Intro from a Throttler... at the salt

[The Deviator]

Hi, my name is Dekon (Deakon Shine the Deviator to the guys in the club). I'm a member of the Throttlers of Salt Lake. I am a metal fabracator by trade. I've been a lurker for months and noticed a few posts on my car before. I thought it was time to join. I have the '28 roadster pick-up with the radiator in the bed and the big 21" V-8 wire wheels.

Thanks for all of the help from the fellow HAMBers durring our misshap last week in Washington durring the Hot Rod a Rama.

Oh, by the way I'm making this post from the bend in the road on the salt flats... can't wait.. the action starts in the morning!

[suedesled]

Hey Dekon, good to see the gangs all here. Got the Green Grenades new treads on the way. 16" think you'll like em. Anyhow give everyone my best. Wish I was there. Later, Marty

[Aushotrods]

HOLY SHIT!!!! That is one bitchin A RPU!
I think ive seen posts on it before, but could you fill us in on some details?
Oh yeah, Welcome http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[loudpedal]

Hi Deakon... I know you!

LP

[The Deviator]

i know you kris (aka)loudpedal

[NoSurf]

Welcome from the Ocean State.

We have the bad salt here.

[roadstar]

What a cool hotrod, and a WAY cool shot on the salt.

Welcome, stick around, you'll enjoy this place.

[Tall Paul]

yeah that rpu rocks!! Just saw it in issue 5 of ol skool rodz.

that flattie doesnt run water pumps right??? do you have some sort of electrical water pump hooked up inline or sumthin??

[HOTRODPRIMER]

[ QUOTE ]
yeah that rpu rocks!! Just saw it in issue 5 of ol skool rodz.

that flattie doesnt run water pumps right??? do you have some sort of electrical water pump hooked up inline or sumthin??

[/ QUOTE ]




Welcome to the HAMB,,,,,,,A flathead without water pumps?

Got any pictures? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gifhttp://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gifHRP

[side_valve]

Nice ride! - have fun at the salt. Let us know the highlights. I hope to get there next year.

[Gotgas]

Wow, that photograph is just stunning. Thank you for my new Desktop wallpaper. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I saw that RPU in the magazine along with a few of your friends' cars, I gotta say I'm jealous of the fun you guys are having. Good to have you.

Danny

[cadlights]

Welcome from another Utahn. Say hi to Mickey for me.

[ironbuyer]

Hey Dekon!
What's up, this is Steve from the show that had you guys towed up there on Hwy18. Hope everybody is Ok. I just wanted to make sure things went good with the storage of the truck. Let me know if I need to make some calls. Nice to see you on here. I am new as well. I hope to see you guys at billetproof.

[Tall Paul]

pic courtesy of OSR http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Cruisin']

<font color="brown"> Awesome! Real keen engineering going on there!
Being an engineer myself I can really appreciate what you have done. Keep it cool, make it flow! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Oh, welcome. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Cheers,
C
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[JOBCORP]

It is about time deviator.... I just wish I was there with you fella's!!! Have fun and give us a ring when you get home..

Whos all there, I suspect everyone but me?

[SamIyam]

I think you could still get it lower... maybe section the body?
I also dig the iron cross on the front... iron crosses scare people and are cool... Maybe pout a few more on the car... one on each door, one on the tail gate, put them on the valve covers... kind of make it your "theme"... Even though you don't need a radiator shell... you COULD make a shell that looks like a big Iron Cross.


BTW... welcome to the HAMB!

Sam.

[saltflataddict]

[ QUOTE ]
I think you could still get it lower... maybe section the body?
I also dig the iron cross on the front... iron crosses scare people and are cool... Maybe pout a few more on the car... one on each door, one on the tail gate, put them on the valve covers... kind of make it your "theme"... Even though you don't need a radiator shell... you COULD make a shell that looks like a big Iron Cross.


BTW... welcome to the HAMB!

Sam.

[/ QUOTE ]

What the fuck was that all for Sam?? Was that all really necessary? A bunch of sarcastic mumbling! You know as well as I do, that we dont need anymore BS on here, and your just adding to it like an ASS.. All you needed to say was your last line, welcome to the Hamb.

Hi Deviator!! I know you too...

[Zodoff]

Period-sam should go get laid..
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Welcome deviator,kool rpu.

[porknbeaner]

Deviator

Looks like you got your car dirty. Just the way I like 'em. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Welcome Friend
The PknBner http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[A32Flathead]

Repeat after me..............

