America the Beautiful or how big is the RUST BELT

[48_HEMI]

I woke up thinking what it would be like not have old car scattered around the country side. I've driven thru or around 36 of these 50 states and no where have I seen less old cars than my 8 days in North Carolina (Other than Z-Mans shop) I got more projects in my back yard that I saw in 500 miles I put on my rental car.
I haven't been east of Ohio or north of North Carolina. My question is "do I want to go?"
How big is this Rust Belt and should my next business involve transporting good cars east?

[Paul]

don't ship any from my neck of the woods, they're rare enough already!

good question though,

do a search on which states use salt or other corosives as de-icers on the roads, there's your answer. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

...

not to step away too far from the topic so soon but,

it reminds me..

the other day I saw in Fife on the side of the road a car crusher, it sure looked like it was for sale too.

kinda like looking at the grim reaper.

I didn't say another word all the way home.. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

'course I was alone. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Paul

[The37Kid]

I'm glad I got the chance to see pre 1940 cars and trucks in yards and fields as I drove around in the 1960's, something the next generation will never get to see. Environmentalists and car hobbiests have picked the landscape clean. Stuff is still around, but it is in barns,garages and basements. I've got stuff in the attic too.

[Smokin Joe]

Best place to see old cars around here is at the Truck Stop.
They're on trucks headed to California. Farmers put them on the internet now instead of in the field where they can be seen from the road.

[cheaterslick]

The difference between a car from Seattle and a car from Vancouver is unbeliveable. It's only about 3 hrs difference but the rust is usually double for car from here. A few hundred mile east tho, and the desert-like conditions of Saskachewan the cars are pretty well preserved (relatively speaking)...I notice ALOT of tin in Idaho & Utah, enough projects to keep you busy the rest of your life.

[Tbone]

You could always visit this place

http://www.dvap.com/

[luckystiff]

i have to agree that here in nc it's pretty scant by comparison. there is stuff here but you gotta hunt it down and most doesn't last. the humidity here takes a toll on stuff to an extent. just got back from an estate auction where there was a nice builder '39 ford truck and some other stuff. i hung out for most of the tools that were selling for way to much money and gave up as i'm sure the truck was way out of my range. there was a '50 chevy in the back lot of junk cars that all had some useable parts but they were selling all of those as a lot. there were several hundred people there and the prices were going beyond ebay prices which is already stupid. waited forever on a nice vitor torch setup with tanks thinking it'd go for maybe a coupla hundred at most it sold for 325 after that i gave up and headed home. back home in alabama there was more stuff to be had than here, but in general i think alot of areas are starting to dry up...ken....

[2tall2beahotrodder]

Jersey doesnt have shit... There used to be a nice yard up North.. about a mile into the woods, There used to be around 200 old cars scattered though out the woods..

No way to pull a car out, since theres ditches, HUGE trees, etc. But what ever you can throw over your sholder and walk out is yours..

My Pop and some of his friends have been there.. But it has been over 10 years.. The owner of the place has passed away, and i beleive their still there...





Other than a few junkyards, with no more than 5 classics'.Jersey is probably the worse... Wait, accually we got a shit load of 4 doors


steve-

[willowbilly3]

The humidity rusts averything here too. Different than up north. The sun beats the paint off and the humidity starts in. In this sandy soil a cars frame will be on the ground in a couple years. I looked at a 50 Poncho coupe a while back and it was just gone, nothing left that could be saved.

[Mojo]

There isn't jack shit in WV either.

Back in the late 60's, Ladybird Johnson got bored with hosting lunchens, and decided to "help" the poor ignorant rednecks by cleaning up their private property. They used crews to clean up the typical dumps, but they also stole almost every old car in WV. From what my dad told me, if it wasn't registered or tagged, they took it out of your yard, and there's wasn't shit you could do about it. Because of the actions of some old self-rightous bitch, there's almost no old cars in WV. The only ones around are full restos, or sitting in a yard not for sell, and so rusted out they're worthless.

When I got to the desert here in CA, I couldn't believe my eyes. There's old tin everywhere. Not so many 30's and 40's cars, but it's not uncommon to see a semi-original 50's or 60's car driving down the road. Out here, there's large fenced off sections of land, usually owned by a trucking company or construction or whatever. Anyhow, it seems like a good bit of them also are storage for old cars. It's pretty damned cool, after growing up in a place where you only saw old cars at a show.

[Deuce Roadster]

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

We have a large metal company here that has 5 portable car shedders. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif so most of the stuff is gone. I see 15 to 20 tractor trailer loads a day from independent car crushers going to the shedder in addition to the company stuff. I remember when I was a kid, riding out in the country to see kinfolk.......old cars laying.....no big deal. Mainly 40's and up stuff. South Carolina is sparsely populated compared to other areas. Los Angeles California county has 2 and 1/2 times the people the entire state of South Carolina. The South was very, very poor in the 30's and early 40's so not many cars were bought. A friend of mine's Dad went North every other week for years and got 4 cars and drug them home to his used car lot. This was from 52 to about 62. He went to Baltimore, Philly and NYC..........purchased used cars and got them South. It was a common used car lot practice back then.

On the coastal areas............salt gets them......
Race tracks killed a lot of them......
In the mountains.........moonshiners wrecked a lot of them.
Then the farmers cut down a lot of them for "trucks"

But if you look hard........and know where to look..there are still a few left... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[rev616]

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You could always visit this place

http://www.dvap.com/



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ive personally been there.it is awesome..they just moved though and crushed a bunch of stuff.i havent been to the new one to see what they still have and what they dont..hopefully they didnt crush the stuff i need!although i dont know if i could afford any of it.their prices are very high

[Boones]

Good thing you did not come down to South Carolina, its even worse as Deuce mentions... I was always hearign stories from FlamedAbone about the cars in Mid America.. when I drove out to Des Moines this summer, I seen cars everywhere.. The NW still has lots of project cars around and of course you see them on a daily basis still driving in Cal and Az...

[48_HEMI]

I drive an average of 50,000 miles a year and take rural roads over freeways 80% of the time. and never a day goes by that I don't find more stuff. Then in my business "The Old Car Glass Guy" I get in to shops of builders and Whoaders that have all the super secret stuff hidden in barns and sheds. I've been doing this for 40 years and I still get blown away at times with the stuff still out there. As a professional I would never give up these secret locations BUT I do start each day by reading the Obituaries LOL http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[48_HEMI]

There is a unrestored 34 Ford Cabrolet, less than a mile from my house. That would be a daily driver for me, but is in line for a total restoration http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[48_HEMI]

these are just a few out of one 30+ car whore http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gifd

[48_HEMI]

This Guy has some of the finest cars in the N.W. and NO I don't have a name and address http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[48_HEMI]

last one at this place http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif