M
BTW..Mitch, Drop by when you can. I need some input from ya..

[Old6rodder]

No sweat Dick, it ain't you causing me the grief.
It's the manic need for constantly "newifying" these computer things when they were working just fine that gets my chonies in a bunch. Hell, I drive a '62 Toad 'cause I can still repair it without an electronics degree.
Well, that and it's ugly enough to turn my crank, all the new crap look like half filled water balloons with wheels. :rolleyes:

[ThingyM]

Just spent 4 1/2 hrs, working on making the trans shift like it's suppost to..Next is the hydraulic clutch set up. I would rather have linkage, But just not enough room for it and my size 12s in the same space.. Also starting to look at where to put switches and gauges...Just keep plugging away at it..Dick M

[64 DODGE 440]

...Just keep plugging away at it..Dick M

If you do something every day, no matter how small, it may seem like you aren't making any progress, but sooner or later you will run out of stuff that needs to be done and the car will be just what you wanted it to be.

Hang in there Dick, you are doing fine.:D

[ThingyM]

Yea Tom you are probably right. But it just seems that everything is twice as hard as it use to be. Gee, I wonder why.... BWhaaaaa..

[64 DODGE 440]

It's the dreaded "Geezer Effect".:p

[Old6rodder]

Yeah, now you're operating at "Geezerspeed". ;)

[ThingyM]

Settled on the name for this car..Midnight Madness jr. Yes that is the same as my Fiat, without the junior part..But that way I don't have to change any of the signs on the trailer... Of course that is, If I ever get this thing done...

[64 DODGE 440]

Settled on the name for this car..Midnight Madness jr. Yes that is the same as my Fiat, without the junior part..But that way I don't have to change any of the signs on the trailer... Of course that is, If I ever get this thing done...

Took ya long enough.:p

So I guess that means the car is gonna be painted black?

We had ours named before we decided to build one.:D

Actually, I had picked the name for a different project that never left the mental engineering stage, so it was an easy carryover.

[ThingyM]

NOPE... Midnight Blue. The Fiat is a late model Cadillac metallic Midnight Blue with silver accents..So will this one..

[64 DODGE 440]

Sounds good. Blue and silver go good together.

[ThingyM]

And lots of Chrome,, Messicin Chrome that is... Off to the March Meet.. Be back sometime Monday...Dick M

[ThingyM]

Well as of today, My lil' 198" Chev. is back together. Gonna bolt the trans and stuff up, And go for a trial fit Saturday. If everything is a GO, should bolt it in next week. and start on the incendentals..No Dick. I'm not sending anymore photos....Dick M.

[Old6rodder]

No Dick. I'm not sending anymore photos.

Bullpuckey, inquiring eyes want to see. :D

[Rand Man]

Or send them to me, everybody wants to see.

[ThingyM]

"OK" I took a couple shots of the engine yesterday.. I'll try to get them e-mailed out ASAP..I just don't want to be a pimple on someones fanny..

[ThingyM]

Well I got my water pump set up all figured out and partially built.. Im using the standard Chev.6 pump. but am driving it with a Ford heater motor at about 20 to 1 ratio..Just enough to keep the water flowing slowly enough to let the radiator cool the water. Plan is to run the motor around 180 degrees..I'm machining my own pulleys for the pump and motor..After this, I'm going to start building my drive shaft...

[bobw]

Dick,
If that heater motor proves to not have enough power, Jegs sells a 1500 rpm motor for driving a water pump. It is expensive by my standarda at $56.99.
Bob

[ThingyM]

Thanks Bob.. I did a little testing on about 5 different motors. This one I got is a real hunker. When I hooked it up to a battery, The darn thing just about jumped out of my hand. It is 3" in dia. and spins at about 1500 rpm..We'll find out...Dick M

[ThingyM]

I looked it up in the catalog.. Looks just like the one I have. Just saved me $57.00. plus I have one more for a spare...And these 2 were FREE...

