Need help identifying a 429/460 Ford...What B the difference

[SamIyam]

Fonzi got me the hook up on a 460 Ford.

The number on the block is D1VE 8015-A2B

But all I can tell from web sites is that it is a '71 motor out of a Lincoln... and it could be a 429 or 460.

Anyone know the poop on these things?

TIA!

Sam.

[RileyRacing]

PM the Hack. He knows all that stuff.

Jay

[FONZI]

Hey SAM,
I just read this on another forum:

You need to get the #'s off the crank. A 4U or 4UA is a 429. 460's are 2Y, 2YA, 2YAB, 2YABC or 3Y. Pick up this book: HP Books, How to Rebuild Your FORD V8 351C- 351M-400-429-460. It has all the #'s and interchangability.

I will check that out if u want. I am not sure where on the crank the number may be though.....

Anyone know?


FONZI

[Scotch]

If it's a 4-bolt block its a 429- They never made a 4-bolt 460...but if ya swap cranks over, you can have one.

Scotch

[Flat Ernie]

No way to know w/o checking the crank, but odds are it's a 460 if it was in a Lincoln...of course, cranks are easily swapped during rebuild.

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[zonkola]

Short of removing the oil pan, I guess you could try the coat hanger down the spark plug hole trick to measure the stroke. 429 = 3.59", and 460 = 3.85". The standard bore is the same on both engines at 4.36".

[Fat Hack]

The others got ya covered before I saw this...the crank determines if it's a 429 or a 460.

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[FONZI]

The oil pan is off this engine. Where are the marks/numbers on the crank that ID it?


Thanks,


FONZI

[FWilliams]

on the edge of a counterweight

[FONZI]

THANKS,
Sam I will try and check tonight.


FONZI

[flamedabone]

Sam. I had a VERY serious 460 back when I used to be a Ford man. You can make big giant bunches of power with em. The weakness is the exhaust ports. You can band-aid it with extra duration, and/or porting depending on what you are using the motor for. Lots of good aftermarket heads out now, it you have some budget to play with.

By the way, whatcha' doin with it? -Abone.

[MattStrube]

Try this forum http://www.network54.com/Forum/85220

[SamIyam]

I just bought a '57 F-100 off e-bay... went to pic it up yesterday (pics to follow).

Plans are to build it to haul our digger... I want a big block, and it seems natural to put a 460 in it because they are pleantiful and cheap. So when I saw that one down in LA that the Fonz had on the classifieds, I figured that it would be a great motor for the BFD hauler. (the price is right at $200)

Anyway, the only thing that is keeping me from it is weather or not it is a real 460 and the fact that it is just a long block.

My brother suggested that Pick-N-Pull motor might be a good choice because it'd come with all the extra shit... problem is finding a '70 or '71 motor, they are getting harder and harder to find.

I appreciate your help, and special Kudos go out to FONZI for hunting it down, taking pics and buggin the old lady who has it for info.

Sam.

[47lincsled]

the block you want is DOVE-A it's the same as the 429 BOSS milled but not drilled for four bolt mains and extra webing around the mains,the heads you want are DOVE-C,I love the big fords I've driven some to over 200,000 miles, they say the 429 is supposed to wind up quicker with the shorter stroke. If the engine is from a 71 linc. there is a good chance it's the good one. But even if it's not it still a great starting point.Bob

[FWilliams]

let me know if you need anything for it, i have been collecting parts to build one myself, there seems to be a lot of stuff for sale around here cheap for the 460. i plan on building a 460 tunnel ram motor for a future project and have been picking stuff up here and there

Fred

[SamIyam]

Cool Fred!

I've been meaning to call you... want to talk about your cam and stuff...

You going to be around this weekend?

Sam.