I MUST get to Speed Week....I MUST get to Speed Week....I I MUST get to Speed Week....MUST get to Speed Week...I MUST get to Speed Week.....I MUST getI MUST get to Speed Week.... to Speed Week.... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Oh....and COOL RPU..Welcome to the HAMB...Its a nice place to be.... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

But still not Speed Week http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Dave

[ChuckleHead_Al]

Welcome Homie, saw the rides in Ol'school Rod's, great pics.
Great cars most of all..

[Grinder]

welcome Deviator nice ride. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Smokin Joe]

Welcome Deakon. Kept seeing this herd of Throttlers going by everywhere I went this weekend.
http://images6.fotki.com/v87/photos/2/213943/1235867/IMG_1270-vi.jpg
http://images6.fotki.com/v98/photos/2/213943/1235867/IMG_1272-vi.jpg

Thought you were going to give the grenade an enima when you finally stopped at the HAMB meet Saturday.
http://images6.fotki.com/v100/photos/2/213943/1235867/IMG_1285-vi.jpg

[saltflataddict]

I kept seeing your car SmokinJoe everywhere we went, but never met you.. maybe next time..

[Kilroy]

Ohhhh.... I'm Sorry! I had no idea that Deviator TM was the Annointed One! Thou shalt not bust Deviator's balls! He is holier than thou! All those from Salt Lick City shall be left unsoiled by the unwashed masses....

I either like or hate that RPU depending on how I look at it. Right now, while I admire the innovation and engineering involved and how he seems to improve it as he goes, the whole thing looks unballanced to me. No grill really messes with the fit and finnish as well as the ungainly lowness (Thou shall not poke the sleeping giant "Scrub Line" in the nuts with thine staff). We won't talk about the everpresent Ironcross (They are the pox on thou!).

But that's just me. Welcome. You have skills.

And I think what Sam said was FUNNY. Nothing more nothing less.

[Buick59]

[ QUOTE ]
pic courtesy of OSR http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


[/ QUOTE ]

No..........picture courtesy of me!

Samiyam is jealous, cause he's just a woodshop teacher and Dekan is a sheetmetal fabricator.

[Mass Butcher]

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
That car has balls! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Welcome Deviator!

[Kilroy]

I don't know what's more troubling...

The fact that you guys have no sense of humor...

Or that Buick 59 has so many pics of Units on his computer... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[loudpedal]

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(Thou shall not poke the sleeping giant "Scrub Line" in the nuts with thine staff).

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I like the way you've put that, it made me laugh, but Scrub line - shumb line! A 320 mph top fueler has the rear wheels above the scrub line. So do funny cars and prostock cars. They don't seem to be worried about it. I saw countless salt cars at the flats last weekend violating the 'scrub line' law. Man, I guess the 'scrub line police' have their work cut out for them! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Hey here's a thought: if you don't like YOUR scrub line violated, don't do it, but most of all, keep it to YOUR damn self!

If all you are trying to do is get Deek's goat, tease him about the way he trys to say aluminum. That gets him more upset than this subject ever will...

LP

[saltflataddict]

Who was even talking to you Kilroy? I didnt see unnecessary posts from you until now. And did you not read Ryan's post on intro's. busting balls is fine, but poking fun is another.. Its all the unnecessary shit that needs to be cut out, if you dont like something then fine, but dont waste bandwidth. remember what everyones Moma said " if you dont have nothing nice to say then dont say anything at all" something like that

[Kilroy]

Just fucking around but it's gotten too complicated. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Lighten up Francis...

[41ChevyTrucker]

hey I like your roadster w/0 the grill shell. I don't what those other people say. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif and scrub lines are for janitors. very nice pic.

one question I always wondered.. does the salt screw up your motor when it gets in your stacks or how do you deal with it?

[SamIyam]

... you need to make those dicks a little bigger to be closer to real life!

I also like being a woodshop teacher...

And what's so wrong with theme cars and iron crosses... is the weak beer in Salt Lake City affecting your sense of humor??

Next time I'm out there... I'll bring you some "hard stuff"... our Coors Light'll get you hammered!

Sam.
p.s. I like the car he built and hope he contributes to the HAMB instead of bringing it down...

[loudpedal]

Killroy..

Hey man, I knew you guys were just ribbin' him, no harm in that. I didn't take it seriously, just as I named ya the scrub line police... just a little rib! To each their own is my moto.