[bobw]

Do you know what the motors came out of? I'm going to the junkyard Tuesday on a carb collecting mission. Wouldn't mind grabbing a couple of those husky heater motors too.

[ThingyM]

Bob.. I'm not really sure , But they are Motorcraft. With a squirel cage type fan of about 6" in dia,. The actual mounting plate is about maybe 10" in dia. I had to chuck it up in the lathe and cut the large dia mount off, Left about 1/2" ring around it to mount it on a bracket..Hope this helps..Dick M

BTW.. If you want, I'll check tomarrow, And see if I can find any markings or numbers on them that might help...

[ThingyM]

Well engine and trans went into the chassis for the first fit..Everything looks pretty good, Only a couple of fixits to do. Then will start on the necessary linkage etc..Finally its starting to look like a HOT ROD...

[64 DODGE 440]

Pictures??:p

[ThingyM]

I don't do pictures very well.. But will give it a go on Monday..Now I'll have to send them all the way to Arkansas to get them posted..hehehehe...

[Rand Man]

Send 'em. No Problem. The world needs to see the beauty of that little third-gen Chevy six.

[Rand Man]

Here it is. I've recently become a big fan of this little engine family that came out in 1962.

[Old6rodder]

Aw maaan, chrome rocker box and side covers. We don't have a snowball's chance now ........ :(
:D

Thingy, that's looking nice. Can hardly wait to see'er in the "flesh". You going to be at Butch's in April?

ps. The pictures traveled well ....... :p

[Four Banger]

Nice little engine, Thingy! I really like the "aluminum" head. Big performance gain with that rare factory piece! LOL!

[ThingyM]

My color scheme is going to be Midnight Blue and silver. So with the Ford blue engine I had to have a silver head..The engine is ready to fire, Except I still have to make the headers and put some carbs together The body skins are complete but still need to make the one behind the seat. But thats easy. Dick,, Im sure hoping to...Thanks for the good words.. And Thank you Randy...

[Toymaker]

Looks GREAT Dick!

[64 DODGE 440]

Looks fast just hangin' on the engine stand.:p

[nexxussian]

Lookin' Good.:D

[ThingyM]

Well,,, Throttle and clutch linkage in the works. Will have Clutch stuff done today...Slowly but Surely....Dick M

[ThingyM]

It doesn't look like the car will be ready for the ANRA opener or the Dragfest. I just can't work as fast as you youngins can.. Plus I've had a couple of set backs.. But I guess thats just the way it goes..It will be finished, Just not sure when,,,,

[Rand Man]

Try my fifteen minute per day rule: Work on the car for at least fifteen minutes each day. Even if all you do sometimes is stare at it, it will eventually get done.

[Old6rodder]

Hey dick,

I can come down some days and/or evenings during the week if it'll help. Tuesdays and weekends are out but other than that I'm game.

[ThingyM]

Thanks Dick for the offer. But you can drop by anytime. Not necessary to do work. I really need some incouragement..Right now I'm just frustrated. If you would like. Just give me a call. (562) 843-7499.. thats my cell phone. But "Old deaf guy" sometimes doesn't hear it ring. Leave a message and I'll get back ASAP.. Again thanks for the offer..Dick M

[Old6rodder]

I think I will, I'll give you a call Monday.

Shall I bring a pint or two of "encouragement"? :D
(just kidding, I drink Dr. Pepper)

[ThingyM]

Do that Richard.. Just don't call before 5:30 am.. Come on by. You are welcome anytime..Dr,Pepper,, Thats made from prune juice. No wonder yo.....Oh never mind... Dick M...

