Fairlane Gasser progress....SPINDLE problems. HELP.

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[ratster]

Jason, get some cooking oil and a Fry Daddy, drop that sleeve in it for a few min and slide it on the spindle. Works every time. Can you get it back off??

[ratster]

heat the adapter and use a brass punch, then tap it down.. Do not heat the spindle

[ratster]

Never mind I reread your post, you've done tried that.

[twjoyce]

I would take a cut off wheel and split the adaptor and get it off. Get another adaptor and then do some measuring and/ or polishing to get this a better fit. Sounds like this spindle has had enough heat already. Also, while you're heating the adaptor put the spindle in the freezer.

[FeO2]

Put a puller on the adapter & apply some pressure while you heat it. Once you get it off, make sure the spildel is clean(220 sandpaper) Put the spildle in the Freezer for an hour or so and try it again.Drop the adapter on the cold spindal and drive it down with a piece of pipe against the shoulder of the HOT adapter.

[Pist-n-Broke]

This is a common problem if you've never done it before. The bearing sleeve needs to be perfictly square to the shaft when started or it digs in. Set the spindle on a block and find a piece of pipe that will set on the flat part of the adapter. Heat the adapter and hit or better yet press the pipe till it seats. Don't use a punch or you will just continue to dig in the shaft. Don't get it red hot, just warm it up slowly all the way around. If you can put some pressuer on it in a press while doing it you'll be fine.
The Wizzard

[ratster]

Yeah, Darrel has a complete machine shop. Come on down I know how to brake in to it.

[Pist-n-Broke]

After reading these other posts I'd half to say don't try to take it off with a puller. You'll end up damaging the threads on the end. Just get it strait and press it on down.
Just my opinyon, you know.
The Wizzard

[Pist-n-Broke]

No, The part is not hardened. As long as when you get it in place the bearing fits snug on it your fine.
The Wizzard

[Pist-n-Broke]

I agree, that would be the #1 choice. If your in the neighborhood stop by. I'll do it for Free.
The Wizzard

[FeO2]

FYI when I went through this same process with my speedway spindels, I did put the nut on the spindel so not to damage the threads......

[Pist-n-Broke]

Good on you, FeO2. Those that do these things daily seem to just know. The others end up with minor problems. Hence this post. Per Ryin's instructions we are now having a kinder and gentler conversation. I really do just try to help. No more gouging
The Wizzard

[flamedabone]

Von-T. If it makes you feel any better, I ran into the exact same thing. You heat the spacer then try to slide it onto the spindle real quick like. If you get it even a tiny bit crooked or not quite hot enough, you will get it stuck exactly like what you have.

When mine got stuck, I fucked with it for about an hour trying to re heat the spacer. but, once the spacer touches the spindle, the spindle gets hot too, and they BOTH expand and you are just fucked. I ended up beating mine on with a punch and kind of fucking up the edge of the spacer in the process.

On the next spindle, I got it on as far as I could then used a thickwall piece of tubing that just fit over the spindle and beat it the rest of the way on. Worked just fine.

Good luck, you haven't fucked up anything yet. -Abone.

[ratster]

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Now what kind of attitude is that? Your not working on an old car? your working on a new part.

sorry man I hope today goes better for you. If you need some help bring that thing over and we'll take it over to Darrel's. Let me know.

[Tudor]

I had to take a piece of pipe and drive one of them on - the other one went on with out hitch

[whitewallslick]

The press will do the job, I just instlled a pair this weekend. Tried it your way first with no luck but the press slid those puppies on easily. WWS

[Morrisman]

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The press will do the job, I just instlled a pair this weekend. Tried it your way first with no luck but the press slid those puppies on easily. WWS

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Squirt a little oil in there before you start pressing, might save it from galling up and locking even more solid than it is.

It'll only take 0.001" interference to make something like that a tight press fit, and standard production tolerances are rarely that tight, so you might get one that seems to slip on easily, and the next one could be the mother of all fuckups.

15 years in a machine shop taught me this: If it can go wrong, it will. But then you knew that already http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[32viper]

VT, you've been given enough advise to get the adapter on. Once you have it in place make sure the bearing slides on FINGER tight. I have used emory cloth to dress down the adapter for a good fit with the bearing. You don't want to have to fight each time you pack you bearings or do brake work. Good luck.

['Flyin' Dutchman']

About putting the spindle in the freezer... Dunno if that'll be cold enough?
When we install bearings on the shafts on gas turbines, we cool the shafts down with, well, we call it "dry ice"...

It's actually liquid oxygen... It's minus 180 degrees celcius. (I use it to burn warts on my thumb too, haha!)

Try to do that with the other one, at the machine shop (If they have liquid oxygen). And heat up the adapter the adapter of course!

I have to wish you good luck with the one you have to press down.

[296 V8]

I had the same problem and after pressing them on, the inside bearings wouldn’t slide on. Ended up chucking the spindle up in a big lathe and using a file to take off one or two thousands from the adapters.

[Jeem]

Hey VonTingle, if it was easy there would be way fewer "racecar" Hondas on the street.
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When we install bearings on the shafts on gas turbines, we cool the shafts down with, well, we call it "dry ice"...

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When you melt dry ice and swim in it do you get wet?

Steven Wright

[296 V8]

when you go to get them, take a bearing with you.