But as long as were getting on a serious note: I don't worry about the plane crashing every time I fly in one. I take the same approach to the hot rods. Make it as safe as you feel comfortable with. What about air bags, side impact bars, seatbelt pretensioners, crumple zones and colapseable steering columns? The same arguement could be made for those items as well. If a guy in a race car isn't worried, than neither am I. I don't live my life inside a bubble taking no risks, and I would guess you don't either. I believe that there comes a point where you have to quit worrying about what could happen, and just drive the damn thing. Anyhow, I want you to know that I got the humor in your and Sam's posts and was not offended at all...
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
LP

[Drewfus]

Welcome, glad to see people who think outside a box. Look forward to seeing more.

Cheers,

Drewfus http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Buick59]

[ QUOTE ]
I don't know what's more troubling...

The fact that you guys have no sense of humor...

Or that Buick 59 has so many pics of Units on his computer... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Hey man.....Im just having fun......like you said. I think penis's are hilarious!!!!! I had this supervisor at work that we we used to draw dicks on everything. Management could not figure out who was doin it, they even put cameras in the break room...........man we lauged so hard!!!! You can't poke fun at other people and not expect them to poke back. All's fair.


Samiyam........I didnt have Utard beer this weekend. I made it a point to drink all of Bob K's local brew stuff. I'll see you in California real soon..........where we can draw penis's at the local Dennys.

Mike

[saltflataddict]

yes, you are all right. I will lighten up as well.

Sam your right that Coors Light will fuck us up more than our shit. its sad I know..

[Kilroy]

[ QUOTE ]
But as long as were getting on a serious note: I don't worry about the plane crashing every time I fly in one. I take the same approach to the hot rods. Make it as safe as you feel comfortable with. What about air bags, side impact bars, seatbelt pretensioners, crumple zones and colapseable steering columns? The same arguement could be made for those items as well. If a guy in a race car isn't worried, than neither am I. I don't live my life inside a bubble taking no risks, and I would guess you don't either. I believe that there comes a point where you have to quit worrying about what could happen, and just drive the damn thing. Anyhow,
LP

[/ QUOTE ]

It's not about safety as much as it's about style and craftsmanship. I don't worry about stuff happening all the time but it's about the challenge of building something right. You have to set goals for yourself. As for me, I think saying fuck it to life and limb and making your car as low as possible is a cop out. The lowness becomes the defining factor or one of the major ones. I like low cars but I like cars that look like they're going fast standing still better and to me if your car is an inch of the gound it looks "planted" like it ain't going anywhere. Anybody can build a car so it's just off the ground but it takes a craftsman to build a car that takes scrub line into consideration while still trying to get the car at a good "under the radar" altitude. True, if you're building a salt car or a top fueler, you have differnt goals but if the only thing like a top fueler on your car is that it's scraping the ground, then you can't use that as your model.

Again, I don't really care what anybody else does and am not going to try to tell anybody else what to do, but I am going to reserve the right to make fuck-wad comments about stuff I see that I like or don't like. I'm just like that... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[momentumfoto]

All the cars n trucks from Throttlers are good on the eyes and have inspired me a lot. I really like the style and fabrication on all of em... good stuff guys and welcome to the HAMB. Talking shit makes me come back to the hamb... just would not be the same if you ask me.

Blake

[loudpedal]

Like I said:

[ QUOTE ]
To each their own is my moto.

[/ QUOTE ]

I know what you are trying to say Kill, allthough I don't exactly agree with the cop out statement... low was Deek's goal when he built it. It's cool though, I respect your opinion if you respect mine. You can't please everyone. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


Hey where the hell are you Deek? I'd like to hear what you've got to say...

LP

[SinisterCustom]

Killer rig and welcome! Saw it at Hot-Rod-A-Rama and took lots of pics. Just one question... Do you guys work? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif Looks like you guys just travel around and party and shit! I'm jealous!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Jeff Norwell]

.........the saga continues....(sigh).....welcome......

[thirtytwo]

are the throttlers from utah a sanctioned club from the origional throttlers from hollywood????? been wondering for a while

[MattStrube]

If everyone said what they thought about everyone elses cars on the HAMB, there would be a lot of pissed off people. The truth is that everyone has different tastes, some people can only taste food...and my brother is a big ole dick http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif There is no way around it, they and he can't help it.

[PEDDRO]

BLAH...BLAH...BLAH.....Welcome! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Lovely ve-hic-le.

[BARNETT]

Welcome and I dig your ride!