[REJ]

Sounds like the man drinks the best there is. I do also.
If you ever get a chance, order some from the plant in Texas, it is still made the old fashioned way and there is a big difference.
I don't know about the prune juice, but it has just the right amount of caffiene.:D

[Old6rodder]

Yeah, I got the addiction back when I was in Texas as a kid before they went national, green bottles and all. The first time we came to SoCal I could only get it at a couple small ma & pa stores owned by ex-patriot Texans who had it shipped out by friends. That's a fact. :D

ps. The 16oz plastic bottles are still filled in Dallas, and yes, there is a difference.

No sweat Dick, 0530's the middle of my night, I seldom get to bed before 0100.

[ThingyM]

Dick.. The only reason for the 5:30 deal is,, My wife will answer the phone and be cranky. Even might hang up on ya..hehehehe

[ThingyM]

Well, Old 6 showed up at the shop today. Alot of BS,ing went on. Got tired of that, So we went to lunch..He did do one thing that has been driving me up a tree.. He fixed my brakes.. Thanks Dick.. Come back anytime your in the neighborhood.. Dick M

[Old6rodder]

Yeah, it was amazing how many of the world's problems we solved just kicked back in those chairs. Damn, we're good. :D

Got to see the little Chebbie motor up close and even got to pet the rocker box.
Dick's car is defifitely going to be light, I really like the frame rails material (and their story :cool:).

Had a good time visiting, I'll do it again.

[64 DODGE 440]

The world is a safer place because of the geezers!:eek:

[ThingyM]

Got all my frontend parts back today from the powdercoaters. Not what i really wanted for being silver. But I guess its better than rattle can. Especially with me doing it..

[64 DODGE 440]

Got all my frontend parts back today from the powdercoaters. Not what i really wanted for being silver. But I guess its better than rattle can. Especially with me doing it..

Hey.......runs and drips add character and rattle can will chip properly for the true vintage look.:p

[ThingyM]

Well the rest of the chassis will be Rustoleum Navy Blue, Direct from Home Depot..$3.95 a can on sale....Yes there will be drips and runs.The paint job by famous painter "Van Went"

[alteredpilot]

hey dick...
do you still need a squirt job on that contraption of yours?

[ThingyM]

NAAAAAAAA... But I might need some nose art.. I thought you were going to drop by.????:confused:

[alteredpilot]

sorry about that...
havent had a free minute since october and it dont look like its gonna lighten up soon....
i'll call ya.

[64 DODGE 440]

Here's your thread, Dick.......

Just another senior moment.:p

[ThingyM]

Thanks Tom, Got kinda tired of looking for it.....Thanks.. Dick..
IT'S GETTING CLOSER TO THE FINISHED PRODUCT........

[Old6rodder]

Look Dick, I know I said I'd hold my breath 'til you were finished but damn, dude that was last year, you know? :p

Looking forward to adding the Chev to the mix in August. :cool:

[ThingyM]

Please see the thread.."Midnight Madness Jr." Yea I know, You were starting to look kinda Blue in the face...

[Old6rodder]

Here's the link to the new thread .......

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=378987

[ThingyM]

Equal length header pipes are a bitch to make..Ask Me how I know...

[moparsled]

Equal length header pipes are a bitch to make..Ask Me how I know...

makin' 'em all the same length isn't the hard part-- it's the hookin' 'em together that sucks!

[ThingyM]

Well as of this afternoon I now have my headers made..Will finish welding them tomarrow.. They look Hokey, But I think they are functional....No!! you don't want to see photos of them...

[Drewfus]

They look Hokey, But I think they are functional....No!! you don't want to see photos of them...

pardon? yes we do....:D

Cheers,

Drewfus:)

[ThingyM]

Boy Drewfus, You guys sure are hard on this dummy...I'll see if I can get some taken today.Then I'll be begging somebody to post them..If I don't watch out, I'll be wearing out my "Welcome"....Dick...

[Old6rodder]

Sorry I took so long Dick, it's been a busy week.
So without further ado gentlemen,
The latest from Mr. ThingyM ..........


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1139091/c.JPG


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1139091/b.JPG


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1139091/a.JPG

[ThingyM]

These pics are before all the finish work on them. You know. Grinding the welds, polish, and coating...

