SBC 265 ????

I've got a really nice low milage 55 Chevy 265. It is the motor with out the side motormount or an oil filter. My real problem is the starter mounts to the bell housing. I was going to run it in my 32 with a clutch and I know where to get a bell housing for it. The guys talked me out of using it since it does not have a oil filter. Since I'm not going to run it in the 32 I'd like to put an automatic behind it now. Is the powerglide that came behind it the only tranny I can use?????
Clark

[tommy]

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Yeah don't use it. Everybody knows you can't make them look good!!!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[DrJ]

Trade it to a restorer for a built 383, or whatever.
I don't usually say that because the "restorer" you're supposed to trade to is becoming a myth. You can tell by how few are left at the Model T and Model A club meets, but that's one engine that is totally necessary for a '55 restoration, and they are being restored, and (except for the fine exception to the rule seen above) a pain in the ass to use anywhere else. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Jimv]

They can be used with a powerglide & you can get a setup to use a spin on oil filter.
Keep it therea great little motor.
JimV

[burger]

Clark,

Whattaya mean it doesn't have an oil filter? It should have a canister looking thing on it with a replaceable element. If that's not good enough for you, Speedway sells a $10 adapter that allows you to use a standard spin-on oil filter. I have one on my '57 block. The strangest part is that it now uses a Ford oil filter!


Ed

PS- I know that you can use a later automatic behind the 265... I don't remember the combination of parts though... I think it involves replacing the nose on the starter with something else but I'm a little fuzzy here.

[burger]

PS- When I was screwing together my 283, I had A LOT of questions. I found the guys on ChevyTalk.com's 55-57 forum to be very knowledgeable.

Jay Hammond is another good source for 55-57 info. I don't have his card in my wallet, but I'm sure Sawzall can hook you up with his info.

[fab32]

If you use the late model PG you have to drill and tap the block for the late model starter. It's not impossible to do it just takes careful measuring and drilling. Take the dimensions off a later model block. there are no side mounts on these blocks so your stuck with the front mounts. Using the late GG or 350 Turbo trans leaves you with no center support for the engine/trans area. It's best to fab up some sort of support or get a mount made for the late transmission in a '55-'57 Chevy application.
Your stuck with the filter that came with the motor because there if no provision for any other kind of filter so the adapter that was spoken of will not work.. The filter adapter that was mentioned is to change a canister type filter to a spin on one.

Frank

[motor mikey]

Clark is right, there is no oil filter provision on the engine. You can put an external filter on it though.

[Brad54]

In '55, the first SBC didn't come with a boss for the oil filter. It was an extra-cost option, and was a canister on a bracket bolted to the top of the engine with lines running to it. He can't get an adapter. They re-tooled the mold in '56 to have the now-familiar oil filter boss, and in '58 they put in side engine mounts and the valve cover bolts are straight across from one another. (Not staggered)

I don't see what running a stick trans behind it has to do with the oil filter, though? Or am I not reading the reasoning correctly? In a period-correct ride, that engine would be way cool--especially with the add-on filter! Really make people wonder.

Then again, since it's low-mileage, running the date codes and selling it to a resto guy would work, too.
-Brad

[tommy]

FWIW the 55 265 SBC was the only block that did not have the canister filter down by the oil pan. There is no place on the block to put the spin on adapter. The oil filter was on the intake manifold as in the above picture. The 56 265 had the normal early canister oil filter.

Sounds like a perfect candidate for a bee hive oil filter.

[Roothawg]

That's the same block that we have in the Fly. I can give you measurements etc. You making the drags?

[visor]

If you are building a period hot rod, you have one
of the best motors for your project.
There not a pain in the ass to use or mount, and
an oil filter is not a problem to add.
As Tommy mentioned, a bee hive would be cool or the
original really looks right.
I would reconsider the trans option and stay with the
stick. Its a hot rod isn't it?
Use a Hurst saddle mount for the front and a crossmember
rear mount for the trans.
If I had a 383 sbc, I would trade ya!
And staggered valve covers were used on chevy v-8's
up to 1962.
See ya at the drags.
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"OPOSSUM BENDERS"
Central MO. Chapter

Maybe I'll rethink using it in the 32. The 32 will get a clutch. I was gonna use it in another project just to get rid of it.

I was told the oil filter system sucked and I shouldn't use it. What manifolds have the oil line in them? The oil comes out of the intake into the filter and back into the front of the block. Right? Is the 55 intakes the only ones that have the oil outlet?

I would like to run it in the 32 and I don't care that it's a small motor. I would like it to be reliable. My alternate motor for the 32 would be a 327 I have.
Clark

I can't make the drags this year but plan on doing Bville and the drags in the 32 next year.
Clark

[tommy]

The high winding 265 would work much better with a 4 spd. You can keep the R's in it's power band.

The line going into the intake must be the return line just dumping clean oil into the valley. It could go anywhere, even a fitting in the side of the pan. I'm guessing it's like the flathead system where not all of the oil is filtered before it goes to the galleries.

[roadstar]

I say go with the 327 4spd combo.

[Tiny]

If you do use the 4spd make sure to get a bell housing with side mount "ears" on it. If you only mount at the tailshaft it will break bellhousings. So I'm told. I just picked up a 265 for my touring prodject

[Brad54]

I've also heard that you shouldn't use front engine mounts with a trans cross member mount. Didn't know specifics, just that things will break. You can still find Lakewood blowproof bellhousings with the side mounts pretty easily.
-Brad

[Roothawg]

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I was told the oil filter system sucked and I shouldn't use it.

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Well, it has survived almost 50 years......think about that. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Deuce Roadster]

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If you want a manual shift behind the 265.........

1) use a 56 -57 Chevrolet V8 bell housing. The starter bolts to the bell housing. Be sure to use a 168 Tooth flywheel. This way would be for a 4 speed or other 'open driveline' transmission.

2) use a early Ford 3 speed..........and a Wilcap adapter.

http://www.wilcap.com/307-EFM3.JPG

The same 56 -57 Chevrolet 168 tooth starter and flywheel works.....

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[CLSSY56]

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They can be used with a powerglide & you can get a setup to use a spin on oil filter.
Keep it therea great little motor.
JimV

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1955 265s did not have an oil filter. A auxiliary oil filter was an option, similar to the bypass oil filter used on the 235.

Looks like I was a little late on my reply.... oh well. I am building a 56' 265 for my Chev. I'm using the starter ring so I can mate it up to a TH350. I was using a cast powerglide. If you use a cast glide, it's got to be year specific. 55-56 are the same, but 57 is differnt and 58 is differnt then that. The cast was used up to '62 I believe then was changed to the aluminum PG. The aluminum PG is the different yet as it matches with the new TH350 which came out later in the 60's.

Your best bet is to get the starter ring and get a TH350.

[sawzall]

clark

as edmurder mentioned. my pal jay hammond has everything you'd need for a stick or an auto behind that motor..

you can email him at jhchevyparts@aol.com

or call me and I'll give you his number.. he only does 55 - 57 chevy stuff..

later sawzall