[The Deviator]

OK hear i am . it's got a electrical pump in the bed. And for SAMUYAM it's not an iron cross it's stainless (duh) By the way KILLroy utah LAW states that the lowest point must be 3" off the ground, and the scrub line is also right in the ball park to. But its not safe to slide in dirt with a dick hanging out of your car eather(just kiding).and yes please send beer for me and my seven wifes! P.S. loudpedal it,s al-u-men-e-im you prick.

[MattStrube]

Piece of Shit Buick Said [ QUOTE ]
No..........picture courtesy of me!
Samiyam is jealous, cause he's just a woodshop teacher and Dekan is a sheetmetal fabricator.


[/ QUOTE ]

This Statement is the most ignorant thing I've read in a long time...I don't stick up for my smart ass brother often, http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif but you writing that was fucked up. You don't even know what he does for those kids. So shut your mouth asshole. You have to know me too, that it takes a lot to piss me off, and saying that Sam is jeolous of someone because he's a woodshop teacher is obsurd. Oh, and I think buicks suck dick.

I like the truck, so welcome to the board man. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Buick59]

whats a matter smalls.......can dish it out but cant take it?!?! Hmmmm........booohoooooo. I didnt hear Sam crying. I was ribbing him the same exact way he has ribbed me in the past (other posts) and he has ribbed Dekan. Nuff said on this silly drama.

[flt-blk]

Welcome, cool car, I like innovation.

Any other cool projects in the works you can show us
pictures of?

TZ

[loudpedal]

Send beer for me too please. The missionarys drank all of mine!

LP

[sodbuster]

Welcome and nice meeting you this past weekend.

Do you have any pix of a certain someone getting sprayed with hot water from a radiator hose? Just kidding.

Also, Do you have any build up pix of the car?

Chris Nelson
Kansas

[saltflataddict]

"Do you have any pix of a certain someone getting sprayed with hot water from a radiator hose? Just kidding"


ha,ha,.. that would be cool if someone did.. Damn fuses!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Kevin Lee]

Welcome. I like that truck...a lot. Super jealous of those wheels too. Nice score.

I have a feeling I'll be bugging you with a lot of questions about the plumbing on that radiator setup when I start my next project.

[SamIyam]

[ QUOTE ]
Piece of Shit Buick Said [ QUOTE ]
No..........picture courtesy of me!
Samiyam is jealous, cause he's just a woodshop teacher and Dekan is a sheetmetal fabricator.


[/ QUOTE ]

This Statement is the most ignorant thing I've read in a long time...I don't stick up for my smart ass brother often, http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif but you writing that was fucked up. You don't even know what he does for those kids. So shut your mouth asshole. You have to know me too, that it takes a lot to piss me off, and saying that Sam is jeolous of someone because he's a woodshop teacher is obsurd. Oh, and I think buicks suck dick.

I like the truck, so welcome to the board man. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

You'll have to excuse Smalls' comments... he's on pain medication and it makes him a little edgy...

Why he called me a "big ol' dick" in one post and then in his nezt post he's sticking up for me... meds are making the poor kid by-polar...

Anyway, that dude that built that low-azz truck has skills... he makes that thing look like a Lance Sorchik cartoon... ya gotta have balls to screw seven wives and to build shit like that... don't know where the weak beer comes in though. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Sam.

[Kilroy]

[ QUOTE ]
OK hear i am . it's got a electrical pump in the bed. And for SAMUYAM it's not an iron cross it's stainless (duh) By the way KILLroy utah LAW states that the lowest point must be 3" off the ground, and the scrub line is also right in the ball park to. But its not safe to slide in dirt with a dick hanging out of your car eather(just kiding).and yes please send beer for me and my seven wifes! P.S. loudpedal it,s al-u-men-e-im you prick.


[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks DEVILator for apparently being the only one in Morman-Humping Utah that gets when someone is just busting on the new guy. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Innovative little truck and welcome.

How does the flathead run with all that plumbing, anyway?

[loudpedal]

Hey Deek..

Check out the new issue of Cruisn (from Japan), your RPU is on the cover:

[glassguy]

and to think i missed out on havin my balls busted wen i introed!!!!!!that truck is the balls!!!welcome from another new bastid

[Mike]

Wecome to the HAMB, Deviator. I like your heap, I took a bunch of pictures of it at Vegas. You Throttlers fellers sure do put together some bitchin' machines.

We're all just jealous because Sam gets to work with wood all day. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[av8]

Sam's not gonna believe this, Dekan, but I like your RPU! Innovative, nicely wrought, and it makes me smile. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Good on ya, and welcome.