[bobw]

Dick, That's awful nice! You west coast guys are going to have a herd of HA/GR's to be proud of.
Other Dick, Thanks for posting the pics so we can enjoy Thingy's build.

[ThingyM]

To tell ya the truth, I really don't care for these too much.. I'll build something better in the winter months. These were built with what material I had. The next ones will be bent from one piece each. and better flanges to.....

[64 DODGE 440]

To tell ya the truth, I really don't care for these too much.. I'll build something better in the winter months. These were built with what material I had. The next ones will be bent from one piece each. and better flanges to.....

Ta tell ya the truth.......them pipes are bitchen!! :D

They look right with the period and will sound great.

"Grinding the welds, polish, and coating..." Me thinks you are building a show car, not an HA/GR.:p

The car looks great Dick, you can be proud of it.

[Drewfus]

good to see, job well done


[QUOTE=ThingyM;4120645]Boy Drewfus, You guys sure are hard on this dummy...[QUOTE]

just trying to keep you moving forward, great to see your progress, keeps the rest of us on our toes:)

Cheers,

Drewfus:D

[Old6rodder]

Thanks, I've always wanted to be known as the "other Dick". :rolleyes:

:D Bob, I nearly suffocated laughing at that one. Having spent 63 years with the name I get very few original ones any more ........ :D

[Toymaker]

Love the looks of your weed burners and wouldn't change a thing, unless your going to go crazy and start dynoing the thing for more power:D Looks great Thingy! Rocky

[ThingyM]

The only dyno that car will ever see is on my right foot,,,And NO, I'm not building a show car, Just want it to look decent.. All these full aluminum body cars are for the show..Mine is just for a little fun.....

[ThingyM]

With a little luck, I HOPE,,,, To fire it up sometime this weekend. If not, Early next week....ALMOST...........Dick

[Old6rodder]

I'm busy this weekend with the first of our float tests but I'll be listening ........ :D

[Old6rodder]

I'm still listening ............. :rolleyes:

How'd the fire-up go Dick?

[ThingyM]

It hasn't happened yet. Darn Darn Darn,, (In my best Herman Munster Voice) Seems I need some carb parts. Found some of them this Morn..Most places don't seem to be much interested in 94 parts..I'll be busting butt this weekend for sure.....Dick M

[ThingyM]

It Runs, It Runs..Fired it up tonight . Still needs some tune on it, But at least it runs.. The next project after some tuneing.. Burnout time..YIPEEEEEEEEEEEE...Eagle Field here we come.....

[Toymaker]

it runs, it runs..fired it up tonight . Still needs some tune on it, but at least it runs.. The next project after some tuneing.. Burnout time..yipeeeeeeeeeeee...eagle field here we come.....
yaaaaahoooooooooo!

[bobw]

Way to go, Dick! Another milestone reached. And your first race will be just like the old days (Eagle Field). That is so cool.

[ThingyM]

Thanks Guys... We did some more work on it today, Usual leaks etc. fixed. Fired it up and let it run on fast idle, To break in the cam and rings. I put a large fan in front of the car..It never got over 185 degrees.. Bob, That motor driven water pump worked+...Can't work on it tomarrow, But I sure will be on Monday

[Katuna]

Congrats Dick!! Another rail in the mix. Can't wait 'til Oct. ANRA Finals should be interesting too!

[64 DODGE 440]

Thanks Guys... We did some more work on it today, Usual leaks etc. fixed. Fired it up and let it run on fast idle, To break in the cam and rings. I put a large fan in front of the car..It never got over 185 degrees.. Bob, That motor driven water pump worked+...Can't work on it tomarrow, But I sure will be on Monday

Congratulations Dick!! Looking forward to seeing it all together. You got yours done before ours ever had a chance to leak fluids.:D

Hope to have ours ready for next year. Just need to get my ass in gear and make some progress.