[ShortBus]

sweet heap.

I saw your rpu at Famoso..

http://home.socal.rr.com/rickamado/holga/rivets-sm.jpg

http://home.socal.rr.com/rickamado/holga/suicide-sm.jpg


and your buddy
http://home.socal.rr.com/rickamado/holga/noseart-sm.jpg




welcome to HAMB

[Kinky6]

Heh-heh; Speed week and Drama week, combined! That's why I love this place.

So, is the scrub line what ya see if you don't get all the salt washed off? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Like the truck, BTW. Just wondering, with the radiator in the bed, where do ya carry the lawn chairs and cooler? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Later, Kinky6 http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[thirtytwo]

[ QUOTE ]
are the throttlers from utah a sanctioned club from the origional throttlers from hollywood????? been wondering for a while

[/ QUOTE ]

hello???? where did the throttlers club come from???

[loudpedal]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
are the throttlers from utah a sanctioned club from the origional throttlers from hollywood????? been wondering for a while

[/ QUOTE ]

hello???? where did the throttlers club come from???

[/ QUOTE ]

I was waiting for Deek to answer this, since it's his post. I guess I'll step in here.

A few years ago, before our club had chosen a name, we were at the California Hot Rod Reunion. We started talking to an older gentelmen that really liked our stuff. He mentioned that his father (who had passed on) was a founding member of the Throttlers of Hollywood. He mentioned that he still had all of his Dad's plaques, timing tags and jackets. He told us stories about his dad's involvment in the club in the begining of land speed racing. Did you know that the SCTA was founded in a meeting at the Throttlers' club house? I didn't until we talked with him. He himself, in his high school days, tried to start the Throttlers club back up. He said it only lasted for about 7 years, then everyone lost interest. Anyhow to make a long story short, we got his blessing to use the Throttlers as our club's name.

The original club was a land speed club. Membership in a club was required to run on the dry lakes back then. This winter our club will start work on a land speed car. We plan to use the powerplant from my old 8-second street car. This should provide plenty of power to push our car over the 200mph mark. We like to stick to the roots as much as possible. Hopefully with everything we have done so far and with what we plan in the future, we will do the name of the Throttlers proud.

LP

[SamIyam]

That's a cool story!

I guess I should turn over a new leaf and stop making sarcastic remarks about people's cars... I realize that there is a depth to each and every person... it's just a little hard to tell sometimes over the computer.

Anyone else have this problem?

Maybe we should start a support group!

Sam.

[Drewfus]

[ QUOTE ]
Maybe we should start a support group!

Sam.
--------------------
Welcome to the HAMB

[/ QUOTE ]

Life has it's irony's (sp?).

Support group, welcome to the HAMB Sam http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Cheers,
and back to the shed,

Drewfus http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Ham]

"The missionarys drank all of mine!" Sorry, my fault... Nice to see you on here Dekon!

[hemi coupe]

I like the throttlers and there cars. I dont really know them but I got the inside scoop from my connection in the S.L.C.. They build nice cars, drive them, and most important of all I heard they were hardcore car guys. As an added bonus loud pedal has a model A with a hemi in it.
nice work!
Jimmy White

[38Chevy454]

Wish i woulda stopped and introduced myself at the salt. I saw your cars, but I was the one with the maroon 37 Chevy truck, not too far down from you guys. Next year I will have more time and do a better job of meeting some of the people. Welcome to the HAMB

[heyitsnate]

wow..salt lake is coming up....i lived there in the avenues for ONE year.until i could'nt take it anymore.it was 1993 and there was NOTHING like that around.welcome to the hamb,and good job.

[saltflataddict]

[ QUOTE ]
wow..salt lake is coming up....i lived there in the avenues for ONE year.until i could'nt take it anymore.it was 1993 and there was NOTHING like that around.welcome to the hamb,and good job.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thas true Nate, there was not really. You had to look hard.. The Aves rule though..

[HOTRODPRIMER]

How about a shot of the bed with the cover off! HRP

[heyitsnate]

remember the hate house? that was the best stuff goin...everything was so screwed up with politics and religion,that the punk/hardcore scene was extremely tight.some of the best people i ever met lived there.

[saltflataddict]

was there almost every weekend sometimes more.. Yeah the Hate house was punk as fuck.. all those factors you said have a part in why we have such a good punk scene still..
Mormon kids have to rebel